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Guardian978 said: I thought it seemed a bit odd, in the convenience store, that he knows so little about his coworker that he never even realized the dude wasn't married. Do they talk at all when they're on duty or do they just stare at the far wall? They actually did talk about that in a previous episode. His coworker said he had to work a late night shift at a convenience store because he had to care for his wife and kids. Kimimaro felt respect for the old guy because he was working for someone else, while Kimimaro was simply saving up money for himself. It's probable that his coworker went bankrupt in the Financial District and have his whole family disappear from him, or maybe one of his family members did. |
akitoes said: So that's it. Thanks man! I wonder also if giving to Q the money to eat calms her down. Hmmmmm anyone?Orca said: When Mikuni uses White Knight, both the pink demon girl and Q are summoned Apparently Q starts going berserk the second she is summoned and only the pink girl can restrain her, which is why Mikuni asks pink girl to hurry upNice fight by Mikuni but I don't really get Q's power. Is she controlling the other girl? |
| How many stocks did he need to buy to control the asset? All of them? |
'Everything is impossible until proven possible.' - Me |
| That old geezer's voice is fucking amazing. |
SoundlessSky said: Jesus, I want to see Macroflation now. PAC-MAN Defense and White Knight are Macroflations, I think EDIT : Summons Mikuni's other 2 assets |
akitoesMay 6, 2011 1:48 PM
| Best episode so far.... I also thought the teacher was about to run infront of the train at the one part... Insane to think his kids were sacrificed... Mikuni = hawt! |
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| Q and that pink asset reminded me a little of Beauty and the Beast with the way that they called Q Beauty. Mm, guess we'll have to wait to find out more about that. |
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SoundlessSky said: I think he was the same guy who got pwned by Mikuni during episode 1. Naturally, when you go bankrupt, you can't see Midas money anymore x.x Nope, that guy committed suicide by jumping in front of a train IIRC |
| Props to them. Not all anime nowadays can pair great action and psychological scenes that aren't complete bullshit in the same episode. They did it. Mashu still needs a hug. |
"Tonight, I sit in the eye of the storm. As fire boils around me, I press forward, winds and lightning lashing my wings. I am no match for what I face. Yet I will not back down, and though fear may place it's stranglehold on my heart, courage will see me through. With tears in my eyes, I hit full throttle. My engines become an inferno, and my weapons light up, awaiting my command. If I die tonight, I will do so fighting for everything I believe in."  |
| Wow. I wonder if those kids hang around as ghost-things like that, or if it was just an effect to help show the gravity of his loss... |
| Dear Math, I'm not a therapist. Solve your own problems. Oh, and Algebra? Stop asking us to find your ex, she's NEVER coming back. |
| Wow, who knew that losing a lot can cost you your future. This series pretty showed a good amount of action, but things did get dark. |
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akitoes said: I don't agree. Summons are summons. Attacks are attacks. They are saving macroflation for some amazing battle time spot. Can't wait for that one.SoundlessSky said: Jesus, I want to see Macroflation now. PAC-MAN Defense and White Knight are Macroflations, I think EDIT : Summons Mikuni's other 2 assets |
aznkirby890 said: Agree but the one pawned by Kimimaro, the one with the iron balls may have had his kid die by having the wife kill it. Since that guy was fighting for them and in the end he cared about his own life thus what he cared for got taken from him.SoundlessSky said: Nope, that guy committed suicide by jumping in front of a train IIRCI think he was the same guy who got pwned by Mikuni during episode 1. Naturally, when you go bankrupt, you can't see Midas money anymore x.x physics223 said: You all need to give respect to this guy! I can verify with my vast knowledge that it is all good! It does teach a lot in this series. Last time I remember Ef had references with Tarots with Yuuko. Here are my thoughts regarding the episode. The tarot symbols are undeniably related to the series itself. |
Yumekichi11May 6, 2011 11:50 PM
| It was sort of exciting as an action anime. But the settings of the world are ambiguous yet. I don’t want unlimited inflation of offense and defense abilities. The rules of games should be clear and consistent. According to the official site, the asset Mikuni summoned with flation “white knight” is named Aurore (spelling unknown). Aurore is his third asset and her flation is “sleeping beauty” that squeezes and nullifies the ability from the opponent. Usually Aurore takes Q’s hand and keeps her dormant so that she doesn’t go berserk and release her mighty power. In the show, Aurore was called “hime (princess)” Although economic terms appear a lot in this show, they don’t have much relevance practically. If you want economic games, try “Spice and Wolf”. |
physics223 said: The episode was brilliant. Not only did it establish the tarot symbols as something not mere coincidence, it also gave more gravitas as regards the title of the series itself. Here are my thoughts regarding the episode. The tarot symbols are undeniably related to the series itself. So much is at stake with being bankrupt. I'm glad the professor was a bro to Kimimaro. While we're at it talking about figurative symbols and such, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the appearance of the sephirot yet. It's been seen a few times already through the show.  In this scene, Msyu told Kimimaro to sell her stocks and the most bottom symbol on the sephirot brightened. From what I've read on wiki, the most bottom symbol is Malchut, which is "kingdom" or "kingship" and whatnot. I'm going to leave it at that and let all the other philosophers go deal with it. I dislike reading too much into things thinking it has some deep meaning and then end up having my brain run circles around itself and getting frustrated at the lack of a concrete logical answer. |
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| Mikuni is ridiculously strong, Yoga is gonna have to win a lot of battle to match him ! |
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Wasabi said: Interesting remark Wasabi, I did not notice it is that diagram at first. Only thing I see making sense of that is selling part of the foundations of a asset is like thinking the asset is one's kingdom and that is like one's future representation. Selling stocks of that is like a bailout in when you are losing lots of money in a deal. So yeah it does make sense but I would check out the one made for hell, there variations of that diagram and I don't see the heaven's version holding much meaning in hell itself.physics223 said: The episode was brilliant. Not only did it establish the tarot symbols as something not mere coincidence, it also gave more gravitas as regards the title of the series itself. Here are my thoughts regarding the episode. The tarot symbols are undeniably related to the series itself. So much is at stake with being bankrupt. I'm glad the professor was a bro to Kimimaro. While we're at it talking about figurative symbols and such, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the appearance of the sephirot yet. It's been seen a few times already through the show. In this scene, Msyu told Kimimaro to sell her stocks and the most bottom symbol on the sephirot brightened. From what I've read on wiki, the most bottom symbol is Malchut, which is "kingdom" or "kingship" and whatnot. I'm going to leave it at that and let all the other philosophers go deal with it. I dislike reading too much into things thinking it has some deep meaning and then end up having my brain run circles around itself and getting frustrated at the lack of a concrete logical answer. BTW: I also like philosophy. |
| Mikuni lost all my respect , sigh what is bad about crushing others. |
| it feels like they were rushing this episode. |
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| Pretty decent episode ;D this anime getting more interesting form episode to episode ;] is Mikuni really fight to keep balance!? hmm ;] |
| lightness vs. darkness Nani mo kamo wo hoshigatteita Mayoeru mono no chikai Mada miru sekai o tsukuridasu koto Kuchi hateteiku |
| finally a good episode .. i think this show is getting better & better :3 |
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sirwence said: I pegged this to go darker, its not meant to be light or comical. This episode partially answered a question... But then it created many more questions. How did that family get erased for example, how can they make her suddenly 'not pregnant' Yeah wtf? They can completely change reality? So who is behind Midas bank? God? Seeing as Mikuni had more than one asset and hearing that someone can invest in someones else asset it makes me think that you can buy out the asset of someone else. The fight at the end, although quite entertaining it's something i can't appreciate because well... There is no logic in this fights. They tried to combine Yu-ki-oh fights with financial trading and it just doesn't work together good enough to make sense. The whole thing seems slightly idiotic to be completely honest. |
| Mikuni is a pretty cool dude. |
sirwence said: I pegged this to go darker, its not meant to be light or comical. This episode partially answered a question... But then it created many more questions. How did that family get erased for example, how can they make her suddenly 'not pregnant' because it seemed like Yoga could see the children. I do wonder if well get a system breaker type of a protagonist after all. I wonder what role Ikuta will play I doubt it's a system breaker type, but rather because he was involved with the financial district and KNEW that his prof had kids, that he was able to remember them. jacobpaige said: I can't really trust Mikuni, after all, he didn't hold back at all against the loser in the first episode. If he really believed in minimal gains/losses then he could have spared the guy without much difficulty. I'm just curious about his real objective and what will happen to turn the MC against him. That's exactly because that guy is a loser. If you were someone with plenty of wealth like the old man in this ep, you'll create a lot of changes in the real world if you go bankrupt. Corporations could cease to exist, governments could collapse -- etc etc. |
SigsigMay 7, 2011 1:25 PM
| オタクなんじゃねぃよ I'm not an otaku. |
| This very much was my favorite episode so far for this series. There was plenty of action to be had, though Yoga's fight was much sloppier than Mikuni's. And I really took to heart the consequences of Yoga's second match. When they say "future" in their contract they really mean it. So winning too big can be a bad thing, as Scorched Earth demonstrated. This Starling Guild sounds like a nice noble idea as well. I wonder how it's gonna fall apart. Sorry, but those things always run into trouble.  |
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| So it's possible to marginally win, that's pretty interesting. So essentially by having minute shifting amounts of future, it's possibly that no one is worst off and actually maintain status quo? I wonder if rigged matches are allowed. In that both parties agree just poke each other in the eye and win $1. lol! |
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| noice, i don't really understand this anime and its logics still, like how can Mikuni have more people that he fights with? |
Onyxthegreat said: jix said: Yes this is exactly what I thought too.SoundlessSky said: I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc). looks like you hit the jackpot Am I the only one who thinks this is not possible? Some other players lose and go bankrupt even though they are still newbies. Meaning they haven't used or barely used the money they got on the financial district. So how could they lose their future when they go bankrupt wasting little to no money at all? I think the consequences in their future has something to do with something they were supposed to have in the future, but they won't have it if they go bankrupt. Also, they will lose as well the things they used the money for. To put it simply, the teacher was supposed to have 3 children even without the money he earned from the district. Now that the future is gone, the children he was supposed to have was taken from him and he will probably have no chance to raise a child ever again. |
-QuasarMay 8, 2011 4:37 AM
| i don't really get what he did, but mikuni effing owns~ yeah that came to my mind too...that yoga's dad lost his mom after he became bankrupt but we shall see! on an unrelated note: this anime reminds me a lot of gankutsuou for some reason O: has a similar feel to it... |
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| Awesome episode. |
-Quasar said: Onyxthegreat said: jix said: Yes this is exactly what I thought too.SoundlessSky said: I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc). looks like you hit the jackpot Am I the only one who thinks this is not possible? Some other players lose and go bankrupt even though they are still newbies. Meaning they haven't used or barely used the money they got on the financial district. So how could they lose their future when they go bankrupt wasting little to no money at all? I think the consequences in their future has something to do with something they were supposed to have in the future, but they won't have it if they go bankrupt. Also, they will lose as well the things they used the money for. To put it simply, the teacher was supposed to have 3 children even without the money he earned from the district. Now that the future is gone, the children he was supposed to have was taken from him and he will probably have no chance to raise a child ever again. this is posibly right , the man at first ep says that it was his first fight , yet he suicide after losing... but maybe he had another reason to suicide... |
KumaAyr23 said: Concerning the question about what Yogas father lost I am thinking it could be his wife, since it is also mentioned she disappeared. However how in the world Yoga could continue to exist might be a bit of a puzzle I can't explain. I hope at least we will get an answer on that later in the story. I also hope they will make Hanabi Yogas goal of the future - meaning she will be the one he will lose if he goes bankrupt. well... after all you could say that the district DID take yoga for them... |
| Quite good, I'd say. The episode, I mean - as the series still doesn't show much bases on rather clichéd flags... still, the plot is getting constantly better, so I wager that if the pattern continues, it will prove to be a good show. |
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cardinal4 said: I wonder if rigged matches are allowed. In that both parties agree just poke each other in the eye and win $1. lol! I speculate Mikuni's organization is about this. Kimimaro's teacher said "If you join the guild, you won't win a lot, but you can't go bankrupt either." |
| Feel bad for the professor. D: |
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| Msyu said you can sell 9/10 stocks, so that means you still own your asset with 10% of the stocks? Sounds strange to me. |
| A stock is not an asset nor part of an asset. It's part of the equity. So if the buyers buy your stocks, they became investors and in their viewpoint your stocks is their investment in you which will give them interest if you win in the deal. You still own your asset 100% and not 10%. I hope my accounting memory is serving me right. :D |
| come on mashu , yoga...show us other epic powers !! xD |
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| I'm loving this series so far. The MC can get annoying at times though but it's still good. So many questions I want answered though I guess there is no choice but to wait... |
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