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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
18 11.25%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
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09-18-10, 1:25 AM

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Just watched it, haven't watched the ONA, but i can say that i loved every bit of it...

It needs a sequel so badly, 10/10, for a movie that was as entertaining as it was informative
 
09-18-10, 3:19 PM

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Emxy said:

Both the movie and the ONA's were in hd.


HD is 720p and above.
The ONAs max out at 480, so no the ONAs were not in HD.
 
09-18-10, 3:35 PM

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I wanted more new Eve no Jikan. I... feel empty.
 
09-18-10, 8:22 PM

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The ONA was great but the movie just makes it better.
Even though the scenes are very much like the same, the additional scenes just makes it more interesting.

I always wondered what happened to Nagi, but since I watched the credits...everything is revealed. Been a while I haven't seen such a great anime movie in a while.

There's seem to be more of it but I wonder...will their ever be a sequel?
 
09-20-10, 7:59 PM

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OK, so, I gave a masterpiece rating to the ONA because, as a huge fan of Asimov's short stories, I absolutely loved everything about the 6 parts on their own and together as one continuity. As presented it left me wanting more and yet still completely satisfied. Nothing I've watched before has given me that feeling.

Then I found out that the movie was essentially identical to the ONA with a few extra scenes spliced in, so it sounded a little disappointing. Not that I would mind at all rewatching the story, I just approached it skeptically, expecting only superficial additions to smooth the episode breaks. But my god, It's amazing how much a couple of minutes of extra material added to the story. Nagi's story being told through a series of snapshots in the credits was beautiful, and Sammy's role turning out to be so much more than the ONA alone showed was brilliant. I truly feel I need an 11 rating for this.
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09-24-10, 7:58 PM

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The snapshot sequence in the end with Kajiura/kalafina's godly music was wonderfully done.

I noticed they added a bunch of new scenes but most of them are more teasers and make the entire story even more complicated. For instance, a few questions are being raised:

-Why did Sammy have a memory of being hit? Is it even her own memory? She seems to possess the memory of the broken androids and maybe even other androids. We know she is a special prototype...but her exact functions are still unknown... (android telepathy?) If it's her memory why did the member of the APC hit her? Did something go terribly wrong with an experiment?

-What exactly happened 10 years ago in that incident? We suppose that Nagi's family got attacked by the Ethics Committee... but exactly what happened and why was the newspaper censored to the public? Was there a catch and hidden secret behind the attacks?

These questions are pretty hard to answer given the current information. I don't think a second movie/series will come but you never know....

And yes... did you enjoy the time of Eve? I did. 10/10
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09-26-10, 3:54 PM

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That flashback sequence was indeed her memories, shown in reverse chronological order. It showed stills from previous scenes in the movie, Rikuo giving up on the piano after the android played at his recital, and Sammy's first experiences with the family - all from her perspective. The two short video clips were also also her own memories, but they were erased and reconstructed in the same way Katoran managed to remember his name and the child's face just before he died. So yes, I'm certain that it really was her that Dr. Ashimori hit in the lab, and her again that the man with the robot hand was reaching for. As far as her "telepathy" - we know from the opening scene that androids transmit information between them, although it isn't clear whether they do this consciously or passively. Either way this seems clear to be how she has Katoran's restored memory.

Now, the "why" of her lab accident is a lot more concealed. I still don't know what specifically she could have done that would make them strike her, but what I do know is that she has a more advanced AI - Code:Eve - as opposed to the widely used Code:Life (the 3rd generation of AI according to the book Setoro was reading). They talked about the failing reformation suppression in Code:Life, and the data screen for Sammy back in the opening scene had a warning about an unfixed deterrent circuit... so it seems to me that the APC was trying to prevent the manifestation of personalities in androids, and it's not working. Looking at the flashback with this in mind it's probable that she was acting too human in an early test and they panicked.

As far as the accident with Nagi, I think that the extremists sabotaged a robot and when it malfunctioned it cost her an arm. She was then given a prosthetic arm, making her a cyborg, and give the circumstances her identity was removed from the news reports in order to keep her safe.
 
09-26-10, 10:48 PM

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Just finished watching it. I'm confused about the ending scene with Dr. Ashimori (white haired lady and the worker). What is 1138? Why was "Time of Eve" labeled as "Kept" as opposed to "closed"? Does that mean that they kept the cafe within their watch so that they can discover what is really going on there? Or does it mean the complete opposite? I know she is not a member of the ethics group, so why does she have "Time of Eve" listed on her computer? Anybody understand this part? Thanks.
 
09-26-10, 10:55 PM

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dunno if this is allowed but can someone pm a link for for the movie. all i can find on google is the ona.

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09-27-10, 10:50 AM

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re KurosuGemu:
Dr. Ashimori is part of the APC and she's keeping an eye on the Ethics Committee. The EC made that list of known places where humans and androids were gathering, and Time of Eve was 1138th on that list. They were sending out their own androids to look for any violations, in hopes of shutting down the establishments or making arrests, but since Tex stopped the android from entering it was skipped and kept on the list for future investigation. She didn't seem too worried about them going back any time soon since it was so far down the list.
 
09-27-10, 1:51 PM

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re donsolo:
So the part where the computer labeled the Time of Eve cafe as kept- that was originally from the Ethics Committee, not the APC. Dr. Ashimori just had access somehow to the EC's list on her computer (which would explain how they know that the Time of Eve cafe was 1138th on the list). Therefore, the Time of Eve cafe is safe from any immediate danger, at least for now. Is that right? Thanks.
 
09-27-10, 2:08 PM

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Yep. That's how it looked to me.
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09-27-10, 2:30 PM

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Thanks for clearing that up!
 
10-05-10, 5:41 AM

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Shiotsuki is all sorts of awesome. He makes Code:Eve and it gets stopped. He leaves and goes about his epic resistance movement with this little coffeeshop thing. He's got great things planned for the coexistence of androids and humans, "when that Time (of Eve) comes" as mentioned by Ashimori.

He makes that shop blackboard sign thing which broadcasts the information about the shop to the androids and broadcasts the #1138 overriding protocol. He's got some crazy technical know-how.

And he's got Nagi for a foster daughter. SO AWESOME.
 
10-05-10, 12:24 PM

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Shiotsuki is all sorts of awesome. He makes Code:Eve and it gets stopped. He leaves and goes about his epic resistance movement with this little coffeeshop thing. He's got great things planned for the coexistence of androids and humans, "when that Time (of Eve) comes" as mentioned by Ashimori.

He makes that shop blackboard sign thing which broadcasts the information about the shop to the androids and broadcasts the #1138 overriding protocol. He's got some crazy technical know-how.

And he's got Nagi for a foster daughter. SO AWESOME.


Exactly, he's the man.
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10-12-10, 3:16 PM

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From what I can gather,

That's Nagi's dad who has the robotic hand and voice. Nagi lost her arm when radicals attacked her and her robot, and I assume her dad was also attacked and severity injured earlier, losing his arm also (The picture where he and Nagi are lifting both their arms in the sky together). I'm pretty sure he's either a creator, or at least a lead engineer, for androids/robots judging from how he calls them his 'children' and the blueprints you can see in one of pictures during the credits, giving a reason to why radicals would go after him and Nagi. After seeing how people were reacting to his creations, he and Nagi started the cafe to try to bring humans and robots/androids together.

At least, that's what makes sense to me.


I think you've got a pretty good handle on this Decamper.

My interpretations:

* Nagi's father is probably Shiotsuki, the creator of the code:Life AI.

* Nagi was definitely the 5 year old girl seriously injured (possibly alongside her father) in one of the Ethics Committee's attacks.

* Her father used his skills as a robot technician to rebuild her arm, and then used what he learned from that process to build more human looking androids.

* From the credits, we see that Shiotsuki argued with Dr Ashimori, the grey-haired APC chairwoman, over something… probably his plans to release updates that further blurred the lines between humans and androids (shown by the plans on the desk).

* His parting gift, when he left the APC, was a prototype called Sammy. From Sammy's memory, we see that for some reason the APC chairwoman attacked Sammy and offloaded her onto the Kousaka family.

* Shiotsuki still watches over Sammy and worries that she still "feels" (understandably) insecure.

Some unanswered questions:

* Sammy's user ID is listed on the computer record as sakisaka_690. Her AI is code:Eve… not code:Life. What's the significance of this?

* Someone in Time of Eve is broadcasting the instruction to local androids to come to the cafe… who? It may not be Nagi, as she denies that she brings anyone there.

I really loved this film, but was disappointed that some scenes from the ONA were cut, particularly the touching scene from the end where Rikuo's sister Naoko began treating Sammy more like a human.
 
10-13-10, 4:29 AM

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DBailey635 said:
Some unanswered questions:

* Sammy's user ID is listed on the computer record as sakisaka_690. Her AI is code:Eve… not code:Life. What's the significance of this?

* Someone in Time of Eve is broadcasting the instruction to local androids to come to the cafe… who? It may not be Nagi, as she denies that she brings anyone there.

I really loved this film, but was disappointed that some scenes from the ONA were cut, particularly the touching scene from the end where Rikuo's sister Naoko began treating Sammy more like a human.

Sakisaka = Rikuo's family name, which of course is shared by his entire household. The translation by the fansub is wrong.

It's not someone, but something. It's that notice board which shows the rule of the cafe. Refer to the credits for an image of Shiotsuki doing the programming of that board, and with the images with Nagi and Shiotsuki on the road, the board is always taken with them to set up the next incarnation of Time of Eve. Additionally, that board is also responsible for broadcasting the #1138 protocol. (Refer to Katoran or Tex's closeup view of the board, the background is full of the digits 1138.)
 
10-14-10, 10:43 AM

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Ottocycle said:
Sakisaka = Rikuo's family name, which of course is shared by his entire household. The translation by the fansub is wrong.


Thanks. I've just updated Wikipedia and MAL, which were showing the wrong surname.
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10-21-10, 8:01 PM

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Let it be known, this is how you make a compilation film. The added scenes, despite their short length, greatly expanded on the ONA and, for me, cleared up a few things. I'm glad we got to learn more about Sammy and Nagi, especially. 10/10, just like the ONA.
 
10-22-10, 12:30 PM

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Anything new to the story or it is just a compilation with some new scenes.
 
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