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Dec 29, 2010 9:54 AM
#81
How come people hate this series? Is it because of the art? I've watched Kaiba months ago and the art is totally different from other anime just like this series. I enjoyed it from the first episode to the last. And most of my friends like it, too. Plus, I'm proud that my friends have good taste in anime! |
Dec 29, 2010 10:21 AM
#82
A2ZOMG said: Let me make it clear what makes humor good and bad. Good humor in comedy has to be relevant to the plot. And this is a primary reason why Panty and Stocking usually isn't funny. A huge quantity of the jokes and references have ZERO relevance to anything that happens in the plot. They basically come and go, and they might as well have not existed. Panty's Engrish profanity is the best example of this offense. It's bad humor, because it has nothing to do with anything that happens. It's just there because some crackhead on the staff thought it was a good idea. I really have to disagree here. Haven't finished P&S yet and don't find it especially funny at the moment, but this statement just isn't right. That definition about “good humor” might be your very own definition but it is definitely not the definition. If we go by your definition, every comedy series that has no plot whatsoever is automatically bad? Gintamas humor was most of the time totally not relevant to the plot and you could gone without them..but it won't be ranked 3rd if people don't find it funny. Most of the slice of life comedy out there don't have a plot...but this doesn't make them less funny. Again, this is your very own view why P&S is not funny for you. The humor just doesn't appeal to you. But there really is nothing wrong with P&S's humor... |
Dec 29, 2010 11:00 AM
#83
mljato said: You obviously don't understand. Watch Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei, a show that lacks a cohesive plot, but has a LEGIT sense of humor. The jokes in SZS have actual relevance to the events that transpire in the show.I really have to disagree here. Haven't finished P&S yet and don't find it especially funny at the moment, but this statement just isn't right. That definition about “good humor” might be your very own definition but it is definitely not the definition. If we go by your definition, every comedy series that has no plot whatsoever is automatically bad? Gintamas humor was most of the time totally not relevant to the plot and you could gone without them..but it won't be ranked 3rd if people don't find it funny. Most of the slice of life comedy out there don't have a plot...but this doesn't make them less funny. Again, this is your very own view why P&S is not funny for you. The humor just doesn't appeal to you. But there really is nothing wrong with P&S's humor... Comedy is not purely subjective, rather good comedy has mostly objective reasons as to why it is funny. |
Dec 29, 2010 11:13 AM
#84
Calm down kids. It's just an anime, an amusing one at that. |
Dec 29, 2010 11:28 AM
#85
Yes P&S is an anime, but is it amusing? Inconsistently. The jokes in P&S are legitimately not funny most of the time. Panty's Engrish swears are stupid and really don't have any point or relevance besides proving that this show is secretly oriented towards children or equally immature teenagers who absolutely have to laugh at swears. X random reference to other American rock bands that lasts for only 1 second? Again who gives a shit? It's not funny or creative. All P&S does most of the time is make a lot of random events, but there is a huge lack of relevant comedy to accompany it. All in all, it shows that Gainax was sorely lacking in creativity in the production of this show. A second season of this show would at best be an eyesore with that considered. |
Dec 29, 2010 11:28 AM
#86
animelly said: How come people hate this series? Is it because of the art? I've watched Kaiba months ago and the art is totally different from other anime just like this series. Pfft, I love the art. I also like the music too. I just don't think the series is that...funny. It's too LOL RANDUM XD for me. Mind you, I watched 8 episodes out of 13. I find all this arguing in this thread kind of silly though. |
Dec 29, 2010 11:43 AM
#87
A2ZOMG said: Good humor in comedy has to be relevant to the plot. A2ZOMG said: Watch Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei, a show that lacks a cohesive plot, but has a LEGIT sense of humor. Doesn't this sound contradicting to you? But lets pretend this was just a mistake in phrasing. You are again taking your very own subjective view on what comedy should be and force it onto people. Too bad I quite liked the first season of Sayonara Zesubo Sensei so I can't argue here. But I liked it because I liked the humor, not because of some obscure measurement units on what is funny and what not. A2ZOMG said: Comedy is not purely subjective, rather good comedy has mostly objective reasons as to why it is funny. No, there aren't. Really, there are few things, that are more subjective than an individual's sense of humor. Objectivity means, independent from the observer and free from any emotional influences. Both goes fundamentally against the very meaning of humor. |
Dec 29, 2010 11:49 AM
#88
Dec 29, 2010 12:07 PM
#89
A2ZOMG said: The jokes in P&S are legitimately not funny most of the time. Really? Sure it's crude and lowbrow, but I appreciated the sincerity and the ridiculous aspect of it all. And why does every joke have to be relevant to an almost nonexistent plot? The synopsis is given obviously, but the show relies primarily on their day to day life on earth, collecting those heaven coins. I think you're looking for something that isn't even in the show, consistency was not part of P&S's goal. |
Dec 29, 2010 1:56 PM
#90
mljato said: The point is that Sayanara Zetsubo Sensei has jokes that are intelligent. One of the key influencing factors in the intelligence of a joke is in fact how relevant the jokes are to the other events of the comedy.But lets pretend this was just a mistake in phrasing. You are again taking your very own subjective view on what comedy should be and force it onto people. Too bad I quite liked the first season of Sayonara Zesubo Sensei so I can't argue here. But I liked it because I liked the humor, not because of some obscure measurement units on what is funny and what not. No, there aren't. Really, there are few things, that are more subjective than an individual's sense of humor. Objectivity means, independent from the observer and free from any emotional influences. Both goes fundamentally against the very meaning of humor. The subjectivity of humor is merely the understanding and appreciation for humor, or lack of it, and human understanding and intelligence is what ACTUALLY varies from person to person. This doesn't change the fact that there are clearly jokes that are good, and jokes that are bad.Hias said: That's a bull argument. Every show has to be consistent at something, otherwise it's pointless and not entertainment. It doesn't matter how much you're trying to troll people. There has to be a consistent point to entertainment.Really? Sure it's crude and lowbrow, but I appreciated the sincerity and the ridiculous aspect of it all. And why does every joke have to be relevant to an almost nonexistent plot? The synopsis is given obviously, but the show relies primarily on their day to day life on earth, collecting those heaven coins. I think you're looking for something that isn't even in the show, consistency was not part of P&S's goal. And yes, jokes have to be relevant to even your non-existent plot be good. Otherwise they are pointless and mindless gags, and nothing more. The level of maturity you need to laugh at a gag like Panty's Engrish profanity is pretty much comparable to that of a child or equally immature teenager. It's not creative or actually funny. It's just stupid. And similarly the gazillions of reference to pop culture. What is the point of them? They don't mean anything in the shenanigans that Panty and Stocking involve themselves in, and they might as well not exist, since the overall effect is the same without them. This is unlike Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei, where a chain of stalkers is in fact very much relevant to a misunderstanding that happened between characters. Yes it's totally random, but it has actual relevance, and thus a basis for being funny. Panty and Stocking pretty much just makes events that often lack relevant humor. There isn't an intelligent basis for finding it funny. It's just a statement that the show is secretly oriented towards children or equally immature teenagers. |
A2ZOMGDec 29, 2010 2:05 PM
Dec 29, 2010 2:33 PM
#91
Dec 29, 2010 2:56 PM
#92
A2ZOMG said: The point is that Sayanara Zetsubo Sensei has jokes that are intelligent. One of the key influencing factors in the intelligence of a joke is in fact how relevant the jokes are to the other events of the comedy. Why? If you're making clearly subjective statements that you want people to take as fact, you must provide solid reasoning as to why they're facts. A2ZOMG said: The subjectivity of humor is merely the understanding and appreciation for humor, or lack of it, and human understanding and intelligence is what ACTUALLY varies from person to person. This doesn't change the fact that there are clearly jokes that are good, and jokes that are bad. There are jokes that are well-delivered and jokes that aren't well-delivered. That's all there is to it. Just like there isn't something like an inherently good story or an inherently good character, there isn't something like an inherently good joke. In any work of art, content is only as good as the execution. A2ZOMG said: That's a bull argument. Every show has to be consistent at something, otherwise it's pointless and not entertainment. There has to be a consistent point to entertainment. Everything has to adhere to the exact same rules and try to entretain people in the exact same way? A2ZOMG said: And yes, jokes have to be relevant to even your non-existent plot be good. Otherwise they are pointless and mindless gags, and nothing more. The appeal is the execution, the stylistic aesthetics used to make the show come to life. A2ZOMG said: The level of maturity you need to laugh at a gag like Panty's Engrish profanity is pretty much comparable to that of a child or equally immature teenager. Panty's abuse of Engrish profanity isn't a gag, it's a character trait. A2ZOMG said: And similarly the gazillions of reference to pop culture. What is the point of them? There isn't any. The staff is just having fun and trying to communicate their fun to the audience. The enjoyment comes from how thorough they are in their references and quotations. Unlike SZS's barely similar, shoddily drawn "refereces", that range from Code Geass to Eureka Seven, PanSto's references are drawn with as much care as everything else in the show. A2ZOMG said: They don't mean anything in the shenanigans that Panty and Stocking involve themselves in, and they might as well not exist, since the overall effect is the same without them. It's about the journey, not about the destination. A2ZOMG said: Panty and Stocking pretty much just makes events that often lack relevant humor. There isn't an intelligent basis for finding it funny. The energetic, relentless performance of every single element in the show. |
Dec 29, 2010 3:45 PM
#93
A2ZOMG said: mljato said: The point is that Sayanara Zetsubo Sensei has jokes that are intelligent. One of the key influencing factors in the intelligence of a joke is in fact how relevant the jokes are to the other events of the comedy.But lets pretend this was just a mistake in phrasing. You are again taking your very own subjective view on what comedy should be and force it onto people. Too bad I quite liked the first season of Sayonara Zesubo Sensei so I can't argue here. But I liked it because I liked the humor, not because of some obscure measurement units on what is funny and what not. No, there aren't. Really, there are few things, that are more subjective than an individual's sense of humor. Objectivity means, independent from the observer and free from any emotional influences. Both goes fundamentally against the very meaning of humor. The subjectivity of humor is merely the understanding and appreciation for humor, or lack of it, and human understanding and intelligence is what ACTUALLY varies from person to person. This doesn't change the fact that there are clearly jokes that are good, and jokes that are bad.Hias said: That's a bull argument. Every show has to be consistent at something, otherwise it's pointless and not entertainment. It doesn't matter how much you're trying to troll people. There has to be a consistent point to entertainment.Really? Sure it's crude and lowbrow, but I appreciated the sincerity and the ridiculous aspect of it all. And why does every joke have to be relevant to an almost nonexistent plot? The synopsis is given obviously, but the show relies primarily on their day to day life on earth, collecting those heaven coins. I think you're looking for something that isn't even in the show, consistency was not part of P&S's goal. And yes, jokes have to be relevant to even your non-existent plot be good. Otherwise they are pointless and mindless gags, and nothing more. The level of maturity you need to laugh at a gag like Panty's Engrish profanity is pretty much comparable to that of a child or equally immature teenager. It's not creative or actually funny. It's just stupid. And similarly the gazillions of reference to pop culture. What is the point of them? They don't mean anything in the shenanigans that Panty and Stocking involve themselves in, and they might as well not exist, since the overall effect is the same without them. This is unlike Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei, where a chain of stalkers is in fact very much relevant to a misunderstanding that happened between characters. Yes it's totally random, but it has actual relevance, and thus a basis for being funny. Panty and Stocking pretty much just makes events that often lack relevant humor. There isn't an intelligent basis for finding it funny. It's just a statement that the show is secretly oriented towards children or equally immature teenagers. You are giving too much credit to SZS. Granted, some jokes were intelligent and helped driving the characters, but SZS also had a great amount of totally flat, not funny, irrelevant, juvenile, repetitive jokes. See what I did there? I expressed a totally subjective opinion about humor. Some jokes you might find intelligent while I perceive them as totally dull...and no objective measurement woud prove either of us right or wrong. And also...good humor needs to be intelligent to be good? This kind of contradicts your own list. I found the first 3 episodes of Sora no Otoshimono painfully unfunny because stupid and dropped it...you rated it 10. Who is right? Or lets talk about a show we both finished and liked. Seitokai Yakuindomo. I loved that show for its sheer amount of juvenile humor, its incorrectness and its balls...but surely not because of its intelligence. If you are saying intelligence alone makes a good joke, then you are disregarding all the unintelligent things that are funny. If only intelligent jokes are funny, the world would be a boring place. to the next person barging in, telling us to stop the argument, note: this is not an argument, its a discussion. You don't have to read it; you can move on and enrich this thread with your “Yay” or “Boo” comment instead. |
Dec 29, 2010 5:16 PM
#94
mljato said: What few unfunny jokes SZS does have are irrelevant both to this discussion, and most likely irrelevant to what actually happens in the show.You are giving too much credit to SZS. Granted, some jokes were intelligent and helped driving the characters, but SZS also had a great amount of totally flat, not funny, irrelevant, juvenile, repetitive jokes. See what I did there? I expressed a totally subjective opinion about humor. Some jokes you might find intelligent while I perceive them as totally dull...and no objective measurement woud prove either of us right or wrong. And also...good humor needs to be intelligent to be good? This kind of contradicts your own list. I found the first 3 episodes of Sora no Otoshimono painfully unfunny because stupid and dropped it...you rated it 10. Who is right? Yes, good humor is intelligent.Or lets talk about a show we both finished and liked. Seitokai Yakuindomo. I loved that show for its sheer amount of juvenile humor, its incorrectness and its balls...but surely not because of its intelligence. Sora no Otoshimono has some of the most intelligent humor of its genre, complete with original concepts that the show does a great job of diving in depth to. And I rated it a 9 for your information. It wasn't always as good as I wanted it to be, but it was exceptional when it was good. And it was also complete with a pretty solid story and cast of characters in spite of its supposed genre. Seitokai Yakuindomo actually has very intelligent and brilliant humor. What you have to realize in context is that what is being made fun of, aka teenage girl perceptions of guys, is what actually exists in real life. It's actually a shame you didn't realize that yourself. If you are saying intelligence alone makes a good joke, then you are disregarding all the unintelligent things that are funny. If only intelligent jokes are funny, the world would be a boring place. It's not just the "intelligence". The joke has to be relevant to the situation. |
Dec 29, 2010 9:28 PM
#95
A2ZOMG said: That's a bull argument. Every show has to be consistent at something, otherwise it's pointless and not entertainment. It doesn't matter how much you're trying to troll people. There has to be a consistent point to entertainment. Says who? I don't recall you being the all knowing judge of what's funny and what's not. You go on about needing consistency in a show, when that's really not the point of this one. |
Dec 30, 2010 2:17 AM
#96
If you can tell me there is a point to P&S, that is a consistency whether you like to call it that or not. A show without a point or consistent area of focus isn't entertainment. However what is in fact true about Panty and Stocking is they pretty much do a lot of nothing several episodes. They just throw events at you that aren't funny, intelligent, or redeeming stories. They try to do a lot of things, but fail to do any of them with any quality consistency many times. The main thing that is consistent about P&S is that they are crude, but South Park is a much better example of a crude show that is successful with many episodes that feature by far much better humor than what P&S has to offer. P&S is average entertainment at best. Only a few of the mini plots they come up with actually are original and creative and more than just a heap of bad random plot and characters. The last thing they are consistent with is production quality, which is pretty good. Besides that, P&S fails as a story, and generally produces mediocre comedy that really doesn't have a point most of the time. Anyhow, it's BLATANTLY obvious that Gainax was grasping at straws for good ideas, given that they only had a few ideas that could be considered good in the span of 13 episodes. More of the show was tasteless jokes and references with no relevance to the events that transpired. A second season from this show will inevitably be far worse than the first season, which at best struggled to be original. |
A2ZOMGDec 30, 2010 2:24 AM
Dec 30, 2010 3:26 AM
#97
A2ZOMG said: Sora no Otoshimono has some of the most intelligent humor of its genre, complete with original concepts that the show does a great job of diving in depth to. And I rated it a 9 for your information. It wasn't always as good as I wanted it to be, but it was exceptional when it was good. And it was also complete with a pretty solid story and cast of characters in spite of its supposed genre. Seitokai Yakuindomo actually has very intelligent and brilliant humor. What you have to realize in context is that what is being made fun of, aka teenage girl perceptions of guys, is what actually exists in real life. It's actually a shame you didn't realize that yourself. This is going in circles, so I'll keep it short. I am telling you that I found the first 3 episodes of Sora no Otoshimono to be utterly stupid, unintelligent and unimaginative. If you perceive otherwise, good for you, that's your right. If people think P&S is brilliant executed and hilarious, it's also their right and you have no objective way to prove it wrong. All the negative points you have named till now are purely subjective and only mirrors your own view. Same goes for your reasoning why Seitokai is actually intelligent. It's your own view and its fine but it doesn't make sense to me. You know, I am not arguing about your view, I am arguing about how you think your view is some kind of universal truth. |
Dec 30, 2010 4:19 AM
#98
A2ZOMG said: P&S is average entertainment at best. A second season from this show will inevitably be far worse than the first season, which at best struggled to be original. duh give it a rest Panty and Stocking score is not that groundbreaking like 9+ so why the heck your preaching and predicting that the second season will suck? if they make a second season its because its business as usual for them as its profitable so if GAINAX fail on second season then let them right? i read your post(s) as though your commanding GAINAX to stop making second season for this show and thats just silly and besides lots of mediocre/average shows gets a second season and you know it so why dictate GAINAX to stop making second season? even bleach and naruto shippuden are more facking bad because of the fillers and drop of animation quality and very slow story pacing than this show but look at it they are still being made why? because people like it its profitable thats all if you want anime that are more intelligent then your free to watch those so to be fair give freedom to people that do like this show too because if you havent notice your indirectly dictating the preference of others with your taste dude its ok to voice your hate or opinion but if its too much already like here you got like 5+ reply about this thats just forcing your logic to others thats not how it works man |
Dec 30, 2010 3:55 PM
#100
mljato said: If anime was as subjective as you claimed it was, practically all shows would have basically the same rating, since everyone on the planet has different genre preferences and irrational reasons for liking something. There wouldn't be classics that are universally acknowledged to be amazing since after all, you claim that good quality is subjective.This is going in circles, so I'll keep it short. I am telling you that I found the first 3 episodes of Sora no Otoshimono to be utterly stupid, unintelligent and unimaginative. If you perceive otherwise, good for you, that's your right. If people think P&S is brilliant executed and hilarious, it's also their right and you have no objective way to prove it wrong. All the negative points you have named till now are purely subjective and only mirrors your own view. Same goes for your reasoning why Seitokai is actually intelligent. It's your own view and its fine but it doesn't make sense to me. You know, I am not arguing about your view, I am arguing about how you think your view is some kind of universal truth. The truth of the matter is it's not nearly as subjective as you think it is. There are devices that people universally appreciate, and thus rate shows higher for. People however are entitled to be stupid and ignorant of existing superior entertainment for every genre. That is what actually creates subjectivity, it's not that the quality of a show is largely subjective. And the same goes for humor, which is the culprit behind why many people disagree about P&S. The people who dislike this show focus on the fact that the humor is in fact usually terrible, stupid, and usually irrelevant to the plot. The people who like this show are either Gainax fanboys or only focusing on the few times the show actually does produce something original. Anyhow my original argument is that good humor is intelligent and relevant to the events in the story. In practically any comedy show or act that I can think of, all the jokes that people appreciate the most are ALWAYS relevant to a series of events that happens as the joke is being told. It can be random, but the joke itself has to be relevant to the events that transpire. P&S doesn't do that most of the time. They just throw events at you, and expect you'll have the maturity of a preteen so that you'll laugh at it. Most of the jokes or references they try to make just don't have relevance to the events that transpire. It's the reason why there is a large number of people who don't like the show. If the humor in P&S actually was good, like it is in many other superior comedy shows, you probably wouldn't even see replies in the episode discussion complaining about the show being terrible, or they would at least be extremely uncommon, which they aren't in P&S. Of course, there's always going to be people who are stupid or ignorant who don't really have reasons to back liking something. I'm fine with that, but it doesn't change that universally, the reasons entertainment can be good are actually devices that can be backed and argued objectively. |
Dec 30, 2010 5:27 PM
#102
A2ZOMG said: If anime was as subjective as you claimed it was, practically all shows would have basically the same rating, since everyone on the planet has different genre preferences and irrational reasons for liking something. There wouldn't be classics that are universally acknowledged to be amazing since after all, you claim that good quality is subjective. The truth of the matter is it's not nearly as subjective as you think it is. There are devices that people universally appreciate, and thus rate shows higher for. People however are entitled to be stupid and ignorant of existing superior entertainment for every genre. That is what actually creates subjectivity, it's not that the quality of a show is largely subjective. And the same goes for humor, which is the culprit behind why many people disagree about P&S. The people who dislike this show focus on the fact that the humor is in fact usually terrible, stupid, and usually irrelevant to the plot. The people who like this show are either Gainax fanboys or only focusing on the few times the show actually does produce something original. Anyhow my original argument is that good humor is intelligent and relevant to the events in the story. In practically any comedy show or act that I can think of, all the jokes that people appreciate the most are ALWAYS relevant to a series of events that happens as the joke is being told. It can be random, but the joke itself has to be relevant to the events that transpire. P&S doesn't do that most of the time. They just throw events at you, and expect you'll have the maturity of a preteen so that you'll laugh at it. Most of the jokes or references they try to make just don't have relevance to the events that transpire. It's the reason why there is a large number of people who don't like the show. If the humor in P&S actually was good, like it is in many other superior comedy shows, you probably wouldn't even see replies in the episode discussion complaining about the show being terrible, or they would at least be extremely uncommon, which they aren't in P&S. Of course, there's always going to be people who are stupid or ignorant who don't really have reasons to back liking something. I'm fine with that, but it doesn't change that universally, the reasons entertainment can be good are actually devices that can be backed and argued objectively. You're still at it, seriously? In bold, I have pointed the most obviously ridiculous parts of your argument. You disregard the meaning of 'subjective', insist that good humour is only intelligent (I swear, you've never seen stand-up), and insist that the only people that like such shows are 'stupid', 'ignorant' and 'fanboys'. In your argument touting "they have no way to back up their view of the show", you simultaneously don't back up your argument with anything relevant other than 'the fans are stupid and ignorant'. Talk about irony. |
Dec 31, 2010 10:53 AM
#103
I love these arguments over good humor. Especially when we have successful shows like Family Guy that got famous and popular using almost nothing but jokes that have no relevance to the plot. If humor had to always be in good taste shows like AFV wouldn't exist or would fail due to bad ratings. I'll admit I don't like this show, however these fights are pretty pointless. Its all up to what you like or what you don't like. Some shows can appeal to a wider audience than others. Perhaps this show is bad and the humor is lacking, doesn't mean there aren't people who enjoy the hell out of it and find it funny themselves. |
Dec 31, 2010 6:55 PM
#104
I find it funny how long people are arguing about this to be honest, i love his show mainly because it's so different than the usual cookie cutter anime we see nowadays not that those kind of shows are bad, it's just that panty and stocking isn't afraid to step out of the box a bit it's weird how such disgusiting shows as family guy and robot chicken can get away with dirty humor and random ideas but Pand S cant??? T_T seriously, if you don't like the show, don't annoy people with your hate. |
Dec 31, 2010 10:43 PM
#105
Would be great to have a 2nd season just because of the cliff hanger on the last episode...I want to see what is going to happen. But in all honesty, Panty and Stocking really don't need a 2nd season. There are sooooo many better anime shows that deserve another season more than them. What ever happens, happens. I will be happy either way. (: |
Jan 1, 2011 5:08 PM
#106
I could use a 2nd season since this was my(!) most awesome anime for Fall Season... I don't remember any other anime that I waited with this much excitement... Not even Sora no Otoshimono Forte and to be honest I just wanted to see "I'd peek" scene in animation since I already follow the manga and know what's happening. I(!) don't care about the other animes that deserves a 2nd season more than this... I really want a 2nd season, in my opinion(!) this show deserves it. But then again, it doesn't mean that it will, I(!) just think it deserves it... I(!) really liked the OST too since it was very different from what you get with normal animes... And with the 2nd season we would get another "D City Rock" like music or that's what I think... Still, this is Gainax we are talking about... I just hope that it gets a 2nd season... If you're going to hate-post me... Please read the parts that has exclamation marks... Now if you excuse me... |
Jan 2, 2011 10:51 PM
#107
otaku_cutie997 said: I find it funny how long people are arguing about this to be honest, i love his show mainly because it's so different than the usual cookie cutter anime we see nowadays not that those kind of shows are bad, it's just that panty and stocking isn't afraid to step out of the box a bit it's weird how such disgusiting shows as family guy and robot chicken can get away with dirty humor and random ideas but Pand S cant??? T_T seriously, if you don't like the show, don't annoy people with your hate. I agree with this 100%. If TV shows like Family Guy and Robot Chicken can get away with the jokes and parodies they make, why not Panty and Stocking lol. Also, the arguements i'm seeing here are just full of lolz. Thus, tl;dr. |
Jan 4, 2011 10:42 AM
#108
Jan 4, 2011 3:17 PM
#109
Do not want :O |
Jan 7, 2011 9:24 AM
#110
http://gainax.co.jp/ Confirmed. |
Jan 7, 2011 10:31 AM
#111
What the hell is wrong with MyAnimeList.net some messages do not appear. All indicates that there will be second season after all. |
DurackJan 7, 2011 10:49 AM
Jan 7, 2011 6:23 PM
#112
ShiroiRyu said: http://gainax.co.jp/ Confirmed. Damn that's a slick pic |
Jan 7, 2011 6:38 PM
#113
Oh Jesus Christ, haters, if a 2nd season comes out it's not like you have to watch it. Quit whining. |
Jan 9, 2011 3:28 PM
#114
ShiroiRyu said: http://gainax.co.jp/ Confirmed. That's still not confirmed. It's a teaser for something, but it certainly doesn't look like a second season (more like a movie). |
Jan 9, 2011 9:59 PM
#115
Well considering that it was 9th in pre-order sales at the beginning of the season and then 25th in sales when the blu-ray came out in Japan. On top of it not being well received in Japan at all. Apparently America loves it. made the top on Amazon in sales. But I can't remember an anime in the last 10 years that got a second season just because America liked it. Knowing Gainax they will probably just make some terrible recap movie that only changes 15 seconds of it. |
JigeroJan 9, 2011 10:06 PM
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
Jan 14, 2011 1:33 AM
#116
I loved Panty and Stocking. It was a crazy fun ride if you didn't take it seriously and yeah, AZ2OMG or whatever his name does a point about the situational humor. I'd love a season 2. In fact, Id like to see Gainax develop on what the show lacked, or even bridge the gap between those who hate the show like an angry bear and those who kiss it's ass (like they did with those email screenshots in End of Evangelion). |
MitaKnightJan 14, 2011 1:40 AM
Jan 14, 2011 10:59 AM
#117
I can't remember any other series in recent years (!) that filled me with so much disgust and dislike. And not because the show featured shit, vomit and who-knows-what-else, but because how stupid and retarted it was and how much it thought it was a good show. I have to give it some credit though, there were like two scenes in those 13 episodes which I thought were not totally god-awful but just disastrous. Anyone how actually likes this show should get punched in the face for liking anything from Gainax even if it's the an abomination. And the writers of this show seem to people who are new at telling jokes. Otherwise they would have managed to put at least one acceptable into their show. And the producers should get arrested for all the time and money they wasted. Just think of all the animators who had to draw this utter mess. What a waste of their lifetime! |
Jan 18, 2011 7:35 AM
#118
tempo_plus said: lol u mad? panty and stocking was mindblowingly goodI can't remember any other series in recent years (!) that filled me with so much disgust and dislike. And not because the show featured shit, vomit and who-knows-what-else, but because how stupid and retarted it was and how much it thought it was a good show. I have to give it some credit though, there were like two scenes in those 13 episodes which I thought were not totally god-awful but just disastrous. Anyone how actually likes this show should get punched in the face for liking anything from Gainax even if it's the an abomination. And the writers of this show seem to people who are new at telling jokes. Otherwise they would have managed to put at least one acceptable into their show. And the producers should get arrested for all the time and money they wasted. Just think of all the animators who had to draw this utter mess. What a waste of their lifetime! |
Jan 18, 2011 9:54 AM
#119
tempo_plus said: I can't remember any other series in recent years (!) that filled me with so much disgust and dislike. And not because the show featured shit, vomit and who-knows-what-else, but because how stupid and retarted it was and how much it thought it was a good show. I have to give it some credit though, there were like two scenes in those 13 episodes which I thought were not totally god-awful but just disastrous. Anyone how actually likes this show should get punched in the face for liking anything from Gainax even if it's the an abomination. And the writers of this show seem to people who are new at telling jokes. Otherwise they would have managed to put at least one acceptable into their show. And the producers should get arrested for all the time and money they wasted. Just think of all the animators who had to draw this utter mess. What a waste of their lifetime! So, if you don't like it, everybody who does should get "punched in the face"? that's some great logic you got in there. GROW UP, the world doesn't resolve around your likes and dislikes. |
Jan 18, 2011 9:58 AM
#120
Gainax did it again with the series. Next season, NAO! |
Jan 22, 2011 1:31 PM
#121
I actually liked this series, but I don't think I have the nerves for another season, let it die. |
Jan 22, 2011 8:23 PM
#122
tempo_plus said: I can't remember any other series in recent years (!) that filled me with so much disgust and dislike. And not because the show featured shit, vomit and who-knows-what-else, but because how stupid and retarted it was and how much it thought it was a good show. I have to give it some credit though, there were like two scenes in those 13 episodes which I thought were not totally god-awful but just disastrous. Anyone how actually likes this show should get punched in the face for liking anything from Gainax even if it's the an abomination. And the writers of this show seem to people who are new at telling jokes. Otherwise they would have managed to put at least one acceptable into their show. And the producers should get arrested for all the time and money they wasted. Just think of all the animators who had to draw this utter mess. What a waste of their lifetime! Would you like some cheese with your wine? You're going to be fucked in the real world if you're so judgmental about others lives. |
Jan 27, 2011 11:58 AM
#123
Jan 30, 2011 2:56 AM
#124
Don't know why some people hate this so much. Also don't understand why some people prety much want to have sex with Gainax. Great anime (for me). Incredibly enjoyable (for me). Though I like american stuff as well. If you think that america can only produce shitty things, and that anime shouldn't touch america's shitty style, then stop bein a flamin fuck. Personally, I don't know what could really come from a 2nd season, but I guess thats what the writers are for. Hopefully it'll be good, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it wasn't. |
Feb 1, 2011 2:32 PM
#125
AntiSpiral said: I'm pretty sure there will be a season 2. You really can't just end a series outright saying you'll make more and then not do so. The only way a studio would ever do that is if they wanted to but then later found out there was no way they could make it. So unless Gainax falls into financial trouble, then we can assume we'll get a season 2. Also, why on earth are some people in this thread hoping it doesn't get a season 2? You have to be elitist, entitled child to think a series shouldn't go on further because you personally don't enjoy it. You obviously forget about what a huge troll GAINAX is. I doubt there will be a second season. They're going to watch us lose our shit, and trololololol for years to come. |
Feb 6, 2011 11:20 PM
#126
RenIkuhara said: You obviously forget about what a huge troll GAINAX is. I doubt there will be a second season. They're going to watch us lose our shit, and trololololol for years to come. Since when were Gainax 'trolls'? Please explain. If it's mainly about P&S's ending, I found that to be more of a playful jab at the 'Gainax ending' trope that they acquired because of their issues with NGE. |
Feb 7, 2011 9:07 AM
#127
Hias said: RenIkuhara said: You obviously forget about what a huge troll GAINAX is. I doubt there will be a second season. They're going to watch us lose our shit, and trololololol for years to come. Since when were Gainax 'trolls'? Please explain. If it's mainly about P&S's ending, I found that to be more of a playful jab at the 'Gainax ending' trope that they acquired because of their issues with NGE. Shh you're ruining it for me. Don't tell them they didn't get trolled. Since technically trolling isn't punking and Gainax punked us not trolled us. Say what. |
Feb 17, 2011 4:45 PM
#128
Sabinlerose said: tempo_plus said: I can't remember any other series in recent years (!) that filled me with so much disgust and dislike. And not because the show featured shit, vomit and who-knows-what-else, but because how stupid and retarted it was and how much it thought it was a good show. I have to give it some credit though, there were like two scenes in those 13 episodes which I thought were not totally god-awful but just disastrous. Anyone how actually likes this show should get punched in the face for liking anything from Gainax even if it's the an abomination. And the writers of this show seem to people who are new at telling jokes. Otherwise they would have managed to put at least one acceptable into their show. And the producers should get arrested for all the time and money they wasted. Just think of all the animators who had to draw this utter mess. What a waste of their lifetime! Would you like some cheese with your wine? You're going to be fucked in the real world if you're so judgmental about others lives. sry, for this late post, but I noticed your answer just right now now: Maybe I wrote something that was misunderstood. This sounds maybe a little arrogant but I consider myself as a old-school Gainax fan. And with old-School, I mean I'm a fan of all the Gainax shows and movies prior to and including NGE. All of these shows involved the exploration of round and believable characters while featuring awesome sci-fi elements accompanied by a great orchestrated Soundtrack. To produce these shows they had to put a lot of time and effort into them. And that's the reason why I, and A LOT of other people loved all of their shows, no matter how controversial they were. Fast-forward to today. Are ANY of these compenents in the recent works of Gainax? No, they aren't. Especially in Panty & Socking. Is there anything left what Gainax made so great (in my opinion at least) back in the day? No, there isn't. Are people still buying their products, altough their new shows lack (in my eyes) of any their previous efforts? Yes. And this is the point which pisses me extremely off. Their shows totally suck compared to their old work but people still talk about it as if they are masterpieces just because it's from Gainax. And exactly these people piss me off, because they let Gainax get away with their heinous new shows. If these people wouldn't buy and support Gainax and their "let's produce any crap we want since everybody is going to buy it anyway because we're freaking Gainax" attitude, those producers would be forced to actuallay put some effort into their shows. And that's why I used such an expression as "punch in the face". But you're right, I stepped out of line there, that was inappropriate. I guess I was tired that day and I didn't feel like it to explain in great detail why I was so against these people. But on the bright side, it got your attention! And the morale of the story: Acting like an asshole gets you farther...but you need to excuse yourself later...or something like that.... What the hell did you mean with if I wanted cheese with my wine? I didn't get that. |
tempo_plusFeb 17, 2011 4:57 PM
Feb 17, 2011 4:48 PM
#129
If there was a second season, I'd watch it. |
Feb 18, 2011 1:35 AM
#130
tempo_plus said: sry, for this late post, but I noticed your answer just right now now: Maybe I wrote something that was misunderstood. This sounds maybe a little arrogant but I consider myself as a old-school Gainax fan. And with old-School, I mean I'm a fan of all the Gainax shows and movies prior to and including NGE. All of these shows involved the exploration of round and believable characters while featuring awesome sci-fi elements accompanied by a great orchestrated Soundtrack. To produce these shows they had to put a lot of time and effort into them. And that's the reason why I, and A LOT of other people loved all of their shows, no matter how controversial they were. Fast-forward to today. Are ANY of these compenents in the recent works of Gainax? No, they aren't. Especially in Panty & Socking. Is there anything left what Gainax made so great (in my opinion at least) back in the day? No, there isn't. Are people still buying their products, altough their new shows lack (in my eyes) of any their previous efforts? Yes. And this is the point which pisses me extremely off. Their shows totally suck compared to their old work but people still talk about it as if they are masterpieces just because it's from Gainax. And exactly these people piss me off, because they let Gainax get away with their heinous new shows. If these people wouldn't buy and support Gainax and their "let's produce any crap we want since everybody is going to buy it anyway because we're freaking Gainax" attitude, those producers would be forced to actuallay put some effort into their shows. I can see where you're coming from with nostalgia of early Gainax works. I can't argue with that. But there are people who enjoy later Gainax productions not merely because they're made by Gainax. People simply have different definitions of what constitutes a good show, whether you like it or not. I for one wouldn't rant on and on about why certain moeblob shows are so popular, because people have legitimate reasons for liking them, even if some of them are borderline silly. tempo_plus said: And that's why I used such an expression as "punch in the face". But you're right, I stepped out of line there, that was inappropriate. I guess I was tired that day and I didn't feel like it to explain in great detail why I was so against these people. But on the bright side, it got your attention! And the morale of the story: Acting like an asshole gets you farther...but you need to excuse yourself later...or something like that.... At least you admitted the mistake in the last post. We can move on with this then. |
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