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07-24-10, 11:44 AM

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GarLogan78 said:
Was the Yin in the black suit the evil killing part, and the Yin in the white suit the part that loved Hei and wanted to be killed before her awakening? Also, I don't really understand the awakening. Why Yin? And what does it mean anyway? Was she made to kill contractors or something? Why?
The black suit Yin is probably the evolved(more human like appearance) spectral ghost of Yin which is merging with the doll (real Yin) and this is what must be 'The awaking'. The rest of the questions must be answered with a season 3 which won't be anytime soon I guess.

rurisunshine said:
DId Yin actually say she loved hei???
Exact words "I like Hei. I don't want to forget you"

kerobear said:
Wow man. I don't know if its just me but im still with AMber X Hei >_<
(*・_・)ノ⌒*

I could listen to Yin's voice 24 hours...it's so beautiful.

It's weird not to watch DTB anymore because right after(not really though) season 2 ended the OVA started.
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07-24-10, 11:54 AM

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I'm so glad this answered pretty much all the questions I had while watching Ryuusei no Gemini.

But...WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE OVER ALREADY? ;___;

It's directly on par with the first series in terms of enjoyment, story, and pretty much everything. Perfect 10/10.
 
07-24-10, 1:20 PM

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There wasn't an announcement for season 3 because you guys jinxed it!!

Anyways, great episode. Literally the best DTB episode ever. even though they answered a few questions, there's still a bunch of questions left.

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Hmmm, a third season would be great, but a prequel season would be even better! Let's not forget that Hei was still the widely feared Black Reaper even before he became a contractor. Personally I hope they animate the Shikkoku no Hana manga. Knowing Bones they'll animate something, because cash cow.


for heaven's sake no. a prequl would be awesome, also a sequel, but the manga just strayed a bit away from the current story line. if u look to the series as a whole, it seems more like a side arc.


Can't argue with that. it wont be much appreciated but a prequel to the first season would be awesome. This way they could reveal the dark mysteries of hell's gate and Hei's past. I just hope they don't cancel their plans for S3 during the process.



 
07-24-10, 3:07 PM

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I'm so glad this answered pretty much all the questions I had while watching Ryuusei no Gemini.

But...WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE OVER ALREADY? ;___;

It's directly on par with the first series in terms of enjoyment, story, and pretty much everything. Perfect 10/10.

^this, but I gave it a 9/10 ^^
 
07-24-10, 3:24 PM

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I like Yin. I like Hei.... but I don't like Yin X Hei... Dunno why, but it doesn't work for me....

Too much time passed between episodes in this OVA. It lacked momentum, especially since we already know what happens later on in S2.... I might have to rewatch all in order to rate this one...
It will get a 7 or 8 just for letting me watch Hei for half an hour, but I don't know what I think overall....
 
07-24-10, 3:28 PM

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There wasn't an announcement for season 3 because you guys jinxed it!!

Anyways, great episode. Literally the best DTB episode ever. even though they answered a few questions, there's still a bunch of questions left.

Darktrickster said:
ReaperEXE said:
Hmmm, a third season would be great, but a prequel season would be even better! Let's not forget that Hei was still the widely feared Black Reaper even before he became a contractor. Personally I hope they animate the Shikkoku no Hana manga. Knowing Bones they'll animate something, because cash cow.


for heaven's sake no. a prequl would be awesome, also a sequel, but the manga just strayed a bit away from the current story line. if u look to the series as a whole, it seems more like a side arc.


Can't argue with that. it wont be much appreciated but a prequel to the first season would be awesome. This way they could reveal the dark mysteries of hell's gate and Hei's past. I just hope they don't cancel their plans for S3 during the process.


well we didnt rly jinx anythin, we were hoping for a proper season 3. i mean srsly if u read the manga dtb no hanna (w/e its called) ull know that its something far from the anime with a different author so it would be just pointless considering all the plot built so far in the series.

ow and one more thing, i dunno how ppl think but heres the thing: ppl keep talking about season 3 (which i rly hope to) while the director said that s2 is the end for dtb, so any ideas? ( i know i raised this point many time but nobody answered)
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07-24-10, 4:56 PM

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The only thing that was good in the OVA was the link between the stories, but everything else failed in comparison to season 1 and 2. S2 > S1 > OVA.

How exactly did you find S2 > S1? Season 1 had way more fighting and great sub stories in it. To me I couldn't wrap my head around season 2 because it focused more on Suou and her brothers story rather than Hei and Yin. If they had just put more thought into S2 about Yin's evolution and awakening, there wouldn't have been a need for this OVA. That is the main thing that was lacking for me. That and how Hei's power was stripped away early on. Made me lose interest right then and there. The story itself was decent however it lacked a certain quality since it was half as long as season 1. I felt they could have done a lot more with it but didn't. One last note: Shion's power in season 2 was damn near amazing. But when I first saw Suou's power I thought wtf? Anyone else disappointed wit her power? Just seemed a bit weak to me.
 
07-24-10, 5:37 PM

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@Zimno: great picture. :P

Best part of the episode:

"She is still alive, you know."
*looks up*

After watching this special now I feel like rewatching both seasons.
 
07-24-10, 6:20 PM

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Well now that I finished this i'm gonna start watching DtB S3. :D

 
07-24-10, 6:50 PM

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07-24-10, 7:05 PM

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This was a weak final to me. The last 5 minutes was really the best part of the whole thing, Hei hearing she is still alive and then Yin talking with some inner person. Didn't sound like Shion to me (as someone mentioned who it might be) but did give off that it was some male, so maybe it is him.

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The only thing that was good in the OVA was the link between the stories, but everything else failed in comparison to season 1 and 2. S2 > S1 > OVA.

Put S2 at the end and that's pretty much the order for me.

S1 and the OVA had more action than S2 did which pretty much focused on Suou who I was really a fan of anyway. OVA just helped connect the 2 seasons better but didn't really explain much of the unknowns.

Hope there is a S3 to follow.
 
07-24-10, 9:45 PM

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I hate it how every girl Hei develops a relationship with has to die.


Sigh yeah. He really is the black reaper..

 
07-24-10, 10:20 PM

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Second season and the OVA are over. They left much more to be desired. The first season was far more interesting than the second season but I guess it was nice to see Hei again even though he wasn't as good as he was before.


 
07-24-10, 10:34 PM

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Well that was an interesting way to end this OVA. It bridges the two seasons very well but still, there's a lot of questions unanswered. I'm still confused about the developments here but who isn't. This was a good run though. 8/10.

Only possible things that Bones can animate next is a season 3, a prequel to season 1, or the sequel of season 1, the manga DtB:Shikoku no Hana. Personally, I want a season 3 but a prequel isn't too bad. I don't think Shikoku no Hana would come out of the manga format and get animated though but this is Bones so anything is possible. Anyways, I'll try to rewatch the second season now.
 
07-25-10, 12:08 AM

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kokuro said:
Second season and the OVA are over. They left much more to be desired. The first season was far more interesting than the second season but I guess it was nice to see Hei again even though he wasn't as good as he was before.


What, Hei was even MORE badass this time around, just check this out!

No escaping the Black Shinigami!



 
07-25-10, 12:25 AM

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Hei was not badass in these 4 episodes-- he was gotten help in every fight that occurred in this arc
this arc was all about developing the romance for the hei x yin fans. i personally sought for more action than that, but you know some ppl still like this whole hei x yin thing. what a surprise.
 
07-25-10, 1:12 AM

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Hei was not badass in these 4 episodes-- he was gotten help in every fight that occurred in this arc
this arc was all about developing the romance for the hei x yin fans. i personally sought for more action than that, but you know some ppl still like this whole hei x yin thing. what a surprise.


Every fight? even the opening sequence? where Hei takes out those scums within 30 seconds?
I admit that this arc was mostly about the development in Hei and Yin's relationship but you can't look past the action just because of that. Sure Hei looked weak but that was just an act of developing the plot. What would've happened if Hei just "zapped" all those enemies, the plot would've just ended up being nothing but mindless gore, with no plot whatsoever.
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07-25-10, 2:23 AM

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This was a weak final to me. The last 5 minutes was really the best part of the whole thing, Hei hearing she is still alive and then Yin talking with some inner person. Didn't sound like Shion to me (as someone mentioned who it might be) but did give off that it was some male, so maybe it is him.

llamaben said:
The only thing that was good in the OVA was the link between the stories, but everything else failed in comparison to season 1 and 2. S2 > S1 > OVA.

Put S2 at the end and that's pretty much the order for me.

S1 and the OVA had more action than S2 did which pretty much focused on Suou who I was really a fan of anyway. OVA just helped connect the 2 seasons better but didn't really explain much of the unknowns.

Hope there is a S3 to follow.


I think that the person Yin was talking to at the end of the OVA was the true Izanami within her. Izanami entered her when she was inside the gate back at the end of season 1. It was within Yin for the whole 4 ovas and when it wanted to completely awake at the end of the 4th OVA, I'm assuming Yin found some way to stop it from doing so: maybe her love to Hei prevented it. Then, we see them both talking within Yin's head, and Izanami asks Yin why it didn't let it awaken. Then the whole conversation with the Heit hing at the end, and it ends. That explains why we only see Yin & Izanami awakened at the end of season 2, when they know Hei is going to come, since Izanami promised Yin to only awaken when Hei was there. And Yin's wish is for Hei to kill her, I think.

This episode also explained why Hei lost his powers. Izanami tried to kill him, but just absorbed Pai's soul instead of his :D

Someone said that the director confirmed there would be no season 3. That's right, I saw the scanlation of the official interview myself. However, he said something along the lines of: "I don't want to say what happened to Hei and Yin at the end of S2. BK201 is still shining in the sky. But there won't be a season 3." The way I interpret it, there could perfectly be a prequel series.

It was great to see Hei and Yin again <3 I just hope they keep Hei the way he was. S2 Hei, with long hair and a shabby beard was a do not want for me.

Still wondering how Shion got his Izanagi powers and who the child at the end of S2 was...
 
07-25-10, 3:52 AM

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less action but still a good ova
 
07-25-10, 4:13 AM

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the ovas were so painful for me, because I watched season 2 before I got on to the ovas. Oh god I hope there is a season 3!!
 
07-25-10, 4:43 AM

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bskbob said:
less action but still a good ova


Explain yourself?



 
07-25-10, 6:56 AM

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That was good OVA! Ideal prelude to Gemini season. :D

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
lightness vs. darkness
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07-25-10, 7:08 AM

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I enjoyed the OVAs. My fav one is the first one, where Hei and Yin are in the hotel <3
Now I want to watch the season 2 again.
 
07-25-10, 8:39 AM

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lol funny yin


copy&past that txt to notepad

not funny
 
07-25-10, 9:10 AM

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Yin looks so hot in that outfit...

Great OVA, explained a lot of things that happened in Gemini.
 
07-25-10, 9:25 AM

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less action but still a good ova


Explain yourself?
I'd like to know that as well. If anything, I think the OVA had more action...
 
07-25-10, 12:27 PM

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Ok so now Ive watched the ovas, as well as seasons one and two.

Sorry If Im being super stupid here but could someone please explain to me what exactly dolls are?

Were they (like contractors) originally humans that changed after the gate appeared? or are they things that were created by humans? or did they just appear? I really really really would love to know as its the one part of the whole series that I dont get and has now been knawing away at me for years...

That and will the detective who clearly has a bk201 obsession have more of a role in series 3? she was barely there for gemini!
 
07-25-10, 1:08 PM

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bongo said:
Ok so now Ive watched the ovas, as well as seasons one and two.

Sorry If Im being super stupid here but could someone please explain to me what exactly dolls are?

Were they (like contractors) originally humans that changed after the gate appeared? or are they things that were created by humans? or did they just appear? I really really really would love to know as its the one part of the whole series that I dont get and has now been knawing away at me for years...

That and will the detective who clearly has a bk201 obsession have more of a role in series 3? she was barely there for gemini!


Dolls, like contractors, were once normal humans. However after the appearance of the gate,at some point in their lives , they transferred to Dolls, and this is also the case with contractors. Its still unkown what actually triggers the tranformation/awakening of both Dolls and Contractor.

Now for what dolls are: Dolls are emotionless meduims, in other words entities with no will of their own. Every Doll have access to spirit inside it called an observation spector(the blue shade things) which they can control and manipulate across distances to survey or watch any area they want however there is a limitation for how they can use them; Observation spectors can only travel through certain meduims or objects (like water, concrete,ground etc) with each Doll having generally a unique meduim through which it sends his/her spector. For example, Yins meduim is water, she can send her Observation spector by getting in contact with water ti any place that have water.

Dolls show no emotion or ability to reason on their own, but needs orders to be able to do any activity; however through the course of the series, some Dolls like Yin, evolve and begin to show a will of their own and also emotions (Both are clearly shown in the first episode of the Gaiden OVAs). Dolls that have shown emotions and will so far in the series, thus undergoing evolution are Yin and July, and possibly the boy that assisted Yin's kidnappers in the first episode of gaiden (it is implied when he almost ripped his shirt, possibly as a reaction to seeing Yin hugged by Hei, making him saddened on how he is treated).

Lastly, it is said in the third episode of Gaiden as a quote from madam Orielle that Contractors are humans who failed to become Dolls(its unkown why this happend), which possibly imply a specail relation, other than the one about the appearance of the gate, between Contractors and Dolls.

I tried to sum up everything I remember about Dolls lol, hope you find it helpful. And by the way, since your already talking about season 3, I just wanna say its not confirmed yet, or maybe there will be a prequal but not a new sequal so we dont really know Misaki's(aka the detective whose obssessed with BK-201) role in the future.
 
07-25-10, 2:02 PM

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Awesome episode.
I would love to see more..too bad it ends here..for now.
 
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07-25-10, 7:21 PM

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If they've shown the OVAs before the second season I think I would have liked the second season more...at least I would know why Hei is being a drunk hobo.

and Yin confesses her feelings !__! yay but sad..
 
07-25-10, 8:43 PM

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Did anyone catch the fact that the flower eating guy did some nasty things with Yin while she was unconscious?

RAPE?
 
07-25-10, 8:55 PM

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This OVA's were by far better than season 2. If there is a plan for season 3 I will like to see more action like the OVA. Also don't take Hei's powers away by the 3rd episode and more than 12 episodes. This is a great anime and I hope they won't mess it up on season 3. So far is a 10 in my list.
 
07-26-10, 2:44 AM

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did anyone else get confused with the yin and shion talk? can someone plz explain this??? and claude's little story about his past was kind of sad, i felt bad for him. when did claude ever do nasty things to her while she was unconscious?? i dont think that's true. So is the only reason why hei partners up with madame o is because he thinks he can find yin with her help???
 
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YinxHei

pair status: 100% confirmed.... AND NO KISS!! FFFUUU xDDD

 
07-26-10, 3:33 AM

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EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW

well, not quite everything. But lots. :D
 
07-27-10, 4:25 AM
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I loved this OVA overall, great action scenes and Hei and Yin's relationship got some development. I really didn't feel for Hei's quest to find Yin in season two because I didn't really see them romantically... now I do. It was also nice having a reason for Hei's hobo appearance since it was a such a jarring change from season one.
 
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And thus Hei became a drunktard.
Oh, how I love happy endings.

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07-27-10, 4:31 PM

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werr-y said:
Best part of the episode:

"She is still alive, you know."
*looks up*
My thoughts precisely. I'm so tempted to rate this higher for that scene alone.

Ryuusei also had the most awesome ending scene with Hei carrying Yin away... *.*
 
07-28-10, 8:46 AM

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werr-y said:
Best part of the episode:

"She is still alive, you know."
*looks up*

-cue the music- x3
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07-29-10, 1:07 AM

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and thus started the beginning of the end, yin captured and hei as an alcoholic
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07-29-10, 1:16 AM

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This was the best episode of the 4.
 
07-29-10, 3:47 AM

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It was Indeed great~
9/10
 
07-30-10, 7:55 AM

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Ahhh man...

*Cries*

NOOOO YIN......Confess and then die?! Whaaa... :(
 
07-30-10, 3:47 PM

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I was wondering why Hei became an alcoholic in the beginning of Season 2... QUESTION HAS BEEN ANWSERED!
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This OVA series was kinda disapointing and not really needed as the two seasons already completed each other pretty well. Of course the last 5 minutes or so were great and were like the missing link to the introduction of Ryuusei no Gemini, but overall, those four episodes didn't really convince me of anything except that the second season was more interesting character-wise than the first (and the direction and action were better too).

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08-01-10, 2:49 AM

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That's a damn manly ability. Blowing boubles~ : D
The martial artist dude was pretty cool though xD

Well. I must say, I am terribly satisfied with this, even though there could've been more Hei×Yin. (And I know I've said this before but.. Unlike the second season, this was goood.)

Also, ain't that a strange bomb? Ruins the landscape but leaves the people there unscathed.

Enter, Heibo!

And now, even more than after the second season, I demand a third season. (Though I can't really see how it's possible to end it all happily anymore ^^; Unless whatever Yin was talking to inside herself actually does grant her wish after the end of the second season.)
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08-01-10, 5:44 AM

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Oh god it was so sad when she tried to force Hei to kill her.. and then Hei says he doesn't want to loose anymore dear to him :l
And then Hei and Yin don't see each other again, so that's why Hei begins to drink? ;o..

Hmm it seems like some people didn't think this ova was that good or something?.. I really don't understand that, for me this ova was one of the best things in this anime. I liked it alot, now I really wanna know what happend after season 2...
 
08-01-10, 9:47 AM

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KazeFalcon said:
Finally she said that she liked Hei!
But too bad Hei didn't answer >.<
Well,at least Hei said he didn't want to lose anymore people who are important to him ^-^


i think it'a the same :)) she know he likes her too.. i mean,just look what he became afterwords bcs of her <3

i would sooo like 3 season.. :(
yin x hei 4ever :))
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08-01-10, 3:48 PM

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What an awesome, amazing, great, epic 4 episodes! I just can say good things about this OVA, I've really really really enjoyed it ^o^
9/10

 
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