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Yeah, I never put the community together with the game. Like some people say some games are full of hackers and it sucks, well not the game bro, the community. Why would you care, right?

Lol, them silly people. I used to run AP soraka against LB's.


I don't quite see where's the late-game in your games, you have max 3 items, that's ~mid game.
Let's take for instance the first game:
They are all tanky like hell, Tristana has 9000 range + Escape. Very unpleasant composition to play against, she's weak vs such things.
Next game is unpleasant as well, Galio/Irelia/Corki.

It's because either your team does not understand in which places you can and in which you cannot initiate teamfight, plain field(like middle) is like the worst place to have teamfight as LB, or you were tunneling only for AD, AP is carry too.
Cait, Ez, Corki, Trist, they all have escapes, it's not that easy to kill them, with any assassin champion, they will react fast enough to get away before you'll proc Q silence.

This is what Froggen basically said, didn't want to ask anything more of my wall of text-.-:

She can't oneshot AP/AD carry either if LB is Underfarmed or their carries are just too fed. In theory 6 item LB can 1 shot 6 item AD/AP carry. But that's just theory, everything comes down to the actual game. She's played almost the same as Talon, Kassadin, Akali, but the best analogy would be the Talon gameplay, because Akali is more about getting in the last moment and get penta-kill and Kassadin doesn't deal as much damage as she can do in a single burst and he has higher mobility due to ultimate. While Talon and LB they both rely on their and opponent positioning and have the obligation to 1shot AD or AP carry or else they're simply dead.
Assassins are not played in current meta, sadly enough. Tho the Korean player from MiG Blaze today played Talon in ogn.lol tournament. He was denied so much, but when he got the farm, he simply popped Vayne, which in fact was #1 NA Vayne a.k.a. Doublelift. Positioning for talon is harder compared to LB, simply because he's melee character. And they both are very dependent where the teamfight happens, bare warfield is the worst case to have.

Have you replays saved? I'm curious to see you playing her and the games in general.

Erm.. no you didn't mention that you were fed. In two games there was no big difference in gold between you and the enemy AP.
LB will be "fed" basically in every game, she's just that kind of champion.. single target damage of hers is just ridiculous, easy to roam, easy to kill people can feed on support at early levels, unless all lanes want to stay under turrets and don't want to contest their buffs. But that will not be so in every game.


Well of course, I just simply show that her damage output, which takes 2 seconds, is capable of bursting them down. Unless it's AP carry building RoA+Rylais. We can both speculate about how can the tf can go. It can get hard to theorycraft teamfight where 10 individual people are involved, so many things can go wrong, there are just too many aspects. Every game, every teamfight is unique.

Tho idk why would you jump for their carry, in very unsafe place which will 100% lead to getting cc'ed, if with your items you could literally 1shot or leave 10-20% hp of their front lane, at least that's what I'd do if there'd be no chance to get to their carry, especially if the fight is without any fog or chance to get behind/on the side of the carries. LB is for the most of the part about roaming, not only lanes but their jungle too, she just destroys and has good CC, I don't like forcing teamfight if there's a LB in my team and we're in a bad place to have a teamfight. But they didn't have that hard CC, except soraka, to stop you. If Soraka sees LB coming for them - it's just not calculated action to jump in and get silenced, LB requires very good awareness of current situation and action needs to be taken in a matter of second.


Yeah, I agree that she's very situational pick. But that comes to other that kind of, situational pick, champions too.

I hope I didn't write anything too silly, I have not slept for 30~ hours, going to take a sleep right now, later.

Well I should check the games myself, two of those games were vs Twisted Fate, I had no real problems vs them both, as both were totally retarded. One of them was vs a AD Janna, I didn't expect that much dmg output and shield to be that strong either. I don't remember the 3rd or the 4th or w/e match.

I didn't tunnelvision for their AD, but from what I've felt, I felt that I couldn't carry games by myself, I poked, used my ultimate on tanks too, just to halve their damage, or CC'ed Janna that kept on healing, or anybody that would have been a threat.

I felt uneasy with her tbh, she's far too squishy, I did play her before, but I didn't actually remember much. She seems more squishier than before.

Just made a West account, added you and Immahnoob.
Going under the name: Capuchuuu xD

Who Play Veigar ? :D so OP champion

Too easy to focus down :D.

Is there anybody who plays on NA server? :D

Hehe, there are like 12 pages man, almost all are US.


Check 'em out.

that nordic style is real fun to play

Oh okay then haha. xD If anyone wants to play with me, add: Clauddark1 :D

I love playing him vs champs like Malzahar, who can't really trade with Veigar. Imo Veigar is one of the best late-game AP champions, even before that he's damn good. DFG and just destroy.

you're in love with those one shot champs aren't ya?

Hes pretty good as a late game nuke champ, like even if you dont manage to baet the 1v1 AP Mid champion u can still farm ur AP like crazy and stomp lategame :P



Add meee as well :) Edob0b

Yeah, it's quite fun, but IMO he's one of the hardest to position with and you need to know how to use your cage too. Even if you burst one champion down, if you die right after it wasn't of much use.


EDIT: Oh yeah, I'm banned until 3 May 2012. O.o that's why you won't see me online.

They're cool, Sion, AP trist, Veigar, LB, tho I prefer champs like Cassio, Morgana, AP Janna, Mordekaiser. I don't play them much but sometimes yeah.. then the fun begins, lol.

Nice name :D.

Also, I figured I should mention that I generally only play during the weekends or on days off. The chance that I play on work days is small.

I need some advice. Lately I've been playing Warwick almost every single match, but I need some pointers on jungling. Any help in general on the topic is appreciated.

Jungling is not all that difficult really. You need to follow the general jungling pattern for a bit (depending on the champ, start at blue/red/golems/wolves) and then try and gank whenever there seems to be a good opportunity. If lanes are pushed too much, dont bother, even if your team-mates complain like mad - it's their fault.

By the way, anyone ever played Xeraph? I don't see him often but when I do he seems to be quite the power early game. Any good mid to late?