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In other words, what are some of our shared 9s to 10s ratings?

So far the only agreeable Anime that many elitist share are

Ghost in the Shell
Monster
Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuiokuhen
Cowboy Bebop
Seirei no Moribito
Rose of Versailles

Because we know everything other anime on this site is garbage.

Baccano?
FMA: Brotherhood?
Tatami Galaxy?
Nana?
Master Keaton?
Kino no Tabi?
Nodame Cantabile?
Welcome to the NHK?
Princess Mononoke?

Anyone strongly disagrees with those suggestions?

Those would be my picks from the list. Havent seen nana, master keaton, cantabile.
BTW kaiserpingvin doesnt like bebop :P hell, I think you'll have a really hard time coming up with a list that everyone agrees with.

what about some manga ?

Not everyone, MANY

For Manga, i am just going to say Berserk, Monster, and 20th Century Boys

If you're gonna be that strict than I have to disregard Seirei no Moribito, Aria and Kenshin from your list too. I wanted to be tolerant, but an eye for an eye :P.

So I don't agree with Aria and Moribito because even though I find them good, they're not as super awesome elitist. And Kenshin I'll deny just to annoy you :P.
And are you serious when you name the CnC Club as an argument? ^^



For Manga clearly Gantz must(!) be involved, and Berserk, Liar Game and Eden: It's an endless World.



And Bebop must be on the list. From my favorite animes I believe Bebop and LOGH to be the only ones that are ultimately and objectively great. All other series are a matter of taste and if I give them a 8,9 or 10 is mostly preference, but those two series really ARE 10's :P.
/fanboymode

Fine I will let Baccano to be on the list even though i hate it. I will take your word with Kino

For CnC...unfortunately yes

Oh, and Mobile Suit Gundam. Whether we like it or not, at least any elitist worth his salt respect it for being so iconic and influential.
Plus everyone loves Char (I can't hear you, CCA never happened LALALA) and ACGUY.

I'll give you the influence part, but besides that I wasn't impressed with Mobile Suit Gundam. Char was okay though, as were some of the episodes. But for someone like me who doesn't like mecha, and especially mecha fights, it wasn't too enjoyable. But we could include it, I won't object.

I'm just glad someone pointed out Master Keaton, highly underrated title.

Especially Underwatched too!

It's a shame that no one has mentioned Utena yet :\

It's because I haven't seen it yet

Let's just save us all the embarrassment and pretend I did.

Well I loathe it, but it's competently made in everything but story.

Sato Dai is weird, I don't get how he can write shite like Ergo Proxy and Bebop and then, suddenly, SAC. I guess with good material to adapt he has the sense to avoid injecting any of his own tripe ideas.


Berserk is the Rocky Horror Picture Show of manga. It's fun because it's cheesy and crazy. It's not actually good except a few volumes between Golden Arc and now, and the art.

20th Century Boys is a string of cool ideas which sadly do not have any connexions. It does not have the coherency of Monster or the same fun issues to ponder. All it has is GUUUTALALA SUUDALALA and frustrating fucking around with the audience. (I don't care who Friend is, for no matter who he'd turn out to be, it'd be uninteresting and not change anything. That turned out to be the point, but if it was, why not show us instead of those forty fucking pointless cliffhangers which did not actually leave you at the cliff hanging, but pointed at the cliff and said, "if we'd be closer we could be hanging off that now!")

I still watched the movies like thrice, I have no idea why.

I submit Hiroki Endo's short stories, The World Is Mine and Witches as actual elitist manga.

Anything by Naoki Urasawa basically.

The 20th Century Boys movies were a strange experience for me. I bought them all, the first one twice and adored them. Hell, I even have a movie poster above my monitor. But at the same time I think they're terrible. My normalfag friends love them though. They started reading the manga and everything, though they won't try anything else.

Paprika, Jin Roh, Grave of the Fireflies, Haibane Renmei, Serial Experiments Lain and Planetes are pretty high rated too.

Some newer stuff that I enjoyed were Sora No Woto, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 and Eden of the East but I don't think they're as universally regarded as great.

@Kaiserpingvin: Bebop wasn't supposed to have a storyline, it's the same as criticizing Mushishi for no coherent story ^^.

I definitely agree on Hiroki Endo's short stories. Great literature.


@alicedragon:

Eden of the East was pretty nice, but the movies completely ruined it and as the movies were planned from the beginning I can't help but see the show in a different, worse light than before :/

Most of the others I find to be good, but not that exceptional (except Planetes), but I wouldnt mind adding them. Though I think from Satoshi Kons movies Paprika is not the best.

@alicedragon

I disagree, I am still trying to finish Pluto...

how about we make a list, maybe set up some rules and vote on it? Sounds a bit gay but its going to be fun...?