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12-30-10, 1:10 PM

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shiki = best anime 2010 / best vampire-anime ever

good last episode
megumis dead WOW

the end was obvious ( i hate muroi & sunako)
 
12-30-10, 1:11 PM

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@@" OMG
wait a minute there was a preview for next episode
it means there is 23 or is it for specials ?!!!!!!

in the preview there were natsuno's mom and dad and those akira and his sis
also muroi and that stupid sunako are living together ?!!!!
 
12-30-10, 1:16 PM

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hahah the village fucking died after all. AND FUCK YES I KNEW MEGUMI WAS GONNA DIE EPICALLY i reli wish it was natsuno who staked her tho. natsunos explosion was so win. i wish he was wearing his BA shoes tho. glad sunako lived. hope shes a genius and tries that all over again. beard guy's death was awesome too. this anime was full of win. id give it a 9/10 cuz it was slow in the beginning and cuz they let useless idiots like muroi and kaori live.

love old school vamps this was awesome and refreshing.
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12-30-10, 1:44 PM

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at last the end , very good series , but the ending lets too many things open
 
12-30-10, 1:45 PM

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I really have to agree that the episode felt rushed and in my opinion the anime could have been made even better, but nevetheless it was awesome. The characters were great, the feeling which it managed to provoke in me were superb. It' like... like... the village slowly dying out. End for everybody (almost) and everything. I love dark stuff. Muhahahahaaaaaaa.

yeah , this anime should've been done in like 26 episodes , it would've been much better
 
12-30-10, 1:45 PM

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Wow! Brutal ending (as in violent not in quality). Some graphic demises there - Megumi's come to mind.

Perhaps it's me but quite a lot during this episode found myself wanting Sunako not to get caught or killed despite her being a central cause of all the vampirism. They did a good job in making her come across as more of a sympathetic victim here then Bam! - out come the fangs!

Great end to a great series in my opinion.
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12-30-10, 1:55 PM

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I was expecting more of this last episode, but it was ok even if it was too rushed. I was expecting a confrontation between Megumi and Kaori. They didn't showed us how Akira got away. I know it was Natsuno who rescued him, but I expected that they could show us.
I just knew that Seishin would become a jinrou since he was bitten by who knows how many times, but seeing him killing a massive man like Ookawa knowing that he's a fragile person was just wrong. Natsuno was so sad seeing Tohru and Ritsuko lying down and even if he died with a BANG his sacrifice was pointless. I also didn't imagine that the staff could make a mistake and show a jinrou who was killed by a bullet just to show Tatsumi who was shot from head to toes and was still alive. Also what happened with the man that was hypnotized by the jinrou girl to kill Toshio? Megumi's dead was indeed cruel, but I think that she got what she deserved since she was just a bitch with everyone except Natsuno when she was alive. Karma is a bitch.
I wonder what happened with the village and with Toshio?
As for Sunako I was expecting to see her dead since she killed so many humans.

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12-30-10, 1:55 PM

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Nature wins.
 
12-30-10, 2:02 PM

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STM said:
shizu_bara said:
am I the only person who really hates Natsuno? o_O"
..... and am I the only one that wished the shiki had 'won' in the end o_O"

I completely agree with you. If you're also a Sunako fan, then we're practically the same. :>


I hated Natsuno he was so arrogant. I just wanted to punch him in the face almost the entire time. I never was ATTACHED to Sunako, but she definately was cute and adorable, and I DID want her to live. I liked Muroi, but my favorite was DEFINATELY Megumi through the entire show.

Another question, anyone know what ever happened to that hideously drawn guy with the weird face? Did he ever get his brains busted in by his sister in law or not? IT. NEVER. SHOWED. IT.

Shiki was good, but so many characters to keep up with. ME personally, I like the end. Because it makes you think, who's really wrong in the world? The people who kill to survive, or the people who murder to survive?
 
12-30-10, 2:02 PM

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Was okey. No Katanagatari quality ending, but it could've been worse... maybe.
 
12-30-10, 2:05 PM

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Sunako should have got what she deserved which isn't surviving.

Megumi got what she deserved, being tortured by being ran over by cars, trucks, and being pinned by two tractors before dying.

Also, the very ending was inconclusive, most endings like this have a reporter and/or government officials talking about the situation and a possible investigation then it ends.

9/10


 
12-30-10, 2:13 PM
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But there was a preview in the ending credits. What for exactly? For the specials? Weren't the specials episodes 20.5 and 21.5? The preview looked like an episode 23 to be honest.


Wasn't that scenes playing from this episodes? I thought it mainly showed the car driving away and Akira looking out the window at the burning village, the finals scenes. But I could be wrong.
Yes but that they zoomed in on that box does imply that there is something or rather someone in that box that might be the cause of the next turn of events.


This episode was pretty good but the ending left things unanswered.
What will happen to the people from the village ones they arrive in that other city, since there covered in blood stains ad all.
And any investigation around the fire and the deaths will soon conclude that people have been killed which will make the village a crime scene.
And anyone covered in blood a suspect.

I have to say poor Megumi she was killed in a very cruel way, and all she wanted was to get away from that village.
Sunako came to the conclusion that she lived long enough.
And Natsuno didn't care about his life at all his way of killing himself and that other guy was brilliant.

About this anime.
I really loved it the build up was very nice but the ending could have been better.
The slow passed story line and blood where very enjoyable and nothing seemed rushed.
The art style was unique and nice to watch and especially the hairstyles looked awesome, the fire trucks seemed purple tho.
 
12-30-10, 2:26 PM

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that wasn't a preview at the end, but more of an epilogue. it felt weird since it was portrayed on such a small screen (i like it better when they take out the usual credit scenes for an epilogue but i guess no go on this one).

tatsumi has my respect for surviving for so long (but that other jinrou girl did get shot in the head so who knows)
 
12-30-10, 2:28 PM

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what the hell was this? I got ready for a "everyone dies" ending and instead THAT TINY BITCH SURVIVED WITH THE MONK. 0.1/10 Way to go Shiki that point you got from me is for the OST alone. Fuckin waste of time
 
12-30-10, 2:38 PM

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what the?! the BEARD has fallen!! can't believe that that OP dude got pwned by Muroi of all people or Shiki to be more precise..

and wow that was intense.. so as expected almost everyone gets killed in the end.. nice ending for a great series..

but is it really the ending ?? I still saw a preview in the ending credits..


 
12-30-10, 2:38 PM

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Frosti said:
Also what happened with the man that was hypnotized by the jinrou girl to kill Toshio?

A lot of people don't seem to understand that a lot of what happens in Shiki is not linear. That person was the same one that Ookawa mercilessly staked at the end of the previous episode.
 
12-30-10, 2:46 PM

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I would've been more satisfied had Sunako and Muroi died, but oh well.
Wasn't the best of endings, but still, one of my most enjoyed animes this year, loved it.
Natsuno pretty much pulled most of the strings here ROFL.
He set the fire right? I didn't think that was necessary, but still, proves how much he hated everything.
 
12-30-10, 2:52 PM

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I was disappointed at how insiginficant Megumi was; well actually her death was horrificly awesome but i wanted her to see Natsuno. Small complaint there.

As for the rest, everyone goes down in flames, the twins are saved, KA-BOOM! a good end.

What DirtyRoxanne might be saying about the rest of the show is that the part from the summer season was pretty dry. The friggin' summary on MAL tells us what it takes the characters 14 episodes to prove. There were some good scenes in that part but difintely not anything close to the last quarter we have watched.

ep. - (9/10)
 
12-30-10, 3:04 PM

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cool ending

I think the manga will be different but this was a good ending for the anime

no real victor

survivors on both sides (happy Ozaki,Kaori and Akira lived)

burn burn little
ashes ashes we all fall down
 
12-30-10, 3:07 PM

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Yokatta. I am not dissapointed with the ending.

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12-30-10, 3:12 PM

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So that is the end?
I don't really like, thou I don't hate it.
 
12-30-10, 3:16 PM

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when the ep finished i kept looking at the screen for 20 more seconds not realizing it was over...
hmm was okay, open ending pretty much, story took ages to like develop, weird vampire style... i prefer ones where they just, nvm doesnt matter, was entertaining overall,pretty interesting at some points
didnt get the ending really, wasnt paying much attention

there was a time solo playing....beautiful...cant think and trip to it at the same time
 
12-30-10, 3:19 PM

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SUNAKO WHY YOU NO DIE

ffff,Seishin´s buddhist principles went flying...

i almost felt bad for Megumi...almost...but then i was like:"YAY,CELEBRATION!"

Tatsumi was pissing me off to the last second of his life

Natsuno looking at dead Tohru...my heart is broken forever T__T

Kaori and Akira made it out alive...ANOTHER CELEBRATION
The same goes for Natsuno´s dad and Toshio

Old greek god man had to die...but he was right.So was Natsuno.

Village maybe burned down but that is not such a loss...

SHIKI WHY YOU NO HAS 50 EPISODES
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12-30-10, 3:27 PM

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Glad Seishin and Sunako survived (I always love being in the minority lol). I also wonder what Toshio is going to do now. I wish there was a second season. >_>

Random comment: I never cared for Natsuno's character, he was boring.

Megumi's death was freaking cruel. O__o She deserved it really, but still, it was crazy.

Overall, loved the anime, it had an amazing atmosphere, and I kind of enjoyed all the violence. XD


 
12-30-10, 3:29 PM

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I am sure it was Natsuno who set the fire, he hated the village just as much as Megumi did, and probably even more than he hated the Shikis. Ending would be alright if it wasn't for Sunako living through this. Even if she was right about "kill to survive" Ookawa in his last monologue stated exactly what she has done wrong, and this one speech IMO truly justified the rage and blood lust of the human side. Even if they became worse monsters than the Shikis were, it was Shikis who barged into their lives, then forcibly took them and give them new ones without asking anyone for their opinion.
 
12-30-10, 3:32 PM

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okthxbaii said:
STM said:
shizu_bara said:
am I the only person who really hates Natsuno? o_O"
..... and am I the only one that wished the shiki had 'won' in the end o_O"

I completely agree with you. If you're also a Sunako fan, then we're practically the same. :>


I hated Natsuno he was so arrogant. I just wanted to punch him in the face almost the entire time. I liked Muroi, but my favorite was DEFINATELY Megumi through the entire show.


You appear to be a Kirino lover, you're favorite character of the series was Megumi (Who was easily the most arrogant of them all) and you disliked Natsuno because of his arrogance? That just seems... So wrong :p

That guy died because of his sister in law. Hence why she was all blood stained later.


 
12-30-10, 3:35 PM

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I may be alone in this but I felt disappointed by the ending. It was too rushed :/


I was disappointed too.It ruined the anime for me :/ I had high hopes.
 
12-30-10, 3:36 PM

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Tatsumi... NOOO!

Otherwise, I am pleased.
 
12-30-10, 3:37 PM

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truly amazing ending! i wa on edge the whole time i was watching! i was sad that natsuno did wat he wat he did but i guess i understand.
TRULY AN AMAZING ENDING TO AN AMAZING ANIME!!!!
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12-30-10, 3:38 PM

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Dammit Junior Monk you kill the awesome old man to save the murderess vampire. You and the Murderess should of died. Everything else was fine but that just annoyed me.
 
12-30-10, 3:40 PM

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Oh and I forgot - I would love to see a 2nd (12 eps) season too. I can even imagine its base plot - Toshio becomes the outlaw shiki hunter and tries to hunt Sunako and Seishin down. Somewhere in the middle someone is starting to help him from the shadows, and it would later be revealed it was Natsuno who somehow survived his suicide mission and now is back to finish the deal. :)
 
12-30-10, 3:45 PM

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Such a sad ending. In the end nothing ultimately gets resolved and the village is burned down with so many deaths. Megumi ;__;

Speaking of which, what happened to Masao?

Overall, 10/10. Beautiful, engaging, one of best this year.
 
12-30-10, 4:04 PM

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Even if she was right about "kill to survive" Ookawa in his last monologue stated exactly what she has done wrong, and this one speech IMO truly justified the rage and blood lust of the human side.

The irony of course being that Ookawa was just as guilty of his accusations against Sunako as she is.

I loved how the anime never picked sides. It showed the good and bad of both sides. That's really hard to manage, so I have to credit Fuyumi Ono's skillful writing.

Not sure how you all are saying it's an open ending. Sotoba as we know it has been destroyed. I can't think of a more apt conclusion to a battle between the two species. They both wanted to live there and in the end, it was destroyed.
 
12-30-10, 4:09 PM

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That was sad, horrible, insane, awesome nothing more to say waiting for specials.
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12-30-10, 4:13 PM

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Waaa everything is burned. The irony of fate. Nice ending.

Sunako WTF!? She suddenly began to behave like a scared little girl? Damn she is a hundred year old vampire. I thought she will die but she managed to escape. Hmmm... I wonder how Seishin so quickly became a shiki? After all, it should last for several days.
Shimizu was killed and most importantly, very nasty. Haaa. Serves you right bitch. Maybe I'm cruel but she was evil.

Hope for the second season. This can't be the end.
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12-30-10, 4:14 PM

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I paused-played-paused the car scene and t was Moroi driving. So yeah.

Epic series. 10/10

Now I need to read the manga to see what happens next.
 
12-30-10, 4:16 PM

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I definitely was not very disappointed with the ending but it was without a doubt that some character like Sunako should've died. That was really bad with Muroi suddenly rise and made her escape. He should really just let her accept her fate and just die damn.. I would've liked you better there, Sunako! Megumi's death was really brutal. She deserves it as she is my most hated character yet, I felt for her and cried xD!

I wonder where the fire came from since it was never explained, which is a shame. It came so sudden it was really weird. And I also would like to know if everyone in the village died or not.

Overall though, it was still a alright ending and it kept me entertained. Definitely favourite anime of the year and best vampire anime have seen <3
 
12-30-10, 4:26 PM

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Wow, while I loved the series for the most part, this ending left me fairly disappointed. Some of the things that happened, shouldn't have, and some that didn't should've. I dunno, I just wasn't satisfied. IMO they rushed it. This would've played out better if this ep was split into two episodes or something. Maybe, maybe not. orz Either way I think that this ending was either a love it or hate it one. I have to say that it dropped my overall score for Shiki from a 9 to an 8 though. xD;

The whole Akira deal was way too rushed, I expected him to live, but I didn't expect it to be like that. xD Although I'm hoping the specials will help clear away the confusion.

The fact that Natsuno most likely died and Sunako most likely lived really did annoy me though TBH. I figured that he'd die because he'd stated that he wanted to, but the way that he died and Sunako didn't... She really should've died. xD It would've been better if she and Muroi had stayed and died in that church thing. Or chapel. whatever it was.
 
12-30-10, 4:28 PM

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Kanon-kun said:
Speaking of which, what happened to Masao?


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Pledge yourself to neither side, but vow instead to preserve the balance that exists between the two.”
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12-30-10, 4:35 PM

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Megumi's death was bullshit, I for one am sad that they gave her death while the other two bitches left the town safe and shit. Bull-shit ending.
 
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Either the preview I saw at the ending is leading to a special or MyAnimeList has it labeled incorrectly.
 
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Every human besides old beardy guy survives.
And all the Shiki besides Sunako survive. And Muroi....fail. -___-

Megumi died one of the most brutal deaths. o.o
Masao died! It was brief how they showed him die. VERY BRIEF.
 
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12-30-10, 4:45 PM

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Can someone please share where they watched the preview? My copy from CrunchySubs ended with the ED and credits, no preview.
 
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12-30-10, 4:55 PM

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silvermcv said:
ForlornHope said:
I may be alone in this but I felt disappointed by the ending. It was too rushed :/


I was disappointed too.It ruined the anime for me :/ I had high hopes.

Yeah I didn't like the actual End right at the end xD. Like someone before me said I just stared at the screen for 20 sec and I didn't understand that this was the actual end to it all...

And oh man I was so worried abot Sunako all of the time , I had the feeling that I'll yell "Leave her alone she's just a little girl" at the screen xD
 
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I am also disappointed with the fact that Sunako is still alive...since she was the person who started everything, and who knows, she might do the same thing again in the future....
As for that monk, I never really like him or dislike him, I guess it is his choice to choose to be a non-human, since he is so sick of his previous "life" and now, he can finally start a new life being a "werefore"...(but, I was a bit disappointed in him when he killed(indirectly)Ookawa..but then, Ookawa kind of killed his mother and his family too...well..I guess, it;s like a cycle..)

I do feel sad that Natsuno died thou, he really didn't deserve to die, since he never killed anyone against their will...(well, but then, this was what he wanted so...)
That being said, I also feel bad for Masao, since he never killed anyone too and was turned into a shiki againist his will( well, I never really liked him when he was still human, and I guess I liked him more when he was a shiki...)

As for Megumi's death , it was gross, but that's all, I didn't feel bad for her at all, since she kind of derserved it...
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I wonder how Senshin so quickly became a shiki? After all, it should last for several days.
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He didn't turn into a shiki, just like Natsuno, he turned into a "werewolf", and just like Natsuno , he didn't die and "woke up/raised" immediately(there was a flaskback showing Natsuno "woke up/raised" before the funeral people took him away)

and unlike many of the other members here, I am not that disappointed with the ending, I think it concludes most of things well :)
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Speaking of which, what happened to Masao?




 
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I thought that megumi shouldn't be kill in a cruel way but they had to ske of the anime. I am so glad that sunako didn't die. She is like the best charather ever!!!
 
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Last episode was pretty intense. Just seeing the rest of the characters die was pretty depressing.

Though I did not like her so much, I was expecting Natsuno or Kaori to kill Megumi, not some random villagers.

As for Sunako, since she got out of the suit case I was waiting for someone to kill her. I was pissed that Muroi (who use to be one of my favorite characters) killed that old guy to save her. He's such a hyprocrite. He wouldn't help Toshio (who was a good friend) because he didn't want to kill, but then when Sunako is in trouble he get's his hands dirty and persuades her to live (when she should be dead). That really pissed me off. If she lives I bet she will do the same thing all over again.

I wished they showed more of the fight between Natsuno and Tatsumi. I know it must have been hard to squeeze all these events in 20 minutes, but Natsuno was a pretty cool charater and it sucked that after he 'died,' he didn't get that much screen time. I bet Megumi never figured that he had risen up.

Overall this series was pretty good and I enjoyed it.
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I just have to say something after seeing the last episode.

man I LOVE SHIKI....I wonder who started the fire at Yamairi. I just love Natsuno's face when he stared at Tohru and Ritsu. Seemed like he was offering his last prayer for the people he loves. I have a feeling that Natsuno and Tatsumi are still alive, but oh well, they decided not to show it. Muroi has taken Tatsumi's place, he and Sunako might be pawning at another village after that. I'd always thought they were such a good pair.
After all that, Ozaki thinks of the whole incident as a game? Holy, how low can your mind get, doctor??

I love the last preview. Apparently Kaoru and Akira met Natsuno's father again. (So he's back and no longer mad?) And the woman whose mother came back... I wonder if her mother died again in the end.

I don't think Shiki needs a second season though. It's fine as it is. BUT the specials are going to be lovely <3 I hope Natsuno will be mentioned more.
 
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Satisfied with the ending even though it was cruel , Didn't really want Megumi to die and Natsuno though ):<
Making a 2nd season would be meanigless in a way.

 
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