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Dec 29, 2010 4:28 PM

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b) and probably most importantly, NOT being an Ecchi anime. Argue with me as much as you like, any substandard ecchi show will sell more than an overall decent anime like Otome Youkai Zakuro.


I wouldn't call that a drawback, but I do agree it won't help it sell.


It is sad that on other forums the discussion about this show was more about the lack of jiggle-wiggle and panty shots than the characters and plot. It would have been out of place in the setting imo, and frankly that content is more than abundantly displayed in many other shows.

It was a nice little series and I enjoyed it.


Thank GOD there wasn't any "jiggle-wiggling and panty/boob/bra shots". I'm fed up of anime production companies who have this belief that every single person enjoys the fanservice. Sometimes I feel as though they forgot that their audience isn't only comprised of male viewers. I see less and less shows catered to girls...I mean, why no "boxer shots"??? why no handsome male "flexing his stuff"??? lol but seriously, less/no ecchi equals more enjoyment!
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Dec 29, 2010 4:30 PM

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Yeah, I was kind of surprised that they had that for this show. If they're going to do something like that it makes you they had something more planned.

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and probably most importantly, NOT being an Ecchi anime. Argue with me as much as you like, any substandard ecchi show will sell more than an overall decent anime like Otome Youkai Zakuro.

Sad and true. I don't know why ecchi is so popular... Well I do, but I'd rather not. =
 
Dec 29, 2010 6:36 PM

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That was a good ending to a very good show. One of the most underestimated by myself and its worth a 10/10 in my book just being that under the radar. :D --- Randy
 
Dec 29, 2010 8:40 PM

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I said:

b) and probably most importantly, NOT being an Ecchi anime. Argue with me as much as you like, any substandard ecchi show will sell more than an overall decent anime like Otome Youkai Zakuro.

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GarLogan78 said:
I wouldn't call that a drawback, but I do agree it won't help it sell.

Wrong use of word. I see what you wanted to say. Makes sense.

SerasAshley said:
It is sad that on other forums the discussion about this show was more about the lack of jiggle-wiggle and panty shots than the characters and plot. It would have been out of place in the setting imo, and frankly that content is more than abundantly displayed in many other shows.

Thats the thing. But they are never satisfied regardless. If there are 100 anime coming out every year, at least 50 of those anime will be ecchi genre, or mild ecchi.


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Thank GOD there wasn't any "jiggle-wiggling and panty/boob/bra shots". I'm fed up of anime production companies who have this belief that every single person enjoys the fanservice. Sometimes I feel as though they forgot that their audience isn't only comprised of male viewers. I see less and less shows catered to girls...I mean, why no "boxer shots"??? why no handsome male "flexing his stuff"??? lol but seriously, less/no ecchi equals more enjoyment!

As much as I can understand your fantasies being a female fan, that would be a major no no for me. lol. And no, your take on male fans is wrong. I watch more shoujo anime than many female fans out there, and also no, I watch them for no other reason but the stories that come with those shows, which are generally speaking, usually seems way better to me. And I have many friends who enjoy quality shows more over the ones based on fan services. And no, I am talking about the male friends I know. ;)

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Sad and true. I don't know why ecchi is so popular... Well I do, but I'd rather not. =

the recent outburst over the law in anime/manga decency shows it all. as for my take on ecchi shows, I watch ecchi too. Like Ranma 1/2 from the old days, like Midori no Hibi and Hatsukoi Limited, or most recent Hyakka Ryuoran: Samurai Girls. But not because of the genre ecchi, but the comedy and romance that come along with those shows.

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shanimebib said:
4 complete singles included in a 1Q show with Sphere performing the opening theme song and 3 anime original singles.

Yeah, I was kind of surprised that they had that for this show. If they're going to do something like that it makes you they had something more planned.

See. Thats what I wanted to say. They spent surprisingly abundantly for an anime that they wouldn't otherwise think profitable.

Anyways, the good news is, the sell of the DVDs is going better than expected and fans reaction at the ending of the anime got a bit boost for the anime itself. We just never know and a season 2 might be on the cards if things keep on going for the better, and as I read from Underwater blogspot, the first volume of DVDs sold more than 3000 copies.

On a side note, did anyone else notice the surprisingly dip in the animation of the final segment of this episode. Watch the way the hands and even faces are drawn (no, I am not talking about the chibi scenes but the ones in between, like Susukihotaru blushing when Chu no Agemaki (LMAO) was revealed). This shows it wasn't probably in the original plan of the anime and they just wanted to pull a happily-ever-after ending. I could be wrong, but the more I watch the final segment, the more I think I just might be right.

 
Dec 29, 2010 9:30 PM

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I LOVE the ending~~ <3 I'm so glad that Omodaka and Byakuroku were together at the end. :) Sweet stuff in here.
 
Dec 29, 2010 11:23 PM

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That was a good run, maybe second season sometime next year?
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Dec 30, 2010 12:11 AM

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I'm glad I decided to pick up this show. Probably one of my favorites for this season.
 
Dec 30, 2010 5:01 AM

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Definitely a good pickup for this season, i want a season 2 now...
 
Dec 30, 2010 7:16 AM

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I didn't like the whole ending plot with Omodaka and all the characters acting slow and irrational but I am still giving this show an 8. I enjoyed the character interaction too much to give anything lower and also, conclusions are always welcomed.
 
Dec 30, 2010 9:41 AM

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I was hoping the battle between the Black Widow and Zakuro would be longer; I was like that's it?! o_O
 
Dec 30, 2010 9:48 AM

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UH-MAY-ZING.
Its cruelty to not show us th kiss scene but I for one am glad that there was actually a romantically conclusive ending for once. None of these 'yeah, I'll hint at some romance but wont show you any coz im mean' endings.

<3 <3 <3. On my top 10 now.


 
Dec 30, 2010 11:41 AM

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ah that was such a perfect ending!!!!!! this show had beautiful romance development! so refreshing to actually have an anime end this way once in a while :) 8.5/10
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Dec 31, 2010 1:55 AM

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good romance development , although

 
Dec 31, 2010 3:32 AM

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Well, I still retain my opinion that this was the best anime of this season. But really now, the ending disappointed me. It turned out to be a small soap-opera. The action in this episode was a good addition but it's structure was stereotypical. All in all, the anime was good, liked every episode and hey, Agemaki and Zakuro even kissed xD
As of a score, I scored it with an 8/10 :D
 
Jan 1, 2011 1:55 AM

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I'm glad that Byakuroku and Omodaka were still alive.
 
Jan 1, 2011 2:03 AM

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I require a second season.

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Jan 1, 2011 6:10 AM

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Curious, what exactly is your expectation of a "romance" done right? I know this anime isn't the next best thing since sliced bread but 2/10?
Nodame S1. While I did say that the romance aspect was done poorly in this anime, that wasn't the main reason for my low rating. The main downfall would definitely be the characters, and the terrible attempts at comedy.
 
Jan 1, 2011 11:12 AM

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It was a fun watch. Some drama, some action, a bit climactic, and a whole lot of romance. Otome Yokai Zakuro was all the more fun to watch these past 13 weeks. It's sad to say it's over, but being an anime I only glimpsed, and still dedicated myself to watch, I think it was worth the effort. A solid 8/10 is an appropriate score for this show. (^.^) Otome Yokai Zakuro completed!
 
Jan 1, 2011 2:36 PM

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A happy ending for everyone, even for the evil ones. I'm totally okay with this!
 
Jan 1, 2011 9:42 PM

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A pretty emotional ending, even though it basically amounts to a reset of the story. Sure some secrets are revealed; bonds are stronger, deeper; but this essentially allows Spirit Affairs to start on a whole new set of adventures. And if that does come true then I'll be happy to watch them. This has been a surprisingly entertaining series.

 
Jan 2, 2011 1:24 AM

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This show is my favorite of this season. I love the characters, the story, the atmosphere, the romance, and especially the art! The ending was satisfying, tying up the major plot lines in tight little ribbons. Leaving it open for a potential 2nd season was done well. This goes into my top 5 of all time and the "to buy" list.
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sanjayts said:
Curious, what exactly is your expectation of a "romance" done right? I know this anime isn't the next best thing since sliced bread but 2/10?
Nodame S1. While I did say that the romance aspect was done poorly in this anime, that wasn't the main reason for my low rating. The main downfall would definitely be the characters, and the terrible attempts at comedy.

Well, the hug in Nodame S1 was good romance, but there was so little build up to it in terms of Chiaki's personality that it was a little surprising. I found this romantic storyline very strong.

As for your dislike of it, everyone has their own likes and dislikes. But if you disliked it so, why did you watch all the way to the end? If I don't like something as much as you claim to, I don't subject myself to it.

I didn't find the story to have too much cliche or think it was to predictable, unlike other reviewers. Then again, I am usually not as bothered by cliches and tropes as other people, and I can count on one hand the number of movies I have seen in my life that I was not able to predict the ending, so predictability is something I expect. When I am surprised by a story, I am very happy, but most stories have predictable outcomes. But I was pleasantly surprised in spots by this show and felt that the characters had a reasonable amount of non traditional aspects to their personalities. (Kei's laying on the charm to cover for his personal inadequacies was one nice touch, and I liked the fact that he relied on that less and less as the season progressed.)
 
Jan 2, 2011 7:13 AM

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I was very pleased at the way the anime ended. Most anime leave a bunch of loose ends ... or leave you guessing. This wasn't the case <3
 
Jan 2, 2011 3:43 PM

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Ending itself could have been better.
Still it was a pretty good episode it had everything.
It was obvious that the soldiers would come back but that Zakuro and Agamaki would get teased was fun to watch.
I wonder what happened to all those Half Spirits that Daidai released tho nothing was mentioned about them.

This Anime was the biggest surprise this season and it was really enjoying to watch.
Shame it's only 13 episodes would have definitely wanted to see more of this.


Yeah pretty much this. I wanted a better ending but it was ok i guess. Definitely expected a lot less that what i got so am quite pleased with this show.
 
Jan 2, 2011 10:47 PM

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omg, they killed Mugi! >.<'
 
Jan 3, 2011 6:47 AM

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omg, they killed Mugi! >.<'
lol i know what u mean but still... lol... ok, done with trolling

the part where the house burn then every1 fighting the widow, and then omodaka just gave up on zakuro... o,o ... seriously that felt very forced... probably because producer didnt spent enough effort on how they present it...

anyway, i really like the romance part, it is probably the best part of this anime o,o

8/10
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Jan 3, 2011 8:49 AM

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No more tsundere Zakuro!! Yay!! But, I really hate that it ended before we could see the relationship between Riken and Susukihotaru develop more.
 
Jan 3, 2011 2:18 PM

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This was a pretty cool and cute series over all, once again a nice little success by Chiaki Kon. The ending episode was much more conclusive and interesting than most anime endings too, so overall a solid supernatural romance anime. 8/10

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Jan 4, 2011 7:38 AM

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I can understand how some people might not greatly like this anime

I'm personally a sucker for Romance anime, and ancient cultures, and mythology. Whether it's German or Irish or Japanese or South Korean or Russian. So while I definitely have some criticism about it, I still enjoyed it enough nonetheless. I can't hate any anime that manages to make me cry on a constant basis. It also makes me really want to pick back up Japanese Mythology and old Japan related things. And makes me wondered how I ever got away from doing things like this on a constant basis. I want to play Okami again now, and have picked up the Pocky and Rocky series again thanks to this anime.

Well, I suppose there's someone to hate every anime out there, isn't there?

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Jan 9, 2011 2:27 PM

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lol enjoyed the series all throughout
agemaki the kisser ftw xD
wish there was more of this
but i guess that will do for now



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Jan 14, 2011 9:10 PM

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Just quickly finished watching eps 7-13. This show was really bad: full of cliches and awful "plot twists" (quotes because they weren't really surprises) and timing. The only thing it had going for it was nice art and animation, but that didn't really change things in the end because the quality was variable at times. Oh, and Sakurai Takahiro.

3/10 overall.
 
Jan 17, 2011 12:43 PM

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I'm gonna miss this show T_T and the ending was so cute "The Kisser" :D Zakuro's face was so pretty when she got blusched
This anime is one of my favourite now let hope for the second season
 
Jan 20, 2011 6:44 AM

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Could've been an interesting anime about folklore and traditions but it got spoiled by dull and predictable romance, cheezy melodrama and a bunch of irritating side characters with no common sense at all that were there for comic reliefs.
Only the flashbacks were interesting and more mature, but that wasn't enough to save the series.
 
Jan 23, 2011 12:17 AM

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i think had a really good ending ^^
im glad those 2 survived but its sad her sister didnt

Agemaki the kisser!!!! XD
 
Feb 28, 2011 3:39 PM

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Well, there were good things and there were bad things about this anime.
As for the bad things, one of the worst things was probably the "ohai I'm the bad guy, my past was so tragic so I'm doing everything for revenge, boohoo."
Speaking of the bad guy, is it bad if I realized that he was the main bad guy as soon as I saw him in ep1?
Didn't particularly like the art either, and the only characters I cared more than nothing for were Bonbori/Hoozuki, Zakuro and the pumpkin kids. (Oh how fucking awesome them pumpkin kids were.)
Other than that, I liked the setting. Too bad the plot could've been better.
Oh and, the cheesy drama at times was like... meh.

But overall, this is still worth a 7/10, or maybe even an 8/10. Probably just a 7 though.

So, what to watch now? Guess I'll go watch Break Blade next.
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@Oosran - yo I thought Hanadate always looked kinda evil since the beginning too lol. Hot but sinister.
What gave it away was when he was spotted with the Black Widow in i've-forgotten-the-ep but it's the one where he gets stuck in the web.
Come to think of it...why was he stuck in her web when he's the Village Oracles Chief??!

Anyway, giving this a 6/10. Character development was too rushed at the end, and the saving aspects are the battle song/chant and the children. Oh the lovelies~
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Jun 23, 2011 3:22 PM

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Ahww it's over :( I wanted to see that kiss but well I guess knowing it really happened was also okay ~<3 Touching ending and I was happy that everybody got back in the end... and to see Omodaka (and Byakuroku) ^^ I kinda expected Omadaka to return to the military and help them out but that would've been a little bit too perfect ne? ^^

Liked the serie a lot but I'm hoping for a second season (there were hints that Agemaki was special, those 2 lion statues said something like that, right? :D), 8/10
 
Sep 12, 2011 12:41 PM

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Many things were cliche and predictable, but I got want I wanted: My nice, J.C.Staff-ish romance :3
It's a pity that the series was so short. Would have liked to see more of the development of Omodake and more of Byakuroku x Omodake. They seemed a nice pairing and also in the previous eps it was hinted that Omodake likes her^^
Ah, want a second season!^^
 
May 19, 2012 11:15 AM
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Great episode (perfect title tbh) for a great series. Loved it and I'm very surprised on how much I enjoyed this anime despite my somewhat dislike of historical themed genre.

9/10
 
Jul 5, 2012 7:31 AM

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Damn, I love this show! Zakuro and Agemaki really a perfect couple there!

9/10!
 
Apr 22, 2013 4:26 AM

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Why did they cut the kiss scene?! I'm so maaaad. I was going to give this a 8 MAYBE a 9 but I'll just leave this at 7...

I loved the youkai kids, they were the best characters :3 Pretty cool watch.


 
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What to make of it... As a final ep it was conclusive enough.
Finishing a villain with Zakuro Wunderwaffe might be anticlimactic if this show was about fighting, I'll pass it as ok. I kind of hoped for Daidai to be redeemed and live to be less foolish with her sister.

A plus from me for Omodaka changing his mind and returning, if not in a spectacular manner as I'd like it : Lt.Hanadate returninig as if nothing happened to give his subordinates supervision and occasional trolling, bringing another young talent (Byaku~) to the flock, anyone? :3

Romantic wise (and what's I'm in for with this series) it was very good. Those goodbyes almost brought a tear in my eye, especialy Susukihotaru and Riken. Still no "confession" and no kiss with those two! But it was as good, if not better.

Agemaki got one, though. And it was tsunderish and great with Zakuro, quite satisfying, they also made a lot of funny moments.
Twins and Ganryuu were fun too. That's where I would be uncomfortable to see a kiss :D

Come to think of it, I like how it is with Riken and -Hotaru. I hear traditionaly Japaneese did not view kising like westerners and those epic hugs are more to my liking, that's how I'd also like to show those feelings in his place. My favourite pairing in these series.
When kissing was mentioned, I wonder why Susukihotaru blushed so fiercely - perhaps she remembered something? :D

I want a whole season just about Riken and -Hotaru, oh well. It never will happen because everyone is Ecchi these days. Ecchi is a cancer that kills anime >_<

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I would have liked to've seen more between Riken and Susukihotaru, but their embrace was priceless.

I loved the part with the two kids coming in and tattling on Agemaki and Zakuro. But the best part by far was Agemaki sulking just to get Zakuro to admit her feelings.


Aggreed on both. Less is more (intense?:) And Agemaki will be a fine tsundere-handler :D

Also Byakuroku is sexy as, well... and looks good with Ha-- Omodaka. I'm glad I wasn't wrong in assuming it will happen.

Overall, while I greatly enjoyed many parts of it untill Zakuro abduction "arc", I don't feel like rating the series very high. I do believe anime creators did what they could to make some sort of conclusion with the material they had to the point it was decided to deviate from manga (too late to introduce new characters, need an ending of sorts) And they didn't try to make it more things at once than they could handle, which didn't left loose ends. I'd give it a strong 8/10.
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May 19, 2013 2:50 PM

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I'm glad to see Zakuro and Agemaki kissing, but I felt the ending still could have been better. Zakuro reciprocating Agemaki's feelings was pretty cute, though.

I agree that the anime, overall, was quite enjoyable up until Zakuro was abducted. Given that I watched this show for the romance, every time Omodaka got near Zaruko I felt really uncomfortable. And although it was interesting to see Zakuro and her mother's pasts, the plot in the last few episodes didn't really engage me. I didn't really care about Omodaka. The transition from Zakuro and Agemaki being cute in episode 8 to Zakuro hurting Agemaki in episode 9 to their kissing in episode 12 was, in my opinion, poorly handled with many, many gaps. That said, I was still able to enjoy the show as a whole, though I wish I could have gotten more romance, and by extension, more enjoyment. 7/10 - good.
 
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After finally finishing this series, I'd like to start by quoting the ever beautiful spider queen Rangui and what she said to Byakuroku "Finished with your cheap drama?"

Cheap drama it was....perhaps the most clichés I've ever seen in an anime before. I found most things to be pretty obvious and hardly suspenseful, for the most part the romance was crap. I think this was the first anime I've watched where I was far more interested in a side romance (Susukihotaru and Riken) rather than the main romance (Kei and Zakuro)....It was hard to care for their romance because she was a total douche to Kei the entire time, and I find it hard to believe that at the end I'm expected to cry or remotely show emotion to her announcing that she actually does love him, I felt like it was a joke.

Perhaps the worst offense an anime could do is turn the "evil" antagonist into just an antagonist deserving of remorse. It's as stupid as the possibility that Hilter somehow turned out to be just a troubled person, and therefore deserves remorse and compassion.

All in all, this particular anime tried to be far more than what it was, and in end it wasn't pretty.....5/10...nothing special, just your average anime


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Perhaps the worst offense an anime could do is turn the "evil" antagonist into just an antagonist deserving of remorse. It's as stupid as the possibility that Hilter somehow turned out to be just a troubled person, and therefore deserves remorse and compassion.


Because being violent against a repenting offender works so much better right :o? haha nvm, not gonna open that can of worms, as for my thoughts on the anime regarding my enjoyment factor, I scored it a 9/10 very few animes have been able to captivate me within the first few episodes. I have to admit after i read the description i wasn't too impressed and the synopsis actually made me hesitant because it sounded different from what i was used to seeing in my romance anime, of course Differences and change can sometimes be a very good thing, I like the whole layout of the anime, I loved the characters, I llked the story (although that wasn't the focal point), and best of all they didn't pop out one of those open ended romance endings, i really despise those, even though this anime did have it's main couple i loved how they were willing to look at the other characters interactions as well, it was very neat. In short i'd love if they ever made a S2, im a bit disappointed to find out the manga is actually behind the anime with no signs of an update in over a yr. But i guess thats how it goes sometimes. Hopefully J.C will keep putting out things i like, Shakugan no Shana and now this :D i'm expecting great things.
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Do you guys know whats the name of the song they sing during duels?

Japanese version

Asore
♪♫Watasha hanaka? chouchoka onika?
Awaremimo yomo araryou monoka
Menino kawarini sasukano yaibaja
Nando homete kudashansei
Asore Apare Apare Aparena ♪♫

Eng version

Am i a flower?
a butterfly?
an ogre?
misery in the world, is violence the answer?
dash of rouge turns to blade in hand.
Do praise my efforts.
Asore Apare Apare Aparena"

Its so haunting yet beautiful
 
Mar 14, 2014 1:44 AM

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The story itself wasn't really that interesting but the cast really carried this show.

8/10.
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Apr 18, 2014 11:16 PM

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13 episodes for an offscreen kiss. Rapist and murderer gets killed in a fire. None of the soldiers put up much of a protest when they were told they were reassigned. Yeah they came back but I was expecting at least one of them to be like fuck that, I'll quit the military to stay here. Again with the repeat animation. Black Widow bitch taking over as the big baddie at the end instead of Omodaka -- lame. Last two episodes and the finale as a whole were quite unsatisfying, especially for a seinen.
 
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Liked the cast of characters, but the drama felt really underwhelming/cheap. Surprisingly easy to marathon as well. Really enjoyed the lovey dovy moments as well and got a pretty conclusive romantic end.
Felt like they could have done more with the lore/ fantasy world building.

6/10
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