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Feb 4, 2011 12:44 AM

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Wasabi said:
Am I the only one getting irritated by Madoka's typical mahou shoujo attitude? "I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE NICE AND HUG EACH OTHER COOKIES AND CREAM LA LA LA LA~" It's like she sees everything in a constant pink flowery color.
Heh, that's why Homura and Kyoko exists, in order to attack Madoka for that attitude. That's why we don't have to worry, since even characters in the series thinks she needs to change her view.
 
Feb 4, 2011 1:08 AM

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i was hoping to see Madoka becoming a magical girl until this episode. Now i'm praying that she stays just as a normal girl like always.
The reason is because since episode 1 i was suspecting of Kyubey and each episode he seems to me more and more evil...

-First of all the way he looks like. He seems to be a version of the demon fox Kyubi, but in a fluffy way (probably is not his true form and he is using it to deceive plp).
-Second because to become a magical girl u have to sell ur soul in exchange of a wish. Even if u dont have one, like Madoka, still u have to ask for something to make the contract valid.
-Third, he doesnt feel any kind of emotion for any of the girls. He doesnt felt anything when Mami died and also he doesnt seem to care about what will happen with the girls or the witches (he hadnt cared when Kyoko let the familiar escape for example and even tried to change her mind before about Sayako).

Also he is too interested in Madoka's soul. That time when he was about to being killed he could have entered in contact with Mami, but instead he asked for Madoka's help, who was just a normal girl and wouldnt have any chance against a magical girl...so im sure this was intetional.

It seems to me that he is creating situations to force Madoka to make the contract with him...the way he insists...the contract with Sayako that is VERY week and shouldnt have became a magical girl (ok, i know she has no training but still Kyubey never seemed interested in her)...
And Madoka was a happy girl, with a happy family, friends and a perfect life so to me looks like he doesnt have anything to offer her and is manipulating the events to change her mind...

I guess Sayaka will die later and Homura will be the only friend of Madoka (and im sure this character is on the good side of story- what really make me doubt even more of Kyubey).
I dunno if Madoka will become a magical girl...but doing it or not im guessing she will turn against Kyubey...
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Feb 4, 2011 1:38 AM

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Madoka is still not ready with her attitude at this point she would simply die in her first real fight and Homura comes to the rescue that was predictable.
 
Feb 4, 2011 1:50 AM

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These are the rest of my thoughts a ridiculous frenzy of replying of which I hope more discussions will stem from them.
About Sayaka, I think there was a great focus on her in this episode to flesh her out more. My impression of her ring and her soul gem made it tie to Mami. They were exactly the same. Mami's flashback memory made her look better artistically in regards to her face. The depiction of Sayaka in the sun's rays looked like a good show of her happiness, as happy as the feeling of heat and warmth of the sun. I think it was a nice key to show a little how Kamijo's parents looked like and the congratulations, yes it was reminding me a little of Eva. Apparently Sayaka has a symbol on her fingernail, which looks at first like a devil's nail from his hand, a second look at it makes it look like a crescent moon and the final look of it definitely looks now like a C. That makes me think of “Chevalier” and definitely Sayaka is the female knight that protects her prince charming Kamijo. Something I am sure she wanted all along.

It was interesting to see one room of Sayaka's place. It looks to me like it has lots of mirror and Kyuubei was weird for doing those weird movements with his tail and ears. Probably wanted to relax itself. Looks like Sayaka's building is a nice apartment complex. Something interesting people might have missed, is that for a split second Sayaka does have a sad face and then puts up a smile. Make me think she is hiding her sadness with a fake happy face. From the point of the transformation, I think it looks like silky threads Just wondering where they stem from? It looked more like some kind of mummification on Sayaka. I think it's pretty common in other shows like that so I don't think it means anything but Mami was not like that at all so variations are nice in this field.

Guess each Mahou Shojou has imbedded into her body their own symbol that is also on their fingernail like I pointed out. That is not good, it means it's completely part of their body now. Sayaka's attacks where nice with like people mention Unlimited Blade Works but unfortunately it was less impressive than Mami's and I am sure many might agree with this. About Sayaka's fight with Kyoko, IMO I think it was pure luck to have gotten her sword tip to tip with Kyoko's spear. There is no way it was done with skill.
Rest in spoiler
Can anyone analyze the writing on Homura's ring in the spoiler
and looks like Homura has a symbol on fingertip also. This week's art in the spoiler
Now let's see what you all think about all this.
Well, thinking about the picture, idk it can be like many people say, just random shaft art thrown at the public, but the dam eyes and the representation of all the girls besides madoka, seem to be very fishy lol... Like if she is the only normal girl in that picture
 
Feb 4, 2011 1:55 AM

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This show is really something else. Yeah, a bit of disappointment that Madoka isn't a Mahou Shoujo yet...but I don't really care after the show shows us that there are still mysteries to be unraveled before that :D One would be about Homura and her abilities...
Anyway, I predict a Mahou Shoujo Madoka at episode 7...can't wait for the next episode though, now that the action is still rising...
 
Feb 4, 2011 1:59 AM

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And suddenly, unlimited blade works. Not that it worked out that well for her, but still.
Anyway, dat ED is still love.
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Feb 4, 2011 2:04 AM

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hmm when will Madoka be a mahou shoujo? I like that Sakura girl. But I don't want anyone dying, especially Sayaka. The fight was really awesome.



 
Feb 4, 2011 2:33 AM

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Great episode!!!something reallllly bad must have happened to Sakura and Homura because they came out pretty twisted. Homura in a good/mysterious way and Sakura in badddd/creepy way!!!

Can't wait for the next episode!!!! When in ended in that cliffhanger I was like NOOO NOW I HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK FOR MORE "CRIES"~
 
Feb 4, 2011 3:02 AM

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Hmm another awesome episode, but somehow I feel like the animation during the fight between kyoko and sayaka could've been better (I think Mami's fighting scene was way cooler), but it still had alot of impact and goodiness :)

Did anyone started going crazy(in a bad way) when Kyubey suggested to Madoka that it's only possible for another Mahou Shoujo to stop kyoko and sayaka from fighting >_>?
 
Feb 4, 2011 3:12 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
Can anyone analyze the writing on Homura's ring in the spoiler
Looks like half of an "m" plus "ura", so it's probably just her name on her soul gem ring. Signature on the contract, as it were.
 
Feb 4, 2011 3:12 AM

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Again, a very good episode, even though nothing terrible surprising happened. But that alone was surprising enough. The roof scene felt strangely sad as I expect the happiness of all those people won't last very long. The fight scene at the end was beautiful done despite reusing of some animations. Homura saving the day was a bit too standard but during the fight everyone could have died...nothing was for granted. I wish more action shows would learn from that...
 
Feb 4, 2011 4:10 AM

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I'm really enjoying the show. I'm also enjoying all of the thoughtful analysis and speculation everyone's put forth so far. So thanks!
 
Feb 4, 2011 4:29 AM

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Feb 4, 2011 4:42 AM

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Ugh, I'm getting kind of sick of Madoka's depressive and indecisive nature. "Let's all just be happy and be friends and fight witches and eat ice cream..." -_-

Good thing Homura came to the rescue, but I have a feeling Sayaka will die sooner or later anyway.

And yes, Kyubei is watching you. (‿‿)
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Feb 4, 2011 4:45 AM

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What I expected which was to say it was a good episode. The little skirmish against Kyoko seemed a bit dull with a few reused scenes but it's hard to blame SHAFT after all the visuals they've given us over the past few episodes.

More about the episode here. Long post and some speculation from me at the end.
 
Feb 4, 2011 4:47 AM

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Loved this week's episode !

And I love Kyouko and Sayaka :D
 
Feb 4, 2011 6:00 AM

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A thought just popped into my head, what if when you die your wish ends or like "expires" because your no longer alive? Wouldn't that mean Kamijous ( I think that was his name) hand would be... ummm broken again?

I just thought it cause when you die your no longer fighting so your part of the contract (fighting witches) is done so the other part of the contract (the wish) might stop too?

Oh well its probably me thinking too much...
 
Feb 4, 2011 6:38 AM

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Well, I'm glad that my predictions of Sayaka getting dumped and killed didn't come true this ep. Yet I fear that they gave her a moment to shine, and her downfall will start next ep. Homura hinted at that as well.

I think it becomes ever more clear Homura made a wish to protect Madoka in the future.
. In earlier eps it's been hinted they have a history together, but Madoka has forgotten. In this ep Madoka asks if she (Homura) has even given up on people in the past, and Homura answered that she did.
. wishes are connected to MG abilities, and Homura can manipulate time.
. QB is unsure about Homura's contract.

Madoka was again being coerced into making a contract with QB and would have done so if Homura hadn't intervened. I think this echoes the scene in ep 1, where Homura is about to get crushed. I think Madoka made a contract with QB at that time to protect Homura.
Homura later on made a contract, wishing to go back in time in order to protect Madoka/preventing her from becoming a MG.

Still lacking:
. limitations of wishes.
QB avoids to answer Sayaka's question: "So you can really fulfill any wish?"
He just tells her not to worry, cause her wish is fine.
Implying some wishes aren't fine?
. What the mechanism to make every MG fight solely for themselves?
I mean: their lives are at stake, so working together seems like a good plan. Mami was willing to share with Homura. So what do they gain from fighting other MG's?
Is there a special something for the one girl who beats everyone?
 
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Akemi is too badass to ever allow Madoka to sign her death warrant... er... become a mahou shoujo.


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Feb 4, 2011 7:57 AM

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More about the episode here. Long post and some speculation from me at the end.
Quite a interesting reading. I have to admit that apart from Sayaka's speed her recovery speed is also a nice find. So I guess where speed/recovery is upped power is down. So Kyoko's pounding is stronger but Sayaka's speed/recovery may overcome.

Also Homura's theory of time travel. I am not sure Kyuubei would allow that. If so then perhaps the reason of why at the end the last enemy is the strongest of all. That is to get rid of Homura. I think Kyuubei wants something from Madoka and it may be that it's her soul. Just like Faust.

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Feb 4, 2011 8:28 AM

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I'm beginning to believe that Madoka will never become a Mahou Shoujo at all, would certainly be a twist considering the name of the show and I would welcome that.

I'm curious as to what wish she would make that would make her become a Mahou Shoujo even after all the warnings from Homura about it.

Seriously though, this has to be the best anime out this season and its so damned surprising considering the name of it =P


 
Feb 4, 2011 8:45 AM

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Another interesting episode and fight between Sayaka and Kyouko. It was awesome fight, so I'm looking forward to next episode to see Kyouko vs. Homura vs. Sayaka fight. ^^
 
Feb 4, 2011 8:53 AM

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I mentioned that too but it's just something to throw us off? It does not have any other meaning whatsoever?
No. They also has that same background in Bakemonogatari. I think the first part of Suruga Monkey. It's when Koyomi was asking Tsubasa about Hitagi's past and Tsubasa is surrounded by those kind of cars. So, I think it's a typical SHAFT background.

Love this episode, I can't really follow the fight scene. I was expecting Madoka to stop the fight. The cliff hanger made me 'GAAAAH'.
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Feb 4, 2011 9:21 AM

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Madoka is actually starting to become my least favorite character. She doesn't seem to do much other than fretting over becoming a magical girl. And given that Madoka still hasn't become a magical girl, I'm also really concerned about the pacing. Has the 12 episode length been confirmed yet? Regardless, a single season seems like it would be too short and rushed, but a double season could easily be too long and drawn out. I really hope they manage to get it right, without having to pull another Bakemonogatari or something like that.
 
Feb 4, 2011 9:35 AM

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That Hitagi Kyouko is pretty badass.

Looking forward to Homura and Kyouko fight if there is.
 
Feb 4, 2011 10:02 AM

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I missed this while watching the ep, but it was posted on another forum:


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So I REALLY do not like this anime too much. I find it boring at some parts and cliche in others.

Hm, I find it interesting that the cliche reason for becoming a MG as voiced by Sayaka - protecting someone etc. - is considerred a fatal flaw both by Homura and Kyouko.
The fact you're still watching proves this series isn't all that predictable :D
And they may go for the 'every 3d ep a person dies' scenario.
I for one am not convinced at all Sayaka is going to survive next ep as well.

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I am not sure of this but is there any meaning to the perfectly aligned cars? I find it kind of strange to put them there.

Yeah that was strange. It kinda reminded me of the start of a horse-race.
The race is on?

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She's not the kind of people to 'waste' her wish for someone which can be considered a weakness, kindness being something bad for a mahou shoujo.
Did you watch this ep?
She was about to make an incredibly stupid spur-of-the-moment wish.
I do agree that her unselfishness is probably basis for her huge potential, but it's interesting that Homura sees a wish like that as a sure way to get killed.

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- According to Homura you can't revive the dead, so her and/or Sayaka's death is not likely to trigger Madoka's contract.

It's annoying that Nutbladder's and gg's versions differed in translating that, so I'm still not sure if it's really impossible. I guess we only know for sure if someone asks QB.

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Also Homura's theory of time travel. I am not sure Kyuubei would allow that.

That's why I want them to come up with some concrete answers about the limitations of wishes.
My questions about Homura: Why is she so focused on Madoka? Why is she so obsessedwith keeping Madoka out of the MS-game? Why did it hit her emotionally when Madoka said she wouldn't forget her?
The only answer I can come up with is her doing a set-back in time, especially as it seems she was manipulating time this ep.

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Im starting to think Homura is actually Madoka going back in time to stop herself from becoming a Mahou Shojo and critically fucking up her/everyone around her's life.

I've been thinking about that as well and I see it as a real possibility. Also because long-haired Madoka from the OP looks like Homura.
And maybe it's not the first time that has occured,kinda like Groundhog Day, which would explain Homura's power and knowledge...
 
Feb 4, 2011 10:13 AM

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That Kyubei bastard is always looking for opportunity to make contract with Madoka.... I'm pretty sure he was the one who gave away their location to Kyouko....

Btw Kyouko what a badass mahou shoujo.....
 
Feb 4, 2011 10:18 AM

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My guess is that Madoka will become a Mahou Shoujo to save Homura, but that won't be any episode soon.

Nice episode by the way, I just love this anime ^^

 
Feb 4, 2011 10:24 AM

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I have so many speculations/predictions about this anime that I couldn't list them all here, I can't wait for the next ep!!
 
Feb 4, 2011 10:55 AM

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That furry is evil.
 
Feb 4, 2011 11:54 AM

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I wonder why nobody I have seen so far has commented about one very important thing. Why do Mahou Shoujo have to fight witches?

In the second episode Mami told the girls that grief seeds restore the magic power she used. However this brings up a problem. Once Kyuubei grants your wish why didn't any magical girl just lay back and just live out their life? After all if you don't use any magic there isn't a problem. They are under no obligation to hunt witches. And the big question. What happened when a soul gem dims completely?

I have a theory. Kyuubei grants your wish. And does it well. However in order to keep the wish you need to prevent your soul gem from dimming. Over time a soul gem dims. If it dims completely Kyuubei gets your soul and your wish gets undone.(That would explain the comments of "We are doing this for our wishes") After that maybe the magical girl turns into a witch and completes the cycle.

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I don't know if anyone thought of it before but... in one ep they said something about magicial girls being created through good wishes, and witches through bad wishes (curses) or something like that (can't recall completly now).

So perhaps when your soul gem dims completly, not only you turn into a witch, but your wish also turns into a negative version of itself? This would work easily for wishes made for other people, like Sayaka's, but I don't know how it'd work for ones like "I wanna be a millionare", so this idea doesn't seem too likely, but...
 
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What Im starting to think is that kyubey had some sort of control over Mami and now sayaka. It makes more sense when you think of it that way. Or at least to me it does...

Think about it, if Mami knows all the dangers of being a Mahou shoujo then why is she so insistant that Madoka becomes one. It seems to be exactly what kyubey wants. It just all seems like a setup to try and get Madoka to be a Mahou shoujo. And now Sayaka is just letting her best friend go in the way of danger so Sayaka isnt scared? I mean I wouldnt do that to my friend. Sayaka just seems to be taking it all to well and is almost baiting Madoka to coming with her, just like Mami did.

Kyubey's plan may be to use Sayaka just like he did for Mami and make it to where Madoka feels like she has to make the contract to save her. Cause he obviously only cares about getting Madoka to make the contract, he doesnt care at all about Sayaka's or Mami's lives. So to me I feel like once they make the contract with kyubey they give a piece of themselves to him, and in doing so he can control them.... Scary furry....

But he does have good taste XD


one last thing... what the hell is kyubey? a demon? whats his orgin? and where are the rest of the kyubeys? Are they like him (and EVIL!!!!)

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Feb 4, 2011 12:43 PM

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Will Madoka become a magician? go go Madoka
I liked this episode much.

There is this one feeling I have that if Madoka becomes a magi that she will be lot stronger than Homura. It may be because of the dream at the start but still I think it'll be so.

Lame ending for this episode though :(
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Yes, that's a very likely possibility.
The only thing I wonder is: wouldn't that be the best piece of information Homura could use to turn Madoka away from becoming a MG? If I were Homura, it's one of the 1st things I would tell herto scare her off.

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Think about it, if Mami knows all the dangers of being a Mahou shoujo then why is she so insistant that Madoka becomes one.

To be fair to Mami: she didn't just paint a pretty picture, she told them their lives would be in danger when they'll make a contract. She also told them they had to be careful what they wished for. But maybe she was lonely and could use a MS friend?

As for Sayaka: she's very new to the MS thing and probably quite nervous and scared. I guess having Madoka go along gave her some moral support.

I don't think QB has control over Mami & Sayaka, but I agree that having Sayaka under contract is a great way to lure in Madoka at some point. He already came pretty close in ep 5.
 
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Am I the only one getting irritated by Madoka's typical mahou shoujo attitude? "I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE NICE AND HUG EACH OTHER COOKIES AND CREAM LA LA LA LA~" It's like she sees everything in a constant pink flowery color.


Personally, I think that's intentional. Like I said before, the whole show is meant to be a deconstruction of the genre- and what's the popular girly color? Pink. What's the typical mahou shoujo personality? Sickeningly sweet/clumsy/naive/rainbow-loving.

For me, it's like they've plucked the main magical girl straight out of another show and put her in a far more depressing one to experiment with how she reacts. That's just my take on it :) They're making everything look like a typical magical girl anime, but the point is that it isn't. I have a feeling we're going to see Madoka unravel emotionally more and more.

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A thought just popped into my head, what if when you die your wish ends or like "expires" because your no longer alive? Wouldn't that mean Kamijous ( I think that was his name) hand would be... ummm broken again?

I just thought it cause when you die your no longer fighting so your part of the contract (fighting witches) is done so the other part of the contract (the wish) might stop too?


I think this is what happens too. Mami's wish was for her to live (more or less) so we weren't able to get confirmation from her death because, well, she died. If a magical girl dies, then their part of the contract is null. That leaves Kyubey with no reason to hold up his end of the bargain, and he doesn't strike me as a selfless type.
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true true.......
its just that something seems off to me. I feel like Mami or someone besides Homura should have realized that Kyubey isnt a nice little fun furry. You would think someone would figure that out by now. I mean "hurry make a contract with me" hasnt been said like 20000 times by now. And for how long (although unspecified) Mami had worked with Kyubey you would think she would have realized that he had ulterior motives. It just seems to work out too well for Kyubey, even if he is a little evil-genious manipulative furry.
but idk. We all know that Kyubey is doing something that we dont know about, but the hard part is trying to deduce A) what his goals are and B) how he will achieve those goals. Kyubey is the key to everything, what he is doing and trying to do is driving everything and everyone.
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Kyubey is only necessary as a catalyst for people to become puella magi, so I don't think he warrants all these comments with people trying to see him as something special. You are far too suspicious if you're saying he is evil and plays something more in the anime. Notice why he doesn't get any spotlight in the anime? Because he's not the centre of the story or anything important other than what I mentioned. The focus of the story is on madoka and the other puella magi. Kyubey is just someone who allows them to express thoughts. Second its blatantly obvious that Madoka may or may not wish for world peace. She is justice in this story.
 
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"It's because she became a mahou shoujo by wishing for someone's recovery. She has superhuman regenerative powers." - Kyuubei
WTH if that is the case, MAMI IS STILL ALIVE?!?!?!?!? She wished for her survival from her accident......

Kyuubei and his cheap trick... to make Madoka a mahou shoujo by making Kyouko and Sayaka fight with each other and telling her that there is no other way besides making her a mahou shoujo... nice save Homura xDD

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"It's because she became a mahou shoujo by wishing for someone's recovery. She has superhuman regenerative powers." - Kyuubei
WTH if that is the case, MAMI IS STILL ALIVE?!?!?!?!? She wished for her survival from her accident......
Well, you know... sure if Sayaka can heal faster than others, and Mami might've survived a near death situation because she wished for it, but dead and near dead is still very different ┐(-。ー')┌
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This episode was surprisingly tame compared to the previous two, but I loved that scene wherein Homura pulls the lid off her drink. Simple, but evocative.


Anyway, Kyouko's seemingly offhand statement about the foodchain brought something to my attention. Mami sips a cup of tea after defeating Gertrude. Charlotte devours Mami. The sight of a yellow egg reminds Madoka of Mami's last moments, and she weeps after putting it to her mouth. Homura warns Madoka with a cup of coffee. Kyouko is shown eating in all of her appearances so far (crepes, waffles, taiyaki).

I'm guessing that this somehow represent their appetite for power or their degree of corruption, with Madoka being the most reluctant, Homura and Mami sipping in moderation, and Kyouko being the most voracious girl at the moment.

And remember Mami's suggestion to Madoka? The largest, most extravagant cake to celebrate her becoming a magical girl.
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Kyubey is only necessary as a catalyst for people to become puella magi, so I don't think he warrants all these comments with people trying to see him as something special. You are far too suspicious if you're saying he is evil and plays something more in the anime.

I'm not too sure about that. I tried to see him as neutral for a while too.
But note how far more informative he is towards Kyouko: spilling info on Sayaka, her wish and where-abouts. Yet he doesn't give Sayaka a single word of warning about Kyouko.
We also don't know how much info he kept from Mami.
 
Feb 4, 2011 4:42 PM

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She still hasnt turned into a mahou shojou yet><
 
Feb 4, 2011 4:55 PM

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Homura manipulates not only time, but also space (look at the walls). Provided this isn't lazy animation, but I doubt it, because if it was lazy animation, it makes more sense to leave the same background instead of changing it.

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Feb 4, 2011 5:01 PM

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Kyubey drives me insane. He's like an annoying timeshare salesman.
 
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Like the previous episodes, this episode started slow but ended on an awesome high that makes me crave the next episode. It seems that Kyubey deliberately contacted Kyouko before turning Sayaka into a mahou shojo as a means of manipulating Madoka into forming a contract. I wonder if the rest of series is going to be Kyubey trying to lure Madoka into forming a contract for some ulterior motive?
 
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Ppl are worried about Madoka dont became a Mahou Shoujo... I think this AEWSOME and ORIGINAL.
 
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@Kuro-Tenshi: Methinks that has more to do with SHAFT's idiosyncrasies rather than lazy animation. They like playing around with the visuals.
 
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cleo said:
AidanAK47 said:

Yes, that's a very likely possibility.
The only thing I wonder is: wouldn't that be the best piece of information Homura could use to turn Madoka away from becoming a MG? If I were Homura, it's one of the 1st things I would tell herto scare her off.

Your enemy is someone who is constantly around Madoka and has mind reading capabilities. Also I am fairly certain that Kyuubei has a certain level of control over the witches. Remember episode three. Sayaka finds a grief seed in the hospital. While Madoka ran off to get help Kyuubei decided to stay with Sayaka. The second Madoka leaves they are dragged into the witches dimension. A place with a high probability of Sayaka making a contract to defend herself. Awfully convenient don't you think?
The second Homura tries to tell Madoka is the moment a horde of witches attack her. Or at least that's the theory. However this does have a hole. If Kyuubei had this ability then why did he allow himself to get attacked in the first episode?(Unless of course he was planning to use that to his advantage. He was healed pretty fast afterwards...)

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Yuunagi said:
@Kuro-Tenshi: Methinks that has more to do with SHAFT's idiosyncrasies rather than lazy animation. They like playing around with the visuals.


I doubt it. Urobuchi would kill a kitten if Shinbo screws with the meaning of that scene just to be pretentious. For this project, Shaft seems to be restring themselves to play with the witches mazes; the real world seems to be deal with in a normal fashion. In fact, I doubt Shaft could pull off a good depiction of Urobuchi's script if they played too much with the visuals, since a lot of the foreshadowing is delivered through said visuals!!
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