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07-03-11, 9:40 AM

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Honestly, is it really that big a deal how old Kotetsu and Karina are? Falling in love with someone isn't logical. (Though I personally do see a father/daughter thing going on)

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I'm surprised that they made it obvious that Karina is in love with Tiger. Prettygood episode but I'm a slash fan, so it's obvious that I disapprove this relationship (tbh I'm raging inside. This filler was so unnecessary!). TxB all the way please.

I doubt they'll make it any more obvious (as in them actually going out). They know the huge T&B slash market right now, they wouldn't crush that! Or so I hope? 8D;;

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I'm pretty sure it was Kaede browsing the pictures (smaller hands + pink nails) and she has an obvious crush on Bunny. o:
 
07-03-11, 10:02 AM

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Personally, I think the outcome of the Rose issue is that she will put things into perspective. She will realise that she has a lot of life ahead of her and is still working on finding out who she is as a person. Then she will probably wait and see if she still likes Tiger in a few years or not, in the meantime just get to know him better as a person. At least that is where I see this going for three reasons:

1. She is currently immature, not ready for a relationship with someone older.
2. She wouldn't just stop liking him in "that way". Such an event would be rather insensitive and lazy writing, especially since she has liked him for at least a year. Feelings just don't disappear in an epiphany. And the Tiger & Bunny staff has sensitivity down to a science.
3. She will not want to hurt Tiger emotionally, especially in the context of a lost loved one and the fact she doesn't know Kaede (yet). She should be friends with Kaede before any relationship is possible.

And over the course of her waiting period, she or Tiger might meet someone and have their own happy ever after.

Next episode, Sky High... I get the sinking feeling his heart is going to get broken, I am going to cry ;_;, I love him so much, almost as much as Kotetsu and maybe more than Karina... maybe, so difficult to decide.
 
07-03-11, 11:06 AM

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5/5 for some reason i like this episode :)


 
07-03-11, 11:11 AM

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Could Tiger's power is beginning to develop ?

 
07-03-11, 12:05 PM

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Insensitive and lazy writing's a given in this case, as much as one would like to see more complex writing regarding the rest of the cast; after all, the show's called Tiger&Bunny. I just hope that the intensifying aspect of love in the plot isn't a result of that. (Sky High, I fear for him~)

Feelings don't disappear, they simply evolve and change with the person; that's where they've got Blue Rose covered, but I would have preferred something less cliche for a female character; as her entire character hanging on her feelings for Tiger would be, to say the least, lame.
Then again, this show's got its own token gay stereotype.
 
07-03-11, 12:39 PM

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... rather insensitive and lazy writing,


Sorry to quote out of context, but this is my major complain so far for the series. Specially the lazy part. I wanted this anime to be a 10, but so far for me it's barely hanging on to an 8... and quickly dropping.

I was somewhat surprised by the suggested Kotetsu+Karina pairing, I really thought it was going to be Kotetsu+Agnes... but Agnes became nothing more than a sporadic background character after episode 3.
 
07-03-11, 12:45 PM

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Woah, it's as if Bunny's personality completely changed. :O
I like the fact Tiger is getting recognition and stronger, looks like he'll get even cooler.
 
07-03-11, 2:19 PM

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i hope in the finale tigers powers do go away, like in the final battle, that would be very interesting

also i feel like a ass sinc eon all the past forums i kept tellign all the people that were shipping kotetsu and katrina were idiots and then "sigh" of course it happened, im still gonna pretend it was just a father daughter like relationship

also finaly barnaby acts like a good freind, i actually smile dwhen they were complimenting eachother, this show has some magical feeling of when im watching it im happy, the only other 2 shows that happened to me with were star driver and gurren, and clannad but it didnt make me feel happy as it progressed for obvious reasons for whoever has seen the show, could it be any more of a downer, but back on topic

this show is awsome and i look forword to sky highs ep, i wanted to see him get a ep since the 1st ep, i just love his catchphrase, also do you think this ranking is right

1:barnaby
2: sky high
3: blue rose
4: kotetsu
5:ivan
6:fire emblem
7: rock bison

it sounds about right i cant remember what blue rose's ranking was in the start so i dont know how her drop put her im guessing she was rank 2 originally
 
07-03-11, 3:05 PM

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Huhu, funny stuff this time with a 10 months time leap, Blue Rose's realization, Tiger's new powers etc... Looking forward to the following episodes.

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07-03-11, 3:14 PM

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That random change in personality...
mmm, suspicious, very suspicious xD
anywho, seems like Tiger is either, having an upgrade in power, or second power? o: ?
speed..or ..something..mmm
who knows
next episode seems good <3
 
07-03-11, 4:09 PM

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I found it interesting that Tiger and Bunny were forced to sing and release a CD in the anime, because that's what their voice actors are going to do in real life too! Their character song's going to be released on the 24th of August :D
http://tiger-and-bunny.livejournal.com/37157.html
 
07-03-11, 4:33 PM

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This one was good!
It's nice the partners have come to a mutual understanding. And Blue Rose's crushing is so cute.
 
07-03-11, 4:34 PM

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blue rose: always bringing out the best in tiger. ( in more ways than one )

but lmao, i can't believe people are taking it too seriously. realistically, the pairing isn't going to happen; the same thing goes for the tiger/bunny ship. so what's the point of all these age calculations, LMAO.... blue rose is adorable though, hnnggh. o///////o
 
07-03-11, 4:50 PM

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nice epic episode! Bunny is now a bro, and Tiger isn't stuck in last anymore. not surprised there was a slight time skip. Tiger even got complimented for helping poor Rock Bison and found the criminal with a banana peel! still his powers seem to be changing. lol Blue Rose wants some of Tiger. still isn't he a bit old for her? oh well, I don't see anything more than a 1 sided crush.

Sky High episode next time finally. still could use more Rock Bison but he did a little here.
 
07-03-11, 4:57 PM

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Some fabulous dancing this episode, and Blue Rose was so cute with her one-sided crush.
 
07-03-11, 5:10 PM

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rurupoi said:
Honestly, is it really that big a deal how old Kotetsu and Karina are? Falling in love with someone isn't logical. (Though I personally do see a father/daughter thing going on)

DarkVieN said:
I'm surprised that they made it obvious that Karina is in love with Tiger. Prettygood episode but I'm a slash fan, so it's obvious that I disapprove this relationship (tbh I'm raging inside. This filler was so unnecessary!). TxB all the way please.

I doubt they'll make it any more obvious (as in them actually going out). They know the huge T&B slash market right now, they wouldn't crush that! Or so I hope? 8D;;

DarkVieN said:


I'm pretty sure it was Kaede browsing the pictures (smaller hands + pink nails) and she has an obvious crush on Bunny. o:

the producers should consider NOT losing T&B's female fans DX

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... rather insensitive and lazy writing,


Sorry to quote out of context, but this is my major complain so far for the series. Specially the lazy part. I wanted this anime to be a 10, but so far for me it's barely hanging on to an 8... and quickly dropping.

I was somewhat surprised by the suggested Kotetsu+Karina pairing, I really thought it was going to be Kotetsu+Agnes... but Agnes became nothing more than a sporadic background character after episode 3.

Tiger x Agnes? That's somehow fine with me lol
 
07-03-11, 5:41 PM

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loved this episode! It was so CUTE and lighthearted.

Regardless of where the KarinaxKotetsu goes, I think Karina is absolutely adorable with her schoolgirl crush on an older man. I predict something will happen to make her realize it can never work out, but she will still care for him - greatly respecting him as a wise hero.

Kotetsu's power is probably evolving. Can't wait to hear more about it. Strangely, i have a bad feeling about the whole thing.

Aw, Rock Bison is last :( But glad Tiger isnt!

Dancing was hi-la-ri-ous! Who thought up that choreography!? They are totally doing this for us fans to have a good laugh. Kotetsu doing the robot was GOLD.

I liked the new OP and ED. Gotta grow on me a bit.

Aaaand, the preview looked good! I'm ready to see Sky High get tons of screen time.
 
07-03-11, 6:14 PM

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hmm my anime instincts tell me I def cannot see this change to Tiger's power being a good thing

but this was a nice episode . Blue Rose x Tiger... i can see that happening

nice new ending theme song
 
07-03-11, 6:20 PM

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I Think the more power he uses the less time he has
 
07-03-11, 7:31 PM

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I don't get where people get the "father figure" and "mentor" images from. She NEVER has seen him as a father figure (she has a good father who loves her dearly already BTW), and no where is it stated he was a mentor or we've seen him trying to be a mentor. Everytime they talked, it was simply just friends talking to one another. A lot of people who felt a "family relationship" looked too deeply into what's really there. All there is Kotetsu helping another one of his friends when she was down in the dumps, what he's known for.

You're making yourself see more ick than what's really even there, and its really not any IMO.
 
07-03-11, 10:04 PM

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The new OP reminds me of this song (tear jerker warning): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2mH7wFiaKo


I actually thought of Bump of Chicken pretty quickly after hearing the beginning of the OP, but I thought more along the lines of Tentai Kansoku and Karma (the second half of the song, not so much). The ED is a nice song, but I'm not too sure how well it'll fit with the show.

I liked this episode, laughed at the fact there was some crazy fanboy cosplaying like that. This "love" thing is indeed a bit weird, but again as others have pointed out Kotetsu's pretty much clueless anyway, so it all works out. The time skip right in the middle was a bit weird, considering everyone's all buddy-buddy now, but it's nice to see that they've changed since the beginning. Wondering how they'll take the superpower issue and run with it.

PS: Minor leaguers, sigh...
 
07-03-11, 10:14 PM

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hmm my anime instincts tell me I def cannot see this change to Tiger's power being a good thing

but this was a nice episode . Blue Rose x Tiger... i can see that happening

nice new ending theme song
more like your common sense, its obviously gonna screw him over, i dont think it would go into the depressing side of end up killing him but i hope it does, i like the stories where the MC has a power that will kill him but he uses it anyway to protect the people he cares about sorta like tales of the abyss, heroic sacrifices are truely a amazing and depressing thing to see
 
07-03-11, 11:33 PM

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Ok I thinks its time for me to over-read the opening and the plot, let's see how much i can exaggerate this

1) That's totally Kotetsu's daughter using that iphone(?), since there's even pictures of kotetsu's wife there, and when she reaches the picture of Bunny, Kotetsu takes it away ... Hmmm does this mean anything?

2) In the short part when they are showing the Hero cards, Tiger is the only card that is looking at Bunny, Hmmm

3) Tiger's face when he said he was probably evolving made me think that he's gonna go mad

4) The fact that everything is going how Tiger ever wanted... Something bad is going to be knocking on his door anytime soon

So what can I say after all of this? You might think I'm mad (that's because I am) but I think that Tiger is actually gonna go evil in the end, after fighting Lunatic, probably over his daughter. But this is just me being overly-dramatic...

What do you guys think?
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07-03-11, 11:34 PM

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And Kotetsu's powers are most definitely disappearing because brain tumors.

LOL.

Obv. his powers are disappearing, but at least he's getting a power boost with it. Maybe its recharge time will shorten as well.

Tiger X Blue Rose kinda creeps me out... still fun to watch though. Glad to see this anime is still just as great.
 
07-04-11, 6:35 AM

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I think that Tiger may get a second power (like Jake)

^i hope so, that would be so cool!
but what is happening to his current one?
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07-04-11, 9:16 AM

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Ok I thinks its time for me to over-read the opening and the plot, let's see how much i can exaggerate this

1) That's totally Kotetsu's daughter using that iphone(?), since there's even pictures of kotetsu's wife there, and when she reaches the picture of Bunny, Kotetsu takes it away ... Hmmm does this mean anything?

2) In the short part when they are showing the Hero cards, Tiger is the only card that is looking at Bunny, Hmmm

3) Tiger's face when he said he was probably evolving made me think that he's gonna go mad

4) The fact that everything is going how Tiger ever wanted... Something bad is going to be knocking on his door anytime soon

So what can I say after all of this? You might think I'm mad (that's because I am) but I think that Tiger is actually gonna go evil in the end, after fighting Lunatic, probably over his daughter. But this is just me being overly-dramatic...

What do you guys think?


1. I totally agree, Kaede is the one holding the iphone (product placement?), the hands are the proportionate to a child's.

3. I have had a sinking feeling that the red glow may give a boost but also sacrifice something: sanity? long life? health? If the show does go the way that leveling up one's power costs the user, that would make some fascinating implications.
 
07-04-11, 9:18 AM

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Has anyone noticed the significant drop in animation quality in this episode? (especially how the characters' faces are drawn) Maybe I'm too picky about the details, but they're starting to distract me to considerable extent...

I'm still very curious about Tiger's new power, so I feel hesitant to drop this show now... -_-

 
07-04-11, 11:16 AM

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ok anyone else notice the ominous music that played when tiger said his powers must be evolving.....yah hes fucked,

also this show is so good it hurts, its like when i was watch gosick i just wanted to see the next part immediatly but had to wait a week
 
07-04-11, 11:21 AM

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Has anyone noticed the significant drop in animation quality in this episode? (especially how the characters' faces are drawn) Maybe I'm too picky about the details, but they're starting to distract me to considerable extent...

I'm still very curious about Tiger's new power, so I feel hesitant to drop this show now... -_-
well i mean that commen in anime after the big finale, they put their budget all into the jake battles that the next few quieter ones wont be as good, besides this shows animation wasnt all that great from the start but the color pallete was different and enjoyable to look at
 
07-04-11, 11:38 AM

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ItsSoPringles said:
stevewiess01 said:
Has anyone noticed the significant drop in animation quality in this episode? (especially how the characters' faces are drawn) Maybe I'm too picky about the details, but they're starting to distract me to considerable extent...

I'm still very curious about Tiger's new power, so I feel hesitant to drop this show now... -_-
well i mean that commen in anime after the big finale, they put their budget all into the jake battles that the next few quieter ones wont be as good, besides this shows animation wasnt all that great from the start but the color pallete was different and enjoyable to look at


And even with the drop in quality, it's still superior to most other series. And the BD/DVDs improve the graphics in the less detailed scenes immensely. It's just called budgeting, even Neon Genesis had lackluster animation at points.
 
07-04-11, 11:44 AM

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AstuteOtaku said:
ItsSoPringles said:
stevewiess01 said:
Has anyone noticed the significant drop in animation quality in this episode? (especially how the characters' faces are drawn) Maybe I'm too picky about the details, but they're starting to distract me to considerable extent...

I'm still very curious about Tiger's new power, so I feel hesitant to drop this show now... -_-
well i mean that commen in anime after the big finale, they put their budget all into the jake battles that the next few quieter ones wont be as good, besides this shows animation wasnt all that great from the start but the color pallete was different and enjoyable to look at


And even with the drop in quality, it's still superior to most other series. And the BD/DVDs improve the graphics in the less detailed scenes immensely. It's just called budgeting, even Neon Genesis had lackluster animation at points.
yah evangelion had that one infamous scene where it was litterly a still picture for 10 min, rahXephon is the noly serise that had amazing animation throughout, it did dip here and there but it was always above being above average,
 
07-04-11, 5:16 PM

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Me and my friend watched this together and spent most of the episode like this "..." or laughing at the ridiculousness. XD That dance...... And wtf is with dancing in the first place? Kotetsu used to dislike things like that.

I totally get Blue Rose having feelings for Kotetsu. She's young and he's a pretty cool older man, but I just can't see them in a relationship. He's too devoted to his wife and kind of clueless to her feelings, treating her more like a 'student'.

We MUCH prefer the old Bunny, he's no fun anymore, at least in this episode. The whole reason we liked Kotetsu and Barnaby was because of the way they acted before.

We prefer the first opening better, this one was kinda of boring. I liked the ending though, I think.

The next looks ehhh. We're worried it's going to go too far into romance and lose all the fun stuff that hooked us in the first place.

But like we said, we can only wait and see...
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07-04-11, 6:06 PM

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Oh my goodness, this episode was HILARIOUS! XD Both the OP and ED were quite good, but way more logos in the OP now lol :P
Haha, Blue Rose likes Kotetsu! So canon now lol XD I don't think that Kotetsu would ever go out with her though fanon has done too much to me ...
Anyways. The dance thing was hilarious XD Animation felt a bit off this episode though. Looks like something's happening to his powers too. Oh and the second tier Heroes are funny lol :P
Lots of love nowadays huh? ;O Dunno how I feel about Sky High being the next one ... :3
 
07-04-11, 6:45 PM

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ItsSoPringles said:
yah evangelion had that one infamous scene where it was litterly a still picture for 10 min, rahXephon is the noly serise that had amazing animation throughout, it did dip here and there but it was always above being above average,


Only Gintama can pull off still pictures for 10 minutes. :'D
Hanasaku Iroha has surprisingly kept up its gorgeous animation.

The faces in T&B are so often deformed lol. And Barnaby's hair ughhhh!!!
The animation quality took a nosedive long before ep 13. But hell, I still love this show. xD;;
 
07-04-11, 8:08 PM

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I found this episode fun.

Blue Rose in dere-dere is a big plus for me.. :D

I totally LMAO'd at Kotetsu with his robot dance. xD

Evolving power seems interesting.

Next seems another romance themed.
 
07-04-11, 8:10 PM

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rurupoi said:
ItsSoPringles said:
yah evangelion had that one infamous scene where it was litterly a still picture for 10 min, rahXephon is the noly serise that had amazing animation throughout, it did dip here and there but it was always above being above average,


Only Gintama can pull off still pictures for 10 minutes. :'D
Hanasaku Iroha has surprisingly kept up its gorgeous animation.

The faces in T&B are so often deformed lol. And Barnaby's hair ughhhh!!!
The animation quality took a nosedive long before ep 13. But hell, I still love this show. xD;;
dude gintama is the only show that can pull off a lot of things, ecpecially when elizibeth is involved, when she.....he......it is involved the shows possibilities are endless

really BONES is the only studio that has consistant animation throughout all their serise, though i know a few of their has some drops, tokyo magnitude had a drop since they put most of their budjet into the backrounds and star driver i think had a very very hard to notice dip cause they put 30% of their budget into the final fight, and the final fight was about 20 min long, thats not a exageration m being seirous that final ep was all fighting
 
07-05-11, 6:35 AM
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Me and my friend watched this together and spent most of the episode like this "..." or laughing at the ridiculousness. XD That dance...... And wtf is with dancing in the first place? Kotetsu used to dislike things like that.

I totally get Blue Rose having feelings for Kotetsu. She's young and he's a pretty cool older man, but I just can't see them in a relationship. He's too devoted to his wife and kind of clueless to her feelings, treating her more like a 'student'.

We MUCH prefer the old Bunny, he's no fun anymore, at least in this episode. The whole reason we liked Kotetsu and Barnaby was because of the way they acted before.

We prefer the first opening better, this one was kinda of boring. I liked the ending though, I think.

The next looks ehhh. We're worried it's going to go too far into romance and lose all the fun stuff that hooked us in the first place.

But like we said, we can only wait and see...

Your and your friend's opinion are my thoughts exactly, I agree with every single word you wrote.
I sincerily hope that Sunrise will not screw up an anime that has been so awesome in the first half. But it's surely too early to have such negative thinking, so let's just wait for next Saturday and see.
 
07-05-11, 7:40 AM

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The new OP is super awesome although it was too spoiler-ish..

The episode was kinda ok -__-..
 
07-05-11, 9:48 AM

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nice to see that blue rose has feelings for tiger, but man, whats going to happen to kotetsu i wonder...
 
07-05-11, 4:01 PM

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I thought his powers are enolving and he's starting to learn how to use them. I hope it's not "his powers are disappearing."

I only have the following to say about Blue Rose crush or love or whatever about tiger

1) The dude is like in his 30s
2) That dude is clueless about her feelings for him..........like typical anime heroes.
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07-05-11, 8:47 PM

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I thought his powers are enolving and he's starting to learn how to use them. I hope it's not "his powers are disappearing."

I only have the following to say about Blue Rose crush or love or whatever about tiger

1) The dude is like in his 30s
2) That dude is clueless about her feelings for him..........like typical anime heroes.
the only people that are oblivious to feelings are harem leads and kyon, i cnat blame kotetsu for being oblivious i mean do you ever think at all in your life:

"that chick thats half my age...........she defently wants me"
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"that chick thats half my age...........she defently wants me"


This made me spray water all over my neighbour's computer screen, thanks! LOLZ
 
07-05-11, 10:25 PM

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And still, nobody can prove his in his mid to late 30's.

I bet he's only 30, if not 29.
 
07-05-11, 10:32 PM

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And still, nobody can prove his in his mid to late 30's.

I bet he's only 30, if not 29.
we dont have any prof were just guessing, biggest bit of evidence to support his age being mid 30's is he had a daughter thats 9 and that barnadby called him old man, it wouldnt make sense to call someone a old man when their only 4 years older than you,

but in reality none of us know and hey it may end up like gosick where everyone was guessing vis age, we were all positive she was 11 when it turned out she was 14, mabey well think a reverse that or hell mabey kotetsu will really be in his late 30's to early 40's none of us know, i bet the creator hasnt even thought about his age
 
07-06-11, 12:49 AM

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My own personal headcanon is that Kotetsu is about 35. That puts him about 10 years older than Barnaby - old enough for Barnaby to call him "old man" and for it not to be ridiculous. If Kotetsu is 29 and Barnaby is 24, and he's referring to him that way? It's a little silly, even if it is just to bug him. Not only that, but despite his goofiness, Kotetsu acts like a man in his 30s.

I think Karina's crush on him is just that - a crush. I mean, what teenage girl *wouldn't* think Kotetsu is awesome? But if it goes into serious relationship territory, I'm afraid I'm out. She's a girl in high school who still lives at home, he's a grown man who's been married, suffered the loss of a spouse, and is struggling to be a good father to a (now 10 year old) daughter. Plus, it's just darn creepy. He's referred to Karina as a "kid" too many times for me to be comfortable with anything past just friendship. ;)
 
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Thats the thing though, Kotetsu ISN'T the type of guy the teenage girls are flocking too. Barnaby is the pretty boy that the girls break their legs to get too. For Karina to show attraction to someone like him shows how she is maturing as far as taste, cause everything he has going for himself is something a girl who wants a family would want.

Don't automatically assume its impossible, their are plenty of anime that falls into this category...

Didn't we just have a series about a 23 year old guy falling in love with a 10 year old succubus?

Barnaby calling Kotetsu old when he's only 5 years younger is the entire point of the insult. Think of how they do the same thing in the sports world, once you're 30, you are old and everyone talks about it.

Think of it like this, Kotetsu has only been a superhero for 10 years, and we see most superheroes start in highschool. 10 years later you get 29-30.
 
07-06-11, 5:17 AM

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Ok, I'll put it this way - when I was a teenage girl, I would have loved Kotetsu. I mean, sure people treat him like a goof, but let's face it - dude's gorgeous. Yes, most teenage girls *would* fall for a guy who's hot and actually pays attention to them. Well, at least I would have, when I was that age.;)

I... didn't watch a series about a 23 year old guy falling in love with a 10 year old succubus for a reason. Just not my bag. Which is why I hope not to see any of that sort of nonsense in my favorite show right now.:)

And while the new crop of heroes we see is young, Bunny didn't start 'til he was 24, which would put him at 34 after 10 years in the game. Not sure how old Kotetsu was when he started, but it's not automatic that he was a teen when he did. And he was in high school at the same time as Rock Bison, and ol' Antonio doesn't look 29 (at least, not to me).
 
07-06-11, 8:10 AM

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This is not a filler because ep.26 is short to even make a filler.
The op was okay but ED is really bad. ED 1 was way too good.
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07-06-11, 9:31 AM

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I'm kind of in the same boat - I like the OP better this time around, but I miss the original ED. Maybe it was that establishing shot of the doves flying over Sternbild. ;)
 
07-06-11, 11:15 AM

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Am I watching the same show? 180° turn there...
 
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