Shiki Specials Episode 1 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Shiki Specials Episode 1 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 112 | 83.58% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 13 | 9.70% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 6 | 4.48% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 2 | 1.49% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 1 | 0.75% |
Voters: 134
#41
06-16-11, 3:56 AM
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GarLogan78 said: I feel bad for Nao in that she just wanted a happy peaceful life, but ended up getting a terrible one. She probably thought her family would rise when she killed them, and that they could live together again as Shiki. In the manga Nao even admitted that she was a cruel murderer. she willingly followed Sunako's orders to attack the villagers during the blitzkrieg. She also killed her sister-in-law out of spite that she still had a warm husband... |
#42
06-16-11, 9:03 AM
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wow this was pretty gruesome, i feel bad for nearly every one in this story, because no one is left un hurt whether it is by memories, or by actual death. |
#43
06-16-11, 10:42 AM
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Shiki is just too good... wonder what 21.5 is gonna cover |
#44
06-16-11, 11:51 AM
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TuesdayBlues said: Shiki is just too good... wonder what 21.5 is gonna cover I hope the rumor i heard is true and it covers motoko |
#45
06-16-11, 1:11 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 13 |
shadowii said: the only thing i would point out is that the humans who are killing the shiki would have killed humans if they had become shiki and the shiki here would have killed shiki if they were still human, after all these are all villagers that and one interesting observation, in the manga it was shown that a shiki disobeying the kirishiki family got tied to a tree and burned to death, here they had the humans doing that BUT they kept my favorite pipeline moment: you know how one of the big ways used to make kiiling someone in fiction more "heroic" or "righteous" is "I am avenging my family" There's munetaka looking down saying "I cant kill Yuzuki-san, he was such a good person and friend to me" and I'm thinking "Mune THATS THE ONE WHO KILLED YOUR SON AND TURNED YOUR BROTHER" and he'll never know that Not that Sadofumi (who by the way is another of my manga favorites) cares which shiki killed his loved ones at this point, His father AND his son are already gone and he knows he'll be alone when this is over: he just wants as many of the them to die to make the buzzing in his ear go away. anyway i heard the last special, which comes out next week and will take longer to sub, will center one of my favorite characters: Motoko The Shiki you are talking about that burnt to death didn't actually get burnt to death in the manga. He survived. It's the same Shiki they killed first in this episode and is also the guy who attacked Masao. Modified by LordJupiter, 06-16-11, 1:14 PM |
#46
06-16-11, 2:22 PM
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LordJupiter said: shadowii said: the only thing i would point out is that the humans who are killing the shiki would have killed humans if they had become shiki and the shiki here would have killed shiki if they were still human, after all these are all villagers that and one interesting observation, in the manga it was shown that a shiki disobeying the kirishiki family got tied to a tree and burned to death, here they had the humans doing that BUT they kept my favorite pipeline moment: you know how one of the big ways used to make kiiling someone in fiction more "heroic" or "righteous" is "I am avenging my family" There's munetaka looking down saying "I cant kill Yuzuki-san, he was such a good person and friend to me" and I'm thinking "Mune THATS THE ONE WHO KILLED YOUR SON AND TURNED YOUR BROTHER" and he'll never know that Not that Sadofumi (who by the way is another of my manga favorites) cares which shiki killed his loved ones at this point, His father AND his son are already gone and he knows he'll be alone when this is over: he just wants as many of the them to die to make the buzzing in his ear go away. anyway i heard the last special, which comes out next week and will take longer to sub, will center one of my favorite characters: Motoko The Shiki you are talking about that burnt to death didn't actually get burnt to death in the manga. He survived. It's the same Shiki they killed first in this episode and is also the guy who attacked Masao. I know what your talking about but thats not what i am. According to tohru's diallogue when he visits sunako its happened a few times and once they made him drag and bury one of the charred corpses |
#47
06-16-11, 5:49 PM
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LordJupiter said: EnkoKasumi said: That was really brutal. I completely support humans though. After all each and every shiki there chose their own lives before the lives of their friends and family, just like that boy said to Nao "If you didn't kill them, then you would've died." I don't understand how can a mother choose to kill her own child in order to satisfy her hunger. I just cannot feel sorry for them. What I didn't like was the crudeness of the men when they tied up the shikis and left them on the sun to die slowly. That is just too cruel. I liked the new couple, they seemed like nice people. She wasn't doing it to satisfy her hunger. She was doing it so that they would become like her. She wanted to be with her family which was impossible since she was a Shiki and they weren't. Yet, none of them asked for that, did they? She had no right.  |
#48
06-16-11, 6:12 PM
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EnkoKasumi said: LordJupiter said: EnkoKasumi said: That was really brutal. I completely support humans though. After all each and every shiki there chose their own lives before the lives of their friends and family, just like that boy said to Nao "If you didn't kill them, then you would've died." I don't understand how can a mother choose to kill her own child in order to satisfy her hunger. I just cannot feel sorry for them. What I didn't like was the crudeness of the men when they tied up the shikis and left them on the sun to die slowly. That is just too cruel. I liked the new couple, they seemed like nice people. She wasn't doing it to satisfy her hunger. She was doing it so that they would become like her. She wanted to be with her family which was impossible since she was a Shiki and they weren't. Yet, none of them asked for that, did they? She had no right. it is too bad that despite how great this show it, it does take a few liberties with basic logic. you'd think it would have occured to her to tell her family what was going on (hiding the fact that she must have already killed someone at that point), then get her family to leave town with her before tatsumi found out. not a perfect solution as they would age and she wouldnt but: instead her family died in misery as one after another died, her sons last word was mama and her husband got to hear that before he died |
#49
06-17-11, 12:31 AM
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Oh it's this creepy and heart-wrenching(no pun intended) anime again. Perfect for the summer! I find it creepy when the humans are humming a song while they were killing shiki. Can't wait for the second episode! |
#50
06-17-11, 4:41 AM
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This episode reminded me just how awesome shiki is... and cruel.. Perhaps it was sad but i started laughing when the humans started killing eachother , the irony was just too big.  |
#51
06-17-11, 8:42 AM
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I cried during this episode, it was too heartwrenching. I think that tying the shikis and leting them get burned by the sun is the most cruel, painful and slow way to kill them. What that Hasegawa guy did was actually the last act of humanity that he could have done towards the shiki, He gave them a quick death, because he knew that it was too cruel to let them agonize like that. in a way, I respect him for that. Just who are actually the real demons ? |
#52
06-18-11, 2:10 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 199 |
I was almost crying during this episode... Hasegawa-san, who was acquainted with Nao or Ritsu, was the coolest person in this episode. He avoided fighting and killing shiki for himself, but he started stabbing and killing them to alleviate their agony. Well, actually I really miss watching Shiki. This show is the very best anime in 2010. I guess I wouldn't find this great and absorbing anime for a time. |
#53
06-18-11, 3:27 AM
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Such a wonderful episode! I was really glad that that crazy blonde haired leader was there to set the moral high for the group. Obviously in those high stressful situations,humans start to make crazy decisions on their own. It's kinda like drowning in water while someone is telling you to calm down. |
#54
06-18-11, 10:32 AM
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luvisuzu said: Such a wonderful episode! I was really glad that that crazy blonde haired leader was there to set the moral high for the group. Obviously in those high stressful situations,humans start to make crazy decisions on their own. It's kinda like drowning in water while someone is telling you to calm down. just to mention it crazy blond man's name is Sadofumi. Before this story started he was a happy son and father and a relatively nice guy (in the manga there'a a scene with him shooting the breeze with Nao's family) Then his son died from shiki bites and his father was shot through the head by seishirou (yep zeus beard) and he bacame a vengeful psycopath who still hears th cicada chirpping from the day his son died (characters like that are my favorites) |
#55
06-18-11, 3:57 PM
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This extra episode is just helping to reaffirm why Shiki has become one of my favorite anime. And Sadofumi while justifiably angry and a little off-kilter goes off the deep end just like Ookawa. Killing humans who have only been bitten once even though everyone knows there's a rather long period of time before they'll turn and if he had just waited for Toshio he would've known that they could've fully recovered. Poor Nao. |
#56
06-18-11, 9:19 PM
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I wish they animated this scene from the manga: |
#57
06-18-11, 10:41 PM
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Humans: Hunting and killing Shiki's just like any other day in the office. While I do feel bad for them. The Shiki is also guilty of doing the same thing to the humans though in a not brutal and violent way. They do it slowly and gently. This episode though, is disturbingly realistic. Just speaks volumes how human's will act when they feel threatened. |
#58
06-20-11, 11:37 AM
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That was one of the most heart-wretching things I've ever seen. People can do inhuman things to defend themselves. Plus, violence accepted by everybody turns us into monsters, something even lower than animals. Yeah, sure they had to kill those vampires, but they didn't have to torture them. It's surprasing how episode whithout any major characters is still good, one of the best actually. Maybe that just proves how great the plot is.  |
#59
06-20-11, 1:06 PM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 13 |
hmm what has been seen cannot be unseen. No srsly who te fuck is demons ? Human affcorse. No mercy when that people tied to the stake and what? "Do you see as the sun burned their faces? WOAAH". Respect for that man who killd them and took pity on them. Like a (BOSS) God lol. Very, very insane, but awsesome :D Nao... I fell sorry for her but what should I do ? xd Very good episode, I wait for the next ;> |
#60
06-24-11, 5:21 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 299 |
Same here, i wasnt prepared for the awesomeness and gruesomeness of this anime. This episode was really good, we get to understand more of what the Shikis think. And the way they made the people grin and sing in a manipulating voice made it like the humans were going mad, which they were kinda. You wouldnt be feeling fine if shit that like happens. It was real sad how the orange haired guy killed 2 people who got bitten, but this just shows how everybody wants to live, weather if they're are alive or dead alive. Really awesome. Maybe they will make a second season, but if they do they need to make it just as good the the first.      |