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Dec 3, 2010 3:48 PM

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I felt kind of sorry for Chiziru. She seems to regret becoming a shiki, and wants her human life back. Its a bit sad. She took such joy in pretending she'd done something so human as slipping with a knife while cooking.. aw :(

But damn, Toshi is so epic. I think I love him.
Dec 3, 2010 4:34 PM

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HAHAH Great episode well glad i took the time to catch up no regrets with this show.
Dec 3, 2010 4:36 PM

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Sartaj said:
She'll die if she doesn't drink blood.


Which, in my opinion, would be a neat development.

A shiki who refuses to drink blood, doesn't give in to the hunger, and dies.
Dec 3, 2010 4:49 PM

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tsubasalover said:
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The doctor is evil for using Sunako's "mother"!

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Yes He kicked ass that episode..I felt bad for Chizuru but only for a moment
Dec 3, 2010 4:54 PM

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IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!

Seriously though, good episode, it's going to be interesting to see how it ends...
Dec 3, 2010 4:57 PM
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Ozaki is epic..pure epic LOL eviiiiil *.*

I did feel a little sad for Chizuru but.........only for a sec , since i remember everything she did.

Definitely BEST anime of this season,definitely.
Dec 3, 2010 4:58 PM

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best ep ...cant wait for the next ep
Dec 3, 2010 5:11 PM

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I wonder if I'm the only one who'd rather side with the shiki.

Looks like Chiziru's gonna get killed off tho, right after getting some character development.
What a shame.
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Dec 3, 2010 6:21 PM
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this is my favourite episode to date
and i can't help but feel a little bad for Chizuru, Ritsuko and Tohru
Dec 3, 2010 6:28 PM

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I feel terrible for Chizuru. She really doesn't seem like that bad of a person. But Natsuno and Ozaki's plan was great. Did Natsuno save Akira too?

Can't wait for next week. Cliffhanger why?!
Dec 3, 2010 9:36 PM

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Oh..!!!

Raising the score by 1..this is getting better and better
Dec 3, 2010 10:15 PM

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y r natsuno's clothes so interestingly fashionable



Dec 4, 2010 12:14 AM

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Finally this show is getting interesting, this is what the show should have been from the beginning. I can't wait until next week!!
Dec 4, 2010 12:47 AM

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Nah, if Shiki had been like this since the very beginning, then it would be like every other generic action series out there. It needed the atmosphere and the characters set up just as it did to have a full effect.

Fantastic episode.
Dec 4, 2010 1:58 AM

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Its so stupid that there s actually shiki haters@(troll?) out there
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Dec 4, 2010 2:55 AM

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Great episode. I didn't expect a literal confrontation between Tatsumi and Natsuno. Natsuno's dad was funny and insane, really liked how he stabbed Tatsumi.
Now we find out about jinrous. I wonder who's the 4th one and I don't see how they can be a sub-species of shiki since they are stronger than them and can even daywalk.

Right. I forgot to mention all that in my post. Natsuno's one, Tatsumi's two. When Tatsumi was talking about Jinrous they showed a picture of a girl with dark red hair, then later they showed Tohru walking with that girl (at least I think that was her). No idea who she is. She's three. Tatsumi said Jinrou breath, have a pulse, and can also survive on food. Considering Mr. Kirishiki had a pulse and was breathing, I'm assuming he is our number four.

And yeah, what was up with Natsuno's dad? Why is he all crazy?


he said he'd seen 4 including natsuno, maybe he's not including himself because i think that crazy funeral guy might be one, his eyes weren't blank like the rest of the shiki (IIRC)

you'd go crazy too if your son just showed up one day after being dead XD


I thought Ozaki said that Mr Kirishiki was a human at the end of last episode. I think it happens after he shoots his stake.
Dec 4, 2010 3:26 AM

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Sebastian333 said:
Its so stupid that there s actually shiki haters@(troll?) out there

no it's not, u retard, there's trolls/haters for everything, u retard, even you, u retard.

... sry, that may not hav sounded like a troll convincingly enough.



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I'm glad the doctor proved to be more resourceful than I initially thought,but,you know...what's next?What's gonna happen now?I'm definitely lovin' Shiki and hope for more episodes,OVAs or a movie. :D
The episode was really good.Seeing being a Shiki becoming a trend really started bugging me,so exposing their existence was a real twist!
Dec 4, 2010 9:07 AM

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destroyar0 said:

Toshio's evil smile to Chizuru was the best moment.


i agree! finally, the villagers know! :D oh, can i just ask, any ideas on who bit toshio aside from chizuru?

i was glad to hear akira's no longer tied to a post somewhere. but how about his sister?

i've been wondering why natsuno's awake during the day and why his eyes are normal...a jinrou huh? so the jinrou are the equivalent of werewolves? i didn't know werewolves accompany vampires...or is that just in this story? anyway, the four jinrou are natsuno, tatsumi, yoshie, and ..? i'm sure it's not sunako.. :/

i wonder what natsuno is going to do...and what are the shiki going to do about toshio now that he succeeded on letting the villagers know about them?

this is such a great show. :)
Dec 4, 2010 10:39 AM
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i agree! finally, the villagers know! :D oh, can i just ask, any ideas on who bit toshio aside from chizuru?


I think it was probably Natsuno - both of them working together vs the shiki, the bite allowed Natsuno to feed a bit in order to actually have some of the werewolf strength and abilities, as well as the obvious purpose of unlocking the doctor from chizuru.
Dec 4, 2010 11:42 AM

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I thought Ozaki said that Mr Kirishiki was a human at the end of last episode. I think it happens after he shoots his stake.

I just went and watched that part and Ozaki asked, "But why is he staying with you guys when he's human?"

To which Chizuru replies, "He's staying with us of his own free will, just liker Mr. Muroi."

Since Natsuno is a Jinrou, you'd think he would have told him about those specific traits. So why does Ozaki still think Kirishiki is a human? Maybe he was just trying to confirm if he was or not. I forgot about that line, so thanks for mentioning it. I guess he could be either a human or a Jinrou, though to me it would make more sense for him to be a Jinrou. If Tatsumi's going to go and tell us of four Jinrou they had better show us all of them. XD
Dec 4, 2010 12:11 PM
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Blackbird said:
Is it just me that begin to feel sorry for Chizuru there?


Me too :-(

Very good episode tough.
Dec 4, 2010 1:13 PM

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xrecks said:
rukia15 said:

i agree! finally, the villagers know! :D oh, can i just ask, any ideas on who bit toshio aside from chizuru?


I think it was probably Natsuno - both of them working together vs the shiki, the bite allowed Natsuno to feed a bit in order to actually have some of the werewolf strength and abilities, as well as the obvious purpose of unlocking the doctor from chizuru.
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I thought Ozaki said that Mr Kirishiki was a human at the end of last episode. I think it happens after he shoots his stake.

I just went and watched that part and Ozaki asked, "But why is he staying with you guys when he's human?"

To which Chizuru replies, "He's staying with us of his own free will, just liker Mr. Muroi."

Since Natsuno is a Jinrou, you'd think he would have told him about those specific traits. So why does Ozaki still think Kirishiki is a human? Maybe he was just trying to confirm if he was or not. I forgot about that line, so thanks for mentioning it. I guess he could be either a human or a Jinrou, though to me it would make more sense for him to be a Jinrou. If Tatsumi's going to go and tell us of four Jinrou they had better show us all of them. XD


Replying to those who still have doubts about the ep.

Mr Kirishiki is Human (Confirmed by Chizuru and Ozaki...).

Sunako apparently is NOT a Jinrou (Remember that Tatsumi only said that she was the one who gave the name Jinrou to them).

And who bit Ozaki was Natsuno. (you know that part when he is dreaming with chizuru, and Natsuno´s eyes appear? yes, those are Natsuno´s eyes....and well, think guys...who else could have been? its not like Ozaki has a lot of friends willing to help him,and the one that made a team with him was Natsuno, so the obvious is like...obvious! and yes, Natsuno can drink blood, didn't you listened what Tatsumi said to him?).

Cant wait to see next ep. Hoping they will show Kaori...

And damn, Tatsumi´s outfit surpassed Lady Gaga´s outfit in this ep!

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Dec 4, 2010 1:32 PM

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Awesome episode! finally the counterattack will begin, nice move with Natsuno with the earlier bite.
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They use the show's potential to the fullest. This is indeed a fantastic episode.
Dec 4, 2010 2:45 PM

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I love how this show makes me pity the shikis at certain points.

5/5 for this one.
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Dec 4, 2010 3:32 PM

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Oh Tatsumi's clothes.
Oh Natsuno's dad.
Oh you creep whatever your name was Masao.
Oh Megumi's clohtes~
Oh Ritsuko щ(゚Д゚щ)

Oh doctor, you so crazy.
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Tatsumi is still as awesome as he is, and Natsuno's dad lost his mind right after seeing Natsuno...

Ozaki is now the evil-protagonist.

Sorry Chizuru, but it has to be done.


Dec 4, 2010 11:35 PM

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loled pretty hard when Tatsumi showed up in that outfit.

And not only has Natsuno become more fashionable, even his furniture has been upgraded. The guy has those Egg chairs from Men in Black xD

So, it looks like Natsuno bit Dr.Ozaki before Mrs. Kirishiki to escape falling under her control. I didnt really see that coming.
The last scene was pretty nice up until the Shiki cavalry arrived with Mr. Kirishiki sporting a shotgun this time around.
Though awesome beard guy is still awesome.
Dec 5, 2010 5:41 AM

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All i have to say is : Too fucking late!!!!
He even let his nurse become a shiki even though he realized she was beaten.

Btw if Natsuno took a bite of the good old doctor so they can stop the effects of any other bite then why is he weak? Didn't he drink a little blood from him?
Or was he pretending to be weak? And if those werewolf creatures have all the powers but none of the disadvantages of the vampires why isn't Tatsumi the one ordering Sunako than the other way around?

They really tried to make us feel sorry Chizuru's fate didn't they. I don't know if i should feel sorry for her or not.

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It seems Sunako's plan is failing. This kind of situation is exactly why Sunako wanted a place where the shiki can live in peace. Although the shiki were the first to attack the humans, there is no good nor evil since they have to do it to survive.


What the hell are you talking about? They didn't do it to survive. They did it because they wanted their own village so they can walk around freely.
They can easily survive by lurking in the shadows considering how big the disbelief of their existence is. They didn't had to go and try to erase a whole village from existence.
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Monad said:
All i have to say is : Too fucking late!!!!
He even let his nurse become a shiki even though he realized she was beaten.

Btw if Natsuno took a bite of the good old doctor so they can stop the effects of any other bite then why is he weak? Didn't he drink a little blood from him?
Or was he pretending to be weak? And if those werewolf creatures have all the powers but none of the disadvantages of the vampires why isn't Tatsumi the one ordering Sunako than the other way around?

They really tried to make us feel sorry Chizuru's fate didn't they. I don't know if i should feel sorry for her or not.

wakka9ca said:
It seems Sunako's plan is failing. This kind of situation is exactly why Sunako wanted a place where the shiki can live in peace. Although the shiki were the first to attack the humans, there is no good nor evil since they have to do it to survive.


What the hell are you talking about? They didn't do it to survive. They did it because they wanted their own village so they can walk around freely.
They can easily survive by lurking in the shadows considering how big the disbelief of their existence is. They didn't had to go and try to erase a whole village from existence.

1: It maybe too late but there is nothing can be done. Ozaki has already done everything in his power to save Ritsuko. If he were to do something more than that Shiki will suspect him and everything he has planned until now will be ruined and Ritsuko will still die in the end the same.

2: There is no telling who is stronger Sunako or werewolf. Werewolf may have something overpower Shiki but that doesn't mean they are stronger than Sunako. And it could be true that Natsuno was pretending to be weak.

3: You will feel sorry for either side if you stay in the middle just as wakka said.

4:And what exactly make you believe that they can survive without sucking blood from human?


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
Dec 5, 2010 8:43 AM

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I have only one question left. Why doesn't this series have avg. score of 9.99?
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1: It maybe too late but there is nothing can be done. Ozaki has already done everything in his power to save Ritsuko. If he were to do something more than that Shiki will suspect him and everything he has planned until now will be ruined and Ritsuko will still die in the end the same.

2: There is no telling who is stronger Sunako or werewolf. Werewolf may have something overpower Shiki but that doesn't mean they are stronger than Sunako. And it could be true that Natsuno was pretending to be weak.

3: You will feel sorry for either side if you stay in the middle just as wakka said.

4:And what exactly make you believe that they can survive without sucking blood from human?


1. He could have at least give her blood transfusions to delay her death until the time of there plan. He could also have her disappear with the help of Natsuno like the little kid disappeared or think of something. I mean he found her after her first time being bitten so she could be saved but he let her die just like that. Maybe he didn't care that much for her. There are quite a few things he could do.

2.She's weaker because she's vulnerable during the day. I wasn't talking about physical power. And anyway if it's just hand power that we are talking about then the old man that lifted the moving car is stronger than all the vampires and his human.

3. From the moment that we are all human, we can't claim to be in the middle now can we? Anyway the whole thing is a little sad but lets be honest, she does deserve it.

4. Nothing at all. What makes you believe i was suggesting such a thing?
Dec 5, 2010 9:33 AM

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woah after like 3 episodes of boring things have finally gotten interesting :D
This doctor is probs the smartest guy in the show... anyone notice how he is like the anime version of Dr. House?

Dec 5, 2010 10:24 AM

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What can i say? Ozaki is awesome, and natsuno's gonna go generic, or is he just pretending?
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Dec 5, 2010 11:39 AM

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So Sunako is the leader of this pack? Makes me wonder why Tatsumi and Yoshie are following her orders when they're clearly more superior to her. Wonder who's the 4th one. I'm gonna stick with jinrou in calling them, just like calling the vampires shiki. Werewolf seems like an odd name. And are they really werewolves or just stronger shikis?

Darn it, Ritsuko died D:
But maybe Ozaki didn't do a thing to save her to keep out of the shiki's radar. Otherwise the plan he did here would have backfired. Still, why did she have to die DD:
Confused as to how Ozaki broke Chizuru's hypnosis.
Also curious to Akira's whereabouts.
In any case, things are getting really really better here, I even forgot that there's only 4 episodes left.
Hope this continues to be this epic.

Lol at Masao, Natsuno's clothes and Ookawa(father) lifting that car.
And I feel sorry for Chizuru. What a waste of good boobs right there.
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@Monad:
1: Because before he could do that Chizuru was already at the hospital at that night and he had to pretend he was under her command.

2: Like I said, we have no idea who is stronger than who. But if you take Tatsumi's statement in this episode into account you can see there is big different in power between Natsuno and Tatsumi even though they are both werewolf. And so, how in the world could you say the mother of shiki(Sunako) is weaker that the others?

3: Well if you say we are human therefore we should take human's side then I have nothing else to say. But being killed in one shot and being stoned to death is a difference.

4: Read your sentence again:
What the hell are you talking about? They didn't do it to survive. They did it because they wanted their own village so they can walk around freely.
They can easily survive by lurking in the shadows considering how big the disbelief of their existence is. They didn't had to go and try to erase a whole village from existence.
But if I misunderstood something then I'm sorry.


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Siva said:
2: Like I said, we have no idea who is stronger than who. But if you take Tatsumi's statement in this episode into account you can see there is big different in power between Natsuno and Tatsumi even though they are both werewolf. And so, how in the world could you say the mother of shiki(Sunako) is weaker that the others?

I thought they followed Sunako because she is the "mother" figure (like you said) and because she seems to be the eldest among them. She's the leader, the brains behind the operation, while Tatsumi is a loyal follower as well as her muscle. Chizuru and Mr. Kirishiki kind of serve as her face to the public since she is stuck in the form of a child.
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BITCH GOT OWNNNNEDDDDD

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Dec 5, 2010 9:09 PM

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Confused as to how Ozaki broke Chizuru's hypnosis.


didn't u see that he has another bite markings under his sleeve
I think someone got him first and that would be natsuno
so top priority for natsuno orders ....

that smile he gave her .. I mean it was written in all his face YOU GOT OWNED BITCH xD
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belatkuro said:
Confused as to how Ozaki broke Chizuru's hypnosis.


Natsuno actually bit Ozaki before Chizuru did. Natsuno and Ozaki planned ahead and knew that he was going to be a target soon so Natsuno bit him first (On the wrist, he pulls his sleeve up to show the bite marks) and when Chizuru bit him, he had already been infected so her hyponosis hade no effect whatsoever on him.

Ozaki's smile says it all. So bloody epic.
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... sry, that may not hav sounded like a troll convincingly enough.


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and OMFG....CHIZURU@G@G@ owned ? betch you have been captured !! xDD(im still hoping she wears a sexy outfirts though ='/)
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Also, where does everyone in this show get their new fancy fashions from all the time? Is there like, some kind of resident glam-rock outfitter in the villiage? WHUT?
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Siva said:
4: Read your sentence again:
What the hell are you talking about? They didn't do it to survive. They did it because they wanted their own village so they can walk around freely.
They can easily survive by lurking in the shadows considering how big the disbelief of their existence is. They didn't had to go and try to erase a whole village from existence.
But if I misunderstood something then I'm sorry.


I assume that what he said was that the Shiki should not get the pitty-bonus for "we have no choise, we just want to live :'(", because they, or at least Sunako, mannaged for over 100 years. As Chizuru stated, they want to have a town where they can go shopping and have friends, and not having to be hiding in the night for eternity.Then again, "living" and "surviving" are 2 different things, so no one can blame them for what they did to be happy, even though the end doens't justifies the means. *cough*after all, we cut down our rainforests*cough*

Nice episode, I felt sorry for Chizuru there and was hoping for Mr. Kirishiki to save her (who's most likely the 4th werewofl), I really like this guy.
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Ozaki's evil smile was epic! ;D

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
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I could feel sorry for both sides. Nobody chose to be Shiki, but they did kill humans so they would always be adversaries as a result of "biology". So its kinda sad, but unavoidable. To be honest, I would just said Fuck it and left that village.
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To be honest, I would just said Fuck it and left that village.


But they cant leave that village becoz' Tatsumi already blocked the "exits way" with huge rocks xD
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dxthegreat said:

... sry, that may not hav sounded like a troll convincingly enough.


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Mhmm, that's bull. I hate Green Green, for instance. Doesn't mean I don't understand it or I couldn't be a perverted slut like most of the characters, it just means I don't like it :/

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This was rather satisfying.
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