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01-26-11, 5:57 PM

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UPDATE
With the announcement of the three new movies, there is a lot of room for theories to form especially since the third movie will contain new material. The first and second movies will be remade, so there are problem some changes to theorize as well. LET'S REVIVE THE FUN THREAD.


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Because fan wank has never been so fun.


Crackpot theories, musings, and ramblings go here.

Talk about what you think is gonna happen, why you think what happened already happened, and what happened before what happened now had happened.


AZURE GET IN HERE.
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01-27-11, 8:29 PM

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Sup. I'm here.

So anyway, I'm now pretty sure that Mami will not be returning.
The new character seems to bring in the standard antagonist profile, but maybe there's more to that. Kyubey is now highly suspicious of what exactly he is.

I still hold onto the theory that MG become witches when they die, but probably unlikely.

Still no idea on the master of all the witches, but I have a theory that Kyubey might be...

We still have no idea what Kyubey is exactly, but he can make any miracle occur and creates magical girls. Making any miracle happen is a being close to God. Perhaps to gain more power than God he creates "Magical Girls" and then extracts all their power when they die.

The theory is freaking crazy as hell, but let's put the crazy ones out first!
 
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01-27-11, 8:33 PM

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This of course means that he created the witches in order to make MGs.

The only thing stange about the theory is that he needs to trick girls into becoming MGs instead of just going around killing them. Perhaps to hide the fact he's evil from god/higher power?
 
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01-27-11, 9:26 PM

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Well to expand on that, he did say there's rules in place that prevent him from directly intervening. But if he has the power to turn someone into a mahou shoujo it seems logical that he'd also posses the power to create a witch, by the same token.

But all in all it goes without saying that Kyuubey is a freaky little scheming fuzzball. Constant references to Faust (in relation to Mephisto granting any wish Faust desires, whilst taking the form of a poodle) and the bits of red skin beneath his fur in the first episode pretty heavily indicate he's up to no good.

Also I think it's possible that Mami will come back. She's way too cool to stay dead. But if she does come back it'll be in some totally mindfuck way, since this is Chidamari Sketch afterall.
 
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01-27-11, 9:31 PM

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Okay, we've all heard the theory about Sayaka being the gear witch that first appeared episode 1. The events in this episode only reinforce that theory with the possibility of Sayaka suffering a great loss next episode.

And, also:



This seems to be coming true, stupid theory or not. Though, if it continues that way, I'd fix it up and add Hitomi at episode 6 for the possibility of her also becoming a mahou shoujo, Power Rangers style. I can't help but think she is going to play some role from now on considering that she has been involved in all this magic business.

Also, Kyouko is a fucking bitch.

Edit: I wanted to add that I also think that Witches need to sustain themselves (or possibly try and convert back to mahou shoujos (if they are what I think they are)) by luring humans to first gather enough energy to make a barrier, and then lure in mahou shoujos to feed on their soul gems (this is pure speculation based on what happened to Mami, hers was on her head, you know how it goes, more on that after this.). They both seem to be on different sides of the same spectrum.



Now, here is yet another crackpot theory. I think that the previously shown caution sign was not only foreshadowing Mami's death, but also Sayaka's, considering the blue colour of the body/outfit, and the placement of the wound. Sayaka's soul gem is on her belly. Blah blah blah. Input is appreciated.
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01-27-11, 9:43 PM

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endtime said:
The events in this episode only reinforce that theory with the possibility of Sayaka suffering a great loss next episode.


Most definitely, since Sayaka is going to sound like a crazy to Violin-kun when she just barges in and says HA HA, YEAH, I USED MAGIC TO SAVE YOU! He'll probably just shrug her off as a loony and she'll go into a crazed depressed downward spiral that throws off her concentration, while at the same time yet another big bad witch appears to tussle with her. Mami 2.0.
 
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01-27-11, 9:49 PM

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-Zombie- said:
endtime said:
The events in this episode only reinforce that theory with the possibility of Sayaka suffering a great loss next episode.


Most definitely, since Sayaka is going to sound like a crazy to Violin-kun when she just barges in and says HA HA, YEAH, I USED MAGIC TO SAVE YOU! He'll probably just shrug her off as a loony and she'll go into a crazed depressed downward spiral that throws off her concentration, while at the same time yet another big bad witch appears to tussle with her. Mami 2.0.


I was thinking the exact same thing. Judging by what seems to be a monologue from the future near the beginning of the episode, she is definitely going to regret this wish, no doubt about it.

If Sayaka happens to die next episode, I suspect Madoka might be forced to use her wish. Or perhaps Homuralust will be there to save the day again, if Madoka gets her number (hot lesbian sex may or may not be omitted).

What I think that will specifically will go down in the next episode is as follows:

- A "boss" Witch akin to Charlotte or Gertrud will appear. (Ulla and Elly seem to be familiars, no grief seeds or proper rune introductions. And a new Witch named Suleika was revealed on the official site this morning. No art yet.).

- Kyouko and Sayaka will fight over who gets to kill the Witch, or over ownership of the grief seed. Sayaka gets (mortally) wounded.

- If Sayaka stays alive, there is also the possibility that she loses her magic powers and her wish for Kamijou wears off, rendering him crippled and emo again.

- Kyouko turns to Madoka and threatens her, stating that the town is now her territory.

or

- Madoka uses her wish to heal Sayaka/prevent her from being wounded. She fights Kyouko.

or

- Homura saves the day and then Homura and Madoka have hot lesbian sex.

And no matter which way things go, I just can't see things ending well for Sayaka and Kamijou.
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01-27-11, 9:55 PM

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endtime said:
- If Sayaka stays alive, there is also the possibility that she loses her magic powers and her wish for Kamijou wears off, rendering him crippled and emo again.


This one I hadn't even considered, given the fact that the only magical girl who's powers have worn off (aka, died) was Mami. Though I guess in an incredibly ironic sense her wish did wear off, since she wished to be saved from death. Welp.

But the effects of the wish wearing off with their powers is pretty interesting. Given the [alleged] conniving nature of Kyuubey, I wouldn't put it too far past him.

"Well, she didn't really come through on the deal so I called it off!" Insert generic (and somewhat creepy) perpetual ":3" face here.
 
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01-27-11, 11:35 PM

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One last thing before I sign off and go to bed. -Zombie- suggested that I find someone to play the Witch's speech(?) in episode 4 at around 18:50 backwards. Some people I know are working on it and there might be some results tomorrow.

The current guess + translation is:

"Today you came to see me. Next time, I'll come and see you."

Madoka went to the Witch's lair, and next time, I believe a grief seed will show up at her house.

This speculation is the epitome of insane, but it still makes a bit of sense.

Edit:

This episode focused on a suicide circle planning to use liquid chemicals to inhale the fumes and kill themselves.

The Witch's Labyrinth consisted of circles depicting death (Mami on the TVs) underwater.

The water is actually ammonia + bleach.

NOW THIS IS PODRACING.
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01-28-11, 8:08 PM

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endtime said:



Now, here is yet another crackpot theory. I think that the previously shown caution sign was not only foreshadowing Mami's death, but also Sayaka's, considering the blue colour of the body/outfit, and the placement of the wound. Sayaka's soul gem is on her belly. Blah blah blah. Input is appreciated.


If that's true then perhaps the polka dotted figure is condom-chan, seeing as her navel is apparently often showing, and the figure is showing its navel. Perhaps after watching Sayaka die at the hands of condom-chan, Madoka goes apeshit and kills her in a sudden contract SSJ fit of rage.

After rewatching the 4 episodes aired so far with some of the theories in mind, I think the global reset (or time travel I guess) plot is becoming more and more plausible. Some of the things Homura asks Madoka, or says in general, gives off the tone that she wants to know that what happened (maybe her sacrifice? shrug) was worth it.

For example, if in the "Old World" Homura had wished for things to "reset" and for her friends to be happy again, and the downside to her wish is that she would remember them, no one would remember her, blah blah blah. This brings a new context to questions like, (To Madoka) "Do you view your life as precious? Do you value your friends and family?" and also her jealousy toward Madoka saying she will never forget Mami. Also when Madoka asks what Homura wished for, the look on her face is interesting. Anger that Madoka doesn't remember? Sadness? Both? Bad gas?

Anyway like I said, having this theory in mind definitely adds to much of Homura's dialogue if you put it in the context that she remembers what happened while no one (especially Madoka, who may have been her BFF Jill) remembers her or her sacrifice. (Derp, "Do you want to help someone or want to be thanked for helping someone?" or however that line went).
 
01-28-11, 9:08 PM

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So far, I can definitely believe that Homura is from the future. I really hope we get more development between the two in the next couple of episodes. I love the relationship they're building (also fuck yes yuri goggles).

As for the grey polka-dotted figure, if it does refer to someone else, I can't see it being anyone other than Kamijou. Condom-chan's outfit is all red and black.

And not exactly speculation, but I do want to know what exactly goes down when Kyuubey grants someone's wish, and what Homura's and Mami's exact words were when they made theirs.
 
01-28-11, 9:31 PM

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endtime said:

And not exactly speculation, but I do want to know what exactly goes down when Kyuubey grants someone's wish, and what Homura's and Mami's exact words were when they made theirs.


Yeah, would be nice. I'm guessing Mami's was the "I don't want to die alone" bit. luls i'm so happy now, i'm not alone any more! herp derp let's all be frainds toge....omnomnom.

And yes, Kamijou does make more sense. I just want to see Madoka flip the fuck out.
 
01-28-11, 9:56 PM

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Hey guys, in episode 2, when Sayaka has a flashback of Kamijo, do you notice how strange he looks? Kinda like he's pregnant... Thoughts?
 
01-28-11, 10:10 PM

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Hey guys, in episode 2, when Sayaka has a flashback of Kamijo, do you notice how strange he looks? Kinda like he's pregnant... Thoughts?


Maybe he's pregnant.
 
01-28-11, 10:34 PM

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I was thinking along the lines of the reset plot as well. As if Homura came back to prevent some tragedy or to save someone. The way she's been trying to stop others from becoming Mahou Shoujo and how she went after Kyubey, I'm pretty certain he's a leading force in this. Not to mention he already scares the hell out of me, but there are a lot of different theories that can be applied to him given how little we know. What if he's a witch (unlikely). But what I'm most curious about is what he gets from these contracts. I doubt it's for the good of mankind. He's forcing people into them and shows up at their most vulnerable moments.

The thing with wishes is that they're never all they're supposed to be. There will always be a loophole. I also think the polka-dotted figure is Kamijo as well, but the figure's body is red. If he can move and feel his fingers, in return, what if he loses movement/feeling in another part of his body- or the rest of his body? Something's obviously going to go wrong with the wish, but another point to make is that the polka-dotted clothing looks like pajamas. Kamijo is in the hospital, wearing pajamas- he fits perfectly.

I'll end up speculating more tomorrow after some sleep, but I'll be having nightmares of Kyubey, I know that much.
 
01-29-11, 12:06 AM

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endtime said:
Azure_Shockwave said:
Hey guys, in episode 2, when Sayaka has a flashback of Kamijo, do you notice how strange he looks? Kinda like he's pregnant... Thoughts?


Maybe he's pregnant.


He's definitely pregnant.

Turns out the price of a wish is that a boy becomes a real woman over night.
 
01-29-11, 8:53 AM

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Turns out the price of a wish is that a boy becomes a real woman over night.


I lol'd
 
01-29-11, 12:17 PM

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how is babby formed
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01-29-11, 1:56 PM

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About the Witch's speech...

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-590.html

"kyou wa honto ni tanoshikattane, mata ikitaine, kondo wa bentou mo motte ikou"

Seems to be variations of that. If anyone's able to, have at it yourself.
 
01-29-11, 4:16 PM

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Today was really fun wasn't it? I want to do it again, (this time I'll take/bring lunch?). Not sure about the parenthesis.

Might be referring to your theory about the grief seed showing up at Madoka's place next.
 
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