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Jun 25, 2011 2:59 PM

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Great episode, show needs more 8-10's.
Jun 25, 2011 3:53 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:
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Kujo is not in Russia, based on the uniforms hes with the Japanese Army, most likely in China.
Probably, but didn't the Second Sino-Japanese war only begin in 1931? The story for this episode is cleary set in 1925. It's possible he's just in a military training camp in northen Japan (where it is known to snow a lot, mostly Hokkaido).
He was in Russia because North of Saubrume is Russia. Then again WTF at that. How did he end up there and for what reasons he never bothered to escape?
Hey Yumekichi, I think you've got your geography a bit messed up there.
North of Sauville (Saubreme was the capital, remember?) would probably be something more like Switzerland, as it's got Italy and France to the east and west respectively.
Sure, Russia's pretty big, but it ain't that big.
And we did get to know that Grevil had followed his father's orders and sent Kujo back to Japan, so that Kujo's now in the Japanese military is the logical assumption to make in this case. And even Japan's got snow. Like Jonijonh said before, in Hokkaido for example.
I agree but cannot go with this. I doubt Kujo would let himself be whisked away to Japan, they may have sent him to place where they can keep him close to Victorique but at the same time far from her. I think it may not be North exactly but it's somewhere in that direction. He may be in Siberia.


It's clear that he is with the Japanese army because you can see the soldiers eating with bowls and chopsticks in the cafeteria scene. Japan was in eastern Siberia for a brief period during the Russian Civil War. One could argue that this is his unit in an alternate history where Japan stayed longer in Siberia.

"North" is a very ambiguous description because Siberia covers almost half of the globe in the northern areas of Earth. There was no Japanese presence in western Europe in the 1920s, so it's probably not exactly north of Sauville.
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Jun 25, 2011 5:09 PM
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Waiting till next week to watch this episode because I want to be able to watch it and 24 back to back so theres no week of suspense :)
Jun 25, 2011 5:18 PM

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arsonal said:
It's clear that he is with the Japanese army because you can see the soldiers eating with bowls and chopsticks in the cafeteria scene. Japan was in eastern Siberia for a brief period during the Russian Civil War. One could argue that this is his unit in an alternate history where Japan stayed longer in Siberia.

"North" is a very ambiguous description because Siberia covers almost half of the globe in the northern areas of Earth. There was no Japanese presence in western Europe in the 1920s, so it's probably not exactly north of Sauville.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart my friend. You have proven in a more precise and though out way what I meant to say. In the end we were both right in the area being Siberia. No it may not be North but North was mentioned as to where Kujo was sent. Very good info my friend, it never crossed my mind.

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Jun 25, 2011 6:25 PM

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The Marquis went down too easily, but the fight was pretty epic.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
Jun 25, 2011 7:05 PM

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Albert reminds me of a certain character in Deadman Wonderland....and It's making me angry. Cordelia doesn't deserve that kind of an end. At least she took Albert down with her.
Jun 25, 2011 7:16 PM

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Aww man, Kujo lost all his pretty hair :( But Ahh, I can't wait for the last episode!
Jun 25, 2011 8:30 PM

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Kujoooo :( your hair i was shocked and scared, i didn't reconize you!
YEAH Victorique escaped :]
The other "Brian Roscoe" tried to kill Victorique :[
WHOA at Cordelia Fighting like a ninja :0
damn, that guy killed Cordelia.

Why does this episode feel like a "Romeo and Juliet" situation.
Jun 25, 2011 9:01 PM

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The to do list, all unconfirmed until ep 24:

To die:
Marquis Albert de Blois
Brian Roscoe 2 (the hater)
the old hag from a few eps back; stabbed Brian 1
King Rupert
The anal soldier who beat up Kujo and disrespected Victorique/Cordelia's ring

To live:
Kujo Kazuya
Victorique de Blois
Cordelia Gallo
Brian Roscoe 1 (the lover)

To live but died?:
Cordelia Gallo
Brian Roscoe 1 (the lover)

To have a royal ass-kicking:
Grevil de Blois

To do:
- if Cordelia or Brian 1 dies, then the other should too (otherwise it'd be too sad for one of them to live without the other)...Brian 2 doesn't count: he's just a flat third-wheel that needs to be tossed.
- reunite Kujo and Victorique

What NOT to do:
- have Marquis Albert de Blois, old hag, and/or the King Rupert live
- give us a shit ending like no reunion between Kujo and Victorique, feeding us more crap along the lines of "their hearts will always be connected"...that's nice and all, but still half-assed if it just ends at that.

Unless this show meets the following requirements...no more 10/10 for me. minus 1 for everything not listed.
Jun 25, 2011 9:34 PM

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i want to rate it a 5 but Kujo's hair really disturbs me.. i want his old hairstyle back!~
Jun 25, 2011 10:07 PM
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dont get me wrong Marquis de Blois may be one of the most evil fuckers ever in anime(the guy has a huge role in starting BOTH world wars and hes still done so much more things,) but this is the charecter where death was way too good for him, dont get me wrong seeing that fucker dieing a violent stab to the chest and hopefully wasnt instant so the bastard dies slowly, but this is one of those charecters that deserves so much worse than death, like this person deserves to be in a concentration camp

also RIP cordellia and brian 1.0, brian 2.0 cna fuck off i hope he dies too, hopeing for a happy end but seeing how 3 people just died its gonna proboly be a bittersweet(though as ive stated, one of them deserved every last embrace of death)
Jun 25, 2011 10:58 PM

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4kicks said:
The to do list, all unconfirmed until ep 24:

To die:
The anal soldier who beat up Kujo and disrespected Victorique/Cordelia's ring

To have a royal ass-kicking:
Grevil de Blois

Unless this show meets the following requirements...no more 10/10 for me. minus 1 for everything not listed.
- That soldier isn't important enough to be brought back.
- But.. I like Grevil! D:

Wow, that was the best episode yet. The fight scene at the end was pretty impressive. Looks like my lovely Cordelia is about to bite the dust, as well as Roscoe. If one Roscoe dies, the other is probably going to as well. I doubt Kujo is going to show up and save Victorique, so unless Roscoe #2 settles down from his adrenaline rush, I can only think of Grevil being the one to save Victorique. The guy just has to come around some time, right? I don't like the idea of Grevil continuously being the evil elder brother.

Oh, and Kujo's hair. Gotta fix that before he meets Victorique. :P
Jun 25, 2011 11:05 PM
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Iilia said:
4kicks said:
The to do list, all unconfirmed until ep 24:

To die:
The anal soldier who beat up Kujo and disrespected Victorique/Cordelia's ring

To have a royal ass-kicking:
Grevil de Blois

Unless this show meets the following requirements...no more 10/10 for me. minus 1 for everything not listed.
- That soldier isn't important enough to be brought back.
- But.. I like Grevil! D:

Wow, that was the best episode yet. The fight scene at the end was pretty impressive. Looks like my lovely Cordelia is about to bite the dust, as well as Roscoe. If one Roscoe dies, the other is probably going to as well. I doubt Kujo is going to show up and save Victorique, so unless Roscoe #2 settles down from his adrenaline rush, I can only think of Grevil being the one to save Victorique. The guy just has to come around some time, right? I don't like the idea of Grevil continuously being the evil elder brother.

Oh, and Kujo's hair. Gotta fix that before he meets Victorique. :P
yah people are hating on grevil to much, yah he fucked so much up but hes obviously helping vic out here, if him giving her the dress wasnt obvious enough that he cares and was helping her escape, plus grevil is gonna be the only one who can save vic......oh god how much would it suck if grevil ended up biting the dust too aloen with 2nd brain, i mean the death toll is at 3 already(brian 1, cordellia, and albert thank god for this fuck dieing)
Jun 25, 2011 11:30 PM

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Question. How faithful exactly is the anime to the light novel?


Jun 26, 2011 2:41 AM

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Question. How faithful exactly is the anime to the light novel?

Unknown. The final arc of the story (after the Coco Rose case) is untranslated outside Japan. Tokyopop released 2 volumes in the US and 6 volumes in Germany. The Coco Rose case is resolved in volume 7, which was released in March. Part 1 of volume 8 was released earlier this week, while part 2 will be released in July. This 2-part final volume is titled "Twilight of the Gods".

I have outlined my thoughts about the final arc of Gosick in this blog post.
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Jun 26, 2011 2:57 AM

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arsonal said:
darthfanta said:
Question. How faithful exactly is the anime to the light novel?
Unknown. The final arc of the story (after the Coco Rose case) is untranslated outside Japan. Tokyopop released 2 volumes in the US and 6 volumes in Germany. The Coco Rose case is resolved in volume 7, which was released in March. Part 1 of volume 8 was released earlier this week, while part 2 will be released in July. This 2-part final volume is titled "Twilight of the Gods".
I'd personally say the anime is about as faithful as it can be when cramming it all into 24 episodes.
They're skipping details, as expected, but then again, I've only read those two volumes Tokyopop published and it's not like they'll publish anything else, since they're dead and all.
And actually, the novels do give us all the details required to solve things before Victo spews it all out, which they're missing a lot of in the adaption. But again, as I've only read the two first volumes, I can't say if this holds true for the rest of the cases.
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Jun 26, 2011 6:01 AM

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Eww why would that old fart bite Victorique's ear? That's so uncalled for lol.
And Victorique looks to be in a pinch with batshit crazy Brian Roscoe twin. Looking forward to the next episode!
Jun 26, 2011 9:57 AM

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Wow.Epic episode. I enjoyed every minute!

The Kujo moments were the most disturbing to me.... I miss him and Victorique together.

:(
Jun 26, 2011 10:24 AM

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Kujo needs to grow his hair back ASAP.
And I'm so glad Albert is dead, he is nothing but a jackass.
Confusing episode, but still good.
Jun 26, 2011 1:57 PM
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Yoda Cordelia.
Jun 26, 2011 6:01 PM

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Holy fuck! What! What's up with the turn of event in anime this week!
Jun 27, 2011 9:54 PM
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Cordelia takes on 2 guys while the magician takes on only 1. Still sadly she died. She and her daughter never got to be together :(
Jun 28, 2011 6:33 AM

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Wow, that Cornelia has/had some bad-ass skills.
Now it's just waiting for the next epi and hopes it solves the remaining questions.
*crosses fingers* I do ofcourse hope Victorique and Kujo meet again (maybe half a year later though, so Kujo can grow his hair back).
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Jun 28, 2011 12:30 PM
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Holy fuck! What! What's up with the turn of event in anime this week!
EVERYONE MUST DIE IN THE END


its kinda a unwritten rule in anime now
Jun 29, 2011 9:45 AM

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I wasn't sure where Kujo was until I saw the soldiers eating with chopsticks, then I figured Japanese army. Looks like he is getting some rough treatment because dad is an officer and the sarge has a hard-on for him. It was very Kujo-like to take the beating and not strike his superior, yet never let go of the ring!

For those of you that hate his hair, that's the point! The military buzz serves two purposes:
1. Harder to get lice if you got no hair.
2. Removes individuality from the soldier, making him more part of the group and less of an individual.

I don't get what they are doing with the time line! It is way too early for the start of WWII, but I guess since it is a fictional world, they can do as they please, but WWII without the world-wide financial melt-down that preceded it is a bit wrong!

I can't wait for the final episode! I wish the books were available in English! (Viz? Yen? Seven Seas? Somebody buy the rights now that TokyoPop has dropped the freakin' ball!)
Jun 29, 2011 12:33 PM

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Whoa, Kujo looks weird.
Brian Roscoe has apparantly a twin or something like that and one of them is trying to kill Victorique. Didn't expect him to want to kill her.
I was almost glad that Albert de Blois died, finally he died. But the moment I saw blood coming from Cordelia I thought "wtf, she died, eeeeehhh~, no I don't want that....".
It seems that Kujo and Victorique will meet next episode, but I expect that the war will continue in eternity because the series will end this way. Or maybe we'll get a timeleap and we see the war has ended and Kujo and Victorique happily living together, or something like that.
Jun 29, 2011 1:29 PM

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Wow, where did this come from?

Anyhow one of the best episodes can't wait for the next one.

Based on preview (And current episode) I'd say Brian Roscoe ends up to be the real enemy after all. (But I'm not good at this procrastinating)
Jun 29, 2011 8:28 PM

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Great episode. Cordelia badass fighting, can't wait for the last episode.
Jun 29, 2011 10:02 PM

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Wow, I definitely didn't see that coming. This whole episode was a roller coaster! I can't wait to see how the season ends, and I hope and pray there is a second season!
Jun 29, 2011 10:49 PM

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wowwww cordelia damnnn girl. brian fucking sucks. and whats the point of him having a twin??

kujos hair (loss) is really bad..
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Jun 30, 2011 12:17 AM

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Holy crap wow... Cordellia is like freakin' Yoda!

The part with Kujo was sort of disappointing...

In any case, can't wait for last episode!
Jun 30, 2011 3:32 AM

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wow...... Cordelia has some slick moves....... :D

btw superb epi.
Jun 30, 2011 4:55 AM

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Oh fuck how i loved this episode.
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Jun 30, 2011 5:30 AM

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What an awesome episode. Even though it had a lot of mistreatment and death in it, I was happy to see that a**hole got what he deserved. Now let's hope he actually died, cause that wasn't shown in the end. I have a bad feeling about it though. Idiot biting Victorique in her ear like that. >.<

Now on the other hand we have the whole ordeal with the Roscoe's and Cordeila/Victorique. I don't think Cordelia survived with a slash to the throat like that. It is of course certain Victorique survived, but what happened? Who saved her?

Can't wait for the finale! =D

Jun 30, 2011 3:11 PM

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man this episode was bas ass

&ang90; i guess what that old man from the Village of Gray Wolves was right that Victorique and Kujo were going to get separated (T_T)

→ i didn't know Cordelia can fight!!! GO Cordelia!!!
→ thank god Brian #1 is helping her
→ seriously Brain #2 is try to kill Victorique, when her knows Cordelia treasure her (and sacrifices her life for Victorique

▲But does Cordelia actually giver up her life to set free Victorique?
Jun 30, 2011 7:10 PM
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For those complaining about the WWII starting too soon... Guess why Saubure isn't in the map ; D

My best guess is Germany will whipe out Saubure as an experiment for WWII. Blitzkrieg and all that jazz.

Anyway, great episode. Lookin' forward to the end.
Jun 30, 2011 7:20 PM
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I wasn't sure where Kujo was until I saw the soldiers eating with chopsticks, then I figured Japanese army. Looks like he is getting some rough treatment because dad is an officer and the sarge has a hard-on for him. It was very Kujo-like to take the beating and not strike his superior, yet never let go of the ring!

For those of you that hate his hair, that's the point! The military buzz serves two purposes:
1. Harder to get lice if you got no hair.
2. Removes individuality from the soldier, making him more part of the group and less of an individual.

I don't get what they are doing with the time line! It is way too early for the start of WWII, but I guess since it is a fictional world, they can do as they please, but WWII without the world-wide financial melt-down that preceded it is a bit wrong!

I can't wait for the final episode! I wish the books were available in English! (Viz? Yen? Seven Seas? Somebody buy the rights now that TokyoPop has dropped the freakin' ball!)


I imagine that the next episode's developments will bring the story back to the normal timeline....... Unless Broscoe takes an even higher level in badass and kills Hitler and Mussolini. lool
Jun 30, 2011 9:06 PM

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Gotta admit, this episode surprised me....didn't expect to see what I saw...

Can't wait for the finale....although I think it will be predictable.
Jul 1, 2011 5:18 AM

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Okay wow, Brian just lost some cool points. Brian 2.0 at least. Brian 1.0 is still as amazing as ever <3 Protecting Cordelia like that. Go Brian! I'm hoping Cordelia isn't really dead >: Don't want 1.0 dying either D: They're awesome.

Cordelia vs Marquis was amazing. So glad he's dead.

Poor Victorique has been going through quite a lot of shit. And Kujo with that hair! Everyone in the army has to cut their hair, so it was inevitable ahaha.

I'm pissed at Grevil. Thought he was better than that.
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Marquis Albert de Blois is a sick fuck, I cringed so badly when he bit vic'torique's ear. I actually want him to die in a more painful way with longer time before his death, not just died from one stab in a stomach. I felt sad with Cordelia and Brian 1 dieing...:(

Brian 2 is frustrating...Is that all he can think of? What a cop out solution for him to do that and I expect Brian to be smarter than that. I expect a lot more people to be smarter in this series, apparently they are not what I'm have expected. -__-
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The end of the episode was a bit obviously, that was Cordelia and not Victorique. I really want to know if Cordelia will die and Kujo and Victorique will reunite again.
Jul 1, 2011 10:03 AM
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so am i the only person who started applauding when albert got what was coming to him, even though i too thought he deserved worse?
Jul 1, 2011 12:19 PM

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Cordelia is a ninja! did you see her moves? i think this is a strange anime, i am finding it hart to follow, like why are there two of those red haired guys? hmmmm
Jul 1, 2011 2:12 PM

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Am I like, the only one who isn't absolutely loving this show or something? O_O
K first off, I'm pretty sure WW2 doesn't start in 1925. I'm pretty sure it starts in 1939. So, uhm, yea, mega fail much O_O
Albert randomly takes over because Leviathan tricked him? O_O Uh, OK. Sure. He became Prime Minister and died the same day? Uh, wtf, OK. Lol. About the battle, I don't see why they just would RANDOMLY MAKE BRIAN A TWIN. I MEAN LIKE WTF SRSLY O_O The fight scene was pretty cool, EXCEPT THEN EVERYONE DIED. Cordelia, Albert, and the GRANNY? Did Brian die too? Too confusing, way too rushed. Don't really see how killing everyone is supposed to make Cordelia likeable, if that's what she's going for. Or maybe it's the whole I'll sacrifice everyone for you thing. Dunno :S
That being said, uhm, evil Brian tries to kill Victorica. Although obviously it doesn't work. Dur. Kind of stupid, does he have no brains? Obviously Cordelia's gonna hate him after, but she's dead now. Oh dear.
PLUS, OKAY, THE WHOLE ROMANTIC THING IS JUST TOO BORING NOW. STOP SPINNING IT OUT, GOD. Less Kujo in this episode was good, so was less Victorica, but STILL. UGH. I DUNNO. Plus they kind of ruined Grevil too
So much for hoping it would get better in the later episodes. Pretty much no expectations for the finale now -_-"
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so am i the only person who started applauding when albert got what was coming to him, even though i too thought he deserved worse?

No your not I thought he was a huge dick this entire series and it was about time someone put him in his place.

I don't like Kujo's hair I liked it when it was longer and not army cut. Dx
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Jul 2, 2011 9:07 AM

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oh shizzle that was an amazing episode.
Jul 2, 2011 10:13 AM

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I'm kinda confused.

Why is there a war happening?? Albert took control of the people with just the Monstre Charmant tale?? O_o

Plot aside, badass cordelia is badass. I bet she's a ninja. :D

Last ep to go..
Jul 2, 2011 6:01 PM

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I'm going to agree with everyone else here. I liked Kujo's hair long also Cordelia is bad ass.
Jul 2, 2011 6:15 PM
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I'm going to agree with everyone else here. I liked Kujo's hair long also Cordelia is bad ass.
badass dead chick
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I'm going to agree with everyone else here. I liked Kujo's hair long also Cordelia is bad ass.
badass dead chick


I'd be afraid of my mom if she could pull off those moves. But then again it'd be fun dodging her when I rebel. :P
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