Sonic_Moronic said: The hypocrisy is going to kill me. Seriously, I'm dying here. So, the conclusion we've come to is pretty much that women are objectively more attractive then men, and so can admire each other without any sexuality involved, but men are ugly and can't admire other man because that is omg gay. Uh-huh. There. MorningGlory said: LOL!!!! lesbians more accepted than gay men?? No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay. And for the record, Monad, anime also has fanservice for girls, why do you think they put bishounen and all those romantic scenes when they could go trhough without it. And shota is also fanservice for girls. |
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| Rofl. Do you really mean what you type. Like, seriously. |
| What, this v ? Tsuyu_no_sekai said: No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay. I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in. |
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| Oh, right. Didn't realize that. *shame mode* |
Tsuyu_no_sekai said: What, this v ? Tsuyu_no_sekai said: No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay. I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in. Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! Girls, in general aren't like this, as it is less of a taboo for them. Btw I'm not saying anything against homosexuals in any way, just highlighting the psychology of all this. |
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| Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips. On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here. So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays. |
shadowsword said: Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips. On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here. So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays. True, but I think they are both accepted for the most part. Not many women hate lesbians, but quite a few men hate gays. Funny thing about sexuality is, it's a modern term, in older times, people used to have sexual relationships with whoever they wanted, though there was never gay marriage. Pretty much, "every hole was a goal" in those times. XD |
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shadowsword said: Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips. On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here. So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays. Yeah, that's how it is, and it's poppycock. |
OtonashiYuzuru said: Tsuyu_no_sekai said: What, this v ? Tsuyu_no_sekai said: No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay. I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in. Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! Girls, in general aren't like this, as it is less of a taboo for them. Btw I'm not saying anything against homosexuals in any way, just highlighting the psychology of all this. I don't know if there are more girls who are homossexual or if there are more guys that are gay, but like shadowsword said, lesbians are easily more accepted than gays (applying gay, to homossexual man). Or 'lesbian-behaviour', since sometimes even if they kiss and etc they are not homossexual. Is like girls going to the bathroom together, and two guys going to the bathroom together, what would you instantaniously think? |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
OtonashiYuzuru said: Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! A straight man finds gay sex disgusting, it has nothing to do with machoness. If you're into aesthetic female bodies your whole life, you won't find watching two big, hairy, muscular guys having sex appealing. |
| If he is homophobic, he isn't macho, because homophobia deep down is questioning and fearing your own sexuality. If somebody is truly "100% heterosexual" (oh how I hate that term), he would have no problem or with, or simply ignore gay people because he's sure of himself. It's really funny, today so many people are like this, and don't realize it. Btw. guys can shave, you know. I don't like body hair either, except on certain parts of the body where I'm attracted by a mild amount of hair, like hands. |
Sonic_MoronicAug 24, 2010 8:26 AM
No said: OtonashiYuzuru said: Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! A straight man finds gay sex disgusting, it has nothing to do with machoness. If you're into aesthetic female bodies your whole life, you won't find watching two big, hairy, muscular guys having sex appealing. I wasn't taking about sex. I don't have anything against gays (I wonder if I've said this enough lol), but I wouldn't want to watch Gay sex, but the dislike of gays, a lot of the time does stem from the belief that all males should be macho, like what they perceive themselves to be. Sonic_Moronic said: If he is homophobic, he isn't macho, because homophobia deep down is questioning and fearing your own sexuality. If somebody is truly "100% heterosexual" (oh how I hate that term), he would have no problem or with, or simply ignore gay people because he's sure of himself. It's really funny, today so many people are like this, and don't realize it. Btw. guys can shave, you know. I don't like body hair either, except on certain parts of the body where I'm attracted by a mild amount of hair, like hands. It can be about insecurity, it doesn't mean it has to be, like I said, (macho conformity), some people hate crazy people, doesn't mean they're afraid of the fact they could be crazy, It could just be that they get freaked out by the abnormality. |
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Sonic_Moronic said: If he is homophobic, he isn't macho, because homophobia deep down is questioning and fearing your own sexuality. If somebody is truly "100% heterosexual" (oh how I hate that term), he would have no problem or with, or simply ignore gay people because he's sure of himself. It's really funny, today so many people are like this, and don't realize it. Btw. guys can shave, you know. I don't like body hair either, except on certain parts of the body where I'm attracted by a mild amount of hair, like hands. I'm not homophobic, I'm talking about watching guys having sex. What's your sexual orientation btw? Just curious. |
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| Mild homophobia is understandable btw. Let's assume you have a close friend and he turns out to be gay. Then he tries to hit on you. It's obvious you freak out, just like when an ugly girl tries to get you into bed, right? |
| Agree, and when that happens, most of the time. The straight guy or is also gay (sounded weird) or he will just get some distance between him and his gay friend. Because his scared, imo. |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
| Yeah, that would be a bummer, if your friend did that, I wouldn't scared, but I'd be a lil' freaked out |
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Sonic_Moronic said: This is hilarious. I watch all kinds of loli/shota hentai, and you know how it affected me? I now despise children in RL even more because they're never cute like they are in hentai. Case closed. ^this |
MorningGlory said: LOL!!!! lesbians more accepted than gay men?? Of course, you don't see many females bashing lesbians, and ALL men LOVE lesbians. But this goes once again to the point I made before, girls (most of them anyways) are biologically better looking and have more sexuality than men. It's not hard to understand that we live in a society that embraces lesbians (especially if they are both attractive) and doesn't embrace gay men (it doesn't matter what they look like). Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN. |
Onitenshi said: No said: Onitenshi said: And if somebody likes Lolicon, is he/she a pedo? And futanari...? He is sexually attracted to little children. Futanari is for people who like both girls and dicks. sure sure...do you really believe the stuff you write? Yeah, I agree with you there. Some people watch Lolicon to see cute kids. Not because they are sexually attracted to them. This is the only type of Aninme where the main characters are kids, in most cases anyway. |
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| No, it doesn't make you a lesbian. |
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| ^ I don't like to see lesbians in action. You can't generalize your opinion. |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
| Sexuality is very complicated. It's certainly not the same as being homosexual, but there are many deviations from being heterosexual that it is a part of. Some people like the material simply because they find it "sweet", as opposed to sexually appealing. |
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No said: Sonic_Moronic said: If he is homophobic, he isn't macho, because homophobia deep down is questioning and fearing your own sexuality. If somebody is truly "100% heterosexual" (oh how I hate that term), he would have no problem or with, or simply ignore gay people because he's sure of himself. It's really funny, today so many people are like this, and don't realize it. Btw. guys can shave, you know. I don't like body hair either, except on certain parts of the body where I'm attracted by a mild amount of hair, like hands. I'm not homophobic, I'm talking about watching guys having sex. What's your sexual orientation btw? Just curious. I'm bisexual. |
Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.e |
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| It's true that we see men and women in diferent ways, like lesbians and gays (men). But that doesn't mean that women are like a slave and haves to be totally submissive.. -_- |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eIt's still a "man's world", even though women have started to get more status. Looking at the world as a whole, man still has the upper hand on almost everything. Hell, even on areas that are considered "for women", man still tends to get more credit. Back on the original topic though, it doesn't necessarily mean that if a guy/girl watches yaoi/yuri he/she's homossexual. Could be bi, bi-curious, or just doesn't care and watches it for the plot xD |
LordCooler said: Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eIt's still a "man's world", even though women have started to get more status. Looking at the world as a whole, man still has the upper hand on almost everything. Hell, even on areas that are considered "for women", man still tends to get more credit. Back on the original topic though, it doesn't necessarily mean that if a guy/girl watches yaoi/yuri he/she's homossexual. Could be bi, bi-curious, or just doesn't care and watches it for the plot xD wow, we have a chauvinist among us, seriously, don't say stuff like this, it just isn't true. |
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OtonashiYuzuru said: LordCooler said: Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eIt's still a "man's world", even though women have started to get more status. Looking at the world as a whole, man still has the upper hand on almost everything. Hell, even on areas that are considered "for women", man still tends to get more credit. Back on the original topic though, it doesn't necessarily mean that if a guy/girl watches yaoi/yuri he/she's homossexual. Could be bi, bi-curious, or just doesn't care and watches it for the plot xD wow, we have a chauvinist among us, seriously, don't say stuff like this, it just isn't true. Chauvinist? Now, don't go around accusing people like that buddy. I'm merely relating something I observe on our society. Did I ever state I'm actually in favor of men's dominance? No. I'm actually in favor of equality, it disgusts me to no end that most of us men still think we're "superior". |
| fine, but someone might think they're not racist and then go on to say that other races don't have as large of a role in society, and call it an observation, it's still racist. Men, may be physically stronger in most cases, but this is it. Still I'm glad you think that way XD, about the equality that is. |
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OtonashiYuzuru said: fine, but someone might think they're not racist and then go on to say that other races don't have as large of a role in society, and call it an observation, it's still racist. Men, may be physically stronger in most cases, but this is it. Still I'm glad you think that way XD, about the equality that is. Now, it depends a lot on the way it is delivered. If I go and say, "blacks predominate on prisons", it's merely an observation and although it's racist alright, it's clearly not meant in an offensive way(and it's actually correct by statistics, at least here in Brazil XP). Now if I say "blacks predominate on prison because they're all a bunch of thieves", now THAT'S a problem, because it's clearly meant as an offense. There's a fine line between the two, but it really changes the result. And I'm NOT racist, just in case XD |
| Though there is no factual evidence to prove that this is a "Man's world", and I'd say it goes beyond an observation into stereotyping. XD edit: If Hilary Clinton became president of America, this would most definitely not be a man's world. |
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| It's kinda hard to get evidence nowadays, since it's starting to change tables pretty quick. But go just like, 20 years ago and men's dominance so clear it's not even funny. Go a bit more and you'll be lucky to find anything that disproves it. Women weren't even considered capable of their own opinion for a long time... I just hope they don't want revenge for that >_> |
| true, but we don't live in the past, it's called progression, it's what got us out of caves. Lol, I doubt they want revenge XD |
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Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eOK, I don't want to sound sexist, but as far as women have come, they are still lacking in power and the overall dominance of men. Women still earn less than man, man still control the majority of the top positions in the work place and in government, and TV, movies, and music still use women as SEX OBJECTS. C'mon, nothing has changed, women have more rights, but the world is still leaning towards men, I never said this was a good or fair system, I just said that that's how it is. |
alexcampos said: Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eOK, I don't want to sound sexist, but as far as women have come, they are still lacking in power and the overall dominance of men. Women still earn less than man, man still control the majority of the top positions in the work place and in government, and TV, movies, and music still use women as SEX OBJECTS. C'mon, nothing has changed, women have more rights, but the world is still leaning towards men, I never said this was a good or fair system, I just said that that's how it is. undeniably true. Other than that, sexuality is a cultural thing. It may be hard to understand for someone who is not part of that culture. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| I don't watch Yaoi, it just doesn't appeal to me... at all. There is nothing wrong with watching it or liking it, but for me I really enjoy Yuri, but not Yaoi. For me it would be due to my 'sexual orientation'(straight) this is why I am turned away from Yaoi, but it's different for other people, I don't think you would be gay just because you like Yaoi. |
| I like lesbians so I might check out a yuri anime. I can't imagine a straight dude watching yaoi. I could see chicks watching yaoi because women might get sexually aroused seeing two men get it on just like a lot of guys get sexual aroused watching two o chicks get it on. If it didn't peak your interest then you would not be watching it. |
alexcampos said: Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eOK, I don't want to sound sexist, but as far as women have come, they are still lacking in power and the overall dominance of men. Women still earn less than man, man still control the majority of the top positions in the work place and in government, and TV, movies, and music still use women as SEX OBJECTS. C'mon, nothing has changed, women have more rights, but the world is still leaning towards men, I never said this was a good or fair system, I just said that that's how it is. Women get used as sex objects? Huh don't make me laugh.More like they use there sexuality. I wish i could get thousands for shaking my ass but nobody will pay me. Better jobs for men. Hmm.. i move places a lot and changed jobs. All i have to tell you is that looking at the job adds i could have always found a job a hundred times easier if i was a woman instead of a guy. Also men don't really earn much more than women in the same job at all. But i live in Europe. Also lets forget all the other benefits women get where the law, now are days is always made in there favor and men are looked as the evil muscle pound perverted bullies that must be the evil ones. There are lots of other everyday things. And where the fuck is the world leaning towards men? Every fucking male now our days only does what his wife told him to do. All we are doing is saying "Yes honey". There is equality, hell i will even go and say that women seem stronger than men now. It's just that many of you only look at certain areas like politicians and things and think only those count while completely ignoring other facts of everyday life. And by equality it doesn't mean we have to be perfectly equal at every sector, just balancing things out. Women now look at what sector men are still more involved and say immediately that it's a man's world and their capabilities are being undermined but while they want all those to be change even more in there favor, they never seem to have a problem using the fact that they are females and you have to be good to them or handle the rough things in every other little thing. |
| yeah thats right...women do things that are for mens too and better!! |
Mizore_lollipopAug 25, 2010 12:57 PM
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Women get used as sex objects? Huh don't make me laugh.More like they use there sexuality. I wish i could get thousands for shaking my ass but nobody will pay me. Looking at the wrong place. Go to a country such as Africa or places in the Middle East, and you'll see women being treated WORSE than a sex object. Also men don't really earn much more than women in the same job at all. But i live in Europe. In Europe, that might be true. But for the rest of the world? Not so much. There are places women don't earn even 1/3 of what men do on the same job, it's disgusting. yeah thats right...women do things that are for mens too and better!! Anyone can do better than anyone, it's just a question of working hard XD |
| lollopop is right, there is no reason for the world to "lean" more to males in terms of importance in jobs etc, women do everything men do, they maybe less inclined to do manual labour, but this is it. There are many women doctors, lawyers, politicians etc. Though there are places like in the Middle East where women have a low role, but in our western society this is not the case. |
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OtonashiYuzuru said: lollopop is right, there is no reason for the world to "lean" more to males in terms of importance in jobs etc, women do everything men do, they maybe less inclined to do manual labour, but this is it. There are many women doctors, lawyers, politicians etc. Though there are places like in the Middle East where women have a low role, but in our western society this is not the case. Then you are blinded by the delusion that women rights are equal to men's even in Western society. Our Western society is not as "ideal" and "utopic" as people tend to believe. And talk about women's right in Japan. It SERIOUSLY sucks because of traditional values. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
S0S_Brigade said: i like lolicon, but i am no pedo. QFT, most aren't and too much usually results in resentment of children anyway. |
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wakka9ca said: OtonashiYuzuru said: lollopop is right, there is no reason for the world to "lean" more to males in terms of importance in jobs etc, women do everything men do, they maybe less inclined to do manual labour, but this is it. There are many women doctors, lawyers, politicians etc. Though there are places like in the Middle East where women have a low role, but in our western society this is not the case. Then you are blinded by the delusion that women rights are equal to men's even in Western society. Our Western society is not as "ideal" and "utopic" as people tend to believe. And talk about women's right in Japan. It SERIOUSLY sucks because of traditional values. I in no way think the west is a Utopia, or ideal, but women's rights are equal, unless we're talking about small traditions, however if a women really wanted she could even overcome these. Lol, yeah, in Japan... edit: most people like to find things wrong with their society, it gives them something to work towards, and gives a feeling of solidarity with their peers who think likewise. |
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| i know alot of guys who like Yaoi,and arent gay. They're all drawn so damn girly anyway 9/10 times |
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OtonashiYuzuru said: wakka9ca said: OtonashiYuzuru said: lollopop is right, there is no reason for the world to "lean" more to males in terms of importance in jobs etc, women do everything men do, they maybe less inclined to do manual labour, but this is it. There are many women doctors, lawyers, politicians etc. Though there are places like in the Middle East where women have a low role, but in our western society this is not the case. Then you are blinded by the delusion that women rights are equal to men's even in Western society. Our Western society is not as "ideal" and "utopic" as people tend to believe. And talk about women's right in Japan. It SERIOUSLY sucks because of traditional values. I in no way think the west is a Utopia, or ideal, but women's rights are equal, unless we're talking about small traditions, however if a women really wanted she could even overcome these. Lol, yeah, in Japan... edit: most people like to find things wrong with their society, it gives them something to work towards, and gives a feeling of solidarity with their peers who think likewise. Last time I checked Women still aren't aloud to serve in the Infantry Women aren't aloud in any Major League Sport Women Still earn half of what a man does in the work place Women get hired half as much as men do Women have to work twice as hard as a man does to achieve the same potions and status Women are under represented in nearly EVERY job field. Women still run into glass ceilings in many job fields Women have half the career success rate men do If you think a woman's rights are anywhere near Equal as man's rights in the West your woefully naive. |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| lol, when was the last time you checked?? plus, I watched the Women's world cup rugby the other day, England won XD plus If you read one of my previous posts, I said that, obviously, as there is a difference in men and women men will be me more suited to things that involve more manual labour, that doesn't make the world un-balanced at all, and women get paid just as much as men do, at least they do in England. PS. Hilary Clinton would have had a pretty high ceiling if she became President. |
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