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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Akai Shuuichi is dead D: well, i don't think he is but if it is true, there better be a good reason why he had to die. |
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| care to explain who this guy was... the last time i watched this show was in the 300s somewhere |
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| Ah, finally caught up a bit with this series. I can't believe he died. ;_; I'm also thinking (hoping?) that he's not, but can't think of a way he would've gotten out of this one. @nyamo: He's an FBI agent. Edit: Oh yeah, and what a coinkidink. I watched this on Friday the 13th, and it was also Friday the 13th in this episode. |
konakonaJun 14, 2008 12:52 AM
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| lol omg 500 episodes.... is this anime really so good that it needs this much? i might check it out later......but 500+? |
| I can't believe he's dead. It has to be some trick so he can do work in the shadows. |
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| Well, I just watched this episode. Kind of weird posting here 2 years after the last comment but eh. I think the last poster hit the nail on the head. While watching this I didn't go through any emotions because I just couldn't believe he died. After watching so many shounens where the protagonists were thought to be dead but were actually alive, it just seemed like an unnatural death. I couldn't even picture it being true. I have suspicions that it could be true, especially with that line vermouth said about them not needing two silver bullets which would be a valid (and pretty much only) reason for getting rid of him. It would really be a shame though since he was the only ally Shinichi had that was actually intelligent. However, to expand on the last post and the burned body cell phone thing, I think I can figure it out: However, all the evidence right now points to him being dead so those are just suspicions. When the truck was burning it showed his body in the same position he fell in when he was shot and with rigamortis and 30 seconds, I don't think he could have gotten a corpse to fall the same way. I think it sucks that they didn't kill off an annoying character instead but it's nice to see an anime that isn't afraid of killing off popular characters. |
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| I wouldn't mind the series getting rid of an unimaginative Mary Sue like Akai, but I don't believe it. The FBI was able to confirm his death because Jodie happened to be in possession of Conan's cellphone which is because he lent it to her because her's just happened to stop working for some reason. Remember during the hospital storyline when Conan dropped the spy's cellphone in water so he couldn't use it? So I'm sure this is just another deception played by supermen Akai and Conan on that silly female Jodie. It's worth mentioning at the end of this 14-part story (well, actually there must have been at least three or four episodes' worth of unrelated material in there) about the Organization that Ai wasn't the least bit important when an Organization episode used to to mean an Ai episode. This just means that the story has wrung everything out of her and she's just a dry husk left to stand around doing nothing, I guess. Personally I find this very disappointing. Also, if I'm remembering correctly, none of the FBI characters know that Conan is actually Shinichi. This means that no one questions the presence of what they think is a 7 year-old child during any of this. That's not believable. It's like the writer has lost touch and lost interest in the "shrunk down to a child" gimmick and just ignores it. None of the other regular cast are important in this storyline so rather than a continuation of what storyline we had it's like a whole new show. The only common factor is the secret criminal organization and that's just a stock plot component. |
FronzelFeb 10, 2012 1:42 AM
Also, if I'm remembering correctly, none of the FBI characters know that Conan is actually Shinichi. I am not so sure about this because Jodie Sensei bugged and observed Professor Agasa's lab and the Professor called Conan every time Shinichi in their conversations. After all I am really sad that Akai seems to be death because he was one of my favorites. I agree with Tigerz, Conan has two mobile phones so maybe the police had the wrong finger prints and a wrong burned body. It seems a little unrealistic but maybe the CIA was involved and came up with a plan only Akai and the CIA knew about. Somehow rescueing Rena and himself. Maybe he has now a new identity and will show up in one of the final chapters, how knows? I hope Aoyama will bring him back to life in the future because it's Manga and Anime :3 |
tigerz said: That is definitely possible, I was thinking the same thing while reading his post.Fronzel said: That's Detective Conan for ya.I wouldn't mind the series getting rid of an unimaginative Mary Sue like Akai, but I don't believe it. The FBI was able to confirm his death because Jodie happened to be in possession of Conan's cellphone which is because he lent it to her because her's just happened to stop working for some reason. Fronzel said: Forgot about that but it is true for now.It's worth mentioning at the end of this 14-part story (well, actually there must have been at least three or four episodes' worth of unrelated material in there) about the Organization that Ai wasn't the least bit important when an Organization episode used to to mean an Ai episode. This just means that the story has wrung everything out of her and she's just a dry husk left to stand around doing nothing, I guess. Personally I find this very disappointing. Fronzel said: Yeah I've pointed that out a couple of times. This show has been just a weekly puzzle show, no need to further the plot, develop the characters or relationships, etc. Also, if I'm remembering correctly, none of the FBI characters know that Conan is actually Shinichi. This means that no one questions the presence of what they think is a 7 year-old child during any of this. That's not believable. It's like the writer has lost touch and lost interest in the "shrunk down to a child" gimmick and just ignores it. None of the other regular cast are important in this storyline so rather than a continuation of what storyline we had it's like a whole new show. The only common factor is the secret criminal organization and that's just a stock plot component. OT: Yeah I'm not sure that he's dead. I guess we'll have to see what happens later in the series. |
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| He'd better not be dead ;__; I'm so sad this arc is over. I want more Vermouth. |
| WTF?! Did he really just die? Anyway, that arc was pretty good and suspenseful. If he really is dead, then that was sad. If he's somehow alive, I would be really interested to see how he managed to pull that off. T_T |
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| So at the end of it all, the Black Org wins, Rena is handcuffed to them and Akai is dead. Damn that Gin... |
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| RIP Shuichi Akai. You will be missed..Great arc. I especially liked the hospital part where Conan and the FBI teamed up to transport Rena out of it safely. That was an amazing plot progression. |
| Good lord way too much bitchin' in this thread. XD Apparently y'all made it 500 episodes in without realizing what kinda show you're watchin'. XD Anyway pretty downbeat finale to this longest arc of the series so far, but the show goes on! |
| Damn this is first time someone important died in this series....I couldn't believe it but even I never thought ACE would die in One piece...So yeah everything doesn't happen as granted as always....:) |
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Fronzel said: It's worth mentioning at the end of this 14-part story (well, actually there must have been at least three or four episodes' worth of unrelated material in there) about the Organization that Ai wasn't the least bit important when an Organization episode used to to mean an Ai episode. This just means that the story has wrung everything out of her and she's just a dry husk left to stand around doing nothing, I guess. Personally I find this very disappointing. Also, if I'm remembering correctly, none of the FBI characters know that Conan is actually Shinichi. This means that no one questions the presence of what they think is a 7 year-old child during any of this. That's not believable. It's like the writer has lost touch and lost interest in the "shrunk down to a child" gimmick and just ignores it. None of the other regular cast are important in this storyline so rather than a continuation of what storyline we had it's like a whole new show. The only common factor is the secret criminal organization and that's just a stock plot component. ideefixe said: Fronzel said: I agree with most of your criticisms. If we're talking of Sues, then Conan is obviously the biggest offender, and it's brought to ridiculous levels in this arc. I was waiting for the moment where someone would comment on that 7 year old kid who's following them around, making perfect deductions and unreasonably accurate predictions, but they all seemed to ignore it. I thought that at least Eisuke of all people would at least question what the hell Conan was doing with a bunch of FBI agents. They're just stretching this way too far now. Like how the fuck did he know for certain Akai had 'died' from just the cell phone hint? It's ridiculous. No human, no matter how fucking smart would be able to figure that out with that degree of certainty. stuff Honestly, I'm starting to think this show would be more enjoyable if they just scrapped Conan and replaced him with Heiji. At least he encounters true difficulties during investigation and making deductions. Conan is just like "I'm pretty much perfect except for the 1% of the time that my dad appears and one ups me". God damn I'm just so pissed off with this. But yeah, this is yet more proof that Aoyama is a mediocre writer who neglects his strengths in favor of this pretentious nonsense. The only reason I still watch DC is because I like the characters but my patience is really wearing thin because of the almost complete lack of any growth or development in characters outside of Takagi and Haibara. Every other character is pretty much exactly the same as they were in the beginning (though their demeanours have changed throughout DC eras, these changes were the result of external factors as opposed to any development in the actual plot). That said, this arc was pretty entertaining despite my ramblings. It felt like I was watching an actual show and not some neverending bullshit shonen crap. It is pretty sad that these 15 episodes contain more substance than the other 400+... i pretty much agree with everything written in these two criticisms. There are so many things that are wrong about this anime: plot progress in a pace of 1 per 50 episodes, lack of character development (introducing them as an important character and then just wasting them like Jodei), too many inconsistencies, unrealistic events. All these reasons make it pretty clear why this show is not so popular outside of Japan. This arc still is the longest BO arc as of now which, i think, was not that much entertaining and the rest of the show will pretty much be the same. Unrelated cases, one important episode per 50 or 100 episodes etc. It's been a while since i started feeling disappointed about this show but was waiting for this clash arc to decide how to proceed. And as of today, i think i will put the show on hold for a while.. About the episode, each and every one of us is pretty sure that he is not dead, you can just say this easily after watching 500+ episodes (or maybe 300+ excluding fillers). So far there has always been a proper (or too complicated) explanation for all the impossible scenarios. And i dont think this show can waste important characters this easily while they can make a good money of them.. So.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
ember-moonMay 29, 2019 3:12 PM
| Damn bro, I don’t know what to believe, no way a badass can die like that right? Ugh now we probably gotta get through like 50 mediocre “iTs A sUiCidE” cases for a glimpse at the main story. |
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| No way I refuse to believe this... there's gotta be some tricks behind this. Just no |
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| WOW, episodes 489-504 are intense with one-hour formats leading up to the death of Akai Shūichi, who is the first major character in the series to die! |
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