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07-23-10, 2:47 AM

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rurisunshine said:
DId Yin actually say she loved hei???

Not 100% sure, but i think she did. That was rather surprising.
I don't know what Hei answered, though.
 
07-23-10, 7:41 AM

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Darktrickster said:
well i just emailed bonesaboutseason 3, waiting for there reply now. anyways, guys if u hear any info about season 3 plz share


You seriously think they will just tell you like this? They won't even answer you, since you propably wrote the email in english, and not japanese.

Btw:
http://bssubs.net/2010/07/dtb-ova-4-status/
 
07-23-10, 9:27 AM

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viral_hun said:
Darktrickster said:
well i just emailed bonesaboutseason 3, waiting for there reply now. anyways, guys if u hear any info about season 3 plz share


You seriously think they will just tell you like this? They won't even answer you, since you propably wrote the email in english, and not japanese.

Btw:
http://bssubs.net/2010/07/dtb-ova-4-status/


i know that, but this will show that there are ppl who are intersted in it outside japan, which is the purpose of writing it in english. but tbh, i was naive enough to have some hopes of them replying, maybe bcz i rly want one.... btw something else; if u read my other posts on the "any chance for a season 3" thread and opened the link to the article, i had been asking for the original poster of the link who actually found it about wat it means, he told me that he got it on 4chan and that it was translated on the website and on some IRC, and it also had a list of who will be working on it. so there is a rumor that there might be one. i tried to look for the scan on 4chan but that site is just one big heap of mess with no search function,google wasnt helpful as well....

anyways, i think we may here some more info in the next few days.......
 
07-23-10, 11:20 PM

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darker than black ova 4 is subbed is out http://godspeedotaku.blogspot.com/

but i am waiting for bss enjoy guys
 
07-24-10, 1:15 AM

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Well I watched God-Speed-Subs, which I thought were fine.

Even after watching Seasons 1, 2, and this OVA, I still don't understand so much of what happened.

Was the Yin in the black suit the evil killing part, and the Yin in the white suit the part that loved Hei and wanted to be killed before her awakening? Also, I don't really understand the awakening. Why Yin? And what does it mean anyway? Was she made to kill contractors or something? Why?

Anyways, great end to the OVAs, and I see how they tied it into Season 2. I would always welcome another season or OVA in the future!

9/10
 
07-24-10, 2:51 AM

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rurisunshine said:
DId Yin actually say she loved hei???

didn't you heard her? yes she said it.



 
07-24-10, 2:59 AM

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Wow man. I don't know if its just me but im still with AMber X Hei >_<
Good episode i guess >< Dont' think there will be a third season IMO
Why DO THEY ALWAYS KILL MY FAV CHARACTERS
amber. then suou?
LET JUSTICE BE DONE; THOUGH THE HEAVENS MAY FALL
 
07-24-10, 3:32 AM

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Literally, she said she liked Hei... I guess it could be interpreted as love.

Ah... I loved this series so much. I hope this isn't the last time we'll see Hei.
 
07-24-10, 3:44 AM

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The only thing that was good in the OVA was the link between the stories, but everything else failed in comparison to season 1 and 2. S2 > S1 > OVA.
 
07-24-10, 4:02 AM

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Finally she said that she liked Hei!
But too bad Hei didn't answer >.<
Well,at least Hei said he didn't want to lose anymore people who are important to him ^-^
 
07-24-10, 4:18 AM

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Great fighting animation in this episode. I really enjoyed these 4 episodes. As a series though (Season 1+2+ova), it could use more background information. I just feel like there are still things that could be explained.
 
07-24-10, 4:33 AM

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If I just saw that I hugged a guy like what Hei hugged, I think I would electrocute him the first chance I got too.
 
07-24-10, 4:35 AM

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Great fighting animation in this episode. I really enjoyed these 4 episodes. As a series though (Season 1+2+ova), it could use more background information. I just feel like there are still things that could be explained.


Yeah. When Hei is first sneaking up on the first French troop with his mask on and the music gradually gets louder... Epic.
 
07-24-10, 5:43 AM

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Wow action packed opening 10 mins XD i really enjoyed the OVA but there has to be a season 3 >.<


 
07-24-10, 6:30 AM

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Loved the OVA and this episode in particular. Knowing what happened in season 2, this was probably as upbeat an ending as they could've done. Like everyone else has said, I hope we get more. Suffering from Hei and Yin withdrawal already...
 
07-24-10, 7:04 AM

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NOT AT ALL satisfied with this ep!! BONES, you better give us a season 3...or else!!!!
 
07-24-10, 7:49 AM

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Obvious open ending is obvious. If we wait long enough we will get another season i would expect.
The action was pretty good, i didn't understand that one guy's power was but he just flung walls around. It didn't really tell us anything new, but just closed the gap between seasons. Despite that i still liked the episode.
 
07-24-10, 8:18 AM

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This episode was pure awesome , especially when Yin confessed to Hei <3 . Also, lots of things in season 2 are starting to make sense ..
NEED MORE DTB 8D !!!
 
07-24-10, 8:37 AM

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helur said:
Obvious open ending is obvious. If we wait long enough we will get another season i would expect.
The action was pretty good, i didn't understand that one guy's power was but he just flung walls around. It didn't really tell us anything new, but just closed the gap between seasons. Despite that i still liked the episode.
i hope ur right about waiting so they give us a season 3, however i dunno if u read this but the director said that season 2 is the end of dtb so.... any ideas about wat would that mean?
 
07-24-10, 11:11 AM

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I hate it how every girl Hei develops a relationship with has to die.

Sucks to be Hei in that aspect. Nevertheless, I watch DTB b/c of him-- the most badass character imo.
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07-24-10, 11:44 AM

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Was the Yin in the black suit the evil killing part, and the Yin in the white suit the part that loved Hei and wanted to be killed before her awakening? Also, I don't really understand the awakening. Why Yin? And what does it mean anyway? Was she made to kill contractors or something? Why?
The black suit Yin is probably the evolved(more human like appearance) spectral ghost of Yin which is merging with the doll (real Yin) and this is what must be 'The awaking'. The rest of the questions must be answered with a season 3 which won't be anytime soon I guess.

rurisunshine said:
DId Yin actually say she loved hei???
Exact words "I like Hei. I don't want to forget you"

kerobear said:
Wow man. I don't know if its just me but im still with AMber X Hei >_<
(*・_・)ノ⌒*

I could listen to Yin's voice 24 hours...it's so beautiful.

It's weird not to watch DTB anymore because right after(not really though) season 2 ended the OVA started.
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07-24-10, 11:54 AM

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I'm so glad this answered pretty much all the questions I had while watching Ryuusei no Gemini.

But...WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE OVER ALREADY? ;___;

It's directly on par with the first series in terms of enjoyment, story, and pretty much everything. Perfect 10/10.
 
07-24-10, 1:20 PM

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There wasn't an announcement for season 3 because you guys jinxed it!!

Anyways, great episode. Literally the best DTB episode ever. even though they answered a few questions, there's still a bunch of questions left.

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Hmmm, a third season would be great, but a prequel season would be even better! Let's not forget that Hei was still the widely feared Black Reaper even before he became a contractor. Personally I hope they animate the Shikkoku no Hana manga. Knowing Bones they'll animate something, because cash cow.


for heaven's sake no. a prequl would be awesome, also a sequel, but the manga just strayed a bit away from the current story line. if u look to the series as a whole, it seems more like a side arc.


Can't argue with that. it wont be much appreciated but a prequel to the first season would be awesome. This way they could reveal the dark mysteries of hell's gate and Hei's past. I just hope they don't cancel their plans for S3 during the process.



 
07-24-10, 3:07 PM

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Tayloroids said:
I'm so glad this answered pretty much all the questions I had while watching Ryuusei no Gemini.

But...WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE OVER ALREADY? ;___;

It's directly on par with the first series in terms of enjoyment, story, and pretty much everything. Perfect 10/10.

^this, but I gave it a 9/10 ^^
 
07-24-10, 3:24 PM

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I like Yin. I like Hei.... but I don't like Yin X Hei... Dunno why, but it doesn't work for me....

Too much time passed between episodes in this OVA. It lacked momentum, especially since we already know what happens later on in S2.... I might have to rewatch all in order to rate this one...
It will get a 7 or 8 just for letting me watch Hei for half an hour, but I don't know what I think overall....
 
07-24-10, 3:28 PM

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KingDeadKira said:
There wasn't an announcement for season 3 because you guys jinxed it!!

Anyways, great episode. Literally the best DTB episode ever. even though they answered a few questions, there's still a bunch of questions left.

Darktrickster said:
ReaperEXE said:
Hmmm, a third season would be great, but a prequel season would be even better! Let's not forget that Hei was still the widely feared Black Reaper even before he became a contractor. Personally I hope they animate the Shikkoku no Hana manga. Knowing Bones they'll animate something, because cash cow.


for heaven's sake no. a prequl would be awesome, also a sequel, but the manga just strayed a bit away from the current story line. if u look to the series as a whole, it seems more like a side arc.


Can't argue with that. it wont be much appreciated but a prequel to the first season would be awesome. This way they could reveal the dark mysteries of hell's gate and Hei's past. I just hope they don't cancel their plans for S3 during the process.


well we didnt rly jinx anythin, we were hoping for a proper season 3. i mean srsly if u read the manga dtb no hanna (w/e its called) ull know that its something far from the anime with a different author so it would be just pointless considering all the plot built so far in the series.

ow and one more thing, i dunno how ppl think but heres the thing: ppl keep talking about season 3 (which i rly hope to) while the director said that s2 is the end for dtb, so any ideas? ( i know i raised this point many time but nobody answered)
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07-24-10, 4:56 PM

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llamaben said:
The only thing that was good in the OVA was the link between the stories, but everything else failed in comparison to season 1 and 2. S2 > S1 > OVA.

How exactly did you find S2 > S1? Season 1 had way more fighting and great sub stories in it. To me I couldn't wrap my head around season 2 because it focused more on Suou and her brothers story rather than Hei and Yin. If they had just put more thought into S2 about Yin's evolution and awakening, there wouldn't have been a need for this OVA. That is the main thing that was lacking for me. That and how Hei's power was stripped away early on. Made me lose interest right then and there. The story itself was decent however it lacked a certain quality since it was half as long as season 1. I felt they could have done a lot more with it but didn't. One last note: Shion's power in season 2 was damn near amazing. But when I first saw Suou's power I thought wtf? Anyone else disappointed wit her power? Just seemed a bit weak to me.
 
07-24-10, 5:37 PM

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@Zimno: great picture. :P

Best part of the episode:

"She is still alive, you know."
*looks up*

After watching this special now I feel like rewatching both seasons.
 
07-24-10, 6:20 PM

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Well now that I finished this i'm gonna start watching DtB S3. :D

 
07-24-10, 6:50 PM

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^I see, you live in your own little world.
 
07-24-10, 7:05 PM

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This was a weak final to me. The last 5 minutes was really the best part of the whole thing, Hei hearing she is still alive and then Yin talking with some inner person. Didn't sound like Shion to me (as someone mentioned who it might be) but did give off that it was some male, so maybe it is him.

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The only thing that was good in the OVA was the link between the stories, but everything else failed in comparison to season 1 and 2. S2 > S1 > OVA.

Put S2 at the end and that's pretty much the order for me.

S1 and the OVA had more action than S2 did which pretty much focused on Suou who I was really a fan of anyway. OVA just helped connect the 2 seasons better but didn't really explain much of the unknowns.

Hope there is a S3 to follow.
 
07-24-10, 9:45 PM

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I hate it how every girl Hei develops a relationship with has to die.


Sigh yeah. He really is the black reaper..

 
07-24-10, 10:20 PM

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Second season and the OVA are over. They left much more to be desired. The first season was far more interesting than the second season but I guess it was nice to see Hei again even though he wasn't as good as he was before.


 
07-24-10, 10:34 PM

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Well that was an interesting way to end this OVA. It bridges the two seasons very well but still, there's a lot of questions unanswered. I'm still confused about the developments here but who isn't. This was a good run though. 8/10.

Only possible things that Bones can animate next is a season 3, a prequel to season 1, or the sequel of season 1, the manga DtB:Shikoku no Hana. Personally, I want a season 3 but a prequel isn't too bad. I don't think Shikoku no Hana would come out of the manga format and get animated though but this is Bones so anything is possible. Anyways, I'll try to rewatch the second season now.
 
07-25-10, 12:08 AM

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kokuro said:
Second season and the OVA are over. They left much more to be desired. The first season was far more interesting than the second season but I guess it was nice to see Hei again even though he wasn't as good as he was before.


What, Hei was even MORE badass this time around, just check this out!

No escaping the Black Shinigami!



 
07-25-10, 12:25 AM

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Hei was not badass in these 4 episodes-- he was gotten help in every fight that occurred in this arc
this arc was all about developing the romance for the hei x yin fans. i personally sought for more action than that, but you know some ppl still like this whole hei x yin thing. what a surprise.
 
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Hei was not badass in these 4 episodes-- he was gotten help in every fight that occurred in this arc
this arc was all about developing the romance for the hei x yin fans. i personally sought for more action than that, but you know some ppl still like this whole hei x yin thing. what a surprise.


Every fight? even the opening sequence? where Hei takes out those scums within 30 seconds?
I admit that this arc was mostly about the development in Hei and Yin's relationship but you can't look past the action just because of that. Sure Hei looked weak but that was just an act of developing the plot. What would've happened if Hei just "zapped" all those enemies, the plot would've just ended up being nothing but mindless gore, with no plot whatsoever.
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07-25-10, 2:23 AM

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This was a weak final to me. The last 5 minutes was really the best part of the whole thing, Hei hearing she is still alive and then Yin talking with some inner person. Didn't sound like Shion to me (as someone mentioned who it might be) but did give off that it was some male, so maybe it is him.

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The only thing that was good in the OVA was the link between the stories, but everything else failed in comparison to season 1 and 2. S2 > S1 > OVA.

Put S2 at the end and that's pretty much the order for me.

S1 and the OVA had more action than S2 did which pretty much focused on Suou who I was really a fan of anyway. OVA just helped connect the 2 seasons better but didn't really explain much of the unknowns.

Hope there is a S3 to follow.


I think that the person Yin was talking to at the end of the OVA was the true Izanami within her. Izanami entered her when she was inside the gate back at the end of season 1. It was within Yin for the whole 4 ovas and when it wanted to completely awake at the end of the 4th OVA, I'm assuming Yin found some way to stop it from doing so: maybe her love to Hei prevented it. Then, we see them both talking within Yin's head, and Izanami asks Yin why it didn't let it awaken. Then the whole conversation with the Heit hing at the end, and it ends. That explains why we only see Yin & Izanami awakened at the end of season 2, when they know Hei is going to come, since Izanami promised Yin to only awaken when Hei was there. And Yin's wish is for Hei to kill her, I think.

This episode also explained why Hei lost his powers. Izanami tried to kill him, but just absorbed Pai's soul instead of his :D

Someone said that the director confirmed there would be no season 3. That's right, I saw the scanlation of the official interview myself. However, he said something along the lines of: "I don't want to say what happened to Hei and Yin at the end of S2. BK201 is still shining in the sky. But there won't be a season 3." The way I interpret it, there could perfectly be a prequel series.

It was great to see Hei and Yin again <3 I just hope they keep Hei the way he was. S2 Hei, with long hair and a shabby beard was a do not want for me.

Still wondering how Shion got his Izanagi powers and who the child at the end of S2 was...
 
07-25-10, 3:52 AM

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less action but still a good ova
 
07-25-10, 4:13 AM

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the ovas were so painful for me, because I watched season 2 before I got on to the ovas. Oh god I hope there is a season 3!!
 
07-25-10, 4:43 AM

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less action but still a good ova


Explain yourself?



 
07-25-10, 6:56 AM

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That was good OVA! Ideal prelude to Gemini season. :D

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
lightness vs. darkness
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07-25-10, 7:08 AM

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I enjoyed the OVAs. My fav one is the first one, where Hei and Yin are in the hotel <3
Now I want to watch the season 2 again.
 
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07-25-10, 9:10 AM

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Yin looks so hot in that outfit...

Great OVA, explained a lot of things that happened in Gemini.
 
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less action but still a good ova


Explain yourself?
I'd like to know that as well. If anything, I think the OVA had more action...
 
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Ok so now Ive watched the ovas, as well as seasons one and two.

Sorry If Im being super stupid here but could someone please explain to me what exactly dolls are?

Were they (like contractors) originally humans that changed after the gate appeared? or are they things that were created by humans? or did they just appear? I really really really would love to know as its the one part of the whole series that I dont get and has now been knawing away at me for years...

That and will the detective who clearly has a bk201 obsession have more of a role in series 3? she was barely there for gemini!
 
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bongo said:
Ok so now Ive watched the ovas, as well as seasons one and two.

Sorry If Im being super stupid here but could someone please explain to me what exactly dolls are?

Were they (like contractors) originally humans that changed after the gate appeared? or are they things that were created by humans? or did they just appear? I really really really would love to know as its the one part of the whole series that I dont get and has now been knawing away at me for years...

That and will the detective who clearly has a bk201 obsession have more of a role in series 3? she was barely there for gemini!


Dolls, like contractors, were once normal humans. However after the appearance of the gate,at some point in their lives , they transferred to Dolls, and this is also the case with contractors. Its still unkown what actually triggers the tranformation/awakening of both Dolls and Contractor.

Now for what dolls are: Dolls are emotionless meduims, in other words entities with no will of their own. Every Doll have access to spirit inside it called an observation spector(the blue shade things) which they can control and manipulate across distances to survey or watch any area they want however there is a limitation for how they can use them; Observation spectors can only travel through certain meduims or objects (like water, concrete,ground etc) with each Doll having generally a unique meduim through which it sends his/her spector. For example, Yins meduim is water, she can send her Observation spector by getting in contact with water ti any place that have water.

Dolls show no emotion or ability to reason on their own, but needs orders to be able to do any activity; however through the course of the series, some Dolls like Yin, evolve and begin to show a will of their own and also emotions (Both are clearly shown in the first episode of the Gaiden OVAs). Dolls that have shown emotions and will so far in the series, thus undergoing evolution are Yin and July, and possibly the boy that assisted Yin's kidnappers in the first episode of gaiden (it is implied when he almost ripped his shirt, possibly as a reaction to seeing Yin hugged by Hei, making him saddened on how he is treated).

Lastly, it is said in the third episode of Gaiden as a quote from madam Orielle that Contractors are humans who failed to become Dolls(its unkown why this happend), which possibly imply a specail relation, other than the one about the appearance of the gate, between Contractors and Dolls.

I tried to sum up everything I remember about Dolls lol, hope you find it helpful. And by the way, since your already talking about season 3, I just wanna say its not confirmed yet, or maybe there will be a prequal but not a new sequal so we dont really know Misaki's(aka the detective whose obssessed with BK-201) role in the future.
 
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Awesome episode.
I would love to see more..too bad it ends here..for now.
 
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Holy shit.

/thread

Holy shit o.o
/my brain
- If you believe this place holds you, it is a prison.
If you do not wish to leave, it will become a fortress.


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