Yosuga no Sora: In Solitude, Where We Are Least Alone. Episode 12 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Yosuga no Sora: In Solitude, Where We Are Least Alone. Episode 12 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 196 | 65.55% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 48 | 16.05% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 27 | 9.03% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 11 | 3.68% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 17 | 5.69% |
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#41
12-21-10, 2:31 AM
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I created this account to put in my 2 cents about this ending. First, I thought that this ending would turn out the way it did. Twins commiting incest, yet not agreeing that this is what they both want until it's too late usually never ends up good. Going into a lake when it was known that both twins either could not swim and only started to learn (Haruka), or never had the chance to learn at all (Sora.) Second, let's face the reality of the ending, they both died and NO ONE would ever know how it happened. The rabbit being torned which was a gift from their mother, was miraculously in her possesion and intact. This was evident when Akira saw the broken window and the thrashed room as it was when Haruka left to search for Sora. Here is another nugget, Kazuha lied and forged the phone email. The mail that she read had no "To:" section or time stamp. She also said that they had taken a plane and 3 trains to get to their destination, where the Haruka said himself they have no money. Also, the device they used for showing someone lying was for the character to turn their head away from the person posing the question. After all, it was too convenient that Kazuha was the only one to receive phone email. Third, the train they are on is not like the one they were on when they traveled on in the begining. It was nearly all wooden with curtains on all of the windows instead with incandescent lighting instead of flouresant lighting, and the scenery changed from tunnel to mid-day sun with some white clouds where the clouds were kind of dark around the town the allegedly left to find a new life. Lastly, the whole thing about finding new life at that shrine's private lake or whatever it is only lends to conclusion of them dying in the end. Sora had thoughts of ending her life when she wrote the email apologizing to Haruka. After taking that lover's plunge in the lake, he realizes that they will both die thinking of his apology back to Sora--who probably went into shock when he was thinking of his and going deeper into the water. When he came to the first person that greeted him was Sora. At first, you think that Sora pulled them both out, but when Haruka asked Sora if they were both alive she did not answer. The time of day that they both were half naked and still soaking wet would have been the time that Akira would set out to perform Misogi Shūhō (or is it Misogi Harai) before heading to school. I can still go on about all of the foreshadowing that was made in the entire opening suggesting the finale would be something of a lover's suicide, but I think I stated plenty here. Feel free to add to this. To bloodstainx: I only read your post after the fact, but I didn't think that both were co-conspiritors covering up their death. Though what you have said, fills in some blanks I had missing. Good stuff. Edit: Merged posts. You can edit or delete a post by clicking 'edit' at the bottom right. Modified by desolato, 12-21-10, 6:20 AM |
#42
12-21-10, 2:45 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 1518 |
So, it's over. This was my personal disappointment this season, got the least entertainment from the shows I watched. The only thing I enjoyed was the last two episodes. I give the episode a 4/5 because while it was a nice ending, the pacing felt off. The series gets a 6/10. It didn't really offer too much, although I really liked the music. Edit: Assuming they died is an interesting theory and would explain the thing with Sora's bunny. Funny, I started watching this for the incest, then after the third episode hoping for a nice boat. I kinda got both in a way. Modified by Mogami-kun, 12-21-10, 2:53 AM |
#43
12-21-10, 2:51 AM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 195 |
Sora knows how to swim, though it was never shown in the anime. She dragged Haru away from the lake. They are alive. |
#44
12-21-10, 2:56 AM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2713 |
no boot but a train ending :P well it was better then expected. ![]() |
#45
12-21-10, 3:03 AM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1622 |
A happy ending (or so we can assume). I lol'd when Haruka and Sora were at the table and the next second it was trashed. And how did Sora get her rabbit back? Didn't she tear it up? |
#46
12-21-10, 3:05 AM
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Offline Joined: May 2010 Posts: 23 |
Joyce_Steele said: That's what I think as well. This whole "They try to live overseas together" thing sounds too made up. Harus "don't do it!" reaction when he finds sora sitting in the lake and how they behave as soon as they lose ground clearly indicates that they can't swim. |
#47
12-21-10, 3:11 AM
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TechnicalMonkey said: I can still go on about all of the foreshadowing that was made in the entire opening suggesting the finale would be something of a lover's suicide, but I think I stated plenty here. Feel free to add to this. I'd actually like to hear that just out of curiosity if you'd be willing. I enjoyed reading your analysis and, after re-watching the episode, think the theory of their death may actually have a lot of credibility. |
#48
12-21-10, 3:11 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10 |
Maugomale said: Sora knows how to swim, though it was never shown in the anime. She dragged Haru away from the lake. They are alive. Well that would certainly be a huge plot hole... If Sora knew how to swim then why during the ending credits do they suggest that the twins do not know how to swim by being saved by Nao. The ending credits suggest that the only one that was capable of saving the twins was Nao, who was not seen in that area. The other imagery that was used was the rising backwards from the forest resembling the exact scene but backwards. Both twins are seen lying on the ground, the area is aqua with with water reflections. The aqua hues with the water reflections are seen throughout the entire begining. I even looked at the entire CG set for the eroge, and there was nothing to suggest that Sora knew how to swim. If there was some text in the game that shows this please feel free to share with us. Thanks |
#49
12-21-10, 3:14 AM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 220 |
And we have our incest ending! Good stuff (for those that are into it). It was a nice ending though. Still a 7/10 overall for me, due to various reasons. This last arc actually tackled a lot of real problems when it comes to forbidden love... In a very ecchi way, but still... Ah, all's well that ends well. |
#50
12-21-10, 3:23 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 2331 |
This was really a crap ending and also by far the worst arc. Just at the part where it almost looked like a bad ending they had to make a good ending out of it. How the hell did they get out of that water if neither of them can't swim? What would there uncle and aunt way about there relationship, i doubt they would approve of it. This arc would have been better with a bad ending incest relationships don't work out and will always fail in the end. And my opinion of Sora went down again and i already thought it hit rock bottom. About the Anime itself. It started of pretty good. I enjoyed both Kuseha and Akira arc and Noa arc was pretty decent. Sora arc however was bad they purely used the incest to draw in they audience for that arc and didn't really bother with making a good story out of it. Then again i didn't expect much from Sora arc to start with. A other thing i am disappointed about is that there wasn't a Kozue arc, as i was really looking forward to that one. The Motoka story's at the ending of each episode where pretty fun to watch i really likes those. ![]() |
#51
12-21-10, 3:24 AM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 15 |
Why would Kazuha lie about the text? She really didn't even know Haru/Sora that well in the Nao/Sora arc so there's not much reason for her to lie. |
#52
12-21-10, 3:24 AM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 508 |
I was hoping for a nice boat but the theory that they really did die in that lake is pretty interesting. |
#53
12-21-10, 3:32 AM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 195 |
TechnicalMonkey said: Well that would certainly be a huge plot hole... If Sora knew how to swim then why during the ending credits do they suggest that the twins do not know how to swim by being saved by Nao. The ending credits suggest that the only one that was capable of saving the twins was Nao, who was not seen in that area. The other imagery that was used was the rising backwards from the forest resembling the exact scene but backwards. Both twins are seen lying on the ground, the area is aqua with with water reflections. The aqua hues with the water reflections are seen throughout the entire begining. There's been a LOAD of alterations from Sora's route in the game compared to her arc in the anime. The overall pace of the lake scene was also quite different. The context for the ending was a lot different as well. I might make a comparison later. I even looked at the entire CG set for the eroge, and there was nothing to suggest that Sora knew how to swim. If there was some text in the game that shows this please feel free to share with us. Thanks There's no CG for that scene. Allow me to make a brief summary: |
#54
12-21-10, 3:35 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 65 |
To me I can't say this was a bad anime. The art is colorful, the music is very beautiful and the story is pretty interesting for the most part. Though this anime was pretty disturbing in many ways. 7/10 Mind if i cut in? |
#55
12-21-10, 3:43 AM
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9/10 for sora's arc! The rest was shit T_T |
#56
12-21-10, 4:00 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10 |
To Aversa: If you read my earlier post you might find my post interesting. I personally liked this arc as it was that can get a more general audience to discuss what happened, and why. To MoeType: if the email was real instead of fake that would mean that Kazuha would know the twins, or at least Haruka, well enough to have his number/email. The way the anime works is that you have to build the stories from episode 1 each time there is a new arc. I'm sure there are posts on other series that are based off of Visual Novels. As far as Kozue is concerned, I think that she is ultimately THE character left out of the loop. She did not return with Nao, Kazuha, Akira, and Ryohei, so it is possible they were able to piece the whole thing together of what may have happened with at the possibility of the Akira/Kazuha, or the 4 of them knowing that the twins died (see bloodstainx post.) All of this possibly to make sure that Kozue doesn't do something bad to herself or others, this in the form of retaliating at Nao for not disagreeing 100% with Haruka's choice to be with Sora. |
#57
12-21-10, 4:00 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 2278 |
Tempted to give this series a 6, but I'll rest with a 7/10. This series was real DEEP. lulzroflomgxD |
#58
12-21-10, 4:16 AM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 196 |
Enjoyed the series with all its randomness, always admired Sora's clothes. Glad to finally finnish this anime ill give it a 9/10 |
#59
12-21-10, 4:23 AM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 20 |
HOW DARE HARU SLAP SORA!! Anyways, I honestly never expected this anime to be this deep... This arc is the only arc that's different from the VN.. and I think this one is a lot better.. It is sorta an ending that leaves us thinking.. Like Code Geass and Inception ending, you decide whichever.. And now I gonna cry for having no more Sora.. |
#60
12-21-10, 4:27 AM
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Offline Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 226 |
And in the end only decent human being in the whole show who didn't succumb into LOLHENTAI WRITING was the Class Rep Shit on a stick this show was 4/10 |




Mind if i cut in?