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Jan 18, 2011 8:09 AM

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Azuma Hiroki, the original story writer of Fractale, praised the other noitamina anime Hourou Musuko in his twitter and complained to the producer Yamamoto Koji that Fractale turned out to be an underdog of Hourou Musuko.

Azuma Hiroki said:
We cannot beat the perfect combination of the original manga and Okada Mari as the series composer, not to mention the water colored arts. You bullshit producer! This makes our anime an underdog. I think it's all over.

Yamamoto Yutaka, the director of Fractale, declared at the press conference that he is ready to retire when Fractale fails.

Sources: Azuma's tweet, Nikkan Sports
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Jan 18, 2011 8:13 AM

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While I do agree that Hourou Musuko is loads better than Fractale, Fractale is also a very good show.
 
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Jan 18, 2011 8:15 AM

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That was a good laugh.
But yeah Hourou Musuko is in my opinion better than Fractale. May be the best anime of this young season, but we will see.
 
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Jan 18, 2011 8:17 AM

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More drama involving Yamakan? Who would've thought!?
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Jan 18, 2011 8:23 AM

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Honestly Fractale isn't bad. It's just the whole adapation for character design is a mess.
 
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Jan 18, 2011 8:31 AM

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Uh, overreacting much. Judging from average scores both anime are on similar level of entertainment...


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dtshyk said:
the director of Fractale, declared at the press conference that he is ready to retire when Fractale fails.


lol right as if your gonna do that... but realy lol...



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Jan 18, 2011 8:35 AM

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I don't think Fractale was that bad.
Talking about Hourou Musuko, yeah the art was great.
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Jan 18, 2011 8:40 AM

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He wants his characters to be polished with wax too? lol
 
Jan 18, 2011 8:44 AM

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While yes Hourou Musukos art is some what better. The actual story and the way it is presented is not. I actually enjoy Fractale much better because the speed of it, keeps it interesting. HM is boring and confusing. I knew at the beginning they were going to have trouble conveying a story like HM, and it seems they proved me right. Skipping 6 chapters may not have been their best idea.

Fractale has a movie like feeling to it, which I like.
 
Jan 18, 2011 8:45 AM
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Yamamoto Yutaka, the director of Fractale, declared at the press conference that he is ready to retire when Fractale fails.


Either you've quoted him wrong, or Yamakan is really pessimistic regarding Fractale's chances
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Jan 18, 2011 8:47 AM

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lol what? But yeah Hourou Musuko is better than Fractale. And actually Fractale is not that bad.



 
Jan 18, 2011 8:52 AM

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Isn't it way to early to give up?
 
Jan 18, 2011 8:59 AM

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Chaos_Pheonix20 said:
While yes Hourou Musukos art is some what better. The actual story and the way it is presented is not. I actually enjoy Fractale much better because the speed of it, keeps it interesting. HM is boring and confusing. I knew at the beginning they were going to have trouble conveying a story like HM, and it seems they proved me right. Skipping 6 chapters may not have been their best idea.

Fractale has a movie like feeling to it, which I like.

What he said. Hourou Musuko is not bad, but they could've done thing better, it's indeed a bit too confusing for those who don't know the series. I was having difficulties recognising the characters in the beginning, let alone figure out the gender.
But I agree the story will probably be worth watching. Though, I still liked Fractale more. I guess they're both in the group of 'best animes this season' along with KnT2.


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Jan 18, 2011 9:07 AM

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hmm ill check Hourou Musuko

but seriously Fractale visual quality especially the animation is above average for a TV series
 
Jan 18, 2011 9:14 AM

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Just from what I have seen so far Fractale looks like it will be much much better.

Of course I'm going to wait until at least half a dozen episodes are out before I start watching either of them.
 
Jan 18, 2011 9:20 AM

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hmmm gotta check them out first befaore i say anything
 
Jan 18, 2011 9:26 AM

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Fractale Story more interesting than Hourou Musuko though..
 
Jan 18, 2011 9:29 AM

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He's right about the art - it is much more pleasing to the eye. It's funny to see this type of twitter anime raging by the producers/writers, is it me or has that become commonplace lately?
 
Jan 18, 2011 9:39 AM

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lol, that guy has my confidence levels, saying it's going to fail when it hasn't even half aired yet.
 
Jan 18, 2011 9:47 AM

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I never thought there'd be an anime with an even worse adaption of the original art than Sora no Woto.

What they've done to the original designs of Fractale... seriously that's something you should never do. Never ever. It's like saying "no I don't like the designs, I'LL MAKE THEM MYSELF". Sure it's an original anime, but still.

If you want to complain, complain about that. I don't think the other things are that important. I mean e.g. one has an equalizer-intro, the other an "I only show stupid backgrounds" intro. And at least I think the backgrounds in Fractale are even better than those from Wandering Son. Different artstyle doesn't equal to "better", although it doesn't look bad.
 
Jan 18, 2011 9:50 AM

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Hah. Except for the drawings, fractale is way more interesting than hourou musuko...
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Jan 18, 2011 10:01 AM

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It's a bit funny because Mari Okada is working on both series (Okada is a great script writer btw). But i think he is at least somewhat right. The first episode of "Hourou Musuko" was much better than "Fractale". We have to wait and see how it turns out in the end.
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Jan 18, 2011 10:08 AM

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that guy totally overreacts.
well, I find Fractale more interesting than Hourou Musuko. sure, HM has a great art style, but the one used in Fractale is more appealing for me - somehow it makes me feel like I'm watching a movie rather than TV series, which is nice thing ^^
 
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Both shows are among the weakest series ever broadcasted on the Noitamina slot, that's all.

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Jan 18, 2011 10:30 AM

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This brings a smile to my face. He wanted a better product but he can't have it :(
 
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I've never had a laugh like what I'm doing right now since the New Years 8D.. Indeed..
Azuma Hiroki said:
We cannot beat the perfect combination of the original manga and Okada Mari as the series composer, not to mention the water colored arts. You bullshit producer! This makes our anime an underdog. I think it's all over.

dtshyk said:
Yamamoto Yutaka, the director of Fractale, declared at the press conference that he is ready to retire when Fractale fails.

He must stand in his own words if it happens x3
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Jan 18, 2011 11:18 AM

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Is this news or a gossip line?
 
Jan 18, 2011 11:19 AM

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Oh man, I don't think the situation would be that bad. Indeed Hourou Musuko's art is fabulous but Fractale is great, I love the vibe it gives.
Why people jump into conclusions after only 1 episode, seriously?
 
Jan 18, 2011 11:43 AM

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dtshyk said:
"You bullshit producer! This makes our anime an underdog. I think it's all over."

Brilliant....just brilliant I haven't seen either of these but this line...just this line right here. I don't have any words to convey what this line made me feel like. But I guess I can sum it all up with lolwutdidhereallyjustsaythat.
 
Jan 18, 2011 11:46 AM

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I liked Fractale more than Hourou Musuko, and I'm a big fan of the manga of the latter, so it's doing something right.

Adaptation wise, Fractale only changed what the characters looked like, whereas Hourou Musuko skipped ahead six volumes, which kind of pissed me off.>_>

Also, he's clearly joking, I don't know why anyone's taking him seriously.
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Jan 18, 2011 12:06 PM

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Why doesn't Yamakan just shut up and retire already.
I swear, that guy loves to complain.

Personally, I think both shows started out great so far.
Can't wait for the next episode~
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iSee said:
He's right about the art - it is much more pleasing to the eye. It's funny to see this type of twitter anime raging by the producers/writers, is it me or has that become commonplace lately?
What do you expect. I'm still waiting for twitter to bring forth something I could label 'a good thing'.

No just kidding, I've given up on that.
 
Jan 18, 2011 12:10 PM

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Yamakan trollin'
 
Jan 18, 2011 12:13 PM

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I watched both episodes just now... It seems like I'm the only one who likes Hourou Musuko better XD Fractale is the type of anime I rarely watch and not really interesting to me ^^;

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Why people jump into conclusions after only 1 episode, seriously?

I think so, too, they're overreacting. ~_~
 
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Hourou Musuko was definitely much better than Fractale, especially since Fractale is waaay too similiar to some of the Miyazaki movies and based on the first episode, Fractale just seems to be just another magical girlfriend anime like Ah! My Goddess.

Though, if you're going to rip off a series, you might as well rip off the best.
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Jan 18, 2011 12:57 PM

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WOW.
This is surprising to me!

I thought Fractale was very well done. I actually very much liked the direction!
Yamamoto just can't catch a break.

I've been seeing that Hourou Musuko was quite confusing for those who haven't read the manga, but I saw everything presented, even if it was just a small brush upon each subject. As time goes on, more things should start making more sense, I hope.
 
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Jacut said:
Both shows are among the weakest series ever broadcasted on the Noitamina slot, that's all.

Would never thought I'll ever agree with you on something.

And Yamamoto should just stop whining, as many people here already said. He's already a laughingstock, but still, he can't just admit that he doesn't have any talent as a director.

And Azuma isn't better either, blaming everything on the producer while it's obvious that his writing sucks. He could be a popular critic and whatnot, but it's one thing to be able to analyze something other people wrote, and to be able to create some interesting story and deep characters himself is an absolutely different thing.
 
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Face_Faith said:
sayami said:
Why people jump into conclusions after only 1 episode, seriously?

I think so, too, they're overreacting. ~_~

+1. People who already judge both series (which is better, if both are good, or if both are the worst of noitaminA shows) are either trolling or just being stupid. At least wait for few episodes. Man.
Art-wise, I like both of those series, I don't really get why did that guy get so mad. By saying such stuff about his series he must make people who actually liked the art better than Hourou Musuko's feel stupid. lol
 
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People who care more about money than their art shouldn't even be allowed in this industry.
 
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Heh. I liked Fractale's first episode much better than Hourou Musuko's first episode.

The first episode of Hourou Musuko was totally confusing and bland for me.

Sure, the art is nice. But that's about it.

For me, the story of Fractale was much more interesting (even though Hourou Musuko is a bit more original, but originality doesn't mean better).

I'll give both anime a try and watch the future episodes. I'm sure both of them will get better, to some extent.
 
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The only thing I liked about Fractale's first episode was the art. Reminded me of Ghibli stuff in a way. Hourou Musuko is great, though.
 
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well, I did like Hourou Musuko a little better, but that's harsh... xD
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Poor guy shouldn't give up so easily. Right now I'm enjoying Fractale more than HM, anyways. >=c
 
Jan 18, 2011 4:21 PM

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Fractale fails?

Uhm...

WAAAAAAHMBULANCE APPROACHING

but really, Fractale is a higher quality production than any other anime (I'd say it rivals Musuko other than scripting) this season.
 
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I kinda like Hourou Musuko better because its much interesting especially the art. Fractale looks kinda weird for an anime, same thing with the art.
 
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well both is bad when compared to other of the season
 
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Okay...I can understand some producers being a bit envious about other shows...but THIS? This is going a bit overboard. I mean, both shows JUST started! It's a bit too early to be pessimistic about an anime's performance, don't you think? And besides, I think both shows are great in their own right! Obviously Hourou Musuko is awesome when it comes to artwork, score, and emotional execution but I also feel that Fractale is also very good and fresh and original! In fact, I honestly feel that Fractale is the most original thing I've seen in ages! Azuma DOES have the right to be jealous, but he didn't have to rage and rant about it with blatant cursing! He should wait and see the end results before preparing to give up when things start kicking!
 
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I personally like better Fractale ^^ I mean both of the anime I liked them but somehow HM kainda confused me >.> Before I saw the first episode I actually thought the boy was a Girl >.<

But anyways, it is true that the art of HM is prettier but Fractale is interesting. It keeps you active and laughing (if u laughed of course) while on the other hand HM was kainda boring but i still liked it and i intend to keep watching it.

But realy, saying that after only 1 episode of Fractale T.T
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