Puella Magi Madoka Magica
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| I totally called it. Homura is from the future! Fucking called it, fucking awesome. And I'll calm down later, but I really love my omnipotent awesomeness. |
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| Homura's face expression change very rapidly after the conversation with madoka makes me feels that she's pretending or something :D |
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| I...I......I have no word to accuratly describe how awesome this was but, will Sayaka kill uhhh (damn forgot her name) the red haired chick, or will someone save the day? |
saka said: Well, what I meant was that I don't see why Homura would take Mami's soul gem in the first place. How would this benefit her? If Mami was able to take control of Homura against her will like that I'd think it would be something Homura would dislike. I also don't see why Mami would want to stop Madoka from becoming a Mahou Shoujo. Before she died she was helping Madoka and Sayaka learn the ropes and was in no way trying to prevent them from becoming Mahou Shoujo. Homura, on the other hand, has been against it the whole time. It would make sense that Homura would stop Madoka, not Mami. Well, it's not like Mami has a whole lot of control.... most of the time Homura is control. She was breaking down at the thought of Sayaka's state and it seems like she took control of Homura because she was overwhelmed by Madoka's carelessness in the bench scene. QB said quite clearly that he figured out time traveling was Homura's ability and that she came back in time to prevent whatever QB ("Incubator") is up to. I don't think Homura wanted to tip her hand so early, and that Mami made her attack a bit carelessly while saving Madoka from the contract. She brushes it off and returns to herself at the end of the conversation to not give away any more. Also do we know that Sayaka is dead? ...she probably become a witch. I imagine they'll be fighting her in tears in the coming episodes. Homura also said, "Why must you always sacrifice yourself?" Really, what sacrifices has Madoka made? I can only assume that she's talking about something Madoka has done in the past. Maybe Madoka has always been making the choice to become a Mahou Shoujo, and Homura has been continuously going back in time trying to prevent that from happening. Homura also talks about people being sad if Madoka is gone, and what would happen to the people trying to protect her. She's speaking about things she shouldn't know much about, so it only makes sense that she's seen things in the past or future. Homura's breakdown seems like it's more out of frustration than anything else; she knows something the rest of the characters (and the viewers) do not. Edit: About the Sayaka being dead part, she isn't yet, but it looks like she'll either die or no longer be the Sayaka we used to know. |
desolatoFeb 25, 2011 3:40 PM
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saka said: *rewatches episode 3*I checked in here just out of curiosity, and I'm really surprised that nobody has thought of the same theory I've been running off since ep.6.... As soon as I saw Homura's teleporting ability I started wondering if it was a time freeze ability, and that maybe Homura had recovered Mami's soul gem after the battle. After all, we never actually see it after the battle, and we know the the body actually means nothing after the recent episodes. After this episode, now Homura's time freeze (actually control?) abilities are confirmed. Her (very out-of-character) outburst to Madoka makes me almost certain that my suspicions were correct. My working theory: Homura recovered Mami's soul gem, and Mami is sharing control of Homura's body. You can notice the transition between personalities quite clearly in this episode, more than the previous ones. I think I know the fate of Mami's body. Check out 21:24 of episode 3, just when Homura blew up the witch who killed Mami(now we know how she did it). Something fell out of there and splattered in one of those tables which I believe is Mami's body. And then there's this when Homura was saying that Madoka and Sayaka avoided death. Isn't that Mami's Soul Gem? Just saying :) |
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| At the rate this is going, this show will get a 10 from me. It's been a while since I felt this excited for a show, and I've seen some good shows recently. |
ydesol said: and i also love the character development in this anime. You build it all up, just to break it all down. Going to quote a comment off Random Curiosity from Saburou: I think this entire episode can be summed up in two quotes For Sayaka and Mami: ” Either you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain.” Kyubey: ” Some men just want to watch the world burn” ____ Concering the "Mami is sharing control of Homura's body" theory, I simply believe that Homura just had an emotional breakdown at that time. Notice what she says. Homura says that Madoka should not be so selfless, not be so nice and also think about the people that care about her, a similar message she has been saying before. Mami never thought Madoka was too selfless. Mami just thought she was a nice girl with the kindest of intentions, but lacked a goal. Mami was looking forward to working with Madoka! |
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prismheart said: Well it still goes back that he can duplicate himself to be many of him and that he can never die because the copy eats the original en becomes the real himself again. Unlimited regenerations is what I call it. Better yet think of it as unlimited lives it certainly does coincide with superior existence as normal ones could never dream of doing that. Yumekichi11 said: Kyuubey is a duplicator that upon his death doubles himself Do you really mean double himself? I think he is just an extra-dimensional or even higher dimensional existence (not like a god or anything but something above humans and most magical beings in general) who is neither alive or dead but is always there. That's why he's everywhere at once (almost) and shooting him full of holes doesn't really do anything since he is not really there but is there. Kind of crazy, I know. Yumekichi11 said: I believe what happened when they showed her eye up close is that she killed those 2 guys and many other humans. prismheart said: The reason why I think of as this way is that there can be no greater Grief than killing a human life hence why even killing witches which were human before creates some Grief pollution within the Soul Gem.Oh, I didn't think about that. That would be really interesting if your right. I was just thinking that she finally reached her limit mentally/emotionally since it is called a grief seed. No events need to happen only thinking does. Yumekichi11 said: Comes another interesting part with Madoka. At one point all she does is stare up and the next thing you see is a blank screen with afterward Homura griping her fist with the jewel still shining. My take on that is that Homura can erase memories so much that Madoka did not remember much and starts to look for Sayaka, so she made her forget about Kyuubey Swiss cheesing. prismheart said: That's very plausible but also someone mentioned that it could be also that Madoka in the future may not handle well in the long run and what a powerful Mahou Shoujo is may be a super undefeated Witch that may consume the whole world if no Magical Girl can kill her hence why Homura wants to stop her from becoming a witch it can also go towards Madoka's dream vision in the beginning. Regardless if Faust references are right destruction and consuming of the world is exactly what evil wants. I thought since Kyuubey/Incubator said something about time traveling to Homura that Homura is actually from the future and knows something bad that will happen if Madoka becomes a Mahou Shoujo and fulfills Kyuubey's evil plan. I'm also thinking that Madoka did something like save Homura and that made Homura want to come back even more to the past to stop everything from happening. Again, not much evidence to back this up, just a hunch. prismheart said: Also, if Homura can control time to an extent then maybe she can make people forget about certain time frames so that's why Madoka ran off without thinking about the riddled with holes Kyuubey. Yes that's very much agreeable. Yumekichi11 said: For one I see old Magical Girls in shadow form, which really may be just a foreshadow to what happens with Sayaka at the end of the episode. One the pics shows what looks like a part of episode 1's segment of Madoka's dram. Another one also shows Walpurgisnacht. There is also one that shows people dancing in connection with Walpurgisnacht dance celebrations. One of them shows Eins Narr, what is that? Finally among those pictures there looks to be designs of a tall witch figure. Could it be the last boss? prismheart said: Nice catch, your very attentive. I didn't notice all of this at first. The magical girl shadows probably do foreshadow what happens to most magical girls and what happened to Sayaka. Eins Narr? I think narr means foolish or something in German. Not sure though. Interesting, foolish eh? Yes well this the only anime I can take time to decipher. Rest are just not so much as this series. This so reminds me of me and my friend taking shots at Chaos Head hence why Steiner's Gate will be cool to analyze like this series is. Yumekichi11 said: About Kyuubey, he is still a piece of shit prismheart said: That's why I can use the GIF in spoiler QFD. prismheart said: You may be right about that cycle in that way, hence it goes back to evil wanting to consume the world with Grief through one dominant witch, that of Madoka. Shit, I almost forgot. Someone else mentioned it but since the editing button rarely works I'm going with this for now. Kyuubey said something about growing women being called girls and growing witches being called mahou shoujos. That could mean that all mahou shojos become witches. So that cycle thing Yumekichi11 mentioned could be right. They are all part of Kyuubey's game to get the strongest witch (not mahou shoujo but witch since all growing witches are mahou shoujos). Could be talking crap but I when I saw that line it made me think about that I just spaced on it while writing this post. saka said: Something still does not fit, how can it be when Mami was being munched on while Homura only was able to escape from the locks that Mami put her in after she was consumed by the witch. Could be that the soul gem was left out but there is no indication of it.I checked in here just out of curiosity, and I'm really surprised that nobody has thought of the same theory I've been running off since ep.6…..As soon as I saw Homura's teleporting ability I started wondering if it was a time freeze ability, and that maybe Homura had recovered Mami's soul gem after the battle. After all, we never actually see it after the battle, and we know the the body actually means nothing after the recent episodes. saka said: That I will agree with, it's rather strange that it's like that. I will keep a tab on that while re-watching this episode.After this episode, now Homura's time freeze (actually control?) abilities are confirmed. Her (very out-of-character) outburst to Madoka makes me almost certain that my suspicions were correct. saka said: That is undeniable with one concrete proof, that of the OP where Madoka is naked and there is another person that helps her transform. I am thinking that Homura and Madoka may become one or we are being Shafted into believing the Homura is Madoka from the future.My working theory: Homura recovered Mami's soul gem, and Mami is sharing control of Homura's body. You can notice the transition between personalities quite clearly in this episode, more than the previous ones. |
| My expression at the end of this ep was HOLY FREAKING CRAP, clearly the best episode so far....just wow. I want this on blu-ray so bad. best shaft series ever |
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Omniknight said: That's from "The Dark Knight" movie :PGoing to quote a comment off Random Curiosity from Saburou: I think this entire episode can be summed up in two quotes For Sayaka and Mami: ” Either you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain.” Kyubey: ” Some men just want to watch the world burn” |
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| Holy shit this episode rocked my socks! It seems like whatshername is going to be that walpergiehst thingy. Anybody for Madoka tapping her 'soul power' on her own? |
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belatkuro said: *rewatches episode 3* I think I know the fate of Mami's body. Check out 21:24 of episode 3, just when Homura blew up the witch who killed Mami(now we know how she did it). Something fell out of there and splattered in one of those tables which I believe is Mami's body. And then there's this when Homura was saying that Madoka and Sayaka avoided death. Isn't that Mami's Soul Gem? Just saying :) I can't see the first picture you linked, but I'm guessing you're referring to this? Before anyone says it, yes, I stole this off Yumekichi. So I'll do the thank you's now: Arigato~ As for the second picture, that could be a soul gem, though I always thought it was the grief seed left by the witch. I'm too lazy to go back and double check. |
desolatoFeb 25, 2011 3:40 PM
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| This episode was revolutionary. Many speculations have now been confirmed. Also got to see Homura cry. ;_; So cute and yet depressing. How could Madoka just leave her alone! >:O |
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| Yeah, just like I thought and maybe everyone else did. Kyubei is the real antagonist here and he has an ever bigger role in here. He is the one who transforms Mahou Shoujos into Witches. Tbh, I wasn't expecting for it to be like this. As a second note, I feel really sorry for Sayaka. Of course she'd feel betrayed by all those peoples...and, the next episode we might get to see (finally?) a Madoka Mahou Shoujo...I wonder though, why is Kyubei trying so hard to get Madoka to transform...what would her transformation into a Mahou Shoujo make him gain? I wonder if she is that Valpurgis Homura is talking about. (Oh, and abut her, that's one serious ability there) Can't wait for the next episode xD |
| All that's left for me to say is...There was so much internet lag and video freezing when I tried to watch this sub episode....Then I tried to download it and it was too slow, then I just decided to wait about an hour or so to watch it.... Well this is the first time I"m keeping up with a currently airing show but damn looks like next week could be the same or worse. |
| WOAH Intense episode! I was really hoping Kyubey would be at worst a Chaotic Neutral character but so much for that. And Sayaka...I really thought she would handle the situation better but hopefully Madoka can fix everything...OH SNAP! I guess those theories about her not becoming a magical girl till the end will end up true. I really like how this anime is different from other MG animes. I hope it doesn't pull an Angel Beats and tries to cram too much stuff into the last few episodes but the pacing seems to be good here. |
| Damn, rewatching it with subs made it even sadder. For a moment at the end, when Sayaka talks with Kyouko, I thought she still could be saved by going the same route as Kyouko. But she stuck to her principles and turned into a witch. Poor girl. Yumekichi11 said: It was made clear that she uses musical circles to heal different parts of her body Yes, she healed herself that way in an earlier ep too. In fact, her entire magic was made out of musical signs, like notes and ladders appearing when she was fighting. Also in her eye in the train  The same thing happened when she turned into a witch. Flashbacks all tied to Kamiyou and his music. I read somewhere that the amulet was a gift from Kamiyou, but I'm not sure about that. Yumekichi11 said: Due to her insanity she coerces Madoka into being a magical girl like Kyuubey mentions to her and so with this pose I don't think she's completely insane, more like: she's trying her best holding it together, after losing everything: her hopes, her future, her humanity. Lashing out at Madoka was harsh, very harsh. But frankly, at that moment I was raging at Madoka as well. It's all very nice to care for your friend and be all peace-loving. It's also very understandable she doesn't want to form a contract. But basically she was pointing a finger at her friend, saying: fighting is wrong! Bad girl!, knowing what she knows and doing nothing at all. So I think twisted-faced Sayaka is a way of showing what Sayaka wants to do, not what she really does. Moments letter regretting it ofcourse, and cursing herself. Yumekichi11 said: I thought it was very interesting we didn't get to hear what they said. And what would be crueler for us than later finding out that Hitomi was talking to him about Sayaka! finding out that Hitomi is walking Kamijou and most likely confessed to him I don't think she was within hearing distance, but yeah, it was final closure. I don't think she killed those guys, just seeing Hitomi & Kamiyou would make her curse her fate even more. And than realising she gave it all up for some assholes would be enough to completely darken her soulgem. Yumekichi11 said: It certainly wasn't clever, but she's sticking to her principles. After her talk with Kyouko last ep, she made up her mind to be a 'different' magical girl, as in: not using magic for herself, but only for the use of other people.Continuing with her insane behavior, that led her to reject Homura's offer to help If that would result in an early death, so the better. She had nothing to live for anyway. Yumekichi11 said: Yes, I agree. I think that altough she has lost her faith, she's still looking for redemption.Later one the most significant aspect is Kyoko stopping Homura from killing her. Now that is major development. Yumekichi11 said: BTW: When Homura mentions Kyuubey being Incubator, well I found this about it in the most common sense of magic itself. I thought they meant this hellfiredragon said: I thought it was the station. Not sure though.Not sure if I saw this correctly, but were Kyouko and Sayaka at the prior mentioned clock tower prior to the end of this episode or was that a station (or both)? kFYatek said: Exactly. Nutbladder called it: unimaginable hope. Now what's the opposite of hope?And more, I don't think he was lying about her incredible power and so. Yumekichi11 said: I don't think QB can manipulate time/knows the future, else he would remember Homura.OK and Kyuubey if he can manipulate time it's holy shit his plot may mean he will have in his favor all the he pleased perhaps that he saw in the future. It could be that he is trying to correct things and if succeeding them it will turn out like he wanted. prismheart said: Also, if Homura can control time to an extent then maybe she can make people forget about certain time frames so that's why Madoka ran off without thinking about the riddled with holes Kyubey. There was this static right before Madoka started remembering Homura. So Homura had no reason at all to stop her train of thought, more like the opposite. If someone blanked Madoka's memory, I place my bets on QB. belatkuro said: And then there's this when Homura was saying that Madoka and Sayaka avoided death. Isn't that Mami's Soul Gem?['/quote]No, that's Charlotte's griefseed. See here Translated runes etc.:  |
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Yumekichi11 said: "Hexeneinmaleins" summry: replace"1" by "10" leave "2"and "3" (to be rich) loose "4" replace"5,6" by "7,8" "9" = "1" "10" is none the witch said that is how to make the witch-basics |
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| " a younger version of herself with God knows what on her neck " this is a rose _______________________ Homura's talk with Kyouko, spoiler One of them shows Eins Narr, what is that? Eins Narr means A fool and the page with the all the German writing on it is from Faust and it is the the witches' multiplication table or one-time-one or once-one's-one It is read by the Witch from her spell book and it goes like this Of One make Ten, The Two let be, Make even Three, There's wealth for thee. The Four pass o'er! Of Five and Six, Make Seven and Eight, The thing is straight: And Nine is One And Ten is none-- This is the witch's one-time-one! |
Iri said: Pretty jarring episode. I'm still of the opinion that, somehow, Sayaka's going to walk away from all of this. Perhaps that "somehow" will be in episode 11/12 when this show might finally earn its name. I'm just hopeful that, now that Homura apparently has time travel credentials of some sort, this thing does not devolve into a depressing magical girl version of "Back to the Future", where Homura is Madoka's daughter/unborn sister/protégé or something similarly outlandish coming back to fix the past. After this episode, I'm halfway wondering how/if the show would have been somewhat more effective if it had been paced for 24 episodes instead of 12. Sayaka's descent has just been so rapid, in my opinion. Perhaps even rushed. A more gradual transition might have provided some interesting opportunities. So what if Madoka becomes a Mahou Shoujo and has to go kill Witch Sayaka? And for what it's worth, I love the way this series doesn't have any filler material. It's a freight train with rocket propulsion and it isn't slowing down for anything. It got through those dangerous middle episodes without any weird sideshows or detours. The show doesn't waste a second. Kudos to the creators of it. saka said: I checked in here just out of curiosity, and I'm really surprised that nobody has thought of the same theory I've been running off since ep.6.... As soon as I saw Homura's teleporting ability I started wondering if it was a time freeze ability, and that maybe Homura had recovered Mami's soul gem after the battle. After all, we never actually see it after the battle, and we know the the body actually means nothing after the recent episodes. After this episode, now Homura's time freeze (actually control?) abilities are confirmed. Her (very out-of-character) outburst to Madoka makes me almost certain that my suspicions were correct. My working theory: Homura recovered Mami's soul gem, and Mami is sharing control of Homura's body. You can notice the transition between personalities quite clearly in this episode, more than the previous ones. I've been wondering about that. I don't really want to know the answer now. I'm happy to let the show play out with what I think I know now. But after it's all over, and I re-watch it, then I'm going to watch where that thing goes. I'm still wondering if she's gonna return. This show is mad. Insanely, truly mad. edit: merged posts |
desolatoFeb 25, 2011 3:41 PM
saka said: I checked in here just out of curiosity, and I'm really surprised that nobody has thought of the same theory I've been running off since ep.6.... As soon as I saw Homura's teleporting ability I started wondering if it was a time freeze ability, and that maybe Homura had recovered Mami's soul gem after the battle. After all, we never actually see it after the battle, and we know the the body actually means nothing after the recent episodes. After this episode, now Homura's time freeze (actually control?) abilities are confirmed. Her (very out-of-character) outburst to Madoka makes me almost certain that my suspicions were correct. My working theory: Homura recovered Mami's soul gem, and Mami is sharing control of Homura's body. You can notice the transition between personalities quite clearly in this episode, more than the previous ones. I've been wondering about that. I don't really want to know the answer now. I'm happy to let the show play out with what I think I know now. But after it's all over, and I re-watch it, then I'm going to watch where that thing goes. I'm still wondering if she's gonna return. This show is mad. Insanely, truly mad. |
| If Madoka ends up being as powerful as Kyubey says she will when she contracts, that would make her, in theory, an immensely powerful Witch. She might even end up being near impossible to defeat. Oh, shiz O.o On a side note, Kyubey eating his body was slightly disturbing ^^; |
alexcampos said: kiba1996 said: man kyubey for the win lol. best bad guy ever How ironic that one of the BEST villain in a Mahou Shoujo anime is a cute talking rabbit or cat or whatever Kyubey is. Kyubey is ALREADY in my TOP 10 favorite villains of ALL TIME. Most villains are too stupid and are complete FAILURES. However Kyubey is full of WIN, he'll manipulate you and take your soul, make you into a "zombie", and let you wallow in despair.... all while smiling. And then he'll do it to the next girl -- right in front of you. Pure evil. |
| This pretty much seals it for me. Kyuube is evil. I was too naive it seems. Also, I guess Kyuube haters got some fanservice from this episode? :P So now there's two possible scenarios I can think of, based off that last interaction between Homura and Kyuube. In Homura's original timeline, either Madoka is the trigger of some kind of apocalypse, or she's the hero who sacrifices itself in the last battle. Maybe both will turn out to be true? Either way, the reason this anime hasn't had its titular lead character become a magical girl is obvious. This satisfies my initial hypothesis that her transformation would be like some kind of end-game scenario! I hope. |
TheShamelessMiko said: On a side note, Kyubey eating his body was slightly disturbing ^^; That was too great to properly describe in words. And then he starts to roll around....FUCKING AWESOME!!! I Love Kyubey, I just wished more people could see how great of a character he really is. |
| oh my god. this anime is truly a masterpiece. im so glad i decided to start watching this. It has officially moved into my favorites. |
Hokuto_no_FuzzFeb 24, 2011 11:45 PM
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| **spoiler**holy shit that was a good episode. wow watching the teasers for this series before it came out all i could think was oh great another magical girl who dances around showing her underwear lol man i was wrong this is such an awesome psychological thriller. with such a twist so soon i knew kkyuube was evil but never thought he was the mastermind behind the entire witch thing wow. loved it. next week needs to come soooooon |
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cleo said: Homura was holding a Grief Seed at the end. And it doesn't look like she went back to take the item at the table.belatkuro said: No, that's Charlotte's griefseed. See hereAnd then there's this when Homura was saying that Madoka and Sayaka avoided death. Isn't that Mami's Soul Gem? |
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alexcampos said: TheShamelessMiko said: On a side note, Kyubey eating his body was slightly disturbing ^^; That was too great to properly describe in words. And then he starts to roll around....FUCKING AWESOME!!! I Love Kyubey, I just wished more people could see how great of a character he really is. lol I actually adore Kyubey. It's nice to see the cute mascot turn out to be not as good as you might originally think. I love how he can tell you that you're more or less dead and still be like :3 XD |
| Ok soooo if Madoka will have the most power everrrr then when she turns into a witch she'll be the big badd impossible boss!!! Thats what Im guessing Kyubeyy wants~ Also its obvious now that madoka is something realllllyyyy important to Homura! I doubt Homura is the future Madoka but I think Homura must somehow link to the Pink, long haired Madoka in the op!!! |
| So much win in this episode. And that Sayaka bitch is finally going to die! Hurray! |
anonynomnom said: I'm not sure if it's been asked or not, but is it possible for Madoka to ask Kyubey to get rid of the witches as her wish if she became a magical girl? He keeps saying he can perform miracles so why haven't any of them thought of that yet? Also, I have a feeling the dream Madoka has in ep.1 might have something to do with Sayaka. Kind of excited to see how this goes. I think Kyubey specifically said to Madoka that even Kyubey power has limits. But Madoka could surpass Kyubey if she wishes. |
| this show is getting better every week. I can't wait till next episode No fillers, MORE questions =) 10/10 so far |
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Iilia said: Well, yeah it's probably not out of kindness. I imagine it has something to do with Homura's true nature which has yet to be revealed.Well, what I meant was that I don't see why Homura would take Mami's soul gem in the first place. How would this benefit her? If Mami was able to take control of Homura against her will like that I'd think it would be something Homura would dislike. I also don't see why Mami would want to stop Madoka from becoming a Mahou Shoujo. Before she died she was helping Madoka and Sayaka learn the ropes and was in no way trying to prevent them from becoming Mahou Shoujo. Homura, on the other hand, has been against it the whole time. It would make sense that Homura would stop Madoka, not Mami. Iilia said: Yes, it's safe to say that Mami knows everything Homura knows.... Homura has somehow shown her the possible futures and why they must be prevented. Mami considers Madoka her first true friend presumably, so watching the cruel fates that Madoka has fallen victim to in those alternate futures is probably very emotional for her.Homura also said, "Why must you always sacrifice yourself?" Really, what sacrifices has Madoka made? I can only assume that she's talking about something Madoka has done in the past. Maybe Madoka has always been making the choice to become a Mahou Shoujo, and Homura has been continuously going back in time trying to prevent that from happening. Iilia said: I imagine that applies to herself to some extent (that's Mami saying that, since Homura seems to be purely emotionless and rational). Surely many lives have been lost protecting her in other timelines. Mami has likely witnessed through Homura countless "everybody dies" endings. People protecting her can also apply by extension to all Madoka's friends (magical or not), her mother, etc -- the "think of the pain of the friends you leave behind" line is common in shounen anime.Homura also talks about people being sad if Madoka is gone, and what would happen to the people trying to protect her. She's speaking about things she shouldn't know much about, so it only makes sense that she's seen things in the past or future. Homura's breakdown seems like it's more out of frustration than anything else; she knows something the rest of the characters (and the viewers) do not. Madoka's dream sequence is surely one of those timelines that probably didn't end well. Everything kinda falls into place. Edit: time travel makes so many things possible though.... the one cohabitating Homura could be Madoka herself, trying to stop her own mistake. Homura could even be created solely for that purpose. |
sakaFeb 25, 2011 1:07 AM
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| As I thought, Kyubei IS evil |
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br87mal said: I think Kyubey specifically said to Madoka that even Kyubey power has limits. But Madoka could surpass Kyubey if she wishes. And Incubator could have easily just lied right there to provoke Madoka into making a contract (which she was about to do before Homura decided to show off her guns). You can't trust anything Incubator says. I highly doubt Sayaka can ever be reverted after turning into a witch. |
| great ep with lots of developments. |
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| Oh come on, really? Please don't freaking tell me they're going to pull a Fate/Stay Night and that whole Bleh. Sayaka has had the best development. Sad to see her go now. I guess there's still Kyouko but I'm willing to bet she'll die. |
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Nice catch, your very attentive. I didn't notice all of this at first. The magical girl shadows probably do foreshadow what happens to most magical girls and what happened to Sayaka. Eins Narr? I think narr means foolish or something in German. Not sure though. "Ein Narr" means "A Fool". Also, please note that the figure above "Ein Narr" looks pretty much like the Witch from Madoka's dream in EP1. Oh, and didn't Sayaka call herself "a fool"? |
| I want Rambo in a mecha-suit with a laser-chainsaw gun that fires nuclear warheads, fighting the love-child of Predator, Alien, a group of Bangladeshi terrorists, and Satan. (Actually that would be a pretty sick show) - StopDropAndBowl |
Wordsmith said: oho.... interesting. I think you're right in that connection.Nice catch, your very attentive. I didn't notice all of this at first. The magical girl shadows probably do foreshadow what happens to most magical girls and what happened to Sayaka. Eins Narr? I think narr means foolish or something in German. Not sure though. "Ein Narr" means "A Fool". Also, please note that the figure above "Ein Narr" looks pretty much like the Witch from Madoka's dream in EP1. Oh, and didn't Sayaka call herself "a fool"? So Madoka has basically failed to travel back in time to prevent Sayaka from turning into the witch in ep. 1... and Homura is likely a vessel made to transport her or something. There are still some great variations Shinbou can play with the time travel bit, so I'll sit back and hope there are still some surprises left. edit: well, maybe not exactly.... since I don't think Sayaka would turn into something as powerful as Walpurgisnacht without some other force involved.... |
sakaFeb 25, 2011 1:34 AM
I am a banana. |
Mockman said: That's entirely possible, but if that's all there is, and if after that Madoka goes on to deal with Walpurgisnacht (assuming that whatever that is, it is separate from Sayaka), then in my opinion, Kyubey wins. Somehow, even though she might be enabled by Homura/Homura's true identity/Kyokou/What's Left of Mami/etc. in some way, the figurative wrench that is finally thrown into that evil little muppet's machinations, has to be thrown by Madoka herself. Whatever Homura knows, I'm guessing there is going to need to be a new variable introduced to prevent whatever she is trying to prevent. What nature that will eventually take is, of course, one of the bigger pieces of speculation of how this series will turn out.Iri said: So what if Madoka becomes a Mahou Shoujo and has to go kill Witch Sayaka?Pretty jarring episode. I'm still of the opinion that, somehow, Sayaka's going to walk away from all of this. Perhaps that "somehow" will be in episode 11/12 when this show might finally earn its name. |
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| If Homura is Madoka from the future (I don't believe so), then Madoka should have the same powers as Homura, who only has got a time altering power so far. If what QB said (that Madoka has got amazing powers and can easily transcend those of QB and be like a God) than Homura should have them too. I don't think time altering power is all that godlike. Maybe Homura is Madoka's little sister who will be born in future. Let's assume Madoka actually gets mahou shoujo power, kills witches, and somehow (due to the evil plans of QB) becomes a witch herself and dies being slaughtered by another mahou shoujo in the future. Her parents might decide to have another child and so Homura is born. Then she gets to know about her elder sister who died long time ago. By obtaining time altering power Homura travels back in time to save Madoka. Well, it might sound like a gibberish of an insane old geezer, but this is my version of who Madoka and Homura are. P.S. QB is now OFFICIALLY EVIL. No doubts. |
LIquId4T0rFeb 25, 2011 1:50 AM
| I finished this episode....and all that came out of my mouth was ".....FUCK!" |
| Hehe loved the episode cant wait for next week episode. But in episode one madoka had a dream right she had a dream she saw homaru fighting a witch wasnt it you couldnt possibly think that, that witch might of been what becomes of madoka in the future if she formed a contract with QB??? O.o gah no more mind fucks please xD |
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| ahh... swiss cheese, self-cannibalism, friends to witches and possible future yuri. what an anime. *puts on hipster glasses* I thought Kyuubey was epic BEFORE he went full-blown epic villian. He does it Ironically. |
fluttershyFeb 25, 2011 2:15 AM
| Homura is Madoka.... and if you doubt that you need only rewatch episode one. There is so much foreshadowing you can't even wade through it. pics for memory: |
I am a banana. |
| @saka yes that does seem where this show is heading. Since there polar opposites you can see why Homura is desperate to stop it. However the whole crying scene was definately something Madoka would do... |
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