4Kids Files Bankruptcy

darkmar7 said:
Wow. Bankruptcy huh. So what will be going on in saturday morning programs. lol

zansabarshadow said:


no one wants to watch that shit

Zeream said:

Well, I don't know much about business, mind you, but that's 4Kids alright, giving up already. I mean, I know they lost around 30% of their profit from the loss of Yu-Gi-Oh rights, but still...

ycart59 said:
Onibokusu, you're STILL here arguing this? Jesus, I didn't know that 4Kids even had fanboys.

Onibokusu said:


What? Since when was I a 4kids fanboy? Just because I don't hate them? That's pretty messed up logic there. Forgive me for knowing a thing or two about bankruptcy.

Oh well, I'll just have to let you guys have at with things you don't understand. Just read the word 'bankrupt' and celebrate, despite that not meaning the company is dying. You're just going to be disappointed in the long run.

Leon-Gun said:
I agree that this merely means they are hiding from the lawsuit while they come up with a battle plan so yeah, this is as far away from giving up as it can be. While I agree with you on that, you can't deny you've defended 4Kid's editing and americanization over and over through this thread and the other similar ones.

Onibokusu said:

Yeah, because I don't see anything wrong with 4kids' Americanisation. It's not like they represent all licensors or anything. And besides, as other people have said in this topic about the whole rice ball thing, kids don't care. It's only you older anime fans, that don't even watch 4kids' broadcast dubs, that hate on them and complain.

Leon-Gun said:
Don't instantly assume we don't watch them. I myself grew up with pokemon and the like.

ycart59 said:
I'm rewatching dubbed Pokemon right now, I'll admit to that. But that's merely for nostalgia.

I just find it strange that you KEEP coming back to defend something like this. Most people would've given up by now, unless they just wanted to show JUST HOW MUCH more "informed" they are, even though your argument has gotten very far away from anything legal (even if it was my comments that derived it).

And you don't seem to want to inform, either, so don't bother falling back on that. You wouldn't argue so much if you were here to inform.

Onibokusu said:


Not agreeing with you != trolling.

FoxyRoxy said:
I bet everyone here who's opposed to 4Kids' "americanization" of their anime weren't even aware of it and watched their shows gleefully every weekday and Saturday morning ^_-

Lefake said:

But why are you being so excessively persistant about it. Was it necessary to argue with just about everyone who posts negative comments against them?

ycart59 said:
I just find it strange that you KEEP coming back to defend something like this. Most people would've given up by now, unless they just wanted to show JUST HOW MUCH more "informed" they are, even though your argument has gotten very far away from anything legal (even if it was my comments that derived it).

And you don't seem to want to inform, either, so don't bother falling back on that. You wouldn't argue so much if you were here to inform.

Onibokusu said:


Well, I haven't argued against 'just about everyone'. I've only argued against two or three people, and I didn't even start those arguments.



Hey, you're the one that started this whole thing. All I did was state that filing under Chapter 11 doesn't make 4kids dead, and that 4kids' anime was quite clearly edited for U.S. television. Then you came in with a question, which I sought to answer, which you then ignored (despite enquiring with me as to why I thought they replaced a rice ball with a sandwich).

If I wasn't coming across as more informed, why would you have asked me that question in the first place (despite the fact that you were 'joking')? Seems like you were just looking for a way to incite an argument, considering what the general consensus about 4kids was in this thread.

You didn't even follow up when I gave my opinion on why the rice ball was changed, you just asked 'are you still here?'

Cashdaxxx said:

@Onibokusu: I think you need to stop arguing...it's already annoying to see your forum avatar for atleast twice in every page. ROFLMAO

Redfoxoffire said:
ITT people resort to flames and petty insults because Onibokusu rained on their hate parade with actual logic. Good show.

Redfoxoffire said:
ITT people resort to flames and petty insults because Onibokusu rained on their hate parade with actual logic. Good show.

Onibokusu said:
You've never watched the uncut version of 4kids' Yu-Gi-Oh dub, have you?

That's what happens when people who don't know what 'uncut' means don't buy the DVDs, due to them discounting the release due to the 4kids logo being on it.

Well, I wouldn't expect you to know what 'irony' was anyway.

It just sounds like you're calling me a troll because you don't agree with me. Name calling isn't going to get you anywhere, especially considering name calling comes about when you've started to lose things to say.

Wow, you really think that? That's pretty sad.

Lefake said:
You have absolutely no idea how much other people have become fed up with dealing with his arguments.

Sheesh, I see no reason why he should be wasting anymore time dealing with these 4kids haters. A highly talented and rational person such as himself should just leave this topic in dignity and pride, whilst looking down upon us as we continue to enjoy posting inconstructive comments.

Onibokusu sure does have a lot of logic and is probably smarter than the rest of us. I for one humbly admit that my thinking skills aren't worthy enough to qualify a discussion with him. But the thing here is, I find his arguments, in bigger words and more complex writing style, to contain somewhat of a provocative tone, fueling the flames for others to argue back.

Of course, it's NOT the superiority of his language ability and logical reasoning which infuriates people so much. Rather, it's his determination to prove he's right while, for me at least, looking like he's rejecting those against him to be wrong and unreasonable, hoping they'll see the error of their mind set. And no, not because he's arguing with a lot of post, but there's gotta be a limit somewhere.

Redfoxoffire said:
Is more a result of your own (and others) frustration than Onibokusu actually being provocative. And why are you frustrated? Because it's hard to realize when you're wrong and have nothing to fight back with. I know the feeling, trust me. The thing is, no one wants to be wrong, so when things get tough and your views are challenged it's instinctual to want to fight against it, and that's why people kept responding.

Onibokusu said:
2/10.

Try harder, or try actually adding something to the conversation. I don't think you've adding anything constructive yet, so you could give that a try.

Redfoxoffire said:

Is more a result of your own (and others) frustration than Onibokusu actually being provocative. And why are you frustrated? Because it's hard to realize when you're wrong and have nothing to fight back with. I know the feeling, trust me. The thing is, no one wants to be wrong, so when things get tough and your views are challenged it's instinctual to want to fight against it, and that's why people kept responding.

Redfoxoffire said:
ITT people resort to flames and petty insults because Onibokusu rained on their hate parade with actual logic. Good show.

Lefake said:
Why does he keep lurking around like a vulture, waiting to strike at each and every one whose 'logic is screwed up' until he achieves ABSOLUTE victory?

And did you notice my quotes up there? I find them insulting towards the other members who 'were' here. Without it I might have even over looked this whole matter.

Cashdaxxx said:
I'm not trolling, I'm just suggesting for you to stop since seeing you in every page in every news thread is already annoying. And if I were to construct something, it would contradict my request for I'll be increasing your post.

Actual Logic? You mean; I watched some 4kids production stuff so I'll counter everything you say about them. Nahh, I'll pass to that.

Onibokusu said:
Oh yeah, saying 'this is no longer an argument but a trolling section' doesn't make it magically so, unless I'm now trolling bars and picking up women.

Black_Rose1809 said:
Wow... I can't believe people are still fighting about this and with a person you don't know. I'm not going to give my opinion about 4Kids, because I did and that's that, But!

Just because someone is debating about something you guys don't agree with, doesn't mean you have to go after their heads. It's just debate, nothing concrete, just opinion.

Act like adults and agree to disagree or find some common ground. There's no reason in fighting something we don't know.

Cashdaxxx said:
Yare Yare
EDIT:
Finally, someone noticed. +1