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May 5, 2011 11:43 PM

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The old guy reminded me of a tengu.
May 5, 2011 11:58 PM

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Mikuni's fight was awesome.

So the future as a collateral has actually much darker meaning.

A father loosing his 3 children is just painful yet he accepted it. What a great guy.
May 6, 2011 12:05 AM

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All these sudden asspull supermoves are kind of enjoyable by now.
Oh well, not much more to say on this, really.
Edit: I totally forgot mentioning the absolutely horrendous CGI since Masakaki is kind of cool, despite looking awful.
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May 6, 2011 12:49 AM
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I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc).
May 6, 2011 1:04 AM

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SoundlessSky said:
I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc).


That theory actually seems really plausible.
May 6, 2011 1:13 AM

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Mikuni seems pretty cool and straightforward ... but there's something about him that's not right and I'm still thinking he's going to be an enemy. sucks for that teacher.... seeing his kids just disappear but at least he still has his wife right?
May 6, 2011 1:34 AM

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SoundlessSky said:
I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc).


this have sense
May 6, 2011 1:44 AM
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А cool episode, I expected the teacher to try something, as well, him being that calm made it cooler, though...:)
May 6, 2011 2:02 AM

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Oh boy! I hope this doesn't get annoying with the saving-the-enemy bs. He could be like Mikuni though but he has a long way to go.

I thought the consequence when his teacher got bankrupt would be more severe than that, like the person would be on a brink of death or something. But It's still painful though, losing his children.
May 6, 2011 2:17 AM

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This is not a Noitamina show!

That's just Yu-gi-oh again.

You just play a silly game with summoned creatures to win or lose. Oh wow. And the rules of course make no sense and have no actual connection to the main point of the show...

which i though it was MONEY.

Money and not some silly pokemon battles with english technobabble about going bankrupt and "you have gain" etc.

What a cheat! This show was supposed to be MUCH MORE than a fighting anime.

Why is it even Noitamina i wonder?
May 6, 2011 2:31 AM
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Absolutely loved how quickly Masakaki banned the teacher from the district after he went bankrupt.
May 6, 2011 2:32 AM

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SoundlessSky said:
I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc).


looks like you hit the jackpot
May 6, 2011 2:37 AM

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no money no future
borrow a money no future

i really enjoyed this episode.
May 6, 2011 3:21 AM

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Mezzoflation. Scorched Earth. You have gain.
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May 6, 2011 4:15 AM

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Good thing the teacher didn't get angry to Kimimaro, if he did, I moght get mad..

and also, I am confused about the buying of stocks and how minimizing the loss in the real world.. how does it happen? I am confused of how the deal works..O.o
May 6, 2011 4:45 AM

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Very interesting episode. The talk between the teacher and Kimimaro cleared up a lot. Only thing he has to do is just not lose right? Sounds simple enough! =P

Hopefully Mashu will warm up to Kimimaro some more and understand more about how he feels and what he wants to do. Looking forward to some of his fights!

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SoundlessSky said:
I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc).


looks like you hit the jackpot
Yes this is exactly what I thought too.

May 6, 2011 6:25 AM

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The opening sequence with the random love interest (I don't even know her name, she's so poorly fleshed out) fawning over the pregnant lady was boring, and if they had to run it they shouldn't have broken up the initial fight with her boring-ass oohing and aahing. The teacher's family disappearing doesn't seem like that bad of a thing to me, since they couldn't afford to have all those damn kids anyway. Because of his stupid wife's baby rabies he had to gamble his soul in the Financial District and he lost. Better that they never had their family to begin with than he kills himself like the main character's dad and leaves a bunch of orphans and a widow that can't manage money.

I thought it seemed a bit odd, in the convenience store, that he knows so little about his coworker that he never even realized the dude wasn't married. Do they talk at all when they're on duty or do they just stare at the far wall?

The fights are pretty killer, though I can't pretend I understand the rules of these matchups. So the guys battling are trying to steal one another's money, and this takes the form of summoned monsters like Dog-Mask and Q? But every Entre seems to have only one main 'Asset' that talks to him, we never see Dog-Mask's comments on things like we do Q and Msyu.

Some annoying bits, and I wish the rules of the fights were better explained, but we at least found out some new things ('Bankruptcies' change reality, the bad guy's organization, etc) and there was some sweet action with Mikune v Old Guy. 4/5
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This series reminds me a lot of the manga 'Popcorn Avatar' for some reason?

The story revolving the teacher was quite sad; the only plus is the fact that his wife is unaware of what occured.

May 6, 2011 6:45 AM

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It really turned out to be very dark and mysterious.I would never expect the District to have that much power and to be able to change the future.How is it even possible to make his kids disappear,erase any memories of them but let the father know the terrible truth.It must be awful to know that you can cause such tragedy just by losing a fight..

Mikuni's fight was fu***ng awesome.The series is great so far.I really enjoy watching it!!
May 6, 2011 7:23 AM

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yellowbuds said:
Good thing the teacher didn't get angry to Kimimaro, if he did, I moght get mad..

and also, I am confused about the buying of stocks and how minimizing the loss in the real world.. how does it happen? I am confused of how the deal works..O.o


Here's a thread to those who want to know about this deal and the rules in the financial district.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=294556
May 6, 2011 7:42 AM

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SoundlessSky said:
I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc).


That's what I figured. You invest the Midas Money into your future (in the teacher's case, his children) so it's your 'investment' that's taken away when you go bankrupt. A very dark take indeed, which really helps make this show a lot more interesting.
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May 6, 2011 8:12 AM

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Pretty good episode, Kimimaro one-shotting everyone in sight still makes me cringe though.

SoundlessSky's theory seems true - I wonder what Kimimaro's father spent black money on...
May 6, 2011 9:29 AM

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nice episode, really loved it.

The fight scene was great, it reminded me of Haku's mirror technique (From naruto) veruses a some what Garaa's defense (as he stood around geting protection) was truly epic =)
May 6, 2011 9:43 AM

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I didn't expect the teacher's kids to disappear just like that.

Nice fight by Mikuni but I don't really get Q's power. Is she controlling the other girl?
May 6, 2011 9:58 AM

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DoctorDoom said:
SoundlessSky said:
I think when you go bankrupt, everything you've done that's influenced by the Black Money simply revert (the teacher do Deals to raise his kids iirc).


That's what I figured. You invest the Midas Money into your future (in the teacher's case, his children) so it's your 'investment' that's taken away when you go bankrupt. A very dark take indeed, which really helps make this show a lot more interesting.


This actually makes a lot of sense...
It seems as though the wife really liked children, more so then her husband; childless and moneyless, she seems quite content too, therefore it's possible, with the cash injection, they may have went threw fertility treatment; something that costs a fortune.

May 6, 2011 10:27 AM
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OK. After 4/5 episodes into this new season, it seems absolutely clear that C is the best new anime of this spring. This episode was fantastic once again, especially in terms of character and themes development, plus the production value is probably the highest out of all the shows released lately. Nakamura outdid himself once again.

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May 6, 2011 10:50 AM

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Finally caught on to comment a little. 2 best parts of this episode and one fucked up part is worth mentioning. Of the 2 best parts the first fight Kimimaro VS Ebara was terrific with the following,

Scorch Earth, which is a military term found here I can never get enough of how insane it is and the fight in the spoiler
was not so bad with blow exchanges although I hope it becomes more fluid in the BD/DVD versions. That poison pill attack was rather nasty and painful on Kimimaro. What got interesting is how Mashu transforms when being sold as a stock and thank God Mikuni offered to buy it for 50 000 000! Then of course there is burn baby burn! You got scorched Ebara and also bankrupt!

Second best part is Mikuni's fight with Kikuchi. Hurste is quite the insane asset with the ability it gives out to Kikuchi that of PACMAN defense. However the last move in the following,

was kick ass. Beautiful slash! This is also where we get confirmed that Mikuni has 3 assets: White Knight whom from the looks of this has some absorption power, Kakazuzu and Q who is the first asset of Mikuni. This means that it is possible to buy out completely the asset of someone thus all 10 stocks of that asset. Interesting enough! :D Another interesting thing about Q in the spoiler
is that from the face she makes she wants to be more than a asset to Mikuni, maybe be loved or close family? Anyone else get the impression how she changes faces. Another interesting thing is that assets have maintenance fee.

About fucked up part, well not really considering you are in the devil's realm. With the way the kids and the wife pregnant and not pregnant shown in the spoiler
notice the kids are in a dark shadow. To me it means they were sacrificed as a compensation to the Devil and that my friends is called IRL a human sacrificial ceremony when you study the occult you might know more. It really is more sick than it appears. It is even possible that his wife is sterile. The devil is a sick monster and this shows it more than before. Suicide is probably the only other way if you do not want to have your family harmed but IMO I think the price to pay is what you fight for when doing deals. The highest value gets taken away whatever it may be as collateral for future.

I do hope Hanabi's boyfriend gets defeated by Kimimaro because I have some gut feeling he is also part of the district. I was thinking it was him in the beginning of this episode. Anyone know that web site to see the previews can PM me. Thanks. OP is kick ass! Makes me want to make money! Stocks baby!

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May 6, 2011 11:52 AM

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Was it me, or animation was better than ever in this episode? Or maybe i got used to crappy one. One way or another, this was a good episode. i
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May 6, 2011 11:56 AM

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Orca said:

Nice fight by Mikuni but I don't really get Q's power. Is she controlling the other girl?

When Mikuni uses White Knight, both the pink demon girl and Q are summoned
Apparently Q starts going berserk the second she is summoned and only the pink girl can restrain her, which is why Mikuni asks pink girl to hurry up
May 6, 2011 12:04 PM

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So, the Financial District is so powerful that it can alter a person's life in real time? Wow! That poor teacher. It's like his children were ghosts in his home.

Masakaki's screen time is always awesome!!
May 6, 2011 12:12 PM

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I thought it seemed a bit odd, in the convenience store, that he knows so little about his coworker that he never even realized the dude wasn't married. Do they talk at all when they're on duty or do they just stare at the far wall?


They actually did talk about that in a previous episode. His coworker said he had to work a late night shift at a convenience store because he had to care for his wife and kids. Kimimaro felt respect for the old guy because he was working for someone else, while Kimimaro was simply saving up money for himself. It's probable that his coworker went bankrupt in the Financial District and have his whole family disappear from him, or maybe one of his family members did.
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akitoes said:
Orca said:

Nice fight by Mikuni but I don't really get Q's power. Is she controlling the other girl?
When Mikuni uses White Knight, both the pink demon girl and Q are summoned Apparently Q starts going berserk the second she is summoned and only the pink girl can restrain her, which is why Mikuni asks pink girl to hurry up
So that's it. Thanks man! I wonder also if giving to Q the money to eat calms her down. Hmmmmm anyone?

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May 6, 2011 12:20 PM

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How many stocks did he need to buy to control the asset? All of them?
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May 6, 2011 12:31 PM

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How many stocks did he need to buy to control the asset? All of them?
Yeah for sure he needs to buy all of them and perhaps wait until the person goes bankrupt.

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May 6, 2011 12:55 PM

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That old geezer's voice is fucking amazing.
May 6, 2011 1:33 PM
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Jesus, I want to see Macroflation now.
May 6, 2011 1:40 PM

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Jesus, I want to see Macroflation now.

PAC-MAN Defense and White Knight are Macroflations, I think
EDIT : Summons Mikuni's other 2 assets
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Just what exactly did White Knight did, though? ._.
May 6, 2011 1:51 PM
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This is so interesting now! All the factors that play in winning or losing a fight give it such a strategic feeling (even though I still don't understand how all of it works) and the action scenes in this episode was actually quite good. The stocks thing is also pretty interesting.

Also, this one gave off even more of a dark feeling with the teacher's kids disappearing... (And probably the family of that guy who works in the convenience store as well? He did say he was working for his family on a previous episode but he also didn't seem to see the Midas Money when Kimimaro was trying not to give it as exchange to a costumer...)

So, Mikuni is actually trying to maintain the balance between the Financial District and the real world economy by trying to win or lose by a small margin which would make a smaller impact in the real world. That's why he's creating the Starling Guild I suppose. But I do wonder where does his interest in Yoga come from... Is it just because he was the only on (besides himself) to be forced into the Financial District and win his first match? I don't think so. There has to be more to it. Well, all I can do now is wait for next week.
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This is so interesting now! All the factors that play in winning or losing a fight give it such a strategic feeling (even though I still don't understand how all of it works) and the action scenes in this episode was actually quite good. The stocks thing is also pretty interesting.

Also, this one gave off even more of a dark feeling with the teacher's kids disappearing... (And probably the family of that guy who works in the convenience store as well? He did say he was working for his family on a previous episode but he also didn't seem to see the Midas Money when Kimimaro was trying not to give it as exchange to a costumer...)

So, Mikuni is actually trying to maintain the balance between the Financial District and the real world economy by trying to win or lose by a small margin which would make a smaller impact in the real world. That's why he's creating the Starling Guild I suppose. But I do wonder where does his interest in Yoga come from... Is it just because he was the only on (besides himself) to be forced into the Financial District and win his first match? I don't think so. There has to be more to it. Well, all I can do now is wait for next week.


I think he was the same guy who got pwned by Mikuni during episode 1. Naturally, when you go bankrupt, you can't see Midas money anymore x.x
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Best episode so far.... I also thought the teacher was about to run infront of the train at the one part...

Insane to think his kids were sacrificed...

Mikuni = hawt!
May 6, 2011 4:02 PM

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Q and that pink asset reminded me a little of Beauty and the Beast with the way that they called Q Beauty. Mm, guess we'll have to wait to find out more about that.
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I think he was the same guy who got pwned by Mikuni during episode 1. Naturally, when you go bankrupt, you can't see Midas money anymore x.x


Nope, that guy committed suicide by jumping in front of a train IIRC
May 6, 2011 5:37 PM

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Props to them. Not all anime nowadays can pair great action and psychological scenes that aren't complete bullshit in the same episode. They did it.

Mashu still needs a hug.
"Tonight, I sit in the eye of the storm. As fire boils around me, I press forward, winds and lightning lashing my wings. I am no match for what I face. Yet I will not back down, and though fear may place it's stranglehold on my heart, courage will see me through. With tears in my eyes, I hit full throttle. My engines become an inferno, and my weapons light up, awaiting my command.

If I die tonight, I will do so fighting for everything I believe in."


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Wow. I wonder if those kids hang around as ghost-things like that, or if it was just an effect to help show the gravity of his loss...
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Wow, who knew that losing a lot can cost you your future.
This series pretty showed a good amount of action, but things did get dark.


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Jesus, I want to see Macroflation now.

PAC-MAN Defense and White Knight are Macroflations, I think
EDIT : Summons Mikuni's other 2 assets
I don't agree. Summons are summons. Attacks are attacks. They are saving macroflation for some amazing battle time spot. Can't wait for that one.

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May 6, 2011 11:43 PM
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The episode was brilliant. Not only did it establish the tarot symbols as something not mere coincidence, it also gave more gravitas as regards the title of the series itself.

Here are my thoughts regarding the episode. The tarot symbols are undeniably related to the series itself.

So much is at stake with being bankrupt. I'm glad the professor was a bro to Kimimaro.
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I think he was the same guy who got pwned by Mikuni during episode 1. Naturally, when you go bankrupt, you can't see Midas money anymore x.x
Nope, that guy committed suicide by jumping in front of a train IIRC
Agree but the one pawned by Kimimaro, the one with the iron balls may have had his kid die by having the wife kill it. Since that guy was fighting for them and in the end he cared about his own life thus what he cared for got taken from him.
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Here are my thoughts regarding the episode. The tarot symbols are undeniably related to the series itself.
You all need to give respect to this guy! I can verify with my vast knowledge that it is all good! It does teach a lot in this series. Last time I remember Ef had references with Tarots with Yuuko.
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aznkirby890 said:
SoundlessSky said:
I think he was the same guy who got pwned by Mikuni during episode 1. Naturally, when you go bankrupt, you can't see Midas money anymore x.x
Nope, that guy committed suicide by jumping in front of a train IIRC
Agree but the one pawned by Kimimaro, the one with the iron balls may have had his kid die by having the wife kill it. Since that guy was fighting for them and in the end he cared about his own life thus what he cared for got taken from him.
physics223 said:
Here are my thoughts regarding the episode. The tarot symbols are undeniably related to the series itself.
You all need to give respect to this guy! I can verify with my vast knowledge that it is all good! It does teach a lot in this series. Last time I remember Ef had references with Tarots with Yuuko.


._. I don't recall Ef having any other references other than nice boat lmao. Please do elaborate, well, if you would so kindly to pm x.x since it would be off-topic here.
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