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Jun 14, 2011 5:11 PM

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That was really brutal. I completely support humans though.

After all each and every shiki there chose their own lives before the lives of their friends and family, just like that boy said to Nao "If you didn't kill them, then you would've died." I don't understand how can a mother choose to kill her own child in order to satisfy her hunger. I just cannot feel sorry for them.

What I didn't like was the crudeness of the men when they tied up the shikis and left them on the sun to die slowly. That is just too cruel. I liked the new couple, they seemed like nice people.
 
Jun 14, 2011 5:59 PM

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That was really brutal. I completely support humans though.

After all each and every shiki there chose their own lives before the lives of their friends and family, just like that boy said to Nao "If you didn't kill them, then you would've died." I don't understand how can a mother choose to kill her own child in order to satisfy her hunger. I just cannot feel sorry for them.

What I didn't like was the crudeness of the men when they tied up the shikis and left them on the sun to die slowly. That is just too cruel. I liked the new couple, they seemed like nice people.


She wasn't doing it to satisfy her hunger. She was doing it so that they would become like her. She wanted to be with her family which was impossible since she was a Shiki and they weren't.

Unfortunately for her none of them rose up.

Also the Man from the couple appeared a couple episodes ago.
 
Jun 14, 2011 7:13 PM

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nao got what she deserved and i love how they show all the humans who were originally the victims turn all crazy and ruthless...just more shiki goodness...i wish this show continues 4ever
 
Jun 14, 2011 7:24 PM

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Forgot how good this show is. Definitely gotta re-watch when all the BDs are out.
 
Jun 14, 2011 8:00 PM

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nao got what she deserved and i love how they show all the humans who were originally the victims turn all crazy and ruthless...just more shiki goodness...i wish this show continues 4ever

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I don´t feel bad for Nao...the bish killed off her whole family and also kicked fellow vampire to face and almost scalped another fellow vampire´s ass(ha:)) so she can survive...As Sirius Black would say:"You should have died! Died rather than betray your friends, as we would have done for you!"
Seriously,i know not everyone can be Ritsuko...but...

Anyway,that was pretty disgusting how they killed the guys just because they were bitten:/

This episode was pretty amazing...i totally miss watching Shiki.


Both of the above. Nao looked crazy-maniacal the whole series (Stalked the doctor...etc) and didn't seem like she was conflicted... whatever.

It was brutal to watch, but they did what they did to survive. I don't endorse some of the torture, but if they don't kill the shiki, the humans are next.

Kinda angered me during the series that we didn't see any feelings/humanity left in the Shiki (All they did was scare people, sneak around, and kill/feed - other than Tohru), and then at the end we're supposed to feel conflicted because all of a sudden they feel scared.

Either way, good show. Go Humans.
 
Jun 14, 2011 8:07 PM

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Those poor, cute vampires. T_T
 
Jun 14, 2011 8:29 PM

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This just blew my mind. Amazing. Most powerful episode I've seen in a long time... I didn't even know what to think half the time, it was sick. Almost started crying near the end.
 
Jun 14, 2011 9:06 PM

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This left me speechless. i cant help but feel sympathy toward the Shiki. this was a really sad episode. definitely one of the best specials ive ever seen. but it was nice to see an episode of one of my favorite horror anime again. cant wait for the next one.
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Jun 14, 2011 10:06 PM

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i forgot how depressing this show is, my body was not ready ;-;

but finally saw a human i can have a shread of respect for.
 
Jun 14, 2011 10:10 PM

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An extremely emotionally powerful episode, even better than the tv episodes, IMO, I remembered how Berserk last 2 episodes shook me the same way as this episode.
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Jun 14, 2011 10:40 PM

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Well I WAS going to go to sleep...
 
Jun 14, 2011 11:50 PM

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God I missed this show so much. The humans pretty much turned into the shiki themselves, if not worse.
 
Jun 14, 2011 11:55 PM

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Wow... That was a rather great episode.
 
Jun 15, 2011 9:05 AM

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Oh how I love the bone chilling music here. Missed it so much. Simply amazing.
And dem killings. Just...I'm speechless.
Breathtaking episode. But where are the main characters?
And the characters hear sound familiar even though they only just appeared here. Any idea who are the seiyuus? I definitely heard Kakihara Tetsuya.

Nao ;____;
 
Jun 15, 2011 3:19 PM

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I think Dean Winchester said it best.

"I'll say it again. Demons I get, people are crazy.... "

"I always take life with a grain of salt, ...plus a slice of lemon, ...and a shot of tequila."

 
Jun 15, 2011 4:53 PM

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MusashiRose said:
PnkRxPrncss said:
nao got what she deserved and i love how they show all the humans who were originally the victims turn all crazy and ruthless...just more shiki goodness...i wish this show continues 4ever

Black_wind said:
I don´t feel bad for Nao...the bish killed off her whole family and also kicked fellow vampire to face and almost scalped another fellow vampire´s ass(ha:)) so she can survive...As Sirius Black would say:"You should have died! Died rather than betray your friends, as we would have done for you!"
Seriously,i know not everyone can be Ritsuko...but...

Anyway,that was pretty disgusting how they killed the guys just because they were bitten:/

This episode was pretty amazing...i totally miss watching Shiki.


Both of the above. Nao looked crazy-maniacal the whole series (Stalked the doctor...etc) and didn't seem like she was conflicted... whatever.

It was brutal to watch, but they did what they did to survive. I don't endorse some of the torture, but if they don't kill the shiki, the humans are next.

Kinda angered me during the series that we didn't see any feelings/humanity left in the Shiki (All they did was scare people, sneak around, and kill/feed - other than Tohru), and then at the end we're supposed to feel conflicted because all of a sudden they feel scared.

Either way, good show. Go Humans.


Wasnt that the mind control?

and also this epsidoe made me cry like a freaking baby loolz...
 
Jun 15, 2011 6:34 PM

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the only thing i would point out is that the humans who are killing the shiki would have killed humans if they had become shiki
and the shiki here would have killed shiki if they were still human,
after all these are all villagers

that and one interesting observation, in the manga it was shown that a shiki disobeying the kirishiki family got tied to a tree and burned to death, here they had the humans doing that

BUT they kept my favorite pipeline moment:
you know how one of the big ways used to make kiiling someone in fiction more "heroic" or "righteous" is "I am avenging my family"
There's munetaka looking down saying "I cant kill Yuzuki-san, he was such a good person and friend to me" and I'm thinking "Mune THATS THE ONE WHO KILLED YOUR SON AND TURNED YOUR BROTHER"
and he'll never know that
Not that Sadofumi (who by the way is another of my manga favorites) cares which shiki killed his loved ones at this point, His father AND his son are already gone and he knows he'll be alone when this is over: he just wants as many of the them to die to make the buzzing in his ear go away.

anyway i heard the last special, which comes out next week and will take longer to sub, will center one of my favorite characters: Motoko
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Jun 15, 2011 9:22 PM

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Oh man this ova reminded me how epic and horrible are these series >.<
 
Jun 15, 2011 11:43 PM

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It was hard to watch the humans kill the other humans. Getting bitten doesn't make you a Shiki, and no one would even test the theory. They just killed.

As for Nao, it would hurt so bad being stabbed with a rusty pipe like that, dragged along a sewer, then left to burn in the sun. I am glad Hasegawa put most of the Shiki out of their misery.

I feel bad for Nao in that she just wanted a happy peaceful life, but ended up getting a terrible one. She probably thought her family would rise when she killed them, and that they could live together again as Shiki.
 
Jun 16, 2011 1:46 AM

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Good special. There's substance and not just about killing. Emotions and flashbacks were done really well in invoking viewers' understanding of the charas and the story. Here, we also got to see how cruel human can be to save themselves. Even though having no more stakes to use against the shikis, slow death under sun is sure cruel. I like the couples from the cafe. The husband killed the shiki from further torture.
 
Jun 16, 2011 3:56 AM

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I feel bad for Nao in that she just wanted a happy peaceful life, but ended up getting a terrible one. She probably thought her family would rise when she killed them, and that they could live together again as Shiki.

In the manga Nao even admitted that she was a cruel murderer. she willingly followed Sunako's orders to attack the villagers during the blitzkrieg. She also killed her sister-in-law out of spite that she still had a warm husband...
 
Jun 16, 2011 9:03 AM

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wow this was pretty gruesome, i feel bad for nearly every one in this story, because no one is left un hurt whether it is by memories, or by actual death.
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Jun 16, 2011 10:42 AM

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Shiki is just too good... wonder what 21.5 is gonna cover
 
Jun 16, 2011 11:51 AM

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Shiki is just too good... wonder what 21.5 is gonna cover

I hope the rumor i heard is true and it covers motoko
 
Jun 16, 2011 1:11 PM

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the only thing i would point out is that the humans who are killing the shiki would have killed humans if they had become shiki
and the shiki here would have killed shiki if they were still human,
after all these are all villagers

that and one interesting observation, in the manga it was shown that a shiki disobeying the kirishiki family got tied to a tree and burned to death, here they had the humans doing that

BUT they kept my favorite pipeline moment:
you know how one of the big ways used to make kiiling someone in fiction more "heroic" or "righteous" is "I am avenging my family"
There's munetaka looking down saying "I cant kill Yuzuki-san, he was such a good person and friend to me" and I'm thinking "Mune THATS THE ONE WHO KILLED YOUR SON AND TURNED YOUR BROTHER"
and he'll never know that
Not that Sadofumi (who by the way is another of my manga favorites) cares which shiki killed his loved ones at this point, His father AND his son are already gone and he knows he'll be alone when this is over: he just wants as many of the them to die to make the buzzing in his ear go away.

anyway i heard the last special, which comes out next week and will take longer to sub, will center one of my favorite characters: Motoko


The Shiki you are talking about that burnt to death didn't actually get burnt to death in the manga. He survived. It's the same Shiki they killed first in this episode and is also the guy who attacked Masao.
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Jun 16, 2011 2:22 PM

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LordJupiter said:
shadowii said:
the only thing i would point out is that the humans who are killing the shiki would have killed humans if they had become shiki
and the shiki here would have killed shiki if they were still human,
after all these are all villagers

that and one interesting observation, in the manga it was shown that a shiki disobeying the kirishiki family got tied to a tree and burned to death, here they had the humans doing that

BUT they kept my favorite pipeline moment:
you know how one of the big ways used to make kiiling someone in fiction more "heroic" or "righteous" is "I am avenging my family"
There's munetaka looking down saying "I cant kill Yuzuki-san, he was such a good person and friend to me" and I'm thinking "Mune THATS THE ONE WHO KILLED YOUR SON AND TURNED YOUR BROTHER"
and he'll never know that
Not that Sadofumi (who by the way is another of my manga favorites) cares which shiki killed his loved ones at this point, His father AND his son are already gone and he knows he'll be alone when this is over: he just wants as many of the them to die to make the buzzing in his ear go away.

anyway i heard the last special, which comes out next week and will take longer to sub, will center one of my favorite characters: Motoko


The Shiki you are talking about that burnt to death didn't actually get burnt to death in the manga. He survived. It's the same Shiki they killed first in this episode and is also the guy who attacked Masao.


I know what your talking about but thats not what i am. According to tohru's diallogue when he visits sunako its happened a few times and once they made him drag and bury one of the charred corpses
 
Jun 16, 2011 5:49 PM

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That was really brutal. I completely support humans though.

After all each and every shiki there chose their own lives before the lives of their friends and family, just like that boy said to Nao "If you didn't kill them, then you would've died." I don't understand how can a mother choose to kill her own child in order to satisfy her hunger. I just cannot feel sorry for them.

What I didn't like was the crudeness of the men when they tied up the shikis and left them on the sun to die slowly. That is just too cruel. I liked the new couple, they seemed like nice people.


She wasn't doing it to satisfy her hunger. She was doing it so that they would become like her. She wanted to be with her family which was impossible since she was a Shiki and they weren't.

Yet, none of them asked for that, did they? She had no right.
 
Jun 16, 2011 6:12 PM

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EnkoKasumi said:
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EnkoKasumi said:
That was really brutal. I completely support humans though.

After all each and every shiki there chose their own lives before the lives of their friends and family, just like that boy said to Nao "If you didn't kill them, then you would've died." I don't understand how can a mother choose to kill her own child in order to satisfy her hunger. I just cannot feel sorry for them.

What I didn't like was the crudeness of the men when they tied up the shikis and left them on the sun to die slowly. That is just too cruel. I liked the new couple, they seemed like nice people.


She wasn't doing it to satisfy her hunger. She was doing it so that they would become like her. She wanted to be with her family which was impossible since she was a Shiki and they weren't.

Yet, none of them asked for that, did they? She had no right.


it is too bad that despite how great this show it, it does take a few liberties with basic logic.
you'd think it would have occured to her to tell her family what was going on (hiding the fact that she must have already killed someone at that point), then get her family to leave town with her before tatsumi found out.
not a perfect solution as they would age and she wouldnt but:
instead her family died in misery as one after another died, her sons last word was mama and her husband got to hear that before he died
 
Jun 17, 2011 12:31 AM

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Oh it's this creepy and heart-wrenching(no pun intended) anime again. Perfect for the summer!

I find it creepy when the humans are humming a song while they were killing shiki. Can't wait for the second episode!
 
Jun 17, 2011 4:41 AM

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This episode reminded me just how awesome shiki is... and cruel..
Perhaps it was sad but i started laughing when the humans started killing eachother , the irony was just too big.
 
Jun 17, 2011 8:42 AM

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I cried during this episode, it was too heartwrenching. I think that tying the shikis and leting them get burned by the sun is the most cruel, painful and slow way to kill them. What that Hasegawa guy did was actually the last act of humanity that he could have done towards the shiki, He gave them a quick death, because he knew that it was too cruel to let them agonize like that. in a way, I respect him for that. Just who are actually the real demons ?

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Jun 18, 2011 2:10 AM

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I was almost crying during this episode...
Hasegawa-san, who was acquainted with Nao or Ritsu, was the coolest person in this episode. He avoided fighting and killing shiki for himself, but he started stabbing and killing them to alleviate their agony.

Well, actually I really miss watching Shiki. This show is the very best anime in 2010.
I guess I wouldn't find this great and absorbing anime for a time.
 
Jun 18, 2011 3:27 AM

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Such a wonderful episode! I was really glad that that crazy blonde haired leader was there to set the moral high for the group. Obviously in those high stressful situations,humans start to make crazy decisions on their own. It's kinda like drowning in water while someone is telling you to calm down.
 
Jun 18, 2011 10:32 AM

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Such a wonderful episode! I was really glad that that crazy blonde haired leader was there to set the moral high for the group. Obviously in those high stressful situations,humans start to make crazy decisions on their own. It's kinda like drowning in water while someone is telling you to calm down.


just to mention it
crazy blond man's name is Sadofumi.
Before this story started he was a happy son and father and a relatively nice guy (in the manga there'a a scene with him shooting the breeze with Nao's family)
Then his son died from shiki bites and his father was shot through the head by seishirou (yep zeus beard) and he bacame a vengeful psycopath who still hears th cicada chirpping from the day his son died (characters like that are my favorites)
 
Jun 18, 2011 3:57 PM

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This extra episode is just helping to reaffirm why Shiki has become one of my favorite anime.

And Sadofumi while justifiably angry and a little off-kilter goes off the deep end just like Ookawa. Killing humans who have only been bitten once even though everyone knows there's a rather long period of time before they'll turn and if he had just waited for Toshio he would've known that they could've fully recovered.

Poor Nao.
 
Jun 18, 2011 9:19 PM

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I wish they animated this scene from the manga:
 
Jun 18, 2011 10:41 PM

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Humans: Hunting and killing Shiki's just like any other day in the office.

While I do feel bad for them. The Shiki is also guilty of doing the same thing to the humans though in a not brutal and violent way. They do it slowly and gently.

This episode though, is disturbingly realistic. Just speaks volumes how human's will act when they feel threatened.
 
Jun 20, 2011 11:37 AM

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That was one of the most heart-wretching things I've ever seen. People can do inhuman things to defend themselves. Plus, violence accepted by everybody turns us into monsters, something even lower than animals. Yeah, sure they had to kill those vampires, but they didn't have to torture them.

It's surprasing how episode whithout any major characters is still good, one of the best actually. Maybe that just proves how great the plot is.


 
Jun 24, 2011 5:21 PM

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Same here, i wasnt prepared for the awesomeness and gruesomeness of this anime. This episode was really good, we get to understand more of what the Shikis think. And the way they made the people grin and sing in a manipulating voice made it like the humans were going mad, which they were kinda. You wouldnt be feeling fine if shit that like happens. It was real sad how the orange haired guy killed 2 people who got bitten, but this just shows how everybody wants to live, weather if they're are alive or dead alive.
Really awesome. Maybe they will make a second season, but if they do they need to make it just as good the the first.
 
Jul 9, 2011 2:37 PM

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This episode (and the show in general) was really sad. I feel bad for the Okiagari. At the beginning of the show I kept thinking that they were evil and stuff, but this episode really shows how they have emotions too and the humans were being cruel and didn't even think of them as humans anymore. It was really sad.

The entire show is incredible! I loved this episode!
 
Jul 11, 2011 6:49 AM

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a very gory special indeed!!! That dude did the right thing, put them out of their agony...
 
Jul 23, 2011 1:19 PM

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I cried during this episode, it was too heartwrenching. I think that tying the shikis and leting them get burned by the sun is the most cruel, painful and slow way to kill them. What that Hasegawa guy did was actually the last act of humanity that he could have done towards the shiki, He gave them a quick death, because he knew that it was too cruel to let them agonize like that. in a way, I respect him for that. Just who are actually the real demons ?

exactly what I though... ignorant people are going to think, that Shiki is a meaningless horror vampire Anime. But even if this never could happen in reality.... there's so much truth about it, I could cry.
 
Jul 25, 2011 1:12 AM

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damn awesome eps ....feel sorry for those shiki ....
 
Jul 26, 2011 9:16 PM

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Danm, watching this episode totally made me miss the awesomeness of the anime and the amazing bgm. I had to feel bad for Nao though, having to touch that officer butt for so long.
 
Jul 28, 2011 2:47 PM

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Danm, watching this episode totally made me miss the awesomeness of the anime and the amazing bgm.

Same here.While watching it I thought:"Maaaan,I soooooooo miss this anime!!!" . And what's more,this whole episode was totally awesome. Filled with madness and brutality xD This Sadafumi guy might become one of my favourites.
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I had to feel bad for Nao though, having to touch that officer butt for so long.

I lol'ed

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Aug 1, 2011 6:25 PM

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Wow, I feel so effing bad for poor Nao-san, she hates herself but doesn't want to die, she loved her family but still wanted to kill them to be with her.
Her story is one of those that I believe most people would act the same way upon in this situation, her death was awful, the character that killed the most of them with such brutality, I personally think he was more terrifying than the Shiki themselves~

 
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People become suspicious all suddenly. I don't think those two men who just got bitten will become okiagari, but they decided to kill them anyway.

This special is another "shiki"-ish episode for me. Tragic and sad.
 
Aug 12, 2011 5:04 AM

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Too much violence but I'm not complaining. I'm currently using a public computer but if I were at home, I'd definitely cry, especially that scene in the end. T_T
 
Aug 14, 2011 5:45 AM

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I miss Shiki so much now.;_;

The episode was so amazing, but just nasty and gross too. D: I really felt for the poor Nao.. and the cruelty of the villagers is just so eww.

Really, Shiki just did such an excellent job in showing how evil humans can be, and this special just emphasized it so much better than the real show. Totally rewatching the entire thing soon (most likely after the second special airs).

You think you wouldn't do the same ? Ohh please, don't be so obvious. That is the true nature of humans, we all are predators, we are omnivorous, we kill or eat anything we want. And most importantly the mass always overcomes the minority. If I would be one of the vampires, I wouldn't be with other idiots.
 
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This episode was excellent. It totally gave me a throwback to how great Shiki was.

I believe the guy who was staking all of the shiki at the end was trying to put them out of their misery. Since all of the other humans were just going to let them rot in the sun. I love how this episode shows the madness that the humans brought upon themselves.
 
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