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07-13-10, 4:11 AM

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Having just finished an H-anime, I had just come to realize the world of NTR. From what I've read in some sites, its actually like a fetish and yet why do I have mixed feelings of rage and curiosity to such genre?

For those wanting to know what NTR(known as netorare) means: its when someone steals your girlfriend/boyfriend or the girl/boy you like and you can't do nothing about it. A good example would be School Days.

Now my topic is, whats the thrill in it? What I felt was rage(and paranoid to where my partner is whilst I'm typing this), and yet its made me even curious to find more titles to watch/read with this type of genre(which if anyone knows of any, please let me know).

So what's your opinion?
 
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07-13-10, 4:19 AM

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Being deceived and lied to is nowadays something that people like?

Nice.
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07-13-10, 4:25 AM

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ladyxzeus said:
Being deceived and lied to is nowadays something that people like?

Nice.


that's whats surprised me as from looking it up on the net, there's a whole fandom for this type of stuff....I even just found out that one of my fave anime Bakemonogatari, is classed as NTR! How bout that. Well I guess if you look at it from Hanekawa's point of view, Hitagi did steal Araragi away from her....but yeah
 
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07-13-10, 4:26 AM

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http://bunbunmaru.com/wakaba/general/res/3962.html

I hope this thread helpd you in some way as to understanding it.

I suppose from my opinion it's the shame that another man is pleasing your wife and not you is a punishment masochistic trip, and the fact that she is being raped means it was against her will so there no guilt but most of all she had an orgasm so part of her enjoyed it, and knowing it wasn't the emotional part and that her heart still belongs to you and its just her body she had no control over has a great feeling of satisfaction and relief and faith in the love between the husband and wife.

Everybody should enjoy a good orgasm and if you can't provide one then her having one is a good thing and knowing it wasn't emotionally cheating on you is a great feeling, it might bring you closer together as a couple as well maybe being emotional support for the woman you love and helping her with the conflicting feeling of being raped against her will and liking it and feeling guilty about liking because she had an orgasm.

It really is a complicated fetish. I actually like it and I got very mad the first time I started to like it as well but after I got over the initial feelings of it and took on the persona of the husband who is emotionally supportive I enjoyed it a lot more and I could imagine her enjoying the physical act a lot more with less guilt which increased the pleasure.

Being able to watch you wife getting raped or have sex in front of you or knowing about it and still feel totally secure in the relationship is a really strange and hard thing to imagine, but its actually quite common.
 
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07-13-10, 4:38 AM

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I felt the the same with you rage..so yeah
You want another kind of hentai like that?
Ah you just watched Triangle Blue..man it's making me angry XD
Here you go:
Grope
True Blue
Hitou Meguri the Animation

Wait let me find more from my list
Houkago 2: Sayuri

Basically all 4 of them contained a sex scene where the male guy watching his lover got banged by other guy..so yeah, happy raging

Insatiable <- this kind is a bit odd, well you will understand when you watched it
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07-13-10, 4:41 AM

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Disposable-Angel said:


It really is a complicated fetish. I actually like it and I got very mad the first time I started to like it as well but after I got over the initial feelings of it and took on the persona of the husband who is emotionally supportive I enjoyed it a lot more and I could imagine her enjoying the physical act a lot more with less guilt which increased the pleasure.



while it is a fetish I am starting to get fascinated in, I don't think I could get used to it...more to the fact that I have a partner and it makes me feel inadequate should something like this happen in RL

so I'll probably dig more into it and read the few manga titles I've scoped up so far, and see how far I get into it, but i don't think this fetish will last
 
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07-13-10, 4:46 AM

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I think it's not whole new but just better defined and then commercialized.

Like yuri, tsundere just a new term but similar content has been existing for decades, or centuries? in novels & drama mainly, and now in visual novels. Its a part of reality, exaggerated. I think you may encounter friends having these affairs too. But you may not know the H part as in the H-game?

Romance stories often build up fear of loss, again and again, so as an author, why not make it a really devastating loss to see how well people accept?

In the end, not all people accept... But those who demand new stuff would find an alternative way to enjoy. It's just like melancholy which intends to make people sad, horrors to make people scared, and NTR can make people feel sad, guilty and insulted.
 
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07-13-10, 4:57 AM

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Aironic said:
It's my favourite pornographic genre, is netorare. For a romantic, there's little worse than love being ruined by cheating, and that makes the porn totally absorbing for me, depending on the art and writing.

Musa is my personal favourite: http://g.e-hentai.org/s/40e53ff059/175484-1

Great, sketchy art, and a story where the female doesn't fall in love with a rapist-guy. +1, I say.


Thx for that(as well as thx everyone else who's made a recommendation). I had just finished reading Musa and whilst it did turn me on, I also felt devastated. It's amazing how easily a childhood friend can fall when it comes to sex(even if it is fiction). I felt mad that the chick didn't say shit to her bf, and felt mad that the bf didn't do a thing about it either(I think the whole impotent thing served him right for not having the balls to act).

Anyways, if anyone else has a good recommendation, let me know(I could get addicted to this....maybe).
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07-13-10, 5:12 AM

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obliviouz said:
Disposable-Angel said:


It really is a complicated fetish. I actually like it and I got very mad the first time I started to like it as well but after I got over the initial feelings of it and took on the persona of the husband who is emotionally supportive I enjoyed it a lot more and I could imagine her enjoying the physical act a lot more with less guilt which increased the pleasure.



while it is a fetish I am starting to get fascinated in, I don't think I could get used to it...more to the fact that I have a partner and it makes me feel inadequate should something like this happen in RL

so I'll probably dig more into it and read the few manga titles I've scoped up so far, and see how far I get into it, but i don't think this fetish will last


Fetishes evolve and change all the time, specifically because you're an individual. Just like anything you shoes and clothes are cut to fit you so you will do the same with a fetish until it suits you perfectly.

Feeling of inadequacy are difficult but yeah I got over mine by reading the manga.

I suggest immortal sisters blossoming, its a pretty great hentai as far as this goes. Not exactly NRT but close, there a few different chapters as well you should enjoy it I think it certainly helped me understand it a lot better, although I did rage a lot after seeing just one episode and didn't continue for quite a long time despite only being A 3 PART OVA
 
07-13-10, 5:36 AM

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I had just finished reading Takenoko Seijin's "When you let go my hand", and whilst it made me rage that the girl in it was an airhead and her love was useless, I was glad there was a happy end to it....if there were more titles like this one, I could probably get used to this genre definitely!
 
08-31-10, 8:24 PM

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"I Can" is another one. Really my first noticeable instance of NTR and my god I felt like punching the creator of it right in the face repeatably. Seriously, the look on his face from 3 people lying to him, especially from his girlfriend and also another friend trying to help him. And it literally ended like that. If they did do a 3rd episode, I think it would never end happy, there would 4 different endings I would foresee: committing suicide, make the women have huge guilty consciences, kill all 3 of them, or get revenge on all of them. Honestly, I would feel better if they did that, but my god what a rage-inducing ending.
 
08-31-10, 8:57 PM

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Perhaps the thrill is in having a rival/competitor.
 
09-01-10, 5:19 AM

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I only know about NTR after clicking on some True Blue, Triangle Blue, whatever Blue thread on hongfire. Damn it, what could be worse than just rape is having the girl then like the guy who raped her. Shit makes no sense. Is it even considered rape if she likes it afterward?

Hmm one month old thread, oh well.
 
09-01-10, 5:27 AM

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lol @ NTR

that shit can make anyone pull their hairout
 
09-01-10, 5:57 AM

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ladyxzeus said:
Being deceived and lied to is nowadays something that people like?

Nice.
Yes, it's really orders of magnitude weirder than people who get on by being hit with a bullwhip, and we all know that not at least 10% of people at least secretly fantasize about that.
 
09-01-10, 6:15 AM

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I don't see the appeal :/
 
09-01-10, 6:34 AM

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There are three type of NTR....
1)partner are two-timing but they didn't know
2)partner are two-timing and he/she is angry about it
3)partner are two-timing but being calm about it

I wonder do HoTD are consider under this category....
 
09-01-10, 6:56 AM

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I wouldn't call them 3 types. Since the guy always start by not knowing anything. Then either progress to being angry, or calm afterwards. Or angry first, then acceptance afterward.

I think NTR is only classified under hentai. To describe them under just your normal anime seems out of place, since I think NTR originally came from classifying hentais in the first place. Dunno really.
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09-01-10, 7:06 AM

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well i first came across NTR through an eroge my mate was playing, but since then have come across a few via anime and manga and for the most part I seriously don't know how anyone can stomach it....in most scenario's(like Triangle Blue), the girl is cheating on the guy and the guy happens to find out but does nothing(which is totally fucked up) as she continues to enjoy saying her "no we shouldn't be doing this, I have a boyfriend" routine

another case of NTR outside of hentai is School Days where the roles are reversed
 
09-01-10, 7:20 AM

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There are 3 scenario for the creator of the story to choose from to satisfy our fetish....
Of course ,every relationship start being not knowing anything.

I wonder happen If Rei find out Takashi is having relationship with Saeko.....Actually I can't even confirm do they even have a relationship or not .
 
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