Gosick Episode 23 Discussion

mcjazzman32 said:
I swear to all thats holy this story better not end up as some poorly misguided tragedy where everyone dies and Victorique and Kujo are forever separated. Given the tendency of the Japanese to do exactly that, my hopes are not high.

Cordelia's mom going off like Yoda was lame. It was a great-looking sequence, but it totally goes against the universe of the story. No one has been shown they can jump or fight like that, and all the sudden she's a ninja.

AngelicFeces said:
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What the hell is with Brian? What's the deal with this other half stuff?

Ranger_Chris61 said:
Kujo is not in Russia, based on the uniforms hes with the Japanese Army, most likely in China.

MiMikuChan said:

lol yea, it doesnt fit him at all D:

BioPi said:
Is it just me or has this show gotten a lot more interesting?

Brace625 said:
I remember when people kept saying it's WWII that's going to separate them, which looks like it is, but an alternative history WWII that happening 15 years early. That or somehow everyone working on Gosick failed history at school (unlikely :P)

Mockman said:

It looks like an alternative history. WWI.5.

I think at the end of it, Saubure will cease to exist, as Seyrun had before. So the map of Europe will look the way it really did, with the France-Saubure border becoming the France-Italy border.

De Blois prediction around Jupiter Roget may come true in some weird way. I can't help but believe that he's lurking somewhere nearby.

Grevil looks in the abyss.

Ranger_Chris61 said:
Kujo is not in Russia, based on the uniforms hes with the Japanese Army, most likely in China.

Jonijonh said:


Probably, but didn't the Second Sino-Japanese war only begin in 1931? The story for this episode is cleary set in 1925. It's possible he's just in a military training camp in northen Japan (where it is known to snow a lot, mostly Hokkaido).

Anyway, this was a great episode. Very tense and dramatic! I just want them to end up together, somehow... And three cheers for Cordelia! Very badass indeed ;)

Jonijonh said:
Probably, but didn't the Second Sino-Japanese war only begin in 1931? The story for this episode is cleary set in 1925. It's possible he's just in a military training camp in northen Japan (where it is known to snow a lot, mostly Hokkaido).

darthfanta said:
This episode made no sense at all. As someone else had mentioned, it came out of no where. Worst episode of this series.While some people say that this is the best episode, because there were fights. To me,however, this episode was utterly nonsense. Gosick is a highly-plot driven show, with mystery being it's main attraction.Tthe fight at the end, however,as well as other events within this episode -- were just too random.If I wanted fights, I would have definitely watched Hidan no Aria,Fairy Tail,Ao no Exorcist,Deadman Wonderland or 'The Money of Soul and Possibility Control' instead.Besides, the history in this episode is crap. Germany in 1925 has no offensive-capabilities at all. It has a highly-well trained, but ultimately meager army of only 100,000 with no reserves. They don't even have tanks,heavy artillery ,and not to mention--an air force.It couldn't even defend itself from the Franco-Belgian invasion and occupation of Ruhr between 1923-1925. How could it even fight a war. As well as that, isn't Saubre a bit too small to even try attacking France and Britain? It's more like an Alpine version of Belgium.

Yumekichi11 said:
He was in Russia because North of Saubrume is Russia. Then again WTF at that. How did he end up there and for what reasons he never bothered to escape?

darthfanta said:
This episode made no sense at all. As someone else had mentioned, it came out of no where. Worst episode of this series.While some people say that this is the best episode, because there were fights. To me,however, this episode was utterly nonsense. Gosick is a highly-plot driven show, with mystery being it's main attraction.Tthe fight at the end, however,as well as other events within this episode -- were just too random.

GarLogan78 said:
[According to UTW, they are like trying to condense two full novels into two 22 minute episodes. So I guess it make sense that it seems out of place based on the pacing of the rest of the show.

Oosran said:
Hey Yumekichi, I think you've got your geography a bit messed up there.
North of Sauville (Saubreme was the capital, remember?) would probably be something more like Switzerland, as it's got Italy and France to the east and west respectively.
Sure, Russia's pretty big, but it ain't that big.
And we did get to know that Grevil had followed his father's orders and sent Kujo back to Japan, so that Kujo's now in the Japanese military is the logical assumption to make in this case. And even Japan's got snow. Like Jonijonh said before, in Hokkaido for example.

Yumekichi11 said:
I agree but cannot go with this. I doubt Kujo would let himself be whisked away to Japan, they may have sent him to place where they can keep him close to Victorique but at the same time far from her. I think it may not be North exactly but it's somewhere in that direction. He may be in Siberia.

arsonal said:
It's clear that he is with the Japanese army because you can see the soldiers eating with bowls and chopsticks in the cafeteria scene. Japan was in eastern Siberia for a brief period during the Russian Civil War. One could argue that this is his unit in an alternate history where Japan stayed longer in Siberia.

"North" is a very ambiguous description because Siberia covers almost half of the globe in the northern areas of Earth. There was no Japanese presence in western Europe in the 1920s, so it's probably not exactly north of Sauville.