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Jun 2, 2008 4:42 PM
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i kept expecting kaifun to say or do something incredibly stupid and insensitve, i'm glad he didnt'. even if it was extremely out of character for him.
Jun 3, 2008 7:29 PM
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I agree, Kaifun is an ass.
Oct 5, 2009 2:06 PM
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And with that Minmay is now of legendary status within the world of Macross, not just a pop idol but like a spiritual leader or something, lol.
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Oct 5, 2009 2:18 PM
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Minmay is getting more mature thats for sure. and Poor Captain Global...
May 16, 2010 10:20 PM
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I found it hilarious that Bretai's ship was still damaged from when Vermilion Squad escaped. xD
Jan 9, 2011 1:36 AM
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Sabinlerose said:
I found it hilarious that Bretai's ship was still damaged from when Vermilion Squad escaped. xD


I know, right? I guesss they figured looked better that way. Now that I think about it,they can't repair their own equipment can they?

Oh well, I wouldn't be grateful or take being kicked off Earth with grace. I'd be all like, "f*ck you guys! F*ck Earth! You're gonna regret this!"
May 5, 2011 7:55 PM
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Minmay earned some points in this episode, she did a great thing.
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May 17, 2011 4:49 PM
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Ohh tempting protoculture are infecting the Zentradi, bwahahaha! Such a terrible weapon indeed!

DonKangolJones said:
Now that I think about it,they can't repair their own equipment can they?


While they were captured, Max and Misa already surmised independently from their own observation of the damaged hull and leaky pipes on board, respectively, that the Zentradi have a poor repair technology despite their technological superiority over miclones.

I don't know what to think of Minmay now, she does the unexpected once in a while... LOL But I got to admit she did good speaking after Global.
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Jun 8, 2011 1:14 AM
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Indeed, Minmay says something good on in a while and her song was nice. But for me, the Zentradi spies owned this episode~
Nov 24, 2011 2:08 PM

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Zentradi spies all the way :D
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Mar 18, 2012 4:51 PM

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Minmay’s speech was extremely conceited. She basically stood up and said that she doesn’t really understand what is actually happening but because she is the most famous person in Macross City, she doesn’t mind being forced to stay there. I doubt she really cares what other people think as long as they love her.
May 2, 2012 4:33 PM

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Minmay’s speech was extremely conceited. She basically stood up and said that she doesn’t really understand what is actually happening but because she is the most famous person in Macross City, she doesn’t mind being forced to stay there. I doubt she really cares what other people think as long as they love her.


yeah I have to admit I thought her speech was dreadful and really ruined the gravitas of Global's speech - then again maybe that was the point...

also wtf with the Minmai doll the spies smuggled? was it a one off promotional 'full size human' one?
Jun 15, 2012 3:44 PM
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May 25, 2013 10:36 PM

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Hikaru writing letter to Kakizaki's family...

Another beautiful sunset.

Aliens do not want to go back, I wonder why :D

Loved how Global and Misa drank without clinking glasses. They think not of surviving this, obviously. What an unfortunate ship. But no one thinks of bailing it for some reason, if it's the SHIP aliens after. And if not, then all the PLANET is in danger (I believe it was attacked while Macross was away even), so guys at HQ are being irrational. Not even providing support when Macross was attacked on surface. Negotiating after Macross destruction is like starting talks after handing out a last nuclear bomb to an enemy who has thousand (not mentioning their disinterest in alien culture)

Seeing alien armada un-folding behind the Moon and with no support from U.N., I'd call it quits and order abandon ship. At least the crew would be saved miserable and meaningless deaths even if they decided on a martial for a captain afterwards (but chances are there would be no U.N. government after that)
Come on, Global is italian(?) they know how to retreat and bail out with style! :D
We would not have third season then, however :)

Finaly telling the news to civilians. Minmay being optimistic about it as always.
Kaifun holding Global's shoulder - interesting.

Alien three had brought souvenirs from Macross and spreading it among their comrades :D

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I found it hilarious that Bretai's ship was still damaged from when Vermilion Squad escaped. xD


This.
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Aug 11, 2013 3:45 PM

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Phaetons_Folly said:

also wtf with the Minmai doll the spies smuggled? was it a one off promotional 'full size human' one?


Yea and they could all hear the tiny speaker very clearly.

The only thing I really disliked about this episode was the way they slowed down old footage of Minmay singing for the new song. looked like garbage
Oct 4, 2013 6:56 AM

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Zentradi privates all listenning in bliss to the tiny Minmay doll was hilarious.
Mar 31, 2014 5:59 PM

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Protoculture is powerful. The Zentraedi are obviously doomed...

But yes, it must suck to give up the three bridge babes for a bunch of guys in fatigues.
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It was nice seeing the 3 spies share their love of protoculture.

Didn't expect Kaifun to comfort Global with all his hate of the military. Global's speech was really emotional, i'm sure the citizens could tell he did everything he could.

Up next: More Misa X Hikaru scenes?
Oct 20, 2015 3:00 AM

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The 3 spies are the best part about this show.
Nov 11, 2015 10:33 PM

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That was quite emotional. Bravo Minmay!
Jun 26, 2016 4:11 AM

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3 stooges/spies had very interesting Mission...wonder how they FKING stole this many shit..... And not being wanted for stealing within Macross.
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Bye, bye my dear home, Earth!!! The Macross say bye bye to the Earth, finally!!!! ; _ ;
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It's nice to see Minmei leave the naive little girl attitude for once. Too bad it happens only after Hikaru realized the gap in characters between them.

The three zentradis seem like incredibly competent stealers. XD The scenes are made a bit dumb because of the scale who xcan't never stay the same (mini/invisible food is okay but Minmei dolls as tall as coolers/freezers is insane).

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That trio is growing to my heart xD

Minmay went also through quite the development, almost no comparison to the beginning.

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I wonder if Misa schooled that hippie on the kind of situation they're in. That might explain the change in his attitude.

And yeah, the scaling was pretty weird and inconsistent in this episode. That Minmay doll those 3 stooges brought back with them looked huge. As big as the grand piano and the refrigerator, when it should be the size of ants to them.
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First his senpai, now his subordinate. Things are really tough for Hikaru.

Anyone ship the spies with the Macross operators? lol

Zentradi becoming contaminated with the human culture...

Really heartwarming that Minmay helped Global's explanation to the civilians and Kaifun gave him a pat on the back. My Beautiful Place is an underrated track from this series.

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Feb 26, 2020 11:22 AM

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Nice song by Minmay, quite emotional.

Was hard episode for Captain and Hikaru.

Zentradi are slowly getting assimilated.
Jul 13, 2020 7:18 AM

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I expected the battle pod which Misa and the others used to return to Macross to be in a safer place, but it ended up being used by the spies. And actually I wanted them to settle down on Macross and never finish their mission :p

Captain Global's speech was quite touching, I teared up a bit.
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This is the first time I adored the Zentradi stooges, finally alien characters getting some spotlight.
Jan 9, 2021 2:19 AM
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I just realized something,:

From the time that they teleported to Pluto and had to manually travel to Earth, an enormous amount of time should've already passed. Like Minmay's parents either would be really old or dead. And now that they're being ordered to gtfo back to space. Same thing I guess, depends on how far they'll go
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The show is growing. Hikaru writing to the parents of his deceased subordinate - what a scene! And Minmay realising the importance of her own role in these hard times. The show feels so contemporary with its focus on migration and world politics.
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I just realized something,:

From the time that they teleported to Pluto and had to manually travel to Earth, an enormous amount of time should've already passed. Like Minmay's parents either would be really old or dead. And now that they're being ordered to gtfo back to space. Same thing I guess, depends on how far they'll go


It only took them a little less than a year to get from Pluto back to Earth. It's an average of 0.000628 light years between the two planets, so even with a much slower than light speed spaceship it doesn't take a lifetime or anything. For comparison, the New Horizons probe launched in 2006 took 9.5 years to go from Earth to Pluto, so a repaired alien ship going at 10 times that speed in sci-fi is easily believable to me.
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3miL said:
I just realized something,:

From the time that they teleported to Pluto and had to manually travel to Earth, an enormous amount of time should've already passed. Like Minmay's parents either would be really old or dead. And now that they're being ordered to gtfo back to space. Same thing I guess, depends on how far they'll go


It only took them a little less than a year to get from Pluto back to Earth. It's an average of 0.000628 light years between the two planets, so even with a much slower than light speed spaceship it doesn't take a lifetime or anything. For comparison, the New Horizons probe launched in 2006 took 9.5 years to go from Earth to Pluto, so a repaired alien ship going at 10 times that speed in sci-fi is easily believable to me.

At the time I was under the impression that all their ships are just advanced earth mechs

then again even if it isn't that realistic, it's fiction..so yeah
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