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12-16-11, 2:34 PM

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time to watch the second season now, poor yin
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damn thats nice.

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Here's my take on the end of season 2 (in light of the OVA's) with regards to Hei and Yin (don't read if you hate SPOILERS!!)

1.) Yin's alter/supra ego is Izanami

2.) Shion's alter/supra ego is Izanagi

3.) Izanami, mythologically speaking, is like the god/being of destruction. As we have seen, all Izanami pretty much does is kill or cause chaos (many bodies in her wake)

4.) Izanagi, mythologically speaking, is like the god/being of creation. As we have seen, Shion is able to create copies of people as well as a new earth (!!!)

5.) The two must meld together and become one again (for some greater purpose/fulfillment of prophesy. Maybe they were whole at one point in time and the appearance of The Gate was a result of the sundering of the two halves (this has been a huge theme in literature and film i.e. The Dark Crystal).

6.) Hei has always said, regardless of the prophesy and other some such, that his goal was to kill Izanami...he never said he was going to kill Yin. He wants to destroy that which separated him from Yin. When he says that he's going to kill her, HER is in quotes ("her").

7.) As Izanami draws Izanagi's and July's souls to her, Yin extends herself as a last ditch effort and appears and appeals to Hei to kill her because it's not too late. Though she was not able to keep the awakening from happening like she did initially, she manages to send herself out one last time to Hei

8.) Misaki sees Hei's star shine exponentially brighter in the night sky than ever before. His powers and that of his sister have returned in full force (and then some) and he has taken the meteor shard (either still in pieces from when Izanami broke Shuou's pendant or it formed into a whole piece again after the fact like it did in season one when amber had broken it into pieces but it went back to being whole) to destroy Izunami via Yin's last ditch attempt to save this crazy world.

9.) Hei changes Izanami on a molecular level via Yin’s projection thus preventing the Iza/Iza binding.

10.) Soon after, we hear that another Gate has appeared (the twins call it out) because the actual completion of Izanami and Izanagi was prevented by Hei and Yin.

11.) Thus resulting in the boy we see in the fields. He looks like a boy version of Yin. He is now the new yet incomplete Izanami incarnate signified by the arrival of a new Gate as Yin proper has split from that entity completely and there is no consciousness to hold anything back now. So this kid wakes up and just starts consuming as soon as his eyes open.

12.) During the molecular change, as noted above, Yin and Izanami disconnected as beings totally. Yin was never a shell that remained in that box though that’s what everyone thought. Izanami had just seemingly taken over her wholesale and their entities were tightly intertwined but Yin boldly asserted herself at the last moment to Hei. Once the disconnect occurred, the remnants of Yin returned to her body.

13.) Yin's wish is to be with Hei (she has said this a few times in the OVA's), not for Hei to kill her. In the end, she counted on Hei to know the right time and do what was needed so she didn't need to wish for that. Hei knew what he had to do so she didn't have to waste her wish. Her knowing smile and his knowing smile at the end complimented each other.

14.) Hei is seen carrying Yin’s naked body off. This is clearly the Yin from the box in the room, not Yin that showed herself to Hei moments before. Hei went back to the bldg after the change, disconnected Yin from the tubes and carried her off with him, at last alone together. At some point later, Yin regains consciousness and though it takes a long time, she slowly but surely returns to herself.

15.) Amber, who has seen and knows the future, knows the budding relationship between Hei and Yin (episode 16) so she entrusts Yin to watch over Hei. I doubt she would tell Yin this if Yin was going to die.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!!!!! They live and are happy together eventually!!!!! Waaaaah!!!

im gonna post this for ppl who watched the second season last, since som ppl will do that (like me)
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12-23-11, 12:43 PM

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As I haven't watched season 2 yet I assume Hei will work with the CIA from now on and thus accept the offering of the blond woman.

Overall this was a great OVA series. Let's hope the second season will continue on this level!
 
01-09-12, 3:20 PM

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Bit of a slow depressing OVA series, oh well on to the next series...
 
02-09-12, 5:00 AM

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Nice music, nice atmosphere and good characters. I wished they could have made this as season 2 instead. Only question is, when did Yin and Hei fall in love? It seemed a bit forced to me.
I'd love a prequel focusing on Hin and his sister though.
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04-09-12, 2:05 PM

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OMG... Whats gonna happen to Yin now! ;~;

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08-09-12, 7:47 AM

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OMG... Whats gonna happen to Yin now! ;~;

Watch the second season and prepare to be...
 
08-12-12, 9:08 AM

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Ohh, why it had to come to an end...

^I say this quite often, but now I mean it really - it was one of the best things I've watched in anime. I don't know if there would be third season according to this gaiden, but I think I should rewatch ep 1 of S2(because I've watched only this episode from S2) because I might have missed something important connected to it.

Anyway, this episode served as a rather strange finale - you can't say if it was a good or bad ending, but maybe that's the better way to do it, because such good episodes would need either too good ending or the one we actually got(and this is anime after all, such endings are to be expected). Xi-Qi died and I don't like this much - he was indeed a great antihero, and actually had ideals. But, well, this is Darker Than Black - if people weren't dieing this anime wouldn't have been as good. Yin's transformation was great, I didn't know she'd make such great character in the start of the show - both in terms of strength and person. And of course, Hei is good(= too good) as always... no, even better than S1, this is for sure.



And now, it's time for my thorough assessment.

1. Characters. +1. This might have been OVA, consisting of just 4 episodes, but we Xi-Qi who did better than the bad guys in S1. Also Hei and Yin got so much better character development for such a short amount of time.
2. Atmosphere. +1. Hmm, there wasn't a single flaw for even a moment in this gaiden. It was actually this atmosphere I was expecting, when I started DTB back in the time, but it didn't fulfill my expectations to their fullest. I so want more episodes like this OVA ;__;
3. OST. Great OST, the background themes were just perfect and the ED is really good too, imo.
4. Animation. +1. I remember that I despised DTB's animation on start, back in S1, and I'm not sure if I just got used to it(which usually is my case) or it really got slightly better. I think it's great now.
5. Background story. You can't expect real background story in an OVA imo, and we didn't get one here either, but it was ok without it anyway.
6. Storyline. +1. For a 4-episode OVA, we had the chance to witness a real storyline(it wouldn't be possible in 1 - 2 episodes) and it turned out better than what I could possibly expect. At the end contractors turned out to be failed dolls, exactly opposite to what I've(and most of the watchers besides me imo) been thinking. In the same time, dolls can reach their fullest extent of power only when somebody loves them and cares about them. The plot twists were all over the place. And of course, as we're talking about DTB, the storyline was quite dramatic one.
7. Ending. Hmm, I don't know what to say about the ending tho. I didn't really get what actually happened(BUT WELL, we are talking about Darker than Black here >_<) in the end. Still, I liked how Hei changed after he thought Yin was dead. It developed him even further in that direction, where he's actually human in his soul, despite he's got the powers of a contractor and is seen as one by the world to the extent where he's even forced to act like one of em'.
8. Fight scenes. +1. I actually forgot that I had to score this part too. Hm, well the fight scenes were actually good enough, despite this OVA didn't revolve around action as much as some the episodes in Season 1. So I guess it scores a point here.
9. Drama. +1. Drama here was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than in Season 1. Yin almost completely regained her consciousness, but then this turned out to be a catalyst for something really bad. And Hei, completely throwing away his life every moment for her every single second, when she's the last important thing for him left to protect... He couldn't do anything but win me this way. And of course, Xi-Qi - a contractor with ideals, who threw his life away for them. And so much more between the lines. Nope, I just couldn't get enough of it.
10. Overall feeling. +1. I can't say that it just "felt great". This OVA won my support for DTB probably even more than the original first season. As I said before, I just couldn't get enough of it. I just can't imagine what it would be if there were like 26 episodes like these four. I can't reject that it left me deeply impressed. It's masterpiece in my opinion and I rarely score anything like this.
Bonus(extra) point for:... +1. Yeah, it's time for this part of my assessment. I already said it few times, but Xi-Qi impressed me quite a lot and I don't think the OVA would be complete without him. I guess antiheroes are to be expected in DTB, but he somewhat moved me. I'll give him what he deserves. Too bad he doesn't even exist in the character database of MAL... I'd probably even consider him as a Top 10 favorite, if the case was different.

Overall score: 9/10. I don't remember why I scored DTB S1 just 7/10, but if we get more DTB in the spirit of this Gaiden - I wouldn't be able to feel in a better way about these series for sure.
 
11-15-12, 9:51 AM

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Great OVA series, I loved all the caring moments between Yin and Hei. Hopefully the 2nd season wont disappoint.

9/10
 
01-12-13, 9:54 PM

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badass hei, i want yo babies
 
01-14-13, 3:34 AM

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The last episode was really good. Can't believe Yin actually confesed to Hei. Anyway, loved these 4 ovas.

 
03-30-13, 6:56 AM

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Quite epic ending, the whole short series was quite amazing, good atmosphere and a nice setting i global! The ending sure took me by surprise it was first like damn she's gone and than we still got some hope! She stays an amazing character to the series! The total ending with Yin talking to someone in that flower field was pretty nice! I really hope we'll see her again in the next season!

Great in global! Personally found the setting better than the first season! Now lets see what the second season has to offer and if we'll see her in it!
 
06-11-13, 6:48 PM

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that ending is amazing it surely filled all holes that where still open in S2 and cool she confessed to Hei and he was really bad ass here more then ever. I am glad that I didn't finish gaiden and stopped at ep 2 to first see S2 other wise I think I would have enjoyed S2 a lot less.
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06-15-13, 11:41 AM

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that ending is amazing it surely filled all holes that where still open in S2 and cool she confessed to Hei and he was really bad ass here more then ever. I am glad that I didn't finish gaiden and stopped at ep 2 to first see S2 other wise I think I would have enjoyed S2 a lot less.

I completely agree. I would not have enjoyed Gaiden nearly as much had I not seen season 2 first. I really hope there's a season three too
 
06-21-13, 8:57 PM

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Actually it would be more interesting if you watch the second season first before watch the OVA.
just like i did :p
you're going to "WTF" when watching the second season and "oh i see.." when watching the OVA.
beside the OVA was released after the second season finished airing.
 
07-05-13, 1:34 PM

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Oh oops looks like I watched this in the wrong order? I should've watched season 2 and then Gaiden? x_x oh well.

The ending :( It was heartbreaking to see Hei's expression when Yin told him to kill her, and also when Yin/Izanami(?) tried to force Hei to kill her. I guess since she was the last most important person to Hei, she was basically everything to him, so important that he became a drunkard...I kind of laughed at the end because it was like one of those cliches with a drunkard husband and a wife XD I love how that guy carried the baby on his back. Well off to see the season 2 that so many people seems to dislike so much.
 
08-03-13, 1:03 AM

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The battle scenes were craaazy!!

Overall, awesome last episode, I'm really looking forward to the second season now! :D
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09-05-13, 6:27 PM

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A solid OVA, glad I saved this for after Gemini. This bridged the gap between S1 and S2 and answered so many questions. I'm a little disappointed about the collapse of the Syndicate, it seemed a bit anti-climatic. Other than that, I thought the relationship between Hei and Yin was done very well. Things really built up throughout S1 and these OVAs. The fight sequences were awesome, especially when Hei stormed into the building against all those contractors.

With that said, I'll give Gaiden an 8/10. It really kept up to par with the original series and the foreshadowing from Gemini added to the enjoyment on my side.
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I don't know if I should've watch S2 before this, but what it's done is done and now is time to watch S2.

I like how things ended, now I want to see Hei getting his waifu back.
 
09-28-13, 12:45 PM

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Better than the second season, but still not even close to the level of the first.

I recommend reading Darker than Black: Shikkoku no Hana to anyone who is disappointed with the second season. The manga takes place after the first season and it's nothing like the second season. I think it's great.
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09-29-13, 4:05 PM

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*SPOILERS*

I've watched the whole Darker Than Bllack series in it's chronological order with the first season, than the Gaiden OVAs and the second seson: Ryuusei no Gemini. And as probably many people have I've been thinking about the ending to the second season. I actually liked it, the problem is I wasn't really fond of the whole season in general. If the rest were better, I'm sure I would've loved the ending. Nonetheless I've got my interpretation of the ending and also some questions. I guess I don't have to mention that for anybody who hasn’t seen the first and second season + OVAs of Darker than Black, these questions will contain spoilers.

1. In the end of the Gaiden OV As, Yin sais she wants a wish granted, what was that wish?
My interpretation: I've got nothing on this one.

2. Who was Izanagi, was it Hei, Shion or maybe July? My interpretation: I would guess it was Shion. First of all, that's what some of the characters theorized in the anime, and they must've had some leads. Second, he and Izanami contrasted each other. One had a destructive power the other had a creative one, just like Izanagi/nami in Shinto mythology. Last one is a technical thing, but if he wasn't then that would mean his role in the story was kind of pointless. That would make Suou's role pointless to (in my opinion it was to some degree anyways.)

3. Did Hei kill Yin?
My interpretation: No. First of all, he it was obvious from Gaiden that he didn't want to kill her and possible even loved her. Why would he change his mind? Secondly if anything it was Izanami he was after, and not Yin. He might have thought he needed to kill her in need to kill Izanami though. Another thing is thing is that if Yin was killed by him then what was the point of getting his powers back? For me he got them, possibly from Izanami herself, to seperate her Yin and Izanami from each other. Also, if he actually did kill Yin, it would be to destroy her observer spirit/Izanami and as we see at the end of the episode, we see either her or at least something that came from her, and continues on her killing spree. If it exists then what would be the point of killing Yin anyway. Last but not least, c'mon it's Yin! She just couldn't die :D.

3. What was the Yin-looking person at the end of the episode.
My interpretation: In my opinion Hei somehow divided Izanami from Yin with his sisters powers. Now there are two options of what might have happend. Either that person is Izanami herself, or it's possibly a fused Izanami-Izanagi, which I’ve seen people calling Kagutsuchi on the internets (the mythological son of Izanami/nagi). I’d rather bend towards the first version for two reasons. First of all, Shion sacrificed himself to create the Arc and in turn died so I don’t think there was a chance for him to fuse with Izanagi. Secondly the person at the end seemed to embody only the destructive nature of Izanami, and not Shion’s creative one. You could argue against this though, with the fact that the entity person seemed to be male or somehow undefined, as if it really were a fusion of man and woman. But the counter argument could be that either Izanami somehow being the polar opposite of Yin got a male body or that it’s actually Shion that has created the body, copying Yin’s and just as in the case with Suou the copy wasn’t exact.

Of course, I might be completely wrong because I missed some detail so I’d be glad to hear other opinions, though similar ones would be nice to :).
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