Manga Author of Kuroshitsuji Deplores Moral Deterioration of the Fans
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#161
09-19-11, 3:55 PM
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Jrittmayer said: Queen_Stars said: It's a viscious cycle she'll have to learn to accept until the world enters an era of peace (2012?). I'm a Brit, we have Pokemon and I think, I badly dubbed Bayblade, they are our only anime!? When Pokemon began back in teh 90s, there was a boom in anime, we had; Shin Chan, DBZ, Sailor Moon, Pokemon, Digimon, Bayblade and Flint the Time Detective, yet in only a few short years, they all dissapeared; repeats aren't even screened as the channels they belonged to have died. We have no anime, yet were teased into getting addicted! I have bough a number of boxsets of serise's I like (8/9, I gave one away?), yet how else can you decide if you like them if they aren't avaliable to watch or rent (our videostores are boring too), you have no choice but to watch via streaming or download. Buying a series is another struggle; many serise's aren't picked up by the US and are not avaliable on DVD (Funimation distributes everything), therefor, we don't have the option of buying them down to the dreaded 'region code'; something else that needs to go. Also, there are a lot of people online selling pirate anime boxsets (not Onepiece :P), passing them off as genuien. If every country allowed its residents to view a serise, dubbed or not, on TV, there would be a lot more anime fans. If there were no region codes, we could purchase from virtually anywhere easily. The world is narrow minded and nowhere near united, so back to my first statement, she's stuck in a rut! Talking about 'equivalant exchange' and 'starving to death' is just plain old odd and eccentric. Quite funny. What's more funny; those openly admitting they watched illegally. This author is welcome to come to England; she'll se how boring it can be. ;) I'm American and even I'VE heard of Manga UK One of many websites we have online that simply tells us when selected stuff are avaliable; scanning Amazon does the same job. (Also, yes, I for one am aware of this site, threr are a few similar too) There's plenty that hasn't been licensed and their are numerous of licensed stuff that aren't avaliable still. Conbined with our TV networks here in the UK showing (virtually) no interest in the likes of anime (or world shows in general); how's anyone suppose to preview a series and know it's any good? Large video rental stores hold a (very) small selection of only the very popular stuff in no particular order. If you hope to buy a boxset from Ebay or Amazon for example, you pretty much have to have watched it online first, just as you'd watch a drama series on TV (Like me); that, or you'd just have to be REALLY confident you'll enjoy it based on discription alone? No British anime viewers are pleased at only getting their anime fix online. Honestly, research what's avaliable in the UK. ;) iamnoone said: You could always buy a region 1 dvd player or get a multi-region one and then import the dvds - play.com I recall sell region 1 anime. As far as TV is concerned, unless it can be sold in something other than DVDs, then it's unlikely to air if it can't be aimed towards children. Which is a shame in a way, the only broadcaster who I could see barely giving anime ago is the BBC. Also some of the channels you're necessarily referring to haven't died, they just got worse. Sorry, didn't notice you... I have a few legal, region free boxsets and am very greatful to own them, yet they're getting harder to find down to greedy corporations running sellers offline. I better add, I'm hopeless with technology, yet to be fair, things shouldn't be this difficult (I'm just really not a fan of region codes!). As for channels, I assure you, these channels are dead: - Toonami = dead - Anime Network = dead - Bravo = apparently use to show a (very) few stuff (a movie from time to time), but the channel is now dead - Jetix = pretty much dead; bought out by another channel that doesn't show the small, child friendly stuff they had - Sci-Fi/SYFY - apparently use to show the odd few stuff, but doesn't anymore; now and then, the Akira movie is on - Channel 4/ Flim4 - they have a few Studio Ghibli movies on from time to time American Disney XD and Nickelodeon apparantly have a few, child friendly stuff, but not ours. :( Yet you have a point with BBC... BBC 4 screen world shows and we're all charged for the BBC simply for owning a TV, so in a way, they owe it to us to explore anime. ;) Modified by Queen_Stars, 09-19-11, 4:27 PM  |
#162
01-04-12, 3:48 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 30 |
Well even if she knows the truth she still gotta try to make someone flip sides.The author does realize the fact that there is illegal copy's t,makes her works more popular.Same think on music industry,do you think industries are expecting to make money from CD sales?Hell no,those days are long gone.They make money from concerts,rights and other stuff.Piracy will be there as long as there isnt a better way to make a product popular.Im not gonna make excuses like some lameasses,i dl anime and i will as long as they dont find a way to stop piracy and that's about it. My 2 cents on this drama called piracy.  |
#163
01-05-12, 2:56 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 79 |
Funny, that she doesn't complain about how the people watching the anime at the TV airing are letting her starve, or two guys sharing a single manga magazine volume are letting him starve. The anime industry is BUILT ON the fact that only a small percenage of viewers are paying consumers. This is just all about control. |
#164
01-05-12, 3:09 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 1216 |
Pretty sure more than 80 % of the people who learnt about what she said weren't affected by it in the slightest.  |
#165
02-22-12, 9:53 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 3 |
I didn't know that Anime fans outside of Japan are "this selfish" before reading their comments on this topic. YagokoroEirin said: There are two types of mangaka,the one who draw for money and the one who draw for self-sastifaction. shadowsword said: If I were a mangaka, I would very much prefer my work to be enjoyed and to have people who admire me for what I do instead of lots of money. Yana seems to think the opposite - I think she doesn't really like her fans. Reading those idiotic comments made me just sad. To them, drawing manga is just a hobby for self-satisfaction and making "fans who just admire her work and don't pay any money" How dare they call themselves "anime fans" when they don't consider drawing mangas as profession? |
#166
02-25-12, 8:08 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 7 |
I find Kuroshitsuji boring as hell.. I understand the author not liking people reading illegal stuff, but he/she could be a bit less stupid with his "fans", afterall, they like his/her work. |
#167
04-23-12, 2:39 PM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 5 |
What Yana is saying is true, whatever you think of it, its true. Those of you who works because its fun and dont want to get paid for it, raise your hands please! I love my job but I wouldnt do it for free, gotta pay my bills people! This discussion is ridiculous and filled with ignorance and lack of knowledge. And Im from the country where The Pirate Bay and Spotify was created..... Also you cantl to work for free in my country, because that is called slavery. And slavery is illegal. Whatever opinions I have on the subject doesnt cancel the fact that work=pay. This is about (saw a comment on it earlier i think) making it easier to have legal access to the material, instead of downloading. for example Spotify. And to be honest, I read scanlations and stream anime, but Im not that immature and irresponsible that im gonna try to justify what im doing by trying to make Yana Toboso the bad guy in this situation. I know that what im doing is not helping the industry, but i try to buy material when I have access to it. TV= she gets money for it to be showing on tv, they buy the rights to air it. Manga= well 2 ppl sharing a bought copy is better than 2 ppl sharing scanlation where neither paid for it. ? |
#168
08-01-12, 9:13 PM
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Offline Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8799 |
dtshyk said: That's why I'm a streamer. *puts on sunglasses*note: Watching illegally uploaded anime on streaming sites is legal in Japan. Deliberate direct downloading is illegal.   |
#169
11-27-12, 7:47 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 2835 |
She's just a little butthurt over being trolled... She'll cool off eventually.   |
#170
11-28-12, 6:13 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 185 |
Kvakond said: "Fans" are stupid cunts but no borderlineBL-fest maker should preach to me about moral deterioration AMEN  |