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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Yup, life can be so cruel and this movie is a fine example of that. |
| I'm really really sad... Midori is just a normal little girl, she wants to be happy, she likes something cute, she wants to be a rich celebrity... but instead, life just too cruel to her :( she had a chance to be an actress but her husband want to keep her exclusively for him... and it breaks my heart when at the end.. when Midori finally choose to live happily ever after with her husband, her husband died without she knowing it and that makes she feel abandoned... she think he left her.... i just cant take it!! this is really really really sad... :( this is one of the greatest anime i have ever seen, hope more things like this produced, i hate how the anime industry have become now, the anime won't sell if there is no moe factor... so tragic.. |
MaxCrazy7 said: Yup, life can be so cruel and this movie is a fine example of that. Pretty much my same thoughts. |
| Watching some classics like these when you rarely see anything of the sort in these last 10 years is always refreshing. Shit can be messed up, and the director did a wonderful job with this. The animation fits really well, but I understand that some found it to be a turn off: lack of open-mindedness/willing to experiment, thus always expecting the easiest things to watch I'spose. Their choice. Not for those that can't tackle, even though they are spread out and short as hell, more disturbing scenes. fujifruit said: The author tries so hard to be disturbing and I just end up laughing. TBH this is not a good title to rant about 'trying too hard' (simply my opinion). The gore is very limited and so are any other disturbing scenes (overall it tries to tackle psychology more than simply senseless visual shock-value). The dog scene for example lasts less than 5 seconds, and the point of the scene is more about what it means: the other circus members are walking on Midori and want to make her suffer for no real reason. Just for being new, 'normal' compared to them, etc. She's a victim, so her attempts at finding comforting moments (spending time with dogs) get walked on (hurr pun). Just like Assiman said, I was expecting moments of senseless gore from the comments I've read for this, but really I was surprised that it was everytime well dosed and with point. The non-gore disturbing parts are just 'yeah reality can be fucked up', but if that's too much for people: don't even bother tackling real seinen (precising, real means truly targeting more mature audience that can think; too many shows are considered seinen for stupid reasons, more-so nowadays than before), but it's surprising they'd actually discover this movie. Anyway, "trying too hard" works for things such as Ccube, Higu, Elfen Lied, etc, where it lasts as long as possible with no real meaning to it besides to get softer audiences to think "omg this is so shocking" and thus get more 'publicity'. I don't hate on those as the latter 2 (havent watched a lot of Ccube) have their good points (mainly OST-wise, or lolis in higu), they just went overboard for attention. Not judging your tastes, just saying you might have not thought of it at all here and were convinced it was pointless right away. Great movie, Suehiro Maruo knew his stuff and so did the director. He wouldn't have spent 5 years working on this on his own if it was just to be exaggerated. |
HakoriaMay 15, 2012 2:43 PM
「Godspeed You! Black Emperor」 |
| Midori was at times disturbing, depressing and shocking, but it is also one of the most beautiful anime I have ever seen. Some scenes were truly enthralling, and it's a thought provoking work. It's a shame the original footage was destroyed, and that an anime with so much work put into it by just one man hasn't been very well acknowledged. More people need to watch this |
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| I don't know what I just watched, but I do know I'll never watch it again. Sent with Mal Updater |
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| mixed opinions on this, it was hard to watch but wtf at the end she says goodbye to the people who not only kept her like a prissoner but beated an raped her as well, an she even teels her midget husband that she hopes she will se them again? the final scene was to be expected, for some reason all these f*cked up movies always have a calm an relaxing song during the end credits |
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| THis sure was something else! Quite interesting yet disturbing but well all in all it wasn't too bad nor was it all too good. Got mixed feelings about this but well it was fairly okay. |
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| I do not see any big reason this film exists. It only shows an optimistic girl in an inhuman environment, and that's it. I know that her optimism is commendable, but at the end of the movie I thought: What this movie taught me? What message he passed? It's a movie made just to shock. I repent me of having watched this crap. I had the same impression with the manga. Changing topics Has something very strange about the mother of Midori death. I may be exaggerating but maybe the dwarf is her killer. Maybe he already knew Midori, and has made an agreement with the man who suggested she try the circus ...? I dont know. And there's something very strange about this dwarf. Perhaps he was the devil? The devil could have done something so sinister as a dead woman have rotted in so little time. And he looks a lot like the devil: goatee devilish look, raised eyebrows, and on top is a pedophile. And the ending just makes me come to this conclusion: Midori went crazy. Has several scenes in the film to suggest that she was going crazy. What do you think? |
Gen2K_ said: Rating system needs a special "WTF" option just for this movie. |
| One word: impressive. I'm glad this movie exists and was recorded then subtitled, I needed to watch something like this today. |
| This was a pretty unique watch as far as anime goes. The only thing I can remotely compare to it is Todd Browning's Freaks: It doesn't surprise me to learn that the director had to write, direct and animate this by himself. It's a pretty hard sell to any studio. The paper play style was pretty fitting I thought. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| It was whatever. Not insanely crazy like everyone said it is. Honestly, child abuse is a pretty common topic in today's films and media so I didn't find it really that "shocking" to see like everyone else did, maybe when it first came out I would have thought a little differently. If you thought this movie was fucked up in that regard I DARE you to watch "A Serbian Film". As for the gore parts, the dog scene was basically the same as Elfen Lied except this actually showed it. The most fucked up part by far was the part where the guy makes fun of the midget and he makes them all "twisted". The audio was low budget as to be expected. I didn't think the voice actors were thhhhat bad like everyone claims they are, I am more curious how he got them to work for him on this. My biggest gripe was the ending of the movie.Like silversaint said why the fuck does everyone get all uguu and say their farewells and Midori actually wants to see them again..???? What? I also completely did not understand the very end after the midget is killed and then they all pop up again and she goes insane. If someone has an explanation for it then please tell me. |
| Nice ending song. |
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| Well... this was macabre. Kinda liked it though. Will have to watch again eventually |
| I heard this was the heavies movie ever, The movie that started all the gory and twisted scenes and they didn't lie. By God I was about to drop it after the first five minutes but I saw reviews rating it 10 and 8 so I wanted to see it to the end. Some didn't like the art but I find it the merit of the movie. The explicit scenes were too much. Good thing I got over traumas area. Nothing can affect me now. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| Fucking garbage, people say it's deep or whatever, when in reality, it's just disgusting things to shock the viewer. I can see why no one wanted to help the sick man behind this godawful film. Not the worst thing I've even seen, but still my least favourite movie to this day. |
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| Finally got around to giving this a rewatch. It's... grim. Like the creator just wanted to crush your spirit... raise your spirits a little bit... then thoroughly crush them again. But it's so unrelentingly strange and made with such conviction that it kinda redeems itself by being almost incomprehensibly outré, rather than being something simply exploitative. Never want to meet someone who'd make something like this though. Find it hard to describe this film so am struggling with adjectives |
CapnJack21 said: I can't decide weather or not to watch it I've heard it's fucked up but it can't be more so than Berserk Do watch it. That's some quality shit. |
| Here's an interview with the director/creator of the anime. Personally I didn't get that much out of it, but there were a couple interesting tidbits. Tbh I still have no idea what messages he's trying to convey through adapting an (light) ero-guro work like Midori. Censorship = baddy? This is real life? Dedicating 5 years for a work like this is a bit unsettling. |
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| The first part was sick/discusting. (1/10) The rest was a little more interesting... after the bottle dude arrived. 2/10 I only watched this because it kept getting recommended in "horror" anime threads... I guess it's horror, but I sure wouldn't recommend it. |
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| I thought this was an incredibly striking film. It very much shows the cruelties of life and how some are very unfortunate in the route they take. Though certain scenes were more than horrific, I think they were necessary to convey Midori's tragic childhood. Masamitsu was also, by default, the one she became attached to because he didn't bully and torture her... And there is so much wrong with him already. But that was her only hope until someone tried to hire her as an actress. Considering censorship Shoujo Tsubaki's pains to create this gives it another layer of complexity. I think there are other anime that may convey this better, but this is beyond amazing for him putting so much effort into it to produce independently. 7/10 |
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| Bro, fuck this lmaooooo. Jesus |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| It was unique, but neither really good nor insightful. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| She just wanted to become an actress after being orphaned as a child and she was given such a chance but it turns out that she had a one-way ticket to experience the worst thing any little girl could've ever gone through. If the only person you've ever loved is an esper midget who had predated over you, that says a lot about how much your life sucked. It's sad that she killed herself but there's nothing she can do to rise up from her situation after all this time. |
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| well that was something. I don't know what to think. |
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| I can see the artistic value this piece of animation has to offer, but it was really not for me. I generally tend to gravitate towards stories with conclusive, happier endings, so this "movie" (as MAL describes it) wasn't very enjoyable for me. There isn't much I wish to say about it, either. The animation was pretty bad, but I'd describe it as average when taking into account a) this came out almost three decades ago and b) it appears to have been done by just one person. I have, of course, seen better-looking movies and OVAs from this time period, such as Area 88 and Mimi wo Sumaseba, but I imagine those had better production budgets and the likes. Voice acting was awful, and the characters were really unlikeable. The only semi-relatable character was Midori. To conclude, I personally wouldn't recommend Chika Gentou Gekiga: Shoujo Tsubaki to anyone except those looking for disgusting imagery that also happens to have a decent life lesson trailing behind it. I give it the lowest 4/10 I could possibly give. |
GytanzoJun 29, 2019 7:51 PM
| I can safely say that ero-guro isn't for me. This was dreadfully bizarre and downright distasteful on every level. Any artistic merit or meaning this may have is completely lost on me. I can't see Midori as anything more than forced, grotesque macabre shock bullshit. I'm honestly rather impressed how much I disliked this. |
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| I was expecting a good art since I'm a fan of Suehiro Maruo, and it turns out fine even it was drawn by a different person. It's a shame that this is the only Suehiro Maruo work that gets adapted to anime. It was a fun experience esp. the second half. I wouldn't need to go with the pretentious comments about this film about social commentary or some shit, sure there's definitely some commentary but the form alone is very enjoyable even you don't have to think about it that much. |
| Honestly, what the hell did I even watch. |
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| this wasnt even that bad like people say it was, regarding the movie overall and the "disturbing scenes" there was barely any in the beginning and the rest of the movie was fine |
| The visuals of this really lend itself well to the horror aspect of this OVA. The story was bleak but it didn't really faze me that much (aside from the puppy scene). I really like the visual aspect of this show and the uncompromising commitment it probably took Hiroshi Harada to make something so vastly different and unique. The more anime I see, the more I appreciate vastly different things like this, especially in this bland modern anime landscape. I'm certain I'm probably overpraising the shit out of this but frankly idc 7.5-8/10 for me. Suehiro Maruo is on my radar now, might check out more of his works (if I can find any translated). |
VanishingKiraJan 2, 2022 11:36 AM
| Well, I knew what I was getting into but it still managed to surprise me. |
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| Well, to be honestly, i thought it was more gruesome like i imagined before. However, to be surprised, the movie noted up with the bizarre plot until its ending with a lot of absurd or may near to the abstract artistic style of work at their plot lines. I am saying that these show had a potential to be better, but its wasted its potential by something unexplainable like that. The end note might've indeed reveal the end of the girl story. However, since its just left out bizarre, i don't think its a satisfied ending. The horror elements were underwhelmed too while i am expecting more than that. However, the historical aspect was on point, especially with the magic and trick explanations. Its interesting me a lot. So, as an overall, this show really wasted its potential, but its not so too bad either. The storyline itself was pretty much straight-forward and on point, even though the end was obviously unsatisfying. Well, the overall point might be bias as its not taken any credit much from what i said above. So i shall be honest here that its really my personal end scores. Because, the end, really horrible. I give this 'supposed to be horror' show at my 3/10, but with an exceptional words like i said above. Thats it. |
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| Deeply underrated. It's time for people to move past viewing this only as a disturbing novelty. It's one of the most atmospheric and terrifying experiences I've ever seen animated, which is extraordinary considering Harada did almost all of the work on his own. Move past the initial shock value and try to appreciate it as a work of art. That goes doubly so for the original manga. Maruo's art is stunning and detailed, beyond just the gruesome subject matter. |
BurningFarmMar 5, 2021 8:09 AM
| That was just... boring. |
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