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07-15-10, 12:03 AM

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Thanks for the info~ I hope the issues with editing history will be fixed as well, though I don't really mind now XD I just have to be extra careful :|


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07-15-10, 1:14 AM

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Thanks for your hard work :O!
 
07-15-10, 2:21 AM

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I'm glad to hear this~ I hope you can find a solution, good luck for that~ :DD
 
07-15-10, 3:42 AM

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Yeah,I haven't been able to check my messages-it just keeps saying it's been disabled for the time being~ D:
 
07-15-10, 5:47 AM

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Where are the episodes number stats? D: They always were under anime list... ;w;

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07-15-10, 5:48 AM

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Where are the episodes number stats? D: They always were under the anime list... ;w;

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07-15-10, 6:26 AM

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There is still a huge data persistence problem :/

 
07-15-10, 7:38 AM

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I agree. Take it down and fix it correctly. I'd love to see what my 27 messages are, so please go ahead and do what you must.
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07-15-10, 8:08 AM

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I'm also of the mindset that taking the server down for a few days to fix it will be better. Thanks for the update, too.
 
07-15-10, 9:29 AM

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thanx for telling and good luck! >w<
hope it's fixed soon!
thankyou!
 
07-15-10, 10:37 AM

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Yeah, good. But don't forget that I have another Broken thread in my browser - I c'ant get in from Firefox (Currently I'm using Explorer. Yuck)

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07-15-10, 2:00 PM

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Redfoxoffire said:
MidnightSky said:
SnG said:
o: Finally a response.

Take it down if you want. We'll behave as long as it is working when it's back up. :3


Agreed. Always better than nothing now.

Third'd.

ShadowChao said:
AO968 said:
Yoshiage said:
teanut said:
This really has to stop you know.

Oh noes your free service has some hiccups THIS IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE


It being a free service does not mean we should accept major site failure.

It also does not mean we should be an asshole about it.

Someone needs to be. Just because it's free doesn't mean it can be tossed aside, especially with how many people use this site. I don't know what Xinil does in his daily life, but keeping this site working well ought to be a priority. Not his top priority, of course, but a priority nonetheless. And with how long these problems have lasted without any word until now I worry about these things.

Remember, the success of a site depends on its users, the people who visit it. It's simple customer competition, just like in the real world.


You obviously have never worked in the web industry before. Sometimes, shit (like errors in your databases) do happen. Sometimes, changing one little thing on the website can cause something completely unrelated to just suddenly break. Sometimes, these things take time to find and fix. Especially with a database the size of MAL's. It's not like the site was down for a week and no one made any effort to fix it, it was a few hours. Practically every site will occasionally have issues and need to go down or limit access for a period of time. That's a fact of life that anyone in this industry will tell you. Yesterday was the first time since I've joined this site that I've noticed it having any significant issues, so I would say that the admins do a good job of keeping this site up and running.
 
07-15-10, 2:06 PM
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You obviously have never worked in the web industry before. Sometimes, shit (like errors in your databases) do happen. Sometimes, changing one little thing on the website can cause something completely unrelated to just suddenly break. Sometimes, these things take time to find and fix. Especially with a database the size of MAL's. It's not like the site was down for a week and no one made any effort to fix it, it was a few hours. Practically every site will occasionally have issues and need to go down or limit access for a period of time. That's a fact of life that anyone in this industry will tell you. Yesterday was the first time since I've joined this site that I've noticed it having any significant issues, so I would say that the admins do a good job of keeping this site up and running.

Then apparently you haven't been using the site much recently. It hasn't been down, but there have constant issues over the past month or so, some of which still aren't fixed.
 
07-15-10, 2:11 PM

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@Celenas, then you probably registered yesterday, regardless of what it writes next to your avatar. For someone who seems to make excessive abuse of the quote function, you have a too strongly well favoured opinion of this site's admins.

This site has a long history of being frickle and ridden with SQL errors. If "changing one little thing on the website" causes something completely unrelated to just suddenly break, the site is written amateurly.
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07-15-10, 3:25 PM

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Everyone complaining about the site should just be glad they have a site, and a free one at that. :/

And at least it's not completely down.

 
07-15-10, 5:06 PM

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Celenas said:
Redfoxoffire said:
MidnightSky said:
SnG said:
o: Finally a response.

Take it down if you want. We'll behave as long as it is working when it's back up. :3


Agreed. Always better than nothing now.


Third'd.


Yep!
 
07-15-10, 5:20 PM
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Redfoxoffire said:
Celenas said:
You obviously have never worked in the web industry before. Sometimes, shit (like errors in your databases) do happen. Sometimes, changing one little thing on the website can cause something completely unrelated to just suddenly break. Sometimes, these things take time to find and fix. Especially with a database the size of MAL's. It's not like the site was down for a week and no one made any effort to fix it, it was a few hours. Practically every site will occasionally have issues and need to go down or limit access for a period of time. That's a fact of life that anyone in this industry will tell you. Yesterday was the first time since I've joined this site that I've noticed it having any significant issues, so I would say that the admins do a good job of keeping this site up and running.

Then apparently you haven't been using the site much recently. It hasn't been down, but there have constant issues over the past month or so, some of which still aren't fixed.
Have to agree here that there has just been too much left to fester. As someone who actually has managed lots of web servers, I have to say that this is really not acceptable. If there's a nasty downtime from a hard drive failure or a dead fan every 6 months that's forgivable perhaps, but this is a planning failure and not a hardware one -- nor will it be solved just by throwing more hardware at the problem.

I know that multiserver database problems are complicated, but whichever consultant crave hired to help configure the database servers obviously did not do his job properly... complain and ask for advice, or at least get a discount on a follow-up to put these db issues to rest.

There also needs to be someone else to turn to than just Xinil as well... it's obvious that there is not enough budget/time going into bugfixes and improvements, and I'm not sure if that's because Xinil's time is limited with other jobs or Crave is just stingy with the pocket book.... but it's rather depressing and everyone who uses the site regularly knows there's lots of things that need fixing.
 
07-15-10, 5:36 PM

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There also needs to be someone else to turn to than just Xinil as well... it's obvious that there is not enough budget/time going into bugfixes and improvements, and I'm not sure if that's because Xinil's time is limited with other jobs or Crave is just stingy with the pocket book.... but it's rather depressing and everyone who uses the site regularly knows there's lots of things that need fixing.


As far as I'm aware, I've never seen a CraveOnline representative on the site. Maybe I just haven't used the forums enough in the past, or have just not been paying attention, but I thought that Crave might have some kind of representative on MAL, or a direct way of contacting them rather than having to go to our good old friend Google.

So, yeah, maybe the community needs some way of "bitching to the mother of its adopted child."
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07-15-10, 6:58 PM

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Aw, but it was so much fun going back 2 days in time every refresh, and then being greeted by a MySQL error on a page in the present time.


lol +1

 
07-15-10, 8:36 PM
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As far as I'm aware, I've never seen a CraveOnline representative on the site. Maybe I just haven't used the forums enough in the past, or have just not been paying attention, but I thought that Crave might have some kind of representative on MAL, or a direct way of contacting them rather than having to go to our good old friend Google.

So, yeah, maybe the community needs some way of "bitching to the mother of its adopted child."
Though Crave doesn't do anything active in the community itself (that I know of), they do a lot of stuff behind the scenes configuring and managing things. MAL's servers live in their data centers (or at least their rackspace at Net2EZ's data center), and I assume they've paid for the recent server addition and other hardware.
 
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