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| Wait where is episode 12? Did the studio run out of money? Or is it going to be a exclusive on the blu-ray? |
| It was an interesting series but it kind of sputtered at the end imo. |
| My god.. If only the show had more episodes. The whole thing just feels rushed and so many things are left unexplained or feel half-finished. I don't even know if the ending was supposed to be happy or sad or bittersweet, it just felt soul-crushing to me. Is new Phryne's personality a fusion of the old one and Nessa's or are they even alternating? The latter would be kind of awkward. The plot felt lacking and was not concluded in a satisfying way, and the romance part left a lot to be desired. This show is yet another epitome of missed potential... sigh, there are so few good boy meets girl romance adventures and here I was hoping for a satisfying successor. It was quite good at the start, but became kinda dull along the way. Sad, so sad.. |
| Fractale started with 5 and ended with 5. It had good moments and a lot of potential, but execution was awful. No amount of pretty art and animation can excuse gaping plot holes, inconsistencies and horrible lack of logic. To me, characters were annoying and the random humor (pervert jokes =___=) was the worst. Some parts dragged and could be completely skipped. Some were only mentioned and then disappeared. I don't mind not seeing Clain's family, but the Fractale system itself? How come they didn't explain it =___= It seems to me as if they wanted to make this show "deep" while simultaneously "accessible" to all audiences. Aka: some deep meaning to spoon-feed the masses thickly covered with silly romance, stupid jokes and sugary cuteness. :/ |
| I'll take that as an ending. Decent enough but not the best, like the whole series i guess. 7/10 overall. Nice to see that guy get a stab to the gut, lol. |
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| A good series but should have been a few episodes longer in my opinion. It started well, drifted into the middle with the big change of direction then sprinted to the end without warning. Still I enjoyed it. Does anyone know if the OP has been released as a single yet? |
| Now that was one hell of a wasted potential. :/ Several first episodes with the introduction of an interesting premise made me think I'd rate this anime 8, then came the middle part with some utterly annoying aspects and so I lowered the score by 1. However, it was still enjoyable and overall OK. Finally, a fiasco called the last two episodes ensued and made me lower the score yet again and give it 6/10. The best part of the anime was the ED, I simply love it. @ManInBlack - yes, the OP/ED single has been released about three weeks ago, I think you can find it on Nipponsei. |
metamorphiusApr 1, 2011 6:14 AM
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metamorphius said: @ManInBlack - yes, the OP/ED single has been released about three weeks ago, I think you can find it on Nipponsei. Many thanks! :) |
| I loved this anime. I'm actually a fan of slow paced anime's. I have no idea why but I like them. The ending was nice. The fact that it was Phryne's body and Nessa's personality was awesome. I love Nessa, so I liked it. I didn't like the fact that Sunda died, but at least they were all happy. |
I am a sucker for romance!!!! ] |
| Those last two episodes were awful. |
| 7/10 Is this anime... ending was so so.. didnt like much the new personality of Phyrine/nessa |
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| Pretty nice ending. But what I don't get is that girl that woke up, is Phryne or Nessa? Or Phyrne + Nessa = the real Phyrne(The old Phyrne) |
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| fine but not that good. a fine ending for an average series. Yamamoto failed me here seriously, i have lots of expectations for this show and in the end i just tried my hardest to finish this anyways, 6/10 for me i might as well "nitpick" my shows for the upcoming Spring season so i don't get disappointed with what i watch. Gosick, PMMM and Level E are the winners for me this ending Winter season. |
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
| What I think is funny is that Lost Millennium spent a significant amount of time planning to destroy Fractale, yet the grandfather goes on to say this: Barrot and Moeran were both terrible characters who were introduced way too late in the plot to have any real purpose. They have Barrot laugh maniacally like a thousand other generic villains. Moeran could have had some real depth if they hadn't used her solely for her little revenge speech. They go on and on about GOD and THE KEY throughout the story but in the end give a half-assed explanation and try and divert your attention with pretty flowers and a sickly sweet ending. I like how the characters on both sides are so set on their beliefs, but in the end they go "oh well, live and let live!" and everything is perfectly fine. |
| An ok ep. About the ending part, it was kinda sad yet satisfying. This show has the potential coz the concept itself was great but it seemed that the flow of how the story is presented didn't go well. Might have given this an 8 if it could have been better but it stays at 7. |
| A sad yet satisfying ending. It could have been better though. This show has the potential coz the concept itself is great but it seemed that the flow of how the story is presented didn't go well. Guess I'll give this a 7 instead of an 8. |
| 7/10 |
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Rob3rt said: At first I thought she was "god". But it seems that she is the original non-traumatized Phryne, because she obviously has memories of Clain. She met Clain long after being used for Fractale. |
YGH said: Many peoplnen are using the whole memories of Clain thing and how she says "I love you" to him to base their idea that she's the same Phryne but I beg to differ. I think she's a merge of both Phryne and Nessa which is why she has the chipper personality. Don't forget Nessa also liked Clain. Besides, once their minds merged together, I don't think we can't consider her the same anymore. She's a new entity.Rob3rt said: At first I thought she was "god". But it seems that she is the original non-traumatized Phryne, because she obviously has memories of Clain. She met Clain long after being used for Fractale. |
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| Best quality and story this Winter 2011 season imo Overall: 8/10 Story: 9/10 Character 8/10 Art: 8/10 Enjoyment: 8/10 |
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| I really enjoy this.. even it was suppose to be a good ending i felt sad for some reason.. maybe it was the song. 9/10 - They really put together an enjoyable story in 11 ep Please no season two... this was excellent as is |
| huh? |
| So, what happened to Sunda? He died, right? If so, then I'm angry. My favorite character gets killed again... And Clain's parents still haven't returned? They don't really care about their son, it seems. |
| I don’t know what to say, it disappointed me. The ending wasn’t what I would’ve wanted; it barely gave any “closure” in the sense of the change most were looking for. Basically everything stayed the same. I’d thought it could get better; I haven’t been exactly fond of Fractale since the beginning. But the inconsistencies, lack of overall direction and sudden plot changes lightly developed for all the data –pun intended— that has been managed in Fractale’s world made me retract from my initial thought of possible improvement. I’m not really satisfied; at the end I felt it didn’t have a point. And the thing that annoyed me the most was the card up their sleeve trick they used to try to make sense out of the whole deal: what the hell is “God” supposed to be? How can you use a genetically identical girl and a separate “spirit” in child-version of said individual and join them to make a “key” such as the ancient “God” was? Really, how do you pretend using another plot twist as last resort at the very last moment of the show can make it good and sort out every plot hole? At this point, I still don’t know what Fractale’s logic is. Is it magic, science or purely non-sense? I’m rooting for the last option; I just can’t make sense of it. To me, Fractale has been a rollercoaster. Sometimes up, sometimes down. Mostly down. Sometimes epic episodes with great action and packed with plot development and afterwards light-hearted folk-ish approach with a slice-of-life feeling. I can’t feel the balance. A final 7 out of 10, somehow because I want to be generous. Although I may change the score. |
I think, then procrastinate. Therefore, I am. |
| The entire show was amazingly original. Yeah, it had its problems, but I was still extremely impressed and loved the ending. This and Madoka Magica have to be my favorite shows this season. 9/10. |
| The ending was pretty good, but the show overall is just a big disappointment for me. Characters were too annoying, stupid fanservice everywhere, and the stupid stuff with its director left a bad taste in my mouth. I did like the Sally Gardens song though. I'll give this show a 7/10. |
| The ending was a little weird but I liked it. But I didn't like that Sunda died :/ 7/10 for me~ |
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| A "meh" ending. 7/10 |
| When the series started, I actually hoped Yamakan would pull it of: make an inovative anime. Not that I like his drama-queen statements, but I agree with the man that it gets harder and harder to find real quality in between the ever increasing amount of fanservice and moefluff. The start of the series was so promising: lovely animation and characters with potential. The setting was interesting, with 2 opposing parties and Clain in the middle. I had some problems with Clain being so bland, but I figured that was deliberate, as he was raised by robots and lacked human interaction. Problem is that at the end of the series, I'm still not sure if that was indeed the case. Clain wasn't a typical Fractal user, and aside from some 'victims of the system' we never had to chance to compare him to other users. Next to the LM members his lack of initiative is blatantly obvious. The only thing he does on his own in the entire series, is go after Phryne when she goes back to the temple in ep 9. Even in the final ep, Enri has to tell him to go find Phryne and Nessa. Maybe he's an example of how people are going to learn to live without the system? At least I'm assuming they're gonna have to learn to live without it, as the temple was destroyed. Grandpa hinted at LM's role of helping people along with that. Major thing is ofcourse: why the hell did LM go from 'let's show people it's possible to live without Fractale' to 'let's destroy the temple and kill the members'. And what really pissed me off, was Sunda admitting he didn't know which side was right either, but sacrificed himself anyway. I hate senseless deaths like that. And than the Fractale system: so much to explore, so little shown. Instead of exploring that system, they went for an obligatory villain, and thus cheapened the story. Phryne's conclusion that the original Phryne was a happy girl who accepted the twisted world, made no sense at all. Original Phryne was so tormented, that she felt the need to fled in the shape of a 10 year old girl. And yet she was the key to the entire system. With that in mind, it suddenly makes sense that the Fractale system failed in the department of human relationships. She loved love, but the only love she knew, was for her stuffed animal Nessa. What she created was a shallow world. There's a big differrence with Clain's Phryne, despite her being tormented by a 'father' as well. Claine really loved her, and she learned to love him back. And so her turning into the new key will probably lead to a change. Now if they had focused more on that, the series would've been a lot better imo. Instead they wasted precious time on fluff (ep 2) and lame repetitive jokes. Missed opportunity indeed. 7/10 |
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| I really want to know if the manga will make more sense than that. Downgrading from 7/10 to 5,5/10. |
GladiusApr 1, 2011 3:09 PM
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theamato said: so...what exactly was original Phryne's role in the Fractale system? what an arbitrary choice of God. show had potential to be great but got too bogged down in its own loves love shit (seriously what was the point of even bringing up original Phryne? a twist that made no sense and had no place) to take off. solid though. I feel like the more they tried to explain things the worse it got. |
| We now know very well that a terribly executed anime can TORTURE people. What the hell is with the useless, plain, always-being-kicked-around-yet-not-really-fighting-back Clain? What the hell is with the bad attitude of and the utterly annoying, simply-slapping-people Phyrne? (It's too far-fetched even for what she had been through in the temple, whatever she had been through. She didn't have to be that annoying if she even knew how to get out of the temple, and be exposed to outside life, which was what happened in the whole show. But the creators just had to make her annoying.) What the hell is with the stupid and annoying attitude of Enri with her simply-punching-and-slapping-people behaviour?! I haven't even mentioned the stupid and dry pervert joke yet. What the hell is with all the inconsistencies as all the others here have pointed out??! It utterly destroyed everything for me. Great. Seriously, what the hell. I love this show for its music and art, and ONLY music and art I love. Every other thing is terrible. Oh, I also love Nessa. So, I don't even know how to rate this... this...... whatever this is. |
| Nice ending. Kinda expected it. |
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Char0079 said: I...I don't even know where to start. I'm glad that the ending was happy, and it ended the way I figured (with fractale rebooting, but with the catch that humans would have a choice, or that it couldn't re-re-boot) but....what? What the heck is "God"? I don't even.... They modeled Fractale on a 16 year old girl? What does that even mean? It doesn't make any sense. How do you model a computer on a girl? Is it a biocomputer? That never comes up at any point... and at that point, I'm pretty much inserting my own fiction into the story where it doesn't exist. Let me just... make a list of inconsistancies and oddities: - Alabaster invaded with ground troops, when they have a huge cannon and a ton of missiles they could have used instead. For what purpose? They clearly used their weapons, because the temple was destroyed. - Her "father" said that he was able to figure out the secret of the "key", but that he understood why his predecessors couldn't. What does that mean? There is absolutely no explanation for that. Did he find "ye shall abuse Phryne" in that book? Ugg. - The temple is destroyed, and Clain, Nessa, and Phryne are out in space (taken up by a space elevator). How the hell do they get back to earth? I'm just going to stop the inconsistencies list there, because my head is starting to hurt. Other than the three things above, I'm still wondering what happened to Clain's family. His parents are never shown again (his father is understandable because he's out of Fractale's range, but where is his mother? They show the family dog...). Oh well, at least they gave us a happy ending, and at least Phryne didn't get raped in some sort of ceremony (though we're now 100% certain she was abused, if not through rape, alongside the original Phryne). Actually, thinking about it, other things in previous episodes don't make sense. What the heck was her "father" and those doctors checking on the ship in one of the episodes? The table she was on had stirrups, and his line of "you know what we are checking" made an obvious inference to checking to see if she was still a virgin. That never comes up in the final episode though so.... I don't even care anymore. It's like two different studios made Fractale, and only made a cursory effort to share notes. Combined with Nessa, all of the pain/torment/etc is gone anyway, so it doesn't really matter. With no chance of a sequel (the ratings were in the toilet) I guess the ending was as good as I could have hoped for. Solid 8/10 from me overall, with the first half of the series weighted closer toward 10, and the second half (after the logic of the series went to hell) closer to a 7. If the novels ever get translated, I hope they make more sense. I'm pretty sure Fractale itself (whatever it may really be) wasn't based off the girl's genes but more so on the need of having a female with no ill thoughts towards the word she lives in to play "god" and be integrated into the system. The video of "God" Phryne kind of sheds some light on this when she says "They're looking for girls for this Fratale thing." and Normal Phryne says 'she was able to accept her own world..bla bla'. Nessa is the split personality of Phryne. I guess we can consider it her soul. In reality it's really just the side of Phrynet that pretends to be the imaginary rabbit friend. Her "Father" figured out that God Phryne was not really 10 and that past predecessors where assuming that both the memories (nessa) and the body (Phryne) had to be 10 in order to form the key. The whole wanting to rape her thing was his own twisted fun that didn't really have any relevance to the story in my opinion...at least not that they had time to explain. I have a feeling the reason for all the inconsistencies was because the series' ratings bombed in Japan and they cut it short. You can tell they could have easily pulled off a 24 or even 51 episode series just by the pace of the story at the beginning. The story's pace changed dramatically and it didn't leave time to tie up all the loose ends. |
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| Nice end, with some explanation about Fractale System. Liked the series. 8/10 |
| Last episode wasn't that great. So basically they wanted to create a body for the soul for "God" ...? What is she anyways, just this random girl? Besides, how do you make an elevator like that go up into space?! If the temple was destroyed HOW DID THEY GET BACK DOWN?! AAARRRGGGGHHHH!!! >_< Anyways. The art was pretty much the only good thing for me. I liked the minor characters but Phryne and Clain ... ugh! They were both SO annoying >_< Plot didn't make very much sense AT ALL. I guess the music was good though ... To be honest I expected much more from this, but I was really disappointed. I guess I'll give it a 7/10 |
narator91 said: I feel the same way. This show needed to be at least 26 episodes long. I enjoyed the show, but I think I will need to check out the source material.Good series but it feels like so much was left out and that really annoys me. |
| I liked this episode a lot. I thought it was a pretty good ending to a pretty good show. |
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