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| Rin is probably one of the worst MC's I've seen in a while. |
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| I officially hate Rin. Poor girls :/ but omg poor kaede Q^Q I almost want to cry. That was like her nightmare and now it's coming true. |
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| Man, to think that Kaede was my second favorite character in the beginning of the series, oh how things change. I used to prefer Asa-Kaede-Primula-Sia-Nerine, but now it is more like Asa-Nerine-Primula-Sia-Kaede. But enough of my rambling, I can't wait to see what happens next! |
| Way to make Kaede more suicidal! Ohhh ... all the drama. Obviously everyone has a full story on drama :) |
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| Kaede is completely trapped in a tug of war of self-loathing and obsession. I'm definitely not going to say I can relate to her, but I can understand how painful it is to be stuck in that feeling of being enslaved to something that you know is destroying you from the inside out. Rin has finally realized that the harem days are over and he needs to make a decision. I felt extremely bad for Kaede this time around, she's trying her hardest to express herself to Rin but he's just never stopping to properly listen to her. Not to say it's his fault though, it's just one enormous case of miscommunication. |
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| All the feels |
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kenshin_sama said: ThisSophiafrmAustria said: why are most anime leads so dumb? Having them completely ignorant isnt good writing...it just frustrates viewers...need more intelligent leads like the guy from kimi ga nozomu eien or the dude from clannad. haha believe me, rin is far from a dumb lead. he is thinking of every1 in the harem, but his dilema is that hes trying to make every1 happy when the only real way to do that is to go steady with one of them. and also there may be a good reason as to y he treats kaede the way he does, u havent seen the hints from his dreams? the past that he shared with her isnt exactly a birght one and since hes been having those dreams has probably felt less comfortable around kaede |
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| Wow it took that guy only 19! episodes to figure out that everyone is after his dick and that he can't make everyone happy. *slow clapping* Though I kinda enjoy seeing Kaede finally showing some emotions, normally I dislike bad endings but these characters are so braindead I might even enjoy it. |
| Rin has to be one of the worst MC I've ever seen in anime, he's a complete plank. |
| tbh i don't get the hate for Rin i can totally relate to him plus i think he is probably more self aware than ppl give him credit |
ColdBeans said: I really feel sorry for Kaede. She cleans the house, prepares the food, takes care of Rin, she's practically his fucking slave and yet she still gets treated like crap. I want a happy end, but why do I feel like in the end one of the characters is going to be completely screwed over? It's a 6 years old reply but...Rin told Kaede many times that she doesn't have to go to such extremes for him...that she should take it easy and relax. He didn't ask her to do all those things...he's not forced to love her, just because she played the housekeeper role. |
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| Crap .. I can't stand this anymore . Everything is just like WTF right now . Dat ending though . Let's just be ready .. our bodies especially . |
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| When MC is sleeping and Kaede barged into his room, I thought she was going to kill him but she used the power of bare naked. I wish she killed him for good. This MC is getting worse every episode and I have an urge to stab him. Btw, where is Sia and Nerine? 2.5/5 |
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| well Rin is making me mad somehow...that guy and his un decisiveness...Kaede..well don't know to sympathize with her...still Rooting for Asa |
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Here goes to stop Rin |
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| Rin is a straight up trash of an MC. This anime jumps all over with his personality. The series tries to show you that he is thoughtful and kind (which is why the girls fall for him) but it is shown that he is actually an insensitive moron. He does not take into consideration anyone's feelings but his own. I hope he gets fucking killed tbh. He does not deserve anyone. Asa would be better off without that selfish douche. |
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matrax2002 said: I don't understand all these hate on Rin and all these "oh poor Kaede" cibber.I dont , i cant , i wont.. Why can't he be direct towards Kaede and just tell her that he has no romantic feelings for her? if she can't accept that fact, then she'll get the hate instead. The fact that Rin hasn't done anything like that is the main reason he's disliked by the majority, including me. Anyway, I thought Rin have finally realized things and that he'd make the right decisions from now on, but instead he's making things worse. Instead of telling her that he loves Asa, he just leaves the house and keeps Kaede hanging. lol What's the point of the angels, demons, and artificial beings in this show? such a weird show. From fantasy rom com harem to finally a drama thriller. This show can redeem itself in my eyes if it goes the path of School days. Rin needs some stabbing! That naked Kaede though, man, if I was Rin, I wouldn't pass up the chance to "soothe" her. I guess there's a reason why I dislike Rin so much, it takes one to know one. hehe |
| I love how the consensus of these threads is basically just, "Rin is the worst MC." I mean, he is, it's just funny to see that as basically the one unifying belief of the fandom. I don't like how Kaede is apologizing the same way she was apologizing as a kid after learning the truth about what Rin did. To me it comes off as a means of self-preservation rather than actually sympathy. She's sorry that people saw her ugly side rather than actually sorry about the results of her actions. I doubt I can ever look at Kaede the same way again, and I wish I could tell my past self to not entertain her as potential best girl all those episodes ago. It is very weird that no one is acknowledging Kaede's outburst. Rin just came home and basically acted like nothing happened. Him not facing the situation is definitely not helping. I mean, when he came back to his room, did he not see the pictures on his desk of Asa's face scribbled out? I don't understand why he's acting like nothing happened. Well, at this point I feel like anything could happen. Kaede is already off the rails, so this new development isn't going to help. Though, I'm not sure if she'd ever take no for an answer to be honest. Even if Rin sat down and fully explained his feelings for Asa, which he absolutely should do, I still don't think Kaede would just happily accept it. I think ever since she started devoting herself to him this was bound to happen eventually, unless Rin had chosen Kaede. |
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| stopped by commonxreaction said: I love how the consensus of these threads is basically just, "Rin is the worst MC." I mean, he is, it's just funny to see that as basically the one unifying belief of the fandom. I don't like how Kaede is apologizing the same way she was apologizing as a kid after learning the truth about what Rin did. To me it comes off as a means of self-preservation rather than actually sympathy. She's sorry that people saw her ugly side rather than actually sorry about the results of her actions. I doubt I can ever look at Kaede the same way again, and I wish I could tell my past self to not entertain her as potential best girl all those episodes ago. It is very weird that no one is acknowledging Kaede's outburst. Rin just came home and basically acted like nothing happened. Him not facing the situation is definitely not helping. I mean, when he came back to his room, did he not see the pictures on his desk of Asa's face scribbled out? I don't understand why he's acting like nothing happened. Well, at this point I feel like anything could happen. Kaede is already off the rails, so this new development isn't going to help. Though, I'm not sure if she'd ever take no for an answer to be honest. Even if Rin sat down and fully explained his feelings for Asa, which he absolutely should do, I still don't think Kaede would just happily accept it. I think ever since she started devoting herself to him this was bound to happen eventually, unless Rin had chosen Kaede. ppl seem to ignore the details what Kade did and her obsession with Rin, obsession not love, maybe love is mixed in there to but its mostly obsession and guilt this few were examples, barking it down would be 2much work :D |
Sugram22Jul 4, 2022 7:59 AM
| wow rin and here i thought maybe you got it for a second. and then just completely went idiot again. also, he could have maybe started with an apology. |
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StateofOhayo said: wow rin and here i thought maybe you got it for a second. and then just completely went idiot again. also, he could have maybe started with an apology. Kaede bullied him in the past in ferry bad way (ways that could end with serious cons/trauma) and Rin should apology for not choosing her? lol with that kind of past there is no way he would ever chose her, and Rin let her do a lot for him (cleaning cocking all that) cause he knew she does it cause she feels guilty and if he stops her she mite go suicidal Rin should get praises instead of hate cause for her mental health he took the blame of her mothers death and endured her abuse, and u expected him to chose Kaede? lol |
Sugram22Jul 6, 2022 1:01 PM
Sugram22 said: StateofOhayo said: wow rin and here i thought maybe you got it for a second. and then just completely went idiot again. also, he could have maybe started with an apology. Kaede bullied him in the past in ferry bad way (ways that could end with serious cons/trauma) and Rin should apology for not choosing her? lol with that kind of past there is no way he would ever chose her, and Rin let her do a lot for him (cleaning cocking all that) cause he knew she does it cause she feels guilty and if he stops her she mite go suicidal Rin should get praises instead of hate cause for her mental health he took the blame of her mothers death and endured her abuse, and u expected him to chose Kaede? lol he's an inconsiderate lughead asshole and even realized it himself but chose to do possibly the worst thing. he needs a roundhouse kick to the face. |
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StateofOhayo said: Sugram22 said: Kaede bullied him in the past in ferry bad way (ways that could end with serious cons/trauma) and Rin should apology for not choosing her? lol with that kind of past there is no way he would ever chose her, and Rin let her do a lot for him (cleaning cocking all that) cause he knew she does it cause she feels guilty and if he stops her she mite go suicidal Rin should get praises instead of hate cause for her mental health he took the blame of her mothers death and endured her abuse, and u expected him to chose Kaede? lol he's an inconsiderate lughead asshole and even realized it himself but chose to do possibly the worst thing. he needs a roundhouse kick to the face. he realized that he was blind of the problems cause he was happy, happiness can sometimes blind u about issues that ppl close to u have, that doesn't make him asshole, no1 is perfect example if there is a guy who cheats on hes GF/Wife then the guy is asshole cause he does it on purpose, and ofc u can't cheat accidentally, but my point is that things like what's going on with with Rin in hes life are no1 fault, ur just bitter cause he din't chose Kade, in other words cause ur ship sunk |
Sugram22 said: StateofOhayo said: he's an inconsiderate lughead asshole and even realized it himself but chose to do possibly the worst thing. he needs a roundhouse kick to the face. he realized that he was blind of the problems cause he was happy, happiness can sometimes blind u about issues that ppl close to u have, that doesn't make him asshole, no1 is perfect example if there is a guy who cheats on hes GF/Wife then the guy is asshole cause he does it on purpose, and ofc u can't cheat accidentally, but my point is that things like what's going on with with Rin in hes life are no1 fault, ur just bitter cause he din't chose Kade, in other words cause ur ship sunk i'm just bitter? lol way to hand wave away my argument by baselessly accusing me of hurt feelings. he treats everyone around him as conveniences and has horse blinders to everyone else. that's why he spends time with one person at a time and is completely clueless the rest of the time. he had no consideration for others and often just makes things worse. he's a horrible MC. i don't much care for harem crap anyways but this was just terribly done. |
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StateofOhayo said: Sugram22 said: he realized that he was blind of the problems cause he was happy, happiness can sometimes blind u about issues that ppl close to u have, that doesn't make him asshole, no1 is perfect example if there is a guy who cheats on hes GF/Wife then the guy is asshole cause he does it on purpose, and ofc u can't cheat accidentally, but my point is that things like what's going on with with Rin in hes life are no1 fault, ur just bitter cause he din't chose Kade, in other words cause ur ship sunk i'm just bitter? lol way to hand wave away my argument by baselessly accusing me of hurt feelings. he treats everyone around him as conveniences and has horse blinders to everyone else. that's why he spends time with one person at a time and is completely clueless the rest of the time. he had no consideration for others and often just makes things worse. he's a horrible MC. i don't much care for harem crap anyways but this was just terribly done. reason why in series i mostly (most of the time) root for harem ending like in Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki (and its not complete yet, there is more to come) https://myanimelist.net/anime/41710/Genjitsu_Shugi_Yuusha_no_Oukoku_Saikenki?q=realist%20hero&cat=anime cause there all are happy, i mean all girls get happy ending but as i said sins he didn't do it on purpose its not hes fault, being blind and clueless doesn't make 1a bad guy, no1 is perfect |
Sugram22 said: StateofOhayo said: i'm just bitter? lol way to hand wave away my argument by baselessly accusing me of hurt feelings. he treats everyone around him as conveniences and has horse blinders to everyone else. that's why he spends time with one person at a time and is completely clueless the rest of the time. he had no consideration for others and often just makes things worse. he's a horrible MC. i don't much care for harem crap anyways but this was just terribly done. reason why in series i mostly (most of the time) root for harem ending like in Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki (and its not complete yet, there is more to come) https://myanimelist.net/anime/41710/Genjitsu_Shugi_Yuusha_no_Oukoku_Saikenki?q=realist%20hero&cat=anime cause there all are happy, i mean all girls get happy ending but as i said sins he didn't do it on purpose its not hes fault, being blind and clueless doesn't make 1a bad guy, no1 is perfect fair enough. i'd do a rewatch to maybe look at it a bit differently or from another angle but i just really didn't care for the show. i can respect your difference of opinion though. |
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StateofOhayo said: Sugram22 said: reason why in series i mostly (most of the time) root for harem ending like in Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki (and its not complete yet, there is more to come) https://myanimelist.net/anime/41710/Genjitsu_Shugi_Yuusha_no_Oukoku_Saikenki?q=realist%20hero&cat=anime cause there all are happy, i mean all girls get happy ending but as i said sins he didn't do it on purpose its not hes fault, being blind and clueless doesn't make 1a bad guy, no1 is perfect fair enough. i'd do a rewatch to maybe look at it a bit differently or from another angle but i just really didn't care for the show. i can respect your difference of opinion though. i know the feeling not wanting to re-watch something have u seen Ai Yori Aoshi https://myanimelist.net/anime/53/Ai_Yori_Aoshi the 2 mains infuriated me, no backbone, if he wants to marry u he has to achieve our lvl (meaning becoming rich), until he reaches the point ur relationship is a secret and both accept the terms, there is more to this not spoiling it, no back bone, Fing pussy's i would refuse to keep relationship in secret cause then other u encounter may hope something with u or her, its bad in many ways also feeds insecurity both mite fear then some1 takes other1 away from them, even if they don't u have the constant NTR fear watching it i so this series long time ago, was bit over teen early 20s, and i still cant bear to re-watch it |
Sugram22 said: StateofOhayo said: fair enough. i'd do a rewatch to maybe look at it a bit differently or from another angle but i just really didn't care for the show. i can respect your difference of opinion though. i know the feeling not wanting to re-watch something have u seen Ai Yori Aoshi https://myanimelist.net/anime/53/Ai_Yori_Aoshi the 2 mains infuriated me, no backbone, if he wants to marry u he has to achieve our lvl (meaning becoming rich), until he reaches the point ur relationship is a secret and both accept the terms, there is more to this not spoiling it, no back bone, Fing pussy's i would refuse to keep relationship in secret cause then other u encounter may hope something with u or her, its bad in many ways also feeds insecurity both mite fear then some1 takes other1 away from them, even if they don't u have the constant NTR fear watching it i so this series long time ago, was bit over teen early 20s, and i still cant bear to re-watch it i have not, but i will add it to my list, sir so thanks. i'm always looking for new stuff though i'm more into mystery/horror/adventure type stuff personally the best anime i've seen recently was vivy flourite eyes song because it was just...a masterpiece in all aspects. i mean a seriously underrated show that more people need to see. I also wish there was more kino no tabi. anyways i'm glad we could talk nicely, even if we have differing opinions. we both obviously love anime so i hope you get to see some good stuff in the future! oh you know, there's a show airing right now that is absolutely fantastic i think it's called summertime render. I wish i could binge it like i usually do, but it's so good i have to keep coming back to see the new episodes. well, anyways, all the best and thanks. |
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StateofOhayo said: Sugram22 said: i know the feeling not wanting to re-watch something have u seen Ai Yori Aoshi https://myanimelist.net/anime/53/Ai_Yori_Aoshi the 2 mains infuriated me, no backbone, if he wants to marry u he has to achieve our lvl (meaning becoming rich), until he reaches the point ur relationship is a secret and both accept the terms, there is more to this not spoiling it, no back bone, Fing pussy's i would refuse to keep relationship in secret cause then other u encounter may hope something with u or her, its bad in many ways also feeds insecurity both mite fear then some1 takes other1 away from them, even if they don't u have the constant NTR fear watching it i so this series long time ago, was bit over teen early 20s, and i still cant bear to re-watch it i have not, but i will add it to my list, sir so thanks. i'm always looking for new stuff though i'm more into mystery/horror/adventure type stuff personally the best anime i've seen recently was vivy flourite eyes song because it was just...a masterpiece in all aspects. i mean a seriously underrated show that more people need to see. I also wish there was more kino no tabi. anyways i'm glad we could talk nicely, even if we have differing opinions. we both obviously love anime so i hope you get to see some good stuff in the future! oh you know, there's a show airing right now that is absolutely fantastic i think it's called summertime render. I wish i could binge it like i usually do, but it's so good i have to keep coming back to see the new episodes. well, anyways, all the best and thanks. so kino no tabi 2017 version |
| IDK you guys, can you really blame Rin for not wanting to be around Kaede? I like her, but she is very clearly mentally unstable, not to mention all the years she spent bullying/abusing Rin. I think him wanting to move out is a step in the right direction toward establishing healthier boundaries for all parties involved. He does not seem to have romantic feelings for Kaede, so their living situation was not sustainable long term. Poor Primula... </3 Stuck in the middle of this anime soap opera drama. |
| That orange-haired girl is one of the most pathetic female characters I have ever seen in an anime...and that's saying something. |
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| Rin really is making Kaede as miserable as possible. If it's because he wants to get back at her for abusing him when they were younger, then I'd praise the anime for revealing a hidden spiteful side to his personality, but I don't think that's the case. More likely, he's just insensitive and doesn't really care much about any of the girls besides Asa. If Rin just told Kaede he loves Asa, then she'd come to terms with it, but he instead claims that he's just going to leave their house, as if he knew that's what would hurt her more in the long term. This decision seems to have subtly upset Primula somewhat too, since she also likes him. Unfortunately, I think that intriguing detail will be out of focus, like Primula usually is. At least she got to discuss Kaede's feelings with her for a minute. |
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| Kaede is reconfirmed as the best character, the choice of the protagonist was the worst he could have chosen at that moment, I'm afraid of how Kaede will behave |
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