Legend of the Galactic Heroes Episode 34 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Legend of the Galactic Heroes Episode 34 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 19 | 55.88% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 12 | 35.29% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 2 | 5.88% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 0.00% | ||
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 1 | 2.94% |
Voters: 34
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05-29-08, 4:16 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Funny how Reinhard and Yang thought the exact same plan of kamikaze fortresses to win the battle early on. Both of them really need to go toe-to-toe to see who'd come out on top. However Yang would definitely need reinforcements before that matchup could happen. Reinhard still has much more manpower at his disposal. Genius seems to be contagious when it comes to Yang. Julian showed some promise with his strategy. Even Merkatz was impressed. That ought to earn him a nice promotion. The Alliance representative to Phezzan is a complete fool. After getting tricked by Kessellink the first time, how is it he's once again swayed by the very same lies? I'd maybe understand if Kessellink tried to change his story and attack at a different angle but he went back to spewing the same 'Yang Administation' garbage. Well at the very least it will be much harder to pull Yang off the front lines again. I don't think any other politicians will want to have to grovel on their knees like Negroponty had to. Modified by tainteddonut, 09-07-08, 5:39 PM |
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09-05-08, 2:40 AM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2050 |
It's good to see Merkatz has proven to be a worthy alley for the Alliance and Julian will probably be awesome later on. Yang's been kind of a lone warrior for awhile, unlike Reinhard. So it'll be nice to see Yang build up a "cabinet" of his own. This battle was probably the craziest yet, but "Yang the Magician" did come through! |
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10-19-08, 8:39 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 120 |
I think that it would have been better had Reinhard controlled the fleet to take Iserlohn. Muller seemed to be the only one competent enough to really lead that group. Wonder how Reinhard will take this defeat and how it could effect him politically. |
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02-02-09, 6:34 AM
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This fortress face-off has been the best battle of the show so far. Every single step taken was logical and there was no cartoonish villain hijinks, everyone was generally cooperating with their superiors in trying to win the conflict, and it was topped with great ideas and visuals. "I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
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09-13-09, 1:45 PM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 796 |
I'll admit this has been one of the best battles I've seen so far, but that first fight where Yang had everyone in an Oroboros formation remains my favorite. Julian was able to form a strategy as Yang would and Merkatz helped excecute it excellently. The things Yang mentioned regarding the Empire's options were on the mark and sadly for them, it was ineveitably Kempf's actions that brought on such a huge loss... but really there were many variables that kept them from winning from assumptions to jumping to conclusions. Overall, a great battle, but again at the cost of so many lives. |
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12-01-09, 2:02 PM
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Offline Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3587 |
I was expecting the Empire to win, and succeed in capturing or destroying Isherlohn. But I was wrong. The Alliance was a lot more capable than I had thought, and Julian helped out a lot. Awesome battle. ![]() |
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03-28-10, 5:02 AM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1373 |
Um... how was Geiersburg suddenly destroyed so easily when before the same attack caused negligible damage? Is its stern, if it has such a thing, vulnerable? Or was their defeat a result of distraction? I hope I missed something, because I refuse to believe blowing up an engine would render the entire fortress defenseless. Even if it did, it seems an obvious enough strategy that someone should have thought of it before Wenli's return. I mean, if it were a video game, the engines would have been my first target. Honestly, I sometimes feel the characters are only intelligent and resourceful when the story needs them to be. Modified by Ezekiel, 03-28-10, 5:07 AM |
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03-28-10, 5:23 AM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 134 |
Ezekiel said: Um... how was Geiersburg suddenly destroyed so easily when before the same attack caused negligible damage? Is its stern, if it has such a thing, vulnerable? Or was their defeat a result of distraction? I hope I missed something, because I refuse to believe blowing up an engine would render the entire fortress defenseless. Even if it did, it seems an obvious enough strategy that someone should have thought of it before Wenli's return. I mean, if it were a video game, the engines would have been my first target. Honestly, I sometimes feel the characters are only intelligent and resourceful when the story needs them to be. It has been long time since I watch this series, but IIRC before Yang arrives Kempf lowers geiersburg atmosphere a little bit, resulting in the heavier gravity around geiersburg, thus hardening its defense(or something like that). ![]() |
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03-28-10, 6:53 AM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1373 |
Either I lack the intelligence to comprehend what Kempf said or these subbers have once again misinterpreted important dialogue. For the sake of pride and time, I'll assume the latter and take your word for it. |
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03-28-10, 9:30 AM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 134 |
Pretty much sure that is bootleg sub. I suggest you to get CA sub ![]() |
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03-28-10, 10:47 AM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1373 |
Thanks for persuading me. I intended to stick with this batch, since the AV quality was great and I had already downloaded it all a few days ago. But I now realize the horrid grammar, among other distractions, just wasn't worth it. |
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03-28-10, 1:08 PM
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Offline Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 598 |
This show is based on dialogue, if you watch these subs you'll miss all the things that make LoGH so interesting. :( |
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03-28-10, 2:03 PM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1373 |
If my memory (of last year) serves me right, there wasn't anything deeply wrong as far as plot goes. It was still coherent in the grand scheme of things. There were just some mistakes here and there, like Lohengramm referring to Mariendorf by her first name or coup d'etat being translated to "political changes". Modified by Ezekiel, 03-28-10, 2:08 PM |
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05-01-10, 10:17 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1860 |
tainteddonut said: Funny how Reinhard and Yang thought the exact same plan of kamikaze fortresses to win the battle early on. I thought the same thing. The way they worded it so differently was especially funny xP Beatnik said: This fortress face-off has been the best battle of the show so far. Every single step taken was logical and there was no cartoonish villain hijinks, everyone was generally cooperating with their superiors in trying to win the conflict, and it was topped with great ideas and visuals. Couldn't have said it better myself. LoGH amazes me more and more with each episode. If Julian grows up to be as magnificent a commander as Yang, I sense great future for the FPA. In addition to (hopefully) Yang's intelligence and scheming skills, he is much more focused and devoted to the military than Yang is, and at the same time not as proud as Reinhard (not to mention there would be no devil incarnate Oberstein at his side). Well, we'll see. - If you believe this place holds you, it is a prison. If you do not wish to leave, it will become a fortress. Current icon: Kusuriuri from Mononoke by pana (LJ username) |
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06-24-10, 1:35 AM
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ShinRA said: Omfg. I'm going to go shoot myself now. I wondered why think kept using various euphemisms for coup d'état when they were CLEARLY saying that in the audio.Pretty much sure that is bootleg sub. I suggest you to get CA sub |
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07-22-10, 9:19 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1416 |
Wow epic episode. Julian's plan, the execution, the fortress's explosion at the end. What's the "usable space in the corridor" part ? never heard of something like that in space. |
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08-08-10, 7:46 AM
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supersayen said: What's the "usable space in the corridor" part ? never heard of something like that in space. I think he meant that the corridor was full of alliance ships. Overall I didn't like this battle very much. Sure Yangs strategy of aiming at the engines was good. But everybody could have thought of that. It didn't need a Yang... And it sucked how the frtress just blew up after 1 shot. If I remember correctly last episode it was just meager damage. The ship ballte was also shit. When The empire fleet was inside the ring of the Alliance it looked like they almost passed them with full speed. And then on Yangs whim the Alliance fleet suddenly used the SUPERBOOSTER and blocked the Empires way... sure It seems like this anime is forcing the outcome of the fights in a way thats convenient to the story. They've shown much better fights before. |
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08-16-10, 10:16 PM
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Offline Joined: May 2010 Posts: 961 |
No, you guys are misunderstanding what Yang did. He aimed at the engines on the left side to cause the fortress to careen leftward and miss Iselhorn (if your right engines are the only ones firing, you end up careening leftward). Then afterwards he took out the fortress with a close range shot from the main weapon. The shot was more effective because unlike the previous episode, the gravity wasn't raised (the ships needed to evacuate, so the gravity couldn't be raised), and somehow in a not really well-explained manner the increased gravity was causing the previous shots to be absorbed. They've mentioned usable space before too. I'm not exactly sure what's going on, but it seems like the only two spaces the ships can go through between the empire and the alliance are the iselhorn corridor and Phezzal. The reason why is still a mystery, but I hope they explain it a bit better later on. We've still got nearly 80 episodes for them to explain it in, I wouldn't get too anxious ;) “I can't stand pretty opinions!” |
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08-17-10, 3:36 AM
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Seabury said: and somehow in a not really well-explained manner the increased gravity was causing the previous shots to be absorbed. I dont really remember, but was it because the gravity made the liquide shield 'thicker' that it become stronger...? "Droll thing life is—that mysterious arrangement of merciless logic for a futile purpose. The most you can hope from it is some knowledge of yourself—that comes too late—a crop of unextinguishable regrets." - Joseph Conrad (Heart of Darkness) |







