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Aug 23, 2010 7:17 AM

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McNagah said:
<_<... I'm pretty sure my question wasn't off topic that much...

It wasn't, I was just hoping it was your way of answering 'no' to the OP's question, since from what have been said above you could find the answer to your question.

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If someone likes traps/reverse traps does that make them gay/lesbian?

That's all about the looks, you have girls drooling over muscled men and you have girls that prefer guys with a more feminine look. The same applies to buys.
Is like asking if a person who likes fat people wishes to be or is fat.

^I'm straight and I like to read some shounen ai, and I don't think that I might be gay nor do I feel attracted to other guys, in other words I'm certain about my sexual orientation.
I also don't like yuri
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Aug 23, 2010 7:45 AM

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Hmmm,, This is a tough question....I think fiction is much more "cleaner"+"safer" + "easier" compare to reality?
All you need to do is to turn on the monitor and the yuri/Yaoi is just right in front of you.^_^
I think most people who prefer Yuri/Yaoi in Anime are not lesbian/gay.
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Aug 23, 2010 8:07 AM

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no, because some lesbians like yaoi and some straight women love yuri.

argument is invalid.
 
Aug 23, 2010 9:30 AM

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I don't get this, How can I watch two guys fucking each other and not be gay???

If I watch gay porn, it's most likely because I'm gay or bi-curious, I think the same should be applied with Yaoi.

I'm not hating on anyone, I don't have any ill feelings towards gays, but; if I started to watch Yaoi, I would think I'm no longer playing for the "straight" team.
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Aug 23, 2010 10:32 AM

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alexcampos said:
I don't get this, How can I watch two guys fucking each other and not be gay???

Like watching two guys killing each other and not be a mental-sick psycho? The keyterm is fiction
 
Aug 23, 2010 11:00 AM

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Onitenshi said:
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I don't get this, How can I watch two guys fucking each other and not be gay???

Like watching two guys killing each other and not be a mental-sick psycho? The keyterm is fiction


I don't think that's the same, killing is frowned upon by society, there's nothing wrong with being gay.

Yaoi may be fiction in terms of the characters and story, but the actual act is something that happens in real life EVERYDAY, killing is not OK by any terms, unless it's a war.
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Aug 23, 2010 3:19 PM

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alexcampos said:
I don't think that's the same, killing is frowned upon by society, there's nothing wrong with being gay.
Being gay is frowned upon by a lot of people... But I guess killing is more frowned upon...
 
Aug 23, 2010 3:36 PM

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I'm completely straight and I like watching/reading things about homosexual couples on occasion. It's romance, and I like romance.
 
Aug 23, 2010 5:17 PM

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alexcampos said:
I don't get this, How can I watch two guys fucking each other and not be gay???

If I watch gay porn, it's most likely because I'm gay or bi-curious, I think the same should be applied with Yaoi.

I'm not hating on anyone, I don't have any ill feelings towards gays, but; if I started to watch Yaoi, I would think I'm no longer playing for the "straight" team.


This reminded me of something from a movie or show I've seen. Don't recall what it was exactly, but the joke/arguement was that everyone's a little gay/curious. Sure, you watch straight porn, but don't you love it when the guy blows all over the girl?

So no, I don't believe watching/reading yaoi/yuri makes you gay. Everyone's just a little curious and everyone watches it for different reasons.
 
Aug 23, 2010 7:24 PM

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I say yes.
 
Aug 23, 2010 7:50 PM

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Embah said:
I'm completely straight and I like watching/reading things about homosexual couples on occasion. It's romance, and I like romance.


True. I mean.. My point it's if the story is worth reading why shouldn't i? I'm totally straight yet i kinda like shounen-ai and yaoi too
 
Aug 23, 2010 8:20 PM

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Haydee said:

This reminded me of something from a movie or show I've seen. Don't recall what it was exactly, but the joke/arguement was that everyone's a little gay/curious. Sure, you watch straight porn, but don't you love it when the guy blows all over the girl?

So no, I don't believe watching/reading yaoi/yuri makes you gay. Everyone's just a little curious and everyone watches it for different reasons.


Well, when you watch a blowjob scene, most of the time you are fantasizing about being that guy who is fucking the girl or being the guy who just cum shot all over some whore.

But mostly you enjoy watching the girl get fucked or licked or whatever, the point is you are there to see and enjoy the GIRL, not the guy.

I would say 70% of the porn I watch is Lesbians, 20% 3-somes or some kind of scene involving 1 guy and 2+ girls, and finally 10% 1 girl 1 guy scenes.

NOW, what the hell can I fantasize with watching 2 guys fuck each other???
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Aug 24, 2010 12:54 AM

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alexcampos said:
Haydee said:

This reminded me of something from a movie or show I've seen. Don't recall what it was exactly, but the joke/arguement was that everyone's a little gay/curious. Sure, you watch straight porn, but don't you love it when the guy blows all over the girl?

So no, I don't believe watching/reading yaoi/yuri makes you gay. Everyone's just a little curious and everyone watches it for different reasons.


Well, when you watch a blowjob scene, most of the time you are fantasizing about being that guy who is fucking the girl or being the guy who just cum shot all over some whore.

But mostly you enjoy watching the girl get fucked or licked or whatever, the point is you are there to see and enjoy the GIRL, not the guy.

I would say 70% of the porn I watch is Lesbians, 20% 3-somes or some kind of scene involving 1 guy and 2+ girls, and finally 10% 1 girl 1 guy scenes.

NOW, what the hell can I fantasize with watching 2 guys fuck each other???


You don't necessarily have to fantasize anything. You can just watch 2 guys fuck each other with an old kindergarten friend of yours just for the lols. Just like that, someone could have a reason for watching it without being gay or curious at all! :)
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Aug 24, 2010 1:29 AM

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Mizore_lollipop said:
haha well Im a girl...I like yuri and yaoi,I Definitely not a lesbian.
But some guys like yaoi and the people think they are gay just because they like it...(I dont have anything against Gays or lesbian)


Don't be so sure, you are still a teenager. maybe you do have a thing for women and you don't know it yet. Maybe you are bisexual?

Well anyway i can't say about women since am not one but considering women magazines still have women on there covers i will say a woman body is considered as a pleasant side even if it's not your sexual preference.
Men on the other hand don't work that way.

So i think there is a bigger possibility of a man being gay if he likes yaoi than a woman being gay if she likes yuri. For straight men the view of manly naked bodies doing shit is like torture far more than it is for women watching women doing shit. I find it very hard to beleive that a guy isn't at least bisexual if he likes yaoi.

As i say girls are like cats. We all find them cute even if we obviously have no sexual desire. The same goes with beautiful women. They are a pretty side even by asexual standards (Notice how gay men still find girls beautiful while lesbians mostly find men disgusting). So an act between two beautiful creatures is not as bad to watch for a straight woman.

For the same reason women are a lot more tolerable to all the fanservice thrown for men. I tell you now. If anime had male fanservice in the quantity anime now have female fanservice, all straight males would stop watching anime. Yet girls still watch anime despite seeing cute fanservice girls every few minutes. Why? Because it's let awful for them.

Of course if there is a place where a straight man might tolerate watching gay male staff then that is probably yaoi anime and manga since they look further from reality. Hell half the guys look almost like girls.
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Aug 24, 2010 5:43 AM

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For straight men the view of manly naked bodies doing shit is like torture far more than it is for women watching women doing shit. I find it very hard that a guy isn't at least bisexual if he likes yaoi.


YES, I have to agree with this, I can't find it in me to watch that type of stuff, I don't have anything against gays, but watching two males do that really puts me in an uncomfortable position and it is like torture, I have watched very few anime that have included yaoi scenes (Ouran was probably the only one) and I was able to get through it only because it was a comedy, if it had been serious, I WOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED IT. I also find it hard to believe that a male can enjoy Yaoi and NOT be gay.

Girls are biologically better looking and have more sexuality than men, I can understand girls watching ecchi and even yuri anime and not being lesbians. In fact I remember a female friend once watching R+V and enjoying it, I asked her if she didn't mind the panty shots and the fact that it was meant for guys, she said that she enjoyed watching the comedy and that the girls looked hot and that there was nothing wrong with enjoying an anime that featured bishoujos.
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Aug 24, 2010 5:52 AM

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I just can't watch yaoi at all, even Ouran was too much for me (the twins..MAKE IT STOP D:) I love Yuri however since it's actually cute most of the times.
 
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Monad said:
For straight men the view of manly naked bodies doing shit is like torture far more than it is for women watching women doing shit. I find it very hard that a guy isn't at least bisexual if he likes yaoi.


The only problem comes when these said "manly naked bodies" are more feminine than girls and their faces cuter than most girls.

East Asian male beauty usually comes from femininity, unlike Western male beauty with the manliness factor. This is why guys can enjoy reading/watching yaoi.

As for sexual arousal, there are many ways you may have not yet discovered. You may come to discover that gay sex can be more satisfying than straight sex...

And yes, it makes you slightly bisexual. Mainly because how perfect and cute the guys look like.
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The hypocrisy is going to kill me. Seriously, I'm dying here.

So, the conclusion we've come to is pretty much that women are objectively more attractive then men, and so can admire each other without any sexuality involved, but men are ugly and can't admire other man because that is omg gay.

Uh-huh.
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LOL!!!!
lesbians more accepted than gay men??
 
Aug 24, 2010 7:36 AM

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MorningGlory said:
LOL!!!!
lesbians more accepted than gay men??


Don't tell me you're surprised, it was always this way. Find a female who hates lesbians. It's obvious that they're more tolerant than men towards gays. Also, I've yet to meet a girl my age who's not at least bi-curious and wouldn't want to try it with a girl at least once.
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Sonic_Moronic said:
The hypocrisy is going to kill me. Seriously, I'm dying here.

So, the conclusion we've come to is pretty much that women are objectively more attractive then men, and so can admire each other without any sexuality involved, but men are ugly and can't admire other man because that is omg gay.

Uh-huh.

There.

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LOL!!!!
lesbians more accepted than gay men??

No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay.

And for the record, Monad, anime also has fanservice for girls, why do you think they put bishounen and all those romantic scenes when they could go trhough without it. And shota is also fanservice for girls.
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Aug 24, 2010 7:44 AM

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Rofl. Do you really mean what you type. Like, seriously.
 
Aug 24, 2010 7:54 AM

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Tsuyu_no_sekai said:
No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay.


I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in.
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Oh, right. Didn't realize that. *shame mode*
 
Aug 24, 2010 8:00 AM

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No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay.


I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in.


Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! Girls, in general aren't like this, as it is less of a taboo for them.
Btw I'm not saying anything against homosexuals in any way, just highlighting the psychology of all this.
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Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips.

On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here.

So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays.
 
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Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips.

On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here.

So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays.


True, but I think they are both accepted for the most part. Not many women hate lesbians, but quite a few men hate gays.
Funny thing about sexuality is, it's a modern term, in older times, people used to have sexual relationships with whoever they wanted, though there was never gay marriage. Pretty much, "every hole was a goal" in those times. XD
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shadowsword said:
Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips.

On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here.

So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays.


Yeah, that's how it is, and it's poppycock.
 
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No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay.


I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in.


Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! Girls, in general aren't like this, as it is less of a taboo for them.
Btw I'm not saying anything against homosexuals in any way, just highlighting the psychology of all this.


I don't know if there are more girls who are homossexual or if there are more guys that are gay, but like shadowsword said, lesbians are easily more accepted than gays (applying gay, to homossexual man). Or 'lesbian-behaviour', since sometimes even if they kiss and etc they are not homossexual.

Is like girls going to the bathroom together, and two guys going to the bathroom together, what would you instantaniously think?
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OtonashiYuzuru said:
Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!!


A straight man finds gay sex disgusting, it has nothing to do with machoness. If you're into aesthetic female bodies your whole life, you won't find watching two big, hairy, muscular guys having sex appealing.
 
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If he is homophobic, he isn't macho, because homophobia deep down is questioning and fearing your own sexuality. If somebody is truly "100% heterosexual" (oh how I hate that term), he would have no problem or with, or simply ignore gay people because he's sure of himself.

It's really funny, today so many people are like this, and don't realize it.

Btw. guys can shave, you know. I don't like body hair either, except on certain parts of the body where I'm attracted by a mild amount of hair, like hands.
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Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!!


A straight man finds gay sex disgusting, it has nothing to do with machoness. If you're into aesthetic female bodies your whole life, you won't find watching two big, hairy, muscular guys having sex appealing.


I wasn't taking about sex. I don't have anything against gays (I wonder if I've said this enough lol), but I wouldn't want to watch Gay sex, but the dislike of gays, a lot of the time does stem from the belief that all males should be macho, like what they perceive themselves to be.

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If he is homophobic, he isn't macho, because homophobia deep down is questioning and fearing your own sexuality. If somebody is truly "100% heterosexual" (oh how I hate that term), he would have no problem or with, or simply ignore gay people because he's sure of himself.

It's really funny, today so many people are like this, and don't realize it.

Btw. guys can shave, you know. I don't like body hair either, except on certain parts of the body where I'm attracted by a mild amount of hair, like hands.


It can be about insecurity, it doesn't mean it has to be, like I said, (macho conformity), some people hate crazy people, doesn't mean they're afraid of the fact they could be crazy, It could just be that they get freaked out by the abnormality.
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Sonic_Moronic said:
If he is homophobic, he isn't macho, because homophobia deep down is questioning and fearing your own sexuality. If somebody is truly "100% heterosexual" (oh how I hate that term), he would have no problem or with, or simply ignore gay people because he's sure of himself.

It's really funny, today so many people are like this, and don't realize it.

Btw. guys can shave, you know. I don't like body hair either, except on certain parts of the body where I'm attracted by a mild amount of hair, like hands.


I'm not homophobic, I'm talking about watching guys having sex.
What's your sexual orientation btw? Just curious.
 
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I'm Gay




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Mild homophobia is understandable btw. Let's assume you have a close friend and he turns out to be gay. Then he tries to hit on you. It's obvious you freak out, just like when an ugly girl tries to get you into bed, right?
 
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Agree, and when that happens, most of the time. The straight guy or is also gay (sounded weird) or he will just get some distance between him and his gay friend. Because his scared, imo.
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Yeah, that would be a bummer, if your friend did that, I wouldn't scared, but I'd be a lil' freaked out
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This is hilarious.

I watch all kinds of loli/shota hentai, and you know how it affected me? I now despise children in RL even more because they're never cute like they are in hentai. Case closed.


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MorningGlory said:
LOL!!!!
lesbians more accepted than gay men??


Of course, you don't see many females bashing lesbians, and ALL men LOVE lesbians.

But this goes once again to the point I made before, girls (most of them anyways) are biologically better looking and have more sexuality than men.

It's not hard to understand that we live in a society that embraces lesbians (especially if they are both attractive) and doesn't embrace gay men (it doesn't matter what they look like).

Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN.
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And if somebody likes Lolicon, is he/she a pedo? And futanari...?


He is sexually attracted to little children.
Futanari is for people who like both girls and dicks.

sure sure...do you really believe the stuff you write?


Yeah, I agree with you there. Some people watch Lolicon to see cute kids. Not because they are sexually attracted to them. This is the only type of Aninme where the main characters are kids, in most cases anyway.











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No, it doesn't make you a lesbian.











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^ I don't like to see lesbians in action. You can't generalize your opinion.
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Sexuality is very complicated. It's certainly not the same as being homosexual, but there are many deviations from being heterosexual that it is a part of.

Some people like the material simply because they find it "sweet", as opposed to sexually appealing.

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If he is homophobic, he isn't macho, because homophobia deep down is questioning and fearing your own sexuality. If somebody is truly "100% heterosexual" (oh how I hate that term), he would have no problem or with, or simply ignore gay people because he's sure of himself.

It's really funny, today so many people are like this, and don't realize it.

Btw. guys can shave, you know. I don't like body hair either, except on certain parts of the body where I'm attracted by a mild amount of hair, like hands.


I'm not homophobic, I'm talking about watching guys having sex.
What's your sexual orientation btw? Just curious.


I'm bisexual.
 
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Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN
wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.e

 
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It's true that we see men and women in diferent ways, like lesbians and gays (men). But that doesn't mean that women are like a slave and haves to be totally submissive.. -_-
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Mizore_lollipop said:
Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN
wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.e

It's still a "man's world", even though women have started to get more status. Looking at the world as a whole, man still has the upper hand on almost everything. Hell, even on areas that are considered "for women", man still tends to get more credit.

Back on the original topic though, it doesn't necessarily mean that if a guy/girl watches yaoi/yuri he/she's homossexual. Could be bi, bi-curious, or just doesn't care and watches it for the plot xD
 
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Mizore_lollipop said:
Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN
wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.e

It's still a "man's world", even though women have started to get more status. Looking at the world as a whole, man still has the upper hand on almost everything. Hell, even on areas that are considered "for women", man still tends to get more credit.

Back on the original topic though, it doesn't necessarily mean that if a guy/girl watches yaoi/yuri he/she's homossexual. Could be bi, bi-curious, or just doesn't care and watches it for the plot xD


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OtonashiYuzuru said:
LordCooler said:
Mizore_lollipop said:
Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN
wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.e

It's still a "man's world", even though women have started to get more status. Looking at the world as a whole, man still has the upper hand on almost everything. Hell, even on areas that are considered "for women", man still tends to get more credit.

Back on the original topic though, it doesn't necessarily mean that if a guy/girl watches yaoi/yuri he/she's homossexual. Could be bi, bi-curious, or just doesn't care and watches it for the plot xD


wow, we have a chauvinist among us, seriously, don't say stuff like this, it just isn't true.

Chauvinist? Now, don't go around accusing people like that buddy. I'm merely relating something I observe on our society. Did I ever state I'm actually in favor of men's dominance? No. I'm actually in favor of equality, it disgusts me to no end that most of us men still think we're "superior".
 
Aug 24, 2010 3:47 PM

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fine, but someone might think they're not racist and then go on to say that other races don't have as large of a role in society, and call it an observation, it's still racist. Men, may be physically stronger in most cases, but this is it.
Still I'm glad you think that way XD, about the equality that is.
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