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| This show never disappoints when it come to the unconventional. She definitely was a monstrous presence on the show. An awkward one, too. I'm gonna miss her. By the way, that cute little moment after the ending credits, unnecessary. I was already feeling a little sad. And then you show cute little child version of them sleeping and eating watermelon under the tree. Too cruel.  |
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noteDhero said: I'd say this was second to worst. The worst is absolutely the first episode for me. The 2D stuff was a clever way to sidestep the fact that they had a smaller budget for the episode, but every other facet of the production seemed very cheap in a way that was disappointingly unexpected, especially for such a tense moment of development for Shichika and Nanami's death. Since she's my favorite character on the show, and just one of my favorite characters in a while, I'm very sad that this didn't really capture a whole lot of her despair the way her devoted episode did. I can't tell if we just have opposite tastes or there is just something about this anime that makes everyone in the audience have mixed reactions for different reasons. I'm not sure if this was my favorite favorite episode so far, but I actually liked it a lot, even with the whole role-playing/retro gaming cutscenes thrown into the episode. And something about the general art direction that made it feel less generic from your average anime and more-so a unique design that tried to stay as true to the original material visually as possible (I'm assuming that was the case anyway. I've only seen a couple of artworks from the novel/light novel). But I really need to ask, and I'm not trying to start a very heated debate or anything. Just what exactly is the general audience suppose to expect out of watching this anime in which they feel they were fully entertained? Meaning what kind of direction storytelling wise, art wise, etc. is the audience meant to get by watching Katanagatari? Or rather what is everyone suppose to get out of the way he tells this story (assuming the author is male)? It seems that whenever anyone watches Katanagatari, they get mixed reactions for different reasons. They'll love some episodes and dislike others. Some will love the dialogue, others won't get it. Some will love the artstyle, others won't. Thus it feels kinda hard to make heads or tails out of this anime. It's probably why I've stayed away from watching Bakemonogatari all this time. I've seen the first episode-in-a-half of that show about a year ago and while it seemed interesting, I failed to understand the excitement and praise behind those that watch this show. And if I watched it from start to finish, then I fear I would not get a very positive reaction out of this show and trying to comprehend the hype behind it would frustrate the hell out of me. But at any rate, my point is in the case of Katanagatari, is there some specific way you need to enjoy this show that I don't seem to know about? I'm merely asking for clarity at this point. |
| I'll say this one super elitist thing and then move on: I feel like art in it's truest form is personal, evoking a strong emotional reaction. And thus far, I do believe Katanagatari to be one of the shows that is very artful and entertaining at the same time. I personally had problems with the way this episode was done, and I made speculation as to why that is, but that's not to say that I didn't enjoy it. I gave it a 4/5 because I still enjoyed the episode a lot on the whole. For me, because Nanami is supposed to be the strongest in Japan, a monster from birth, I needed the animation and tension to really support that. I wanted to feel like this was a battle between titans, and instead it felt like a challenge only slightly above last month. In a way, the comic, top-down RPG stuff really detracted from the atmosphere that I was anticipating the episode to have. This wasn't in a funny way like the troll episode that actually ended up being all about Nanami, so I can't really see any justification for a lot of the decisions that undercut the tone. Now, I'm just one person, though, and a lot of other people responded in the opposite direction, so it is what it is. I'd say it's the same for Bakemonogatari. You may find aspects of that show that you really love or really hate; you might love the whole thing; you might hate the whole thing; or maybe you'll be indifferent. Look at the hype for what it is. At the end of the day, a lot of people love the show because at it's base level, Bakemongatari is a harem that panders to a few major types. I love it for the dialogue and the relationship between the leads as expressed through it. Other people hated it for that very reason. It's up to you. |
| Nooooo! Not her pretty hair! The new style does look hot though. Loved the slightly different art style and the video game parts. Very cool. |
| @noteDhero How powerful you want Nanami to be? Killing Shichika in one blow? LOL  |
| Huh? Nanami needed to die for the story. I just wish the fight would have been better (ie. good). In my perfect world, though, this show would have been about her, she would have joined Shichika and Togame, cock-blocking the whole journey-long. |
| If Nanami join Shichika,then the explanation of Shichika killing his father wouldn't fit in the story. If Nanami is not a genius in the first place, her father would have threat her better. If Nanami doesn't have his stupid sickness, She would have die during the maniwani fight . If Nanami doesn't has a big reason to fight Shichika(such as killing herself),She wouldn't even have left that island and killing of Itezora clan and wipe out he entire priest in the forsaken mountain. If Nanami didn't wipe out the clan of Itezora clan, then Shichika won't be dealing with simple minded kids that protect the sword solely because of loneliness. Anyway, since I am late for my work maybe I should just get straight to the point LOL I don't like clichéd in the story... |
noteDhero said: This is so wrong! ;____;In my perfect world, though, this show would have been about her, she would have joined Shichika and Togame, cock-blocking the whole journey-long. An alright episode. I really love how I can see how much Shichika has changed. |
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| Guess I'm not the only one who thought that this series is very similar to Muramasa: The Demon Blade. This part was such a blatant reference: |
| Great creative and emotions-filled episode. Katanagatari is a fascinating series, really epic and with huge developments each month, which is a prowess in itself. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| Didn't bother to read everything, only the last page, I came in too late but I'm finally back on schedule with Katanagatari. I also thought this episode had a lower budget, and thought that the game-like scenes were a very clever way to disguise that fact. But that's not the only thing: a lot of stuff was simply worse than other episodes. Let's talk about the things I hated the most: the closeups. When the camera zooms on someone, you expect it to be as neat as before zooming. This time around, you could count pixels: it was a pathetic digital zoom. Frequent scenes like that (I can count 3 by memory) killed the mood and took me out of the immersion in the story. On top of that, we see a lot of expedients to draw less and obtain more lengthy scenes (Maniwani walking, rotating room with blur effect when Togame and Nanami speak...). I can't believe they did THIS to the episode I've been waiting since Nanami came out of the closet. The plot was good enough to be the most intense episode of the whole series, and they scattered cheap tricks all over it. Oh well! You can't stop a journey like that, you have to go on, and so will I. Let's just cross fingers for August. |
| Thank god she died, and didn't turn in to some sort of retarded end-boss. |
| What a beast episode... sure Nanami wasn't exactly the likeably character type... but she was a great character and in the end through her strangely acts she showed some humanity. Togame's hair =( well she still looks good ^^ |
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| Why did this episode look like a bad Flash animation. Also, Touhou parody. |
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| This show may only come out once a month, but the writing and storyline are worth the wait. How sad he was given no choice but to kill her. |
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| this was one of my fav episodes of katanagatari xD i hate togame's new hairstyle it was best long but the story was great love the background of the shichika clan what a brutal family code to live by will miss nanami xD |
youngmindAug 8, 2010 8:34 PM
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| Togame's hair! :( *cries* |
| Great episode, The 2D part is so funny, Togame's Hair now is so cute well I'm kinda sad that Nanami died :( |
| This episode was interesting, Nanami the scary bitch is finally dead, what a relief. Togame's hair is gone, not too bothered about it but i think longer hair suited her better. Shichika killed his own family, jesus christ! Glad Nanami is finally dead, she wanted to die, in my opinion that's very weak. The final fight could have been better/more dramatic, it seemed too quick. We should've been able to see the individual attacks in focus because at this point i remembered the epic fight between Azula and Zuko if that rings a bell to anyone, that's the kind of thing i was expecting from this fight, but sadly we didn't get that. What i mean is we should've seen each attack getting dogded, blocked, or hit because when they were moving in this fight it seemed kind of repetitive if you know what i mean. But all in all i loved this episode, now i'm gonna watch the eighth episode. I really like the little brother and sister moment after the closing sequence, but the introduction to this episode gave me goosebumps. The narrator shouldn't spoil like that, it's pretty unfair to us viewers, i mean just because the novel is already out and people have read it doesn't mean that the viewers of this series have also read it, give us a break, tell us about something that doesn't spoil the fucking episode. |
| Manly tears were shed :* |
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| Definitely the most emotionally touching episode do far. Greatly due to the sister-brother relationship and how they grew up in terms of lifestyle and events. However, I am extremely sad to see the passing of Nanami. As she was the most frightening character I've ever seen in anime (spoken and action wise) :P. I'm still looking forward most to the relationship building between Sachika and Togame! Next episode, here we come! |
| Really liked this episode. "You weed, weed, weed, weed, weed!" Now I understand how Nanami view others, all are weeds. Love the video game bit ^_^ Notice how she miss the bonus monk during one of the game scene... those that give extra points? Interesting to see Togame contribute to Shichika's new ultimate move, she really did picked up a bit of Kyotouryuu. "How would you fight her?" "I wouldn't!" great answer... Nanami do have a rather evil side don't she? ^_^ "It's all good,"*change face* "or is it all bad?" In the end, Nanami messed up her final line as her evilness creeps in "Good job killing me!" evil smile to scar Shichika for life. |
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AirStyles said: Really liked this episode. "You weed, weed, weed, weed, weed!" Now I understand how Nanami view others, all are weeds. Love the video game bit ^_^ Notice how she miss the bonus monk during one of the game scene... those that give extra points? THIS. nothing else to say. |
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| She needed to die, yes she was a great character, but that's just the way this anime is... |
| poor animation?? you call this episode having poor animation and low budget?? how dumb do you guys can get, the drawn lines are heavy thick, characters fully detailed as well with the backgrounds, and the different style is used to give artistic touch to the show just like with bakemonogatari, and how you expect a epic fight?? an epic fight between siblings fighting each other, i think the show managed to pull off the much needed ''emotional fight'' between them, if it have shown flashy moves and the so called epic fight, the audience's focus will be in fight itself instead of in ''emotion of the siblings in the fight.'' |
AmberFebruaryDec 11, 2010 9:21 AM
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
| wow. that was sad, epic, depressing, and hints of other things all rolled into one. But I did love it when it went all RPG. sadness about the hair. i love when they laid down together with her hair wrapped around him. extremely adorable. speaking of, I want to see some action with them. lol, not the one where you think they are doing it but turns out to be something else. ANYWAYS. overall, dont know if I love it or hate it. |
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| Good, that annoying mary sue died after all, the show is getting better. |
| Togame is quickly becoming one of my favorite anime characters. Her strategy to defeat Nanami was BRILLIANT! It will take time to get used to the new hair though...this is Nina in TTGL all over again! Gahhh!! XD |
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| Wow this was kinda heavy, poor Shichika. Had to kill his father (who's suspected of killing his wife and who tried to kill Nanami) and now his sister.... I still don't like Nanami, she's kinda... annoying? Well now they aren't able to show her in the anime anymore but well I didn't hoped for this either. Togame's new hair style is quite shocking but I don't dislike it :) Shichika's new move is really cool ^^ I hope he'll use it again, maybe in the next episode? Well it was a good episode (with a lot of background information) but I hope next episode will be a bit lighter? I mean a fight between siblings is really heavy if u ask me. |
| Glad she's dead. I thought her character sucked and her power was utter bullshit. She could gain the physical strength of the Itezora clan just by SEEING their strength? How in the world does that make sense? As I said, I'm glad she's dead. |
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| Was I supposed to feel bad? |
| Can anyone please help me? There's something i couldn't understand (or missed) Why did Mutsue (Shichika's father) kill his wife? Did they ever mention that? I thought she also tried to kill Nanami. If that's true, we have a tragic chain of murders. Mutsue kills his wife who tried to kill their daughter. Then he also tries to kill her and gets killed by his own son who is trying to protect his sister. After a year and a half, that boy kills his sister. O_o |
| Amazing episode, loved the RPG bit,still..i don't feel too bad about Nanami's death, it felt..right? >.> EH..great ep either way, cute ending. RIP Nanami. |
| Wtf is going on... feels like skipped alot EDIT: That ep was depressing D: |
DesolatePsycheSep 26, 2011 11:41 AM
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| Nanami's sadistic smiles doesn't disappoint when it comes to scaring the crap out of me. I have mixed feeling about her, since she seems to be nice, pretty attractive (I sometimes think she looks better than Togame) and all that, but suddenly that smile comes and she changes to like some hyperpsycho muder bitch. |
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| Wow, there's a lot of idiots in this thread that have no idea what they're talking about. Loved this episode, though I feel like Shichika's sister died a little too early on and it could have been used better towards the ending. This episode also made me realize how damn great the soundtrack is. |
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| Pretty sure I heard both the Black Butler and Samurai Champloo OST in this episode. One of the previous eps also sounded like it had Ghost in the Shell OST's as well. I guess they're taking a lot of inspiration of similar shows to match the feel of the episodes. |
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| It would be better if the show made a bit tragic the death of nanami. Now i'm sure, Nanami is one of the scariest women in the anime world i've ever seen. |
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