| fans of this manga/anime are mostly kids anyway. Sending out mails to mangakas praising their works but not buying it legally. hahhahhaa. I agree that's an insult. common things like manga anime music and movies should be made in the first place for the fans not for the money agree, that's crazy. Always part of all of that is all about MONEY. Work = Money. Comic artists are not rich or that well paid as opposed to what many would think. Beside as a hobby, it is also an occupation where they are supposed to get paid for it. Those who are not working yet doesn't know how it feels when not being paid well. Crazy Kids - they don't know what they're saying. Duh. Just wait until you start working yourselves. |
| Live the life that you love, Love the life that you live... We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world. - The Buddha |
Moimy said: And there I thought she was talking about something else when she said 'Moral Deterioration'. Haha me too. What's with all the pedo not-so-much subtext in Kuroshitsuji 2 anyway? The lesson to be learned here is: if you download someone's stuff for free, it's probably a good idea not to tell them. |
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Rizzle said: Manga volumes in English come out slower than chapters of HunterxHunter. That's the main reason I don't buy one of my fave mangas, they're released once every... 4/5 months, insanely behind the japanese counterparts and there's no sign of it getting faster, this time next year volume 6 will be released, and there's like 12 volumes out now, it's shocking, and yen press are huge pushers of c&ds too, slow gimps. AikoD said: Haha me too. What's with all the pedo not-so-much subtext in Kuroshitsuji 2 anyway? Her morals may well focus on money :p she could be the type who'd hang someone for fraud, but tap a guy who plays shares intimate moments with a child in short shorts on the wrist. |
BakaKawaii said: AikoD said: Haha me too. What's with all the pedo not-so-much subtext in Kuroshitsuji 2 anyway? Her morals may well focus on money :p she could be the type who'd hang someone for fraud, but tap a guy who plays shares intimate moments with a child in short shorts on the wrist. This...100% agreed |
| I hate her, and her show sucks. How dare she says something like that -_-. How can we support the manga artist anyway? By spending 9 euro's on one manga volume? If we buy 10 volumes here, we have to pay 90 euro's. In Japan that's maybe 20 - 30 euro's. I'm not willing to pay that. Besides, the Kuroshitsuji II hasn't even released on DVD yet. |
Nerdo said: I hate her, and her show sucks. How dare she says something like that -_-. How can we support the manga artist anyway? By spending 9 euro's on one manga volume? If we buy 10 volumes here, we have to pay 90 euro's. In Japan that's maybe 20 - 30 euro's. I'm not willing to pay that. Besides, the Kuroshitsuji II hasn't even released on DVD yet. Then don't read manga. You have no right to this material and if you don't think it has any value then you shouldn't read it. Truth of the matter is the manga industry is hurting and most mangka don't make a lot of money and are struggling to get by. |
burntlettuce said: Nerdo said: I hate her, and her show sucks. How dare she says something like that -_-. How can we support the manga artist anyway? By spending 9 euro's on one manga volume? If we buy 10 volumes here, we have to pay 90 euro's. In Japan that's maybe 20 - 30 euro's. I'm not willing to pay that. Besides, the Kuroshitsuji II hasn't even released on DVD yet. Then don't read manga. You have no right to this material and if you don't think it has any value then you shouldn't read it. Truth of the matter is the manga industry is hurting and most mangka don't make a lot of money and are struggling to get by. The manga would have to be relatively successful to be licensed abroad, so I doubt that those mangaka are struggling to get by, maybe the no named newbies over in japan, but not over here. Other than that; 90 euros is 30-40 euros in japan? Genius. |
| I think from the view of a fan it will make a greater impact if you write a fan letter to the author of your favourite manga then buying a single copy of their work. After all, it's not like the author really 'gets to know you' when you buy one manga volume LOL. But when you write a letter, she'll eventually notice you, especially if you write things that outrage her hahaha.. Actually, this statement from her only shows that she's way more interested in the money than anything else. There are authors who are after the fame, and there are authors who write because it's their passion. But she's just frustrated that some people are ripping her off of her chance to get even more money LOL. Because we all know that she's OBVIOUSLY NOT STARVING, as Kuroshitsuji is so damn popular in Japan (just how much money did she get from the anime and musical adaptions, and the fan merchandise??). Then again, the majority of the fandom outside japan react pissed when mangakas or people from the industry want to make them into "real fans aka fans who pay", so her statement will backfire, or already has. Hurray! And this is not about who's the "real fan" and who's not, the truth is that they're all only after the money of the people who consume Kuroshitsuji in any way. I bet if you pay for all manga volumes, DVDs or whatever, but write her a hatemail stating that her work is "one hell of a shounen ai plotless crap" (for example) she'll still place you in the fan caterogy, or ex-fan caterogy :D Edit: After reading most of the opinions, it would be funny if someone would send her the link of this topic. She might be quite surprised to see the reaction of her "false fans" and "true fans" |
HimmelmezAug 23, 2010 9:06 AM
Himmelmez said: Then again, the majority of the fandom outside japan react pissed when mangakas or people from the industry want to make them into "real fans aka fans who pay", so her statement will backfire, or already has. Hurray! The real fans who have to wait 4/5 months for a volume release, having 2 volumes out right now, they can relax with the knowledge that they'll catch up in a few years or so. |
| I know this isn't going to happen, but it would be interesting if only the paying people continue to read her manga, and all the downloaders move on to something else. She'd see a lot less hype about her manga on the internet, less fanwork, less discussions, etc. I think I'm right in saying that a lot of her "morally deteriorated" fans (the ones who don't pay, lol) are the people who made the manga popular enough worldwide for it to be licensed internationally in the first place. Sorry if this post is difficult to understand, I'm kind of tired today -__- |
| I love how people seem to think it's a privilege for the author's work to be illegally distributed. She is SO ungrateful. pfft |
shinkeikaku said: I love how people seem to think it's a privilege for the author's work to be illegally distributed. She is SO ungrateful. pfft Kinda makes you wonder how many people actually listened to this past week's ANNcast episode on Anime News Network that touched on EXACTLY this! Himmelmez said: Actually, this statement from her only shows that she's way more interested in the money than anything else. There are authors who are after the fame, and there are authors who write because it's their passion. Here is my problem with that statement. It is too black and white for me to believe that's the case. I'm pretty sure depending on the artist for whatever reason, it is more-so either: A) "love of passion first, need of money second" or B) "need of money first, love of passion second" as oppose to "need of money first, love of passion never" or vice versa. |
HypeathonAug 23, 2010 12:25 PM
| ^Hey hey now, I know it's just a typo, but I resent having that second line of spew being tacked with my username. |
Rizzle said: I know this isn't going to happen, but it would be interesting if only the paying people continue to read her manga, and all the downloaders move on to something else. She'd see a lot less hype about her manga on the internet, less fanwork, less discussions, etc. I think I'm right in saying that a lot of her "morally deteriorated" fans (the ones who don't pay, lol) are the people who made the manga popular enough worldwide for it to be licensed internationally in the first place. Sorry if this post is difficult to understand, I'm kind of tired today -__- Your post was very understandable and very much agree with you. I, for one, have saw her Kuroshitsuji art first (a volume cover) on one of these anime boards and so I decided to give Kuroshitsuji a try. I think the majority of the Kuroshitsuji fans, like me, have heard/saw her work on the net. Kuroshitsuji would never be so popular without the net - like most manga/anime anyway. I think she should think well before saying things like these. And just to add: If I were a mangaka, I would very much prefer my work to be enjoyed and to have people who admire me for what I do instead of lots of money. Yana seems to think the opposite - I think she doesn't really like her fans. |
shinkeikaku said: ^Hey hey now, I know it's just a typo, but I resent having that second line of spew being tacked with my username. *laughes* Sorry about that, the lighting is annoyingly dark in my room and it's making me feel too drowsy to concentrate on my typing that well. I will edit that as soon as I can (which probably will have already been edited by the time you see it). |
| It is not only Yana Toboso. It wishes your deaths in all comic artist. shadowsword said: Rizzle said: And just to add: If I were a mangaka, I would very much prefer my work to be enjoyed and to have people who admire me for what I do instead of lots of money. Yana seems to think the opposite - I think she doesn't really like her fans. Send a message to a comic artist in a sentence as is. XD Might how about this person. http://d.hatena.ne.jp/nakamuraching/ She does 2-year serialization; and around 10 million yen(120000$) debt increase and the comic artist who worked as. You may get a wonderful answer. |
shadowsword said: And just to add: If I were a mangaka, I would very much prefer my work to be enjoyed and to have people who admire me for what I do instead of lots of money. Yana seems to think the opposite - I think she doesn't really like her fans. You say that until you can't pay rent, or your electricity gets shut off for not making enough money. It's funny how little fan's value these artist works. This is a service given to us, and it's her property. She has every right to get upset at people stealing her work. |
| I personally watch the anime online VIA download and If I find it to be good, I purchase it when available. To be honest, I don't have money to disperse on un-important items, however anime has earned a spot in my budget when I chose to support a certain company. |
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burntlettuce said: shadowsword said: And just to add: If I were a mangaka, I would very much prefer my work to be enjoyed and to have people who admire me for what I do instead of lots of money. Yana seems to think the opposite - I think she doesn't really like her fans. You say that until you can't pay rent, or your electricity gets shut off for not making enough money. It's funny how little fan's value these artist works. This is a service given to us, and it's her property. She has every right to get upset at people stealing her work. Huh? Read my earlier post. I am struggling to pay them already don't worry. |
| The industry is to blame for 'fans' habits of wanting anime for free and for making mangaka's so poor relying nearly completely on graphic novel sales to make money. Everything is so messed up there right now it's no wonder that she would speak out like she did. Normally mangaka's are just happy to receive letters from fans, but when the majority of fans talk about getting her work for free, it really isn't fair to them. Those that can't afford it, get it any way you can and I'm sure that the mangaka would just be happy to have a fan. Get it for free because that's how you've grown to think of manga/anime? That's the real problem. |
shadowsword said: Rizzle said: I know this isn't going to happen, but it would be interesting if only the paying people continue to read her manga, and all the downloaders move on to something else. She'd see a lot less hype about her manga on the internet, less fanwork, less discussions, etc. I think I'm right in saying that a lot of her "morally deteriorated" fans (the ones who don't pay, lol) are the people who made the manga popular enough worldwide for it to be licensed internationally in the first place. Sorry if this post is difficult to understand, I'm kind of tired today -__- Your post was very understandable and very much agree with you. I, for one, have saw her Kuroshitsuji art first (a volume cover) on one of these anime boards and so I decided to give Kuroshitsuji a try. I think the majority of the Kuroshitsuji fans, like me, have heard/saw her work on the net. Kuroshitsuji would never be so popular without the net - like most manga/anime anyway. I think she should think well before saying things like these. And just to add: If I were a mangaka, I would very much prefer my work to be enjoyed and to have people who admire me for what I do instead of lots of money. Yana seems to think the opposite - I think she doesn't really like her fans. +1 I doubt that she has problems with paying bills e.t.c. popular mangaka`s are getting enough i`m not talking about shounen jump mangakas. *Saw Kubo`s flat* He`s soooo not poor. Without net and stuff mangakas would have less readers and less money. People from abroad wouldn`t even know about anime, manga and wouldn`t buy them. As i see some fans from other countries buy manga from japan. Mangakas should be happy about that. This kind of posts looks for fans like "if you`re not japanese wait for official releases in your country or watch crappy key hole." Like hell i`m getting this in MY country. In 100 years maybe... well since this post was for japanese fans it`s understandable however, mangaka`s should start thinking about fans from other countries too an improvement in manga and anime industry is needed And...it`s been years since kuroshitsuji being pirated. Why didn`t she have problems until now? She`s just annoyed with stupid messages. I understand her here. But this post in her blog will only bring here more new stupid messages |
Yuki_no_kodomoAug 26, 2010 3:24 AM
dtshyk said: She often receives letters from fans writing that "I borrowed scanned manga in ROMs from my friend wwww (i.e. lol)" What the heck is the "wwww" at the end there? That's Japanese for "lol" or something? |
| I'd love to buy her manga and anime but the thing is I live in a country where there is NO manga at all. When I travel on vacation I buy a lot and I buy Kuroshitsuji too, I'm not interested in buying dubbed anime but at least I buy mangas. When my parents give me the chance, I order from the internet sometimes. Many of us have their own excuses for not purchasing those things and that's my reason. But think about it, if anime was also lisenced on the web, then how would anyone ever get any fans? You know what I mean? Because of this streaming she now has fans like form all over the world. If everything got lisenced, then the fans will only be those who are in Japan or Korean? I don't know but she'll have less fans that way. Anime is a different case than manga, which you can read. The anime shows on TV which is free, so what's the difference if I watch it free here or on TV in Japane? It's pretty much the same thing |
Aoiyuki92Aug 26, 2010 10:44 AM
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NorikoW said: But think about it, if anime was also lisenced on the web, then how would anyone ever get any fans? You know what I mean? Because of this streaming she now has fans like form all over the world. If everything got lisenced, then the fans will only be those who are in Japan or Korean? I don't know but she'll have less fans that way. Anime is a different case than manga, which you can read. The anime shows on TV which is free, so what's the difference if I watch it free here or on TV in Japane? It's pretty much the same thing Well, I've got nothing to say for the manga, but your point on the anime is technically not true. Depending on how many people watch it on TV, the sponsorship rates may vary. TV shows make their money pretty much solely on the commercials that are broadcast. The more people who watch it on TV, the more expensive the commercials would be. This is why commercials that air on major tv events (olympics, for example) can cost up to millions of dollars per second, while commercials that air on graveyard times cost much less. I think (but not sure) the same could be said if anime is licensed online. For example, Funimation allows people to watch anime online (at least here in the US you can; I've heard people outside of US can't see it) at their website and youtube. I'm assuming that their sponsorship costs also vary with how much people view their videos. However, when people watch fansubs that are not licensed, it doesn't matter if nobody or everyone watches them, because either way, the original artist does not get the money from any form of sponsorship. |
 Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
| I would buy it but in Panama you can't buy manga unless you import and the anime is quite expensive just for a few episodes. Twenty dollars or more for a DVD of six or less episodes. |
| Sales of publisher Shueisha 2009 -4.1 billion yen(-48470200 U.S. $) Shogakukan 2009 -4.3 billion yen(-50834600 U.S. $) Kodansha 2009 -5.7 billion yen(-89847200 U.S.$ ) The greater part of comic artist(comic artist assistant) and animator are poor. It embarrasses it with living expenses even if working for 20 hours a day. New figure's comic artist and animator are the edge of extinctions. (Additionally, the publisher also) she is angry to think about a critical situation of the entire industry segments. (She is especially angry of the disastrous scene of animator) The present conditions are severe than you imagines it. |
Melman88 said: I download anime, but I buy the real copy once it's out in my country. Why would I wait two or three freakin years for my favorite anime and mangas to be released here when I could watch them directly when they come out from japan. Same here. |
| @ blindassassin: Two things: 1) Imagine having made an amv or working on some fan-made production regarding releasing colored scanlations of a popular manga on Youtube. Then imagine having some random Youtube user out of nowhere download your amv or colored scanlation or whatever and then upload it into their own account, practically claiming that he made it. How exactly would you feel if that were to happen? 2) Just wondering, what makes you think this manga artist is rich exactly? What makes you automatically believe that because she happens to create a story, she's sleeping on top of a bed-full of billions of yen? |
HypeathonAug 30, 2010 12:11 PM
| * income Manuscript fee 1page 5000yen-15000yen anime License fee About Several hundred thousand yen(1season) Royalty on a comic 5%-10% *Expenditure Cost of living Assistant charges(A lot of money hangs) Coverage costs Painting materials costs *** Story board making. Coverage,Material retrieval makes arrangements with the editor.(Again Story board making.) One sheet of manuscript 4hour-12hour Let's predict the revenue. :Q |
| Kuroshitsuji is my most favourite manga and anime! And I can see a point in what Yana Toboso says. I mean I know I would be really pissed off spending so many hours of my life to work on a book or manga etc and then get emails like those she got, where those people where clearly retarded to say stuff like that, plus they could put themselves into some real trouble confessing so openly that they read her stuff online. lol *facepalm* On the other hand if it wasn't for the internet I wouldn't even know not only about her work but of the whole existance of anime and manga world. They used to air some old shows here in my country a few decades ago, but that has stopped now and I don't think that our TV is really interested to purchase the rights to show anymore "cartoon shows" as they call them. So ONLY thanks to the internet I came to know this whole new world. Now as for buying the work, I totally support this idea. But if it takes ages for the manga to sell in the US.... then imagine it taking a whole lifetime to come here in Greece. And the stores that sell manga can be counted in one hand. I can't order anything from Japan from my country, cause that's how things are. And not even from amazon.jp or whatever. It's not that the fee is high etc, we just CAN"T order things from there, like REALLY REALLY can't. I don't know the details and all, but even my Japanese teacher can't get stuff from her country through mail. It's a very difficult nearly impossible proceedure. Of course when I get the chance I go buy the stuff I love, like the 1st translated Volume of Kuro that came from the US. Another example, when my friends visited Japan last month they brought me back the whole 9 Volumes of Kuroshitsuji in Japanese and I gladly paid for it. But hey... that trip is TOO expensive to make all the time just to buy manga. It costs more than 3000 Euros...so it's a NOOO, at least with 400-500 Euro average payment we get per month here. So basically my points are that the internet is free marketing of the products so in the end it helps, if fans really like sth they WILL def buy it no matter what, and they should do sth about easy shipping from Japan to more countries. Now if she was mostly reffering to Japanese fans then sorry but that issue is not really of my concern to solve... |
JusticeUndoneAug 31, 2010 5:53 AM
“In a mad world, only the mad are sane.”Akira Kurosawa  |
Ecchi-sempai said: Wow that is a crap way of looking at it..this chick should be happy that we are even watching her anime. hell if it werent for these free sites we wouldnt even have heard about kuroshitsuji I agree with her lol and 1..2.. |
ZackStrife said: Agree.The industry is to blame for 'fans' habits of wanting anime for free and for making mangaka's so poor relying nearly completely on graphic novel sales to make money. Everything is so messed up there right now it's no wonder that she would speak out like she did. Normally mangaka's are just happy to receive letters from fans, but when the majority of fans talk about getting her work for free, it really isn't fair to them. Those that can't afford it, get it any way you can and I'm sure that the mangaka would just be happy to have a fan. Get it for free because that's how you've grown to think of manga/anime? That's the real problem. |
| Lol, wonder who are the stupid f***s who wrote to her.. and this "declaration" makes me want to download even moar. |
| That fan is kinda... not smart~ I guess expressing the discovery about an awesome manga is to tell the creator you got it illegally... |
abiotique said: i think her remark is stupid and uncalled for. as if the mangaka had no idea of what manga/anime distribution is like in another countries. they have to know. it's their business. and if it weren't for all this "free" material, foreigners wouldn't even know about their work. plus, it's pretty obvious that most of us who like manga/anime outside of japan spend money on their merchandise whenever it is available to us. You should probably read again and better next time. Her remark was against in the Japanese market and the Japanese consumer(Who do have readily access to anime/manga) that were illegally downloading her material. |
| ...che , retarded fans =.= |
| What I like is when manga fans think that buying that Viz novel supports the manga-ka. The manga-ka only sees a bit of the initial licensing fee that Viz paid to the original publisher, not the manga-ka. It's up to that publisher to pay the manga-ka if they want. Also, in the world of DVDs, the manga-ka will probably not see any of the money. The manga-ka is paid only the original animation fee in Japan (if that) and that's it. If it gets picked up here only the animation company over there profits. That's why manga-ka mostly ARE starving over there. They only get the money if the tankubons continue to sell and people are interested in the stories. The way "Western" P2P affects Japan is making the files more available to the Japanese audience, if they haven't uploaded it themselves. Another thing is, Japanese DVDs and Blu-ray cost about 3x as much as DVDs here. I think the price has come down since last I looked ($70 for 1 DVD with 2 episodes) but it's still pretty pricey. Finally for all those that beg people to "buy the anime/manga" to support the company that brought it over... what if we simply DON'T want to support companies like ADV (fortunately gone), Funimation, ViZ, TokyoPop and others because they "screwed up the anime/manga, censored the anime/manga, have horrible translations, etc." Most want to get on their high-horse and demand people support the industry, but I have seen only VERY FEW companies that deserve it. |
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lolita_mistrix said: Because Toboso Yana is so poor. Edit: kisami said: clearly she is starving to death.. This kind of thinking is selfish and annoying. It doesn't matter if she isn't poor. True, her words may have been a bit strong, but they were said in hyperbole to stress a very valid point. Even if you're rich, if you spend time working hard to produce something, and you wish to be paid for your efforts, then you have every right to expect to be paid. If an individual wants to give their stuff out for free, that's also their choice. That does not mean that everyone is entitled (by God, but I HATE that word) to everything for free. This is totally naive and stupid. Just put yourself in her place. Assume that you've managed to create a manga, or a CD, or a film, or a new bit of software, or a new surf board design, or whatever, and you've spent a lot of hard hours working on this thing, wouldn't you want to be paid for all your efforts? If you could support yourself doing something you love, wouldn't you want to instead of just occasionally creating things you like, giving them out for free, and then being forced to spend long hours working a job you dislike to support yourself? And again, if you're rich and you still want to be paid, so what? You put the work in, you deserve it. Why does everyone want to punish successful people so much? It's jealous and petty to think "well, they don't need the money, so it's okay to stiff them." Those same people wish they could be successful as well, and if they were rich, I doubt they turn their fortunes over to everyone else and choose to live with little money (which if someone chose to do this, fantastic! But that's their choice, and freedom of choice is a beautiful thing that shouldn't be taken away). We should embrace successful people and look to them as role models, not spite them. Because guess what? If they can get successful by working hard and following their dreams, that means that you can too! And isn't that wonderful? Wouldn't you want to live in a society that allows hard work to actually pay off? As for the rest of the argument, I think fansubs are great. Oftentimes they are far superior to the actual subs/dubs that licensing companies produce (which is sorta sad. I wish I could pay some fansub groups for the official release than the real companies). Further, they do expose fans to a larger variety of material and are more fair to said fans. There are several animes that have looked interesting to me, but once I've started watching them, I realize that they are not what I'd enjoy. So I'm thankful that I could watch them before putting in a lot of money into something I don't actually like. I do go out and buy anime series that I like, and I think all fans should do so. Take Baccano! for example. I watched that all online before it was ever brought over to the US, and I LOVED it. And the moment it was licensed and released over here, I bought it (even have the nice artbox, which I've never bothered to buy for any other series ^_^). If you really like it, support it. It's the same with manga scanlations. It's actually more valuable to the industry to allow these sites because it exposes people to more manga and allows them the better tell if their money is worth it. I personally don't really read manga, but because I was able to read Claymore on a manga scan site, I'm actually going to buy it, which I NEVER would have done if I hadn't been able to read it first as I just don't typically like manga. In short, I totally sympathize and agree with the creator's viewpoint. People should support the creators of works that they enjoy. However, I also feel that fan subs and scans are actually valuable to the industry and more fair to the consumers. The problem comes when people abuse the 'try before you buy' kind of system when they just watch/read everything for free and never buy anything. The 'I just don't have money right now' excuse is a weak one because those people who use it will never have the money, not because the money isn't ever made, but because it's just easy to keep re-using the excuse over and over. If you really want something, get a job, work hard, save up, and then get it. That's what you have to do for hardware, like xBoxs and computers and cars, so why shouldn't it be the same for anime/manga? Bottom line: Watch anime, read manga, and then do the right thing by buying those that you truly enjoy if/when you can. |
| It's one thing to condemn people that ONLY read their manga from the net or ONLY watch their anime from the net. But to condemn everyone who watches streaming anime or scanned manga is absurd. How will a person know if they want to buy it when (and if) it hits DVD? Are people going to shell out $25 for a volume of 4 episodes, and then keep shelling it out for the course of 13 episodes (or 25... or 50.... or more) if they don't know if they really like it? Most people hate only buying one anime DVD if it's in a series, after all. The greater purpose of fansubs and scanlations is to get people interested in the anime. There are various shows that I had watched a few times online, and then when they were finally licensed and put onto DVDs in the states, I bought. The same goes with manga. Granted my irk regarding manga is that it's $10 a volume, whereas it's nowhere near that expensive if you buy it in its original Japanese... so I tend to buy used manga to save myself the cash (unless it's something I really want when it comes out). However, I also agree that I don't think she was talking directly about foreign watchers of anime or readers of manga. I think she was speaking more to those who, you know, get to watch these shows on tv (unlike most the rest of the world) when they air. I mean yes, you could watch a streaming Japanese tv station but then that would kinda be the same thing she's harping on... technically... PLUS it kinda bites when you can't decipher the technical stuff due to it being RAW (though watching the commercials is a total plus). But not only does this help get the word out about an anime, which yes, no one would have probably heard of Kuroshitsuji in the first place had it not gotten such a good response worldwide from fansubs... but it helps get the word out about the manga for Kuroshitsuji... and the seiyuu who worked on the project... and the musical artists who performed the OPs and EDs... Sure, you're going to always have a few people who JUST watch online or read online... but hey, as for me, when it's on DVD... it's going on the anime shelf (working on getting the manga onto the manga shelf as we speak). |
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| Ahahaha. I love how people are trolling her. 8D |
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