They way the story is told, without actual telling us much, is just so captivating. This is the episode that proves Vicious isn't one-dimensional. He is a very complex character that stopped believing in anything and fell from grace.
I'm not sure about the war and the time Vicious met Gren, but I guess it happened between the time Vicious and Spike were comrades in Red-Dragon and the present. There was also this great companionship between the two, even brother-ship, where the two looked up to each-other. Then there is this common link that is Julia (that is still shrouded in mystery in this point). Anyway, at some point Spike wanted out, the last "job" went wrong, and looking at it this way it's as if Spike was the one who betrayed Red-Dragon and Vicious.
The ending was simply phenomenal. The group had its quarrels, but they know better that their differences aren't reason enough to abandon what they accomplished so far. They are important to each-other at this point.
Phenomenal storytelling here. It never ceases to amaze me how this series is able to take these one-shot characters and make them memorable. In the case of Gren I actually felt sad for him. I think I may of gotten goosebumbs at the end. In short:
insan3soldiern said: Beautiful
Jupiter Jazz is probably my favorite episode so far.
insan3soldiern said: Phenomenal storytelling here. It never ceases to amaze me how this series is able to take these one-shot characters and make them memorable. In the case of Gren I actually felt sad for him. I think I may of gotten goosebumbs at the end.
I think this is why I am coming to really love Bebop.
Grim0013 said: Somehow they manage to have something sad [emotional] and tragic without making the viewer sad.
It's a art, I say.
While I'm still confused as to all the events that occurred, I liked what I saw. The music continues to impress, and it seems all the characters have grown, especially Faye and Spike.
So Julia is finally starting to become a plot element, one thing that got me thinking is what did fade(Blue haired girl) said when she mentioned Julia was she reffering to gren or to Julia the actual one
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giraffesyo said: Knew they'd get back together but thought Spike would get the bounty.. Seems better this way though because it shows Jet is accepting either way... He just wants his friend back.
of course.. I think Jet and Spike are good friends and even though they "argued" they knew they'd get back on as a team again. It's like one of those good friendships that I've seen in many anime's where they say they don't care/won't take the friend back, but in the end (like all good friends) reconcile.
Great episode.. Both parts, episode 12+13. It was.. captivating to say at the very least, I wanted to know more but, it just went on... Upset that he died at the end, wish he could've said more about Julia/whereabouts. But it did explain characters a little bit more.. and it makes you think.
"Who's Vicious.. Why did he have to deal with him? How is Julia tied up with all these people? How is Julia such a big impact on Vicious/Spikes lives? Only time will tell."
By far.. it reveals so much.. but so little. And the ending.. the tear of a warrior. Great saying..(imo)
I KNEW Cowboy Bebop would make this two-parter truly spectacular! Ridiculously deep histories are given to brand new characters that all link to the protagonists in really meaningful ways; the two-parter can stand up on it's own, yet adds more to the overall storyline by hinting to a dark past that Spike is hiding; the tension slowly mounts until it reaches a standoff that results in an all-out dogfight sequence, which is tightly directed and exciting throughout; and it all ends on an extremely emotional note that links back to the seemingly out-of-place opening of the first episode.
And the power of this two-parter is only ever increased when a beautiful new song introduces the credits, and when a question that directly quotes the episode ends it. 9.5/10
Great episode some more back story on spike and this Julia person I do wonder if he'll ever find her! Lets hope that the writers put another arc for her in the anime somewhere! This 2 parted episode was quite lovely with story development!
We're also now in 50% of the Anime so lets see what the second half has to offer!
Best episode so far, the way the past is slowly revealed, how the characters' stories wrap up with each other, and that ending was just beautiful, the scene with the Bull talking about the star was amazing now that it made sense.
Great two part episode. The ending really brought everything together. I really liked that ending song, enough that I will go searching for it later, it had a kind of Somber African Chant style in it, which really fit the mood and the direction of the episode. I am finding myself intrigued by Vicious and I really want to get to know his philosophy more and more.
Unfortunately, I won't be finishing this anime by today, some unexpected things came up, I'll get one with this show by tomorrow.
It's been a ride so far, let's hope the second half improves and expands on the story even more.
The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.
I love the chemistry between the main cast. Jet used the excuse that Faye had stolen a lot of their money as a reason for finding her, but you could see that Jet genuinely cared about her and wanted her back.
What about that thing: "The work, which becomes a new genres itself, will be called... Cowboy Bebop".
Ok, ok, I gotta admit: considering the age of this show, it is pretty awesome but aren't they bragging too much?
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En éste episodio encaja una sola expresión: Maravilloso o WHOA! La historia en torno a las conexiones entre los personajes y ese final afable con el OST "Space Lion", fue excelente para un final memorable.
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In this episode fits one expression: Wonderful! (AKA: WHOA!) The story around the connections between characters and that affable final with the OST "Space Lion", it was excellent for a memorable farewell.
So Spike's fluffy coat didn't save him, but it was just a tranquilizer. I really like the background music for this episode. Well, all the episodes have great sounds, but I hadn't really paid much attention till now.
xSanox said: rewatching cowboy bebop and man episode 12-13 are one of the many reasons why it is a 10 just perfect episodes and one of watanabe's best.
I couldn't agree more.
“If it were a third-rate TV anime, a dead protagonist can come back to life at the producers’ convenience. But the world we live in is not such a convenient place. Lost lives will never return. Because of it, we live in a world where a life is an irreplaceable existence.”
Lots of twist, action, suspense and dark atmosphere!
So Gren was really man who had a sickness of low testosterone. Still doesn't explain how he develop boobs on it :P
And wow, he was just using Julia's name as a cover up. So let me get this straight. Gren and Vicious used to be war buddies a long time ago. Then out of nowhere Vicious backstabs Gren and framing him as a spy just because he was only interested with the musical piece he heard.
Then sometime after the war, Vicious met Spike and that's how they became buddies until Vicious backstabs Spike once more.
So not only Vicious backstabs two close friends who are there to help him, but also leaves out that Lin guy despite him protecting in death.
I'm actually surprise Spike and Gren didn't knew each other. Then again, Gren did serve time in jail due to Vicious.
Still how did Gren met Juilia? Same thing with Spike?
I'm just glad Faye is finally back on the team! Never leave again Faye :P
Lots of answers revealed, but more questions keep piling up!
Amazing stuff! Though it seems we're back to "Stand Alone" episodes aka Bounty stuff once more.