Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi Episode 3 Discussion

Oosran said:
Oh, Zexcs. Quit it already.
And what? So, I have no idea what these insects are supposed to be.

Anyway, there was a whole lot of pointless stuff thrown into this episode, and all that actually mattered was the explanation on just what the heck is going on, as well as Gekkou and Hinata's back story.
And their parents were supposedly devoured leaving not a trace, so, there was a bit too much blood.

So, they exchanged the Geinvikku for random insects, and made the silver familiar much less interesting, huh?
My, good job there, Zexcs. ( ¬‿¬)

Oosran said:
And what's up with Himea suddenly being all shy and stuff? That's like, not her at all. ಠ_ಠ

Oosran said:
...Why the hell did they put in a new ED? Like, seriously, why?
They just changed the best ED of the season for... this pile of crap. ಠ_ರೃ

Omniknight said:
Itsuka, welcome to the same fate as Blood-C, the dropped list.

Ingesting the mold growing on cheese I left outside the fridge for several weeks would be more inviting to me than finishing this series... I have no need to watch our stereotypical archetypes with not a single bit of originality battle random monsters that appear out of nowhere for no reason.

Even the producers of this anime made Taito dying into a running joke... that isn't funny the first time and won't be funny the 1000000th time.

Hageshiikaze said:
I hope this Himea chick turns out to be a badass, I don't want her to turn into some airhead.

Blind_Guardian said:
I'm starting to understand why people dislike Himea.

ShinnKamiyra said:
You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?

Hageshiikaze said:
I hope this Himea chick turns out to be a badass, I don't want her to turn into some airhead.

VioLink said:
Himea is a bitch well not really I think its fucked up that Haruka spent all moring making a bento for the dude and gathered all her courage to ask him to eat with her and he turns her down FOR SOME FUCKING STUDENT COUNCIL MEETING!? He should of accepted Haruku's bento right away and said "Screw u Himea you waited 9 years so u can at LEAST wait 20 minutes for me to eat with Haruka".

Zingi said:


In that scene, I seriously thought he was going to grab the both of them and run off. He'd be like, " Let's all eat together!" and then he'd be in some deep sh**. That would have been hilarious.

But even if that didn't happen I laughed a lot watching this episode. Also because Gekkou's backstory seemed really messed up

Chibi Mirai! =3

ShinnKamiyra said:


You seem fairly neutral and calm in making that claim. Curiously, what makes you think that?

Oosran said:
I've actually only seen one person who dislike her though that's because of some overall disliking towards vampires. Said person knows who he is..
I really can't see why people would dislike her though.
Except this shy version of her that Zexcs made up. That one might get annoying later.

VioLink said:
I think the reason people might dislike her because at the beginning it looked like she was forcing him into that contract when he was only 5-7 and she was already like 100 years old? I mean she was basically inviting a kid into a world that would put him into mortal danger just so she can have him , that's pretty fucked up.

Another reason people might not like her is because she is supposed to be some ultra powerful vampire queen YET she barely does ANYTHING in the fight against Hinata (both times) infact instead of getting revenge for being trapped for 9 years she wants to run away wtf?

I also don't like how she is WAAAAAAAY older than the main characters yet she acts like the typical clingy blushing school girl she is basically Haruka but a pedophile version it's kinda creepy if you really think about it. She should be acting like the vampire queen on "Dance in the vampire bund" who also has a loli body but acts mature , elegant , and a little raunchy , but mature non the less.

ZeroZx said:
And why did they change the ED?! Last episode's ED was awesome.. this one just sucks.

Oosran said:
I've actually only seen one person who dislike her though that's because of some overall disliking towards vampires. Said person knows who he is..
I really can't see why people would dislike her though.

Yumekichi11 said:
Have you not a single conscious about Taito? He got taken advantage with his piety towards Himea's sadness by having his humanity taken. Is that right? NO!

Oosran said:
I personally wouldn't mind being in Taito's position.
I'd get my own Himea (with her lovely hair), have a pretty interesting kind of "immortality," and I'd receive the hatred of the entire class. What more could one wish for?

Oosran said:
I personally wouldn't mind being in Taito's position.
I'd get my own Himea (with her lovely hair), have a pretty interesting kind of "immortality," and I'd receive the hatred of the entire class. What more could one wish for?

Yumekichi11 said:
]Have you not a single conscious about Taito? He got taken advantage with his piety towards Himea's sadness by having his humanity taken. Is that right? NO! Was it right for Himea? In order to keep her powers as means of using a vessel for it in thee end of love itself working out all? I guess but I don't like vampires in general, only some for some reason.

BTW Himea is not one of them. I think Himea took advantage of Taito. Unlike Miyuu's servant having been defeated in battle and then taken out his normal self through Miyuu's blood sucking, that I can accept.

ShinnKamiyra said:


I'm not sure as to why you believe Taito had his humanity taken away from him, unless our base definitions differ somewhat, which is entirely possible.

Still, let's keep things within scope. Taito is still the same person he always was, with or without Himea's curse upon him. And it's not as though he isn't able to die just like any other human; just in that in his case, he needs to die seven times within fifteen minutes, which as we've already been shown can be achieved quite easily by the right person. As long as he still has the possibility of death residing within him, he still has a choice in the matter and thus, from my perspective, still holds an important piece of what it means to be human within him.

Now while this is just my personal view, I believe you may be placing a bit too much value in a purist notion of humanity with respect to Taito.

When all's said and done, I'm still at a loss to understand why you believe what Himea did to Taito was such a bad thing. From my POV, it's because she cared about him so much that she granted him her power in order to become strong and survive in the 'world' that he's now involved in; granted, in order to fulfill her selfish desire of wanting to be with him. But as I've said, what's so wrong in wanting to seize happiness that's right in front of you?

Yumekichi11 said:
Let's leave it at what you mention because your view is of the acceptance kind while mine revolves around a different notion like you mention. I will add the following:

Your POV it's more of that Himea cared for him because he was the first to show emotional piety for her. A deep feel sorry. We also don't know what happened to Taito to make him that sad that day so that I am missing to make a complete assessment but it's obvious that despite Taito can die, he seems to use more his power which robs him of his humanity since anything "Himea is going to die" and he does not mind using it even if it kills him as see in last episode.

So point being is love is blind and once you get dragged in you may never be what you were ever. In regards to that I feel bad for Taito because unlike Gekkou, he is bound to Himea and who knows if he dies when Himea dies. Servants are sometimes like that too.

And that is all.

Hungshu said:
Well 6/10 for me Himea Taito Haruka moment in class was nice.

I fell strange why Himea watch Taito die two time in rain but don't take him in building but she just wait to the him.

Hungshu said:
Well 6/10 for me Himea Taito Haruka moment in class was nice.

I fell strange why Himea watch Taito die two time in rain but don't take him in building but she just wait to the him.

VioLink said:
I doubt she would ever care if the bugs started eating the other students

ShinnKamiyra said:


I can understand why it would come off as strange, but it's not as though they were in the midst of a life or death battle this time where Taito was at a serious risk for really losing his life.

In both the manga and LN, Himea told Taito to get back inside before he was at any serious risk for using up the rest of his lives. Given that there wasn't any other immediate threat, she had no real reason to be concerned that Taito would lose anymore of his lives before the fifteen minute time limit reset itself.



Probably not. With the exception of Taito of course, she doesn't hold individual human lives in much regard. One could argue it's an expected result of the 'world' she lives in, one in which humans are easily treated as little more than food to some.

LordMarluxia said:
I like how Gekkou completely ignores the part where his parents were killed as if it was some sort of every day occurrence and only slightly gets angry about how his twin brother said he would kill him. lol this series

ShinnKamiyra said:


You've got to admit that Gekkou's pretty interesting in that respect. Though why do you believe he ignored his parents' deaths as though it were something trivial and focused all his intent on Hinata?

Mayhaps he's too much of a genius for us to really understand? Lol.

rodac said:
Or maybe he has already moved beyond the limited human perceptions of good and evil. After all, they have already mentioned Crowley's name in connection with one of the organizations after Himea. Since "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" seems to be the philosophy driving Hinata, we shouldn't be surprised if Gekkou is a little more concerned about what his twin is up to.

Not having read the manga or LN yet, I can't comment on fidelity to character, but it strikes me that based on the semi-spoilers in other comments we have a lot to learn about just who Himea and a few other folks really are in this anime. Remember that Himea aged herself to catch up with Taito as soon as she escaped from the void--the ditzy 16 year old identity she currently has is as meaningful as a t-shirt and jeans. Just be mindful that relationships between humans and immortals are usually tragedies, not romances.

And yes, I hate the new ED as well...

ShinnKamiyra said:


As a finale to this brief, but enjoyable discussion on my end, let me just say that I don't feel sorry for Taito as I believe he's doing what he wants to do in protecting Himea. As one who harbors an honest desire to grow stronger in order to protect something important to him; regardless of what happens to his body, he's still a human in every way that really matters, IMO.

As to whether or not he'll die when and if Himea dies... well, that's a discussion for another time, and one a long ways off. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

As people who hold fundamental differences in our opinions, naturally we will never see things in the same light. ...Still, this was fun in its own way. It's nice to be able to argue with someone whose opinions are quite a bit difference from my own.