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I watched the OP and now I'm not sure if I even want to check this out, let alone watch it. =/

OP has a catchy tune, but the actual content of the song annoys me.
I see "We're coming from you live from High School" and I just have to roll my eyes.

I just noticed that the girl came up with the henshin pose. I guess that's new.

Well, Susan, it's just 23 minutes to check it out. The episode wasn't anything as awesome as Gokai's 1st, but I was entertained.

And yes, the OP's lyrics aren't that good. They could've done the whole springtime of youth the japanese are so crazy about without actually mentioning school life.

But I wasn't expecting anything different. It's school, space, action, friendship, efforts and victory. The last three can be shortened to shounen.

Man, if I judged a show by its opening, I'd call Kamen Rider Blade an over-stylized piece of junk from its first opening and an angst-ridden pretty boy love-fest by its second.

Double post! Just watched episode 1.

Episode 1:
Glad I didn't judge the show based on its opening, because I actually really liked it. The school setting and hidden clubroom definitely makes this show feel like an older tokusatsu, which I find to be very welcome.

This episode definitely echoed the first episode of Kamen Rider Kabuto. Except if Tendou were friendlier, and Kagami was a snot-nosed brat. Seriously, Kengo? Fuck you. Douche.

lol @ cheerleader entrance. I seriously wanted them to show "HIBARI FOOOOUR!"

Of course, watching this dashed my hopes for Karikyuranger....

Tuning in next time for sure!

Just what a high school setting and a hidden clubroom have to do with older tokusatsu? I mean, there were two or three sentai in which the rangers were somehow related to a school setting, but most toku have nothing like that.

I mean just the overall idea of kids taking the fight into their own hands to battle an enemy, mostly without adult supervision or permission. Inazuman, Chojin Barom-1, and Denji Sentai Megaranger to name a few. The idea that the youth has to save the day brings back memories of THOSE tokusatsu. I didn't say all old-school tokusatsu, m4rc0. After all, not every toku series in the 1970s through 1990s had manly men saving the day. Some of them had *gasp* KIDS as protagonists. I'm glad Fourze is taking Kamen Rider into that direction because, let's face it, the franchise was creatively bankrupt.

"The school setting and hidden clubroom definitely makes this show feel like an older tokusatsu..."

I don't know about the others, but this looked to me like a generalization. And well, even though " not every toku series in the 1970s through 1990s had manly men saving the day", most of them were like that.

"kids taking the fight into their own hands to battle an enemy, mostly without adult supervision or permission" is very common in japanese media, but that wasn't the case with toku.

"The idea that the youth has to save the day brings back memories of THOSE tokusatsu."

That's an specific statement nobody can argue with. I even pointed out that shows like that existed.

That was what I couldn't understand in the first statement, since those shows were exceptions and high schools aren't what comes to mind when one thinks about older toku.

As for Fourze being a new direction, I'm not sure about that. So far, except for the fact that it takes place in a high school, it has ALL the Heisei KR tropes. Except the restaurant/coffee house.

The problem with KR IMO is that it's stuck in a formula that limits the story. The random kaijin, the foundation, the main trio, countless forms and gadgets, the mandatory drama at the end...

I think the fact that Fourze is in a high school is what most definitely sets it apart. It doesn't have a menacing organization yet, we know nothing about the kaijin yet to judge them, and Fourze doesn't have forms at all. His overall look doesn't change, he just wields different weapons on his limbs. That's like saying Kamen Rider Super-1's Five Hands are forms.

Besides, most Showa Riders had a very strict formula too. The lead is transformed into a cyborg, must battle the group that made him that way, teams up with a motorcycle coach and battles a MOTW every week. Seriously, I'm watching Kamen Rider right now and it has almost the exact same formula as Kamen Rider Amazon.

"and Fourze doesn't have forms at all"

And you say thata based on what information? He doesn't have tons of forms right from the start, like OOO or W, but this doesn't mean he won't have. In fact, W and OOO are the odd ones, since most Heisei have only 2 or 3 forms. And I am 100% sure he'll have at least one more form

And don't worry, we'll have the organization. Sooner or later. The kaijin might actually have a point. I never wrote they wouldn't.

Even so, those are only 3 from MANY Heisei tropes. Fourze has a lot of the other tropes, like the two male and one female main trio, the emo stuff, just to name a few.

" most Showa Riders had a very strict formula too"

Yes, they did. And that's why it ended. We only had KR again after the metal heroes died and Toei decided to mix them both to create Heisei KR.

Yeah, but don't call for days of Showa Riders again when those days too were guilty of following a restrictive formula.

Oh, and Kamen Rider has always been notable for angst. You just let the older shows slide because it's older manly men complaining about being cyborgs.

Pretty much this. When I watched the OP I was like "It's the end of the Kamen Rider franchise...that's it" but the episode was actually entertaining....

However, the OP was really scary.... I mean... really scary.

When did I call for Showa Riders?

You seem obsessed about the idea of older manly man... As I wrote earlier in this thread, there's nothing about old guys in Showa.

And you can't seriously compare being abducted and experimented on and/or having your family killed with the usual Heisei whining. Also, older KR didn't dwell too much on it after the KR decided to fight evil.

And seriously, I don't know why you're bringing up Showa riders all the time when we're discussing Heisei Riders. It's not a competition between the two eras. Or at least it shouldn't be.

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Very entertaining so far.

Episode 2:

Yes, but Decade and Kiva had broken the chain... After W this is the 3rd series with this concept. I just hope they keep it up and manage not to make it get old fast.

Pretty entertaining episode. The goth girl was really cute. Now the only character who remains is the playboy. Hope he has a part in the next two episodes.

The only downside was the thing when

the deisan og the rider suit is bad the face looks painted on

but the best Heisei rider was kuga by far

plus i hate the form Spam of most if not all modern riders ishi sensei did not make that Idea thy have killed the idels of rider than he ceated

in the manga Hongo dies

thers been no deaths in any Hei era KR Manga [ brfoe you say sprits its was a showa rider that dies in that if i remmber

id lovw if one day if thay brought back a Tachibana style chratcert ie a mentor that goes in to may shows

and also Bring back the scafs

EP 3:
My favorite pool from every JAV involving a pool ever made an appearance!

So does this mean we're back to one story = two eps format?

Also, back to ep 2, kinda neat referencing the past riders. Though lol just an urban legend when there are unfathomable amounts of witnesses and property damage involved. Maybe they hired the guys from the Transformers 2 movie that covered up giant robots in China. I'm kinda hoping any future crossovers aren't limited to movies.

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