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kisami said: DrRoboto said: $24 million in an all cash transaction an all cash transaction all cash ...Wh--What? who walks around with millions in cash?.....haha who walks around with 1k in cash? hell 100? It means there wasn't any stock involved. Sometimes a company will be bought using the stock of the buying company, i.e. the shareholders get some percentage of the stock as payment for the stock of the other company. |
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diezle said: Redfoxoffire said: diezle said: well as a true anime lover i would like to say a few things... 1) what? 2) if you really want to improve sales, get better voice actors. Japanese seiyu's really put funimation to shame Get better ears. FUNimation's dubs tend to be very good. one out of ten shows is bearable. if it was as good as you said then anime sales wouldn't have dropped so steeply i've never seen an anime that did weak in sales because of the quality of the voice acting. the only ways (that i know of) an anime would do poorly in sales is if lack of promotion or not a lot of popularity. oh and btw, "true" anime lover is a BS term. |
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diezle said: Redfoxoffire said: diezle said: well as a true anime lover i would like to say a few things... 1) what? 2) if you really want to improve sales, get better voice actors. Japanese seiyu's really put funimation to shame Get better ears. FUNimation's dubs tend to be very good. one out of ten shows is bearable. if it was as good as you said then anime sales wouldn't have dropped so steeply If you think the quality of the dubs is the issue, you are naive. |
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alexcampos said: I'm still waiting for this Headline: FUNIMATION BANKRUPT!!!!, Leaves the Anime industry! the possibilities of that happening are mixed, but seeing how they're doing right now, it won't be happening for the time being. |
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alexcampos said: I'm still waiting for this Headline: FUNIMATION BANKRUPT!!!!, Leaves the Anime industry! Why would anyone be waiting for this? I am confused? Hopefully this is indeed better independence by Funimation and not the appearance of it(Still a lot of wealthy investors in Funimation right now). |
GaZsTiC said: There is nothing particularly wrong with Funi dubs. They DO however need to hire voice talent from outside Texas. All their voice actors sound similar and there isn't enough diversity. That's something I can agree with. They re-use the same actors rather often. alexcampos said: I'm still waiting for this Headline: FUNIMATION BANKRUPT!!!!, Leaves the Anime industry! And the subtitle: Sorry, non-Japanese anime fans, as a result of the largest distributor going bankrupt you will likely never see anime released in your region again. And that's just the beginning. |
burntlettuce said: alexcampos said: I'm still waiting for this Headline: FUNIMATION BANKRUPT!!!!, Leaves the Anime industry! Why would anyone be waiting for this? I am confused? #1 They're horrible at what they do (I'm not saying I'm a DUB hater, but Funimation does one good dub for every 20 or 30 anime) #2 They get butthurt over stupid shit and start prosecuting everyone for any type of "Infrigemnet" they believe is worth prosecuting. #3 These assholes actually go into YT and take down anything and everything they want, even when it's Trailers or PVs.....how fucking stupid is that??? I understand taking down full episodes, but PVs??? That's FREE advertisement... Redfoxoffire said: And the subtitle: Sorry, non-Japanese anime fans, as a result of the largest distributor going bankrupt you will likely never see anime released in your region again. And that's just the beginning. seeing as I've NEVER bought a single anime DVD....I could care less... |
alexcampos said: #1 They're horrible at what they do (I'm not saying I'm a DUB hater, but Funimation does one good dub for every 20 or 30 anime) #2 They get butthurt over stupid shit and start prosecuting everyone for any type of "Infrigemnet" they believe is worth prosecuting. #3 These assholes actually go into YT and take down anything and everything they want, even when it's Trailers or PVs.....how fucking stupid is that??? I understand taking down full episodes, but PVs??? That's FREE advertisement... you're not familiar with copyrights are you? |
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| Maybe they will hire new voice actors now? The same 5 actors for every dub gets very annoying FUNI -.-. |
alexcampos said: seeing as I've NEVER bought a single anime DVD....I could care less... Well then, you're one of the faggots killing the anime industry. I may not buy much (shit's EXPENSIVE), but I make an effort to support what I love. When I see assholes like you proudly exclaiming their arrogant, slovenly practices, I'm surprised there are any companies willing to stick their necks out in this stagnant industry. I appreciate FUNimation because they bring the US BDs and DVDs of some of my favorite anime. They release with the Japanese audio and English subtitles, so I could care less about the quality of their dubs. |
Lordcrab86 said: Not like I agree with how stupidly enforced copyrights are (what's the problem with leaving trailers and OP/ED animation's up?) but yeah, it's their right to enforce it.alexcampos said: #1 They're horrible at what they do (I'm not saying I'm a DUB hater, but Funimation does one good dub for every 20 or 30 anime) #2 They get butthurt over stupid shit and start prosecuting everyone for any type of "Infrigemnet" they believe is worth prosecuting. #3 These assholes actually go into YT and take down anything and everything they want, even when it's Trailers or PVs.....how fucking stupid is that??? I understand taking down full episodes, but PVs??? That's FREE advertisement... you're not familiar with copyrights are you? |
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Redfoxoffire said: diezle said: well as a true anime lover i would like to say a few things... 1) what? 2) if you really want to improve sales, get better voice actors. Japanese seiyu's really put funimation to shame Get better ears. FUNimation's dubs tend to be very good. I agree, Im not a big fan of dubs, but some of FUNi's dubs are pretty good hopefully thing only thing that will change is more anime's provided, and faster realeses |
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FatherAnderson said: Maybe they will hire new voice actors now? The same 5 actors for every dub gets very annoying FUNI -.-. I will agree, but one of the reasons funi's been using the same voice actors because it's a lot easier for them to work with, they know how these actors would perform, new blood usually takes a lot longer to work with, especially when they don't get enough time to even rehearse for their roles. |
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Onibokusu said: So you don't actually know about the quality of the products your hating on first hand? That's pretty sad. Sure I do....It's called TORRENTS and streaming sites...they also put DUBS you know... DrRoboto said: Well then, you're one of the faggots killing the anime industry. I may not buy much (shit's EXPENSIVE), but I make an effort to support what I love. When I see assholes like you proudly exclaiming their arrogant, slovenly practices, I'm surprised there are any companies willing to stick their necks out in this stagnant industry. OH NOES....Anime will cease to exist because of me... Why don't you preach that message to people who download tens of thousands of songs, movies, TV shows, games, and programs. I'm sure the MUSIC INDUSTRY should've died LONG TIME AGO, seeing as no one buys CDs anymore. The MOVIE INDUSTRY should've also died long time ago, seeing as everyone downloads movies and DVD sales have plummeted. |
Leon-Gun said: All that happened was that the FUNimation executives decided to buy the company, so now they are independent once more. Whether this is a good or bad thing remains to be seen since now FUNi lacks the funds from another company to piggyback should a gamble goes wrong. Exactly. I was going to point that out until I read your comment on the second page. I believe this change may help them in controlling their own budget and overall management of the company. Instead of having to meet revenue quotas from Navarro (or get blamed for not meeting it and resulting in further debt for Navarro), they can make their own judgements based on their deals and estimate from there on. As a subber (and owner of Vexille which Funi licensed), I'd hate to see them go bankrupt. That would greatly limit the ability to purchase anime easily and for cheap (as opposed to buying raw which is expensive and rare if it's not popular). Especially considering Funi are providing it in Blu-ray while say, Viz doesn't even provide their most popular animes (namely Naruto and Bleach) in it. I am, however, against two fronts of the licensing of anime and these are the main reasons why I don't support these companies. 1) Americanisation of anime (sure, Funimation is based on the US, but the products are sold up north in Canada too, you know - and as a multi-culture nation, not everyone understand colloquial American gibberish). I don't mind it being localised, but only when/if the anime is based or themed with a western culture. It's completely redundant to use collogial American English for an anime set in the edo period. 2) Dubbing. Pretty much the same reason why many others hate it. Although, I did like the Duel Monsters dubbing. |
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Onibokusu said: 1. Anime haven't been 'Americanized' in any fashion since the early 90s. Afro Samurai. Need I say more? Americanised heavily (set in the edo period) and as far as I have seen, only available in dubbed form. Came out in 2007, while the film in 2009. |
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alexcampos said: I'm still waiting for this Headline: FUNIMATION BANKRUPT!!!!, Leaves the Anime industry! alexcampos said: Sure I do....It's called TORRENTS and streaming sites...they also put DUBS you know... OH NOES....Anime will cease to exist because of me... I dont get you, if you download ALL your anime titles regardless if its licensed by funi or any R1 company(not like you care for copyright laws), why would you care if they are in business or not? its not like it would change anything for YOU if they went out of business, you would still dl anime and what not. It would affect us thou, we would have to resorting to dl anime or importing our anime goods. sry pal but i dont wanna lower myself to your standards |
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alchemist11 said: Onibokusu said: 1. Anime haven't been 'Americanized' in any fashion since the early 90s. Afro Samurai. Need I say more? Americanised heavily (set in the edo period) and as far as I have seen, only available in dubbed form. Came out in 2007, while the film in 2009. That series doesn't have a Japanese audio track available. If anything, that series was made with Western themes in mind. |
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alexcampos said: Redfoxoffire said: And the subtitle: Sorry, non-Japanese anime fans, as a result of the largest distributor going bankrupt you will likely never see anime released in your region again. And that's just the beginning. seeing as I've NEVER bought a single anime DVD....I could care less... Because you're the only person that matters. Do you not realize the adverse effects such a situation would actually have on anime in general? alchemist11 said: Onibokusu said: 1. Anime haven't been 'Americanized' in any fashion since the early 90s. Afro Samurai. Need I say more? Americanised heavily (set in the edo period) and as far as I have seen, only available in dubbed form. Came out in 2007, while the film in 2009. Seeing as it's only in English, as you pointed out, does that even count as Americanized? Americanization occurs when a licensing company makes edits to the actual content, but since Afro Samurai was clearly intended to be the way it is, that doesn't really fit the bill. In the past ten years, 4Kids is really the only company that's done Americanization that I know if, and that's just, you know, for kids. |
alexcampos said: DrRoboto said: Well then, you're one of the faggots killing the anime industry. I may not buy much (shit's EXPENSIVE), but I make an effort to support what I love. When I see assholes like you proudly exclaiming their arrogant, slovenly practices, I'm surprised there are any companies willing to stick their necks out in this stagnant industry. OH NOES....Anime will cease to exist because of me... Why don't you preach that message to people who download tens of thousands of songs, movies, TV shows, games, and programs. I'm sure the MUSIC INDUSTRY should've died LONG TIME AGO, seeing as no one buys CDs anymore. The MOVIE INDUSTRY should've also died long time ago, seeing as everyone downloads movies and DVD sales have plummeted. The music and movie industry you're referring to is almost exclusively in America. Here, there are plenty of other sources of revenue to support their respective artists. People still go to movie theaters and concerts in droves; movies and music are part of our culture. There will always be someone willing to pay to keep them around. Now, this is the case for anime in Japan. Not in the US. I actually want to own the anime I love, so it pisses me off when I see faggots like you shoving your retroactive faggotry in my face. |
Badhiro said: I dont get you, if you download ALL your anime titles regardless if its licensed by funi or any R1 company(not like you care for copyright laws), why would you care if they are in business or not? its not like it would change anything for YOU if they went out of business, you would still dl anime and what not. I'm proud to be one of the few people who can honestly say I get all my anime for FREE and no I don't care about supporting the industry, nor do I care if Funimation or any other American company with their MILLIONS OF DOLLARS goes out of business. If Funimation one day goes bankrupt, it would make a lot of things more "Convenient" for someone like me....that's all I can say. |
Redfoxoffire said: Seeing as it's only in English, as you pointed out, does that even count as Americanized? Americanization occurs when a licensing company makes edits to the actual content, but since Afro Samurai was clearly intended to be the way it is, that doesn't really fit the bill. Okay, that wasn't the greatest of examples. But of the animes I've seen (or attempted) that Funimation licensed, that was the most blatant. Other's that I've seen would be Samurai Champloo and Shaman King. Also, when I say Americanisation, I don't mean just terms, spelling or grammar, but incorrect translation to suit the American audience. Such as using "bastard" for teme. Teme is means "you" but with an exclamation. And so forth. I haven't seen European English subs use bastard for teme. |
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alexcampos said: Badhiro said: I dont get you, if you download ALL your anime titles regardless if its licensed by funi or any R1 company(not like you care for copyright laws), why would you care if they are in business or not? its not like it would change anything for YOU if they went out of business, you would still dl anime and what not. I'm proud to be one of the few people who can honestly say I get all my anime for FREE and no I don't care about supporting the industry, nor do I care if Funimation or any other American company with their MILLIONS OF DOLLARS goes out of business. If Funimation one day goes bankrupt, it would make a lot of things more "Convenient" for someone like me....that's all I can say. How the hell can you even call yourself an anime fan with that kind of attitude? You're proud to contribute to the theoretical downfall of anime? You shame the anime fanbase. |
alchemist11 said: Onibokusu said: 1. Anime haven't been 'Americanized' in any fashion since the early 90s. Afro Samurai. Need I say more? Americanised heavily (set in the edo period) and as far as I have seen, only available in dubbed form. Came out in 2007, while the film in 2009. The show is a purposely mix of eastern and western cultures, and actually afro samurai could be argued of not being an anime. Obvious americanized anime is stuff like shin chan, pokemon, cardcaptor sakura, dbz, and one piece (4kids). Resent dubbed stuff like the eva movies, H.OT.D., dbz kai, black butler, summer wars, needless, and phantom requiem of the phantom have not been "americanized", some people need to get their "facts" straightened out, before making claims. |
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alexcampos said: I'm proud to be one of the few people who can honestly say I get all my anime for FREE and no I don't care about supporting the industry, nor do I care if Funimation or any other American company with their MILLIONS OF DOLLARS goes out of business. If Funimation one day goes bankrupt, it would make a lot of things more "Convenient" for someone like me....that's all I can say. un-fucking-believable you dare call yourself an anime fan while saying such garbage? do you really think downloading anime is WAY better than physically owning the anime in dvd form? no wonder people like you are looked down upon. |
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diezle said: well as a true anime lover i would like to say a few things... 1) what? 2) if you really want to improve sales, get better voice actors. Japanese seiyu's really put funimation to shame Yes, because hearing an adult Goku talking like a little kid, is so much better than hearing him sounding like an adult. Funi has a damn good cast of voice actors. Just watch the FMA dub. |
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alexcampos said: Badhiro said: I dont get you, if you download ALL your anime titles regardless if its licensed by funi or any R1 company(not like you care for copyright laws), why would you care if they are in business or not? its not like it would change anything for YOU if they went out of business, you would still dl anime and what not. I'm proud to be one of the few people who can honestly say I get all my anime for FREE and no I don't care about supporting the industry, nor do I care if Funimation or any other American company with their MILLIONS OF DOLLARS goes out of business. If Funimation one day goes bankrupt, it would make a lot of things more "Convenient" for someone like me....that's all I can say. ......you're an idiot. Go troll somewhere else. On topic, so this means that Funimation is independent right? So what exactl does that mean for them? |
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Redfoxoffire said: alexcampos said: I'm proud to be one of the few people who can honestly say I get all my anime for FREE and no I don't care about supporting the industry, nor do I care if Funimation or any other American company with their MILLIONS OF DOLLARS goes out of business. If Funimation one day goes bankrupt, it would make a lot of things more "Convenient" for someone like me....that's all I can say. How the hell can you even call yourself an anime fan with that kind of attitude? You're proud to contribute to the theoretical downfall of anime? You shame the anime fanbase. Lordcrab86 said: alexcampos said: I'm proud to be one of the few people who can honestly say I get all my anime for FREE and no I don't care about supporting the industry, nor do I care if Funimation or any other American company with their MILLIONS OF DOLLARS goes out of business. If Funimation one day goes bankrupt, it would make a lot of things more "Convenient" for someone like me....that's all I can say. un-fucking-believable you dare call yourself an anime fan while saying such garbage? do you really think downloading anime is WAY better than physically owning the anime in dvd form? no wonder people like you are looked down upon. |
alchemist11 said: Redfoxoffire said: Seeing as it's only in English, as you pointed out, does that even count as Americanized? Americanization occurs when a licensing company makes edits to the actual content, but since Afro Samurai was clearly intended to be the way it is, that doesn't really fit the bill. Okay, that wasn't the greatest of examples. But of the animes I've seen (or attempted) that Funimation licensed, that was the most blatant. Other's that I've seen would be Samurai Champloo and Shaman King. Samurai champloo isn't really americanized, other than it's available in english dubbed. alchemist11 said: Also, when I say Americanisation, I don't mean just terms, spelling or grammar, but incorrect translation to suit the American audience. Such as using "bastard" for teme. Teme is means "you" but with an exclamation. And so forth. I haven't seen European English subs use bastard for teme. isn't that just nit picking? |
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alchemist11 said: Redfoxoffire said: Seeing as it's only in English, as you pointed out, does that even count as Americanized? Americanization occurs when a licensing company makes edits to the actual content, but since Afro Samurai was clearly intended to be the way it is, that doesn't really fit the bill. Okay, that wasn't the greatest of examples. But of the animes I've seen (or attempted) that Funimation licensed, that was the most blatant. Other's that I've seen would be Samurai Champloo and Shaman King. Also, when I say Americanisation, I don't mean just terms, spelling or grammar, but incorrect translation to suit the American audience. Such as using "bastard" for teme. Teme is means "you" but with an exclamation. And so forth. I haven't seen European English subs use bastard for teme. That sort of logic leads to complete and total transliteration. Which is a horrible way to translate anything, because that makes things hard to read. Anything hard to read leads to breaks in reading concentration. And that's not the way to go about translating anything, since the goal of any competent translator is to translate in a way that results in a completely smooth end result. The very literal way of translating teme leads to more problems than using bastard! |
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