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11-29-09, 5:45 AM

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Captain_GARlock said:
What's with all you idiots calling her Lil? Watch a fansub group who can actually translate and pay attention yourself, her name is displayed on screen several times.

As for me, I watch this anime with dubbing, so I have already got accustemed to call her Lil, though it is wrong.
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01-04-10, 4:28 AM

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Re_L may b a little arrogant, but I'm really begining to like her.
She kinda reminds me of myself.
She's my 2nd fav next to CC.

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03-26-10, 11:30 AM

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Man, who knew Real was such a spoiled bitch? I never really cared for her in the first place, but I bet she'll start to change now. Great episode.
 
05-09-10, 8:13 AM

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Sad episode, you really can't help feeling sorry for how Iggy was treated by Re-l the whole time. But she seemed truly sorry for being so arrogant and rude to him.
 
07-01-10, 10:53 AM

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I have conflicted thoughts towards Re-l. I hope she stops acting so spoiled and arrogant, for her sake as well as others. Maybe that is expecting too much though considering her upbriging; regent's daughter and a heavily controlled life. It's not easy to break those habits and thought processes she had grown up with for years. Still, I hope she does. It would make her much more likeable.
 
07-09-10, 11:59 PM

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Iggy!...
 
07-18-10, 1:29 AM

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Poor Iggy! And poor Vincent for his sad unrequited love.
 
08-05-10, 2:06 AM

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in the end you could see Iggy's conflicting emotions, like a split personality. :( She killed him to soothe the pain :(
 
08-07-10, 12:11 AM

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Iggy was a little bipolar there "Re-L please don't hate me :'(. RE-L YOU USELESS *BEEP*!! Re-L don't hate me. RE-L YOU *BEEP*!!" haha XD
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08-10-10, 3:09 AM

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Captain_GARlock said:
What's with all you idiots calling her Lil? Watch a fansub group who can actually translate and pay attention yourself, her name is displayed on screen several times.


So it never crossed your mind that Re-l MIGHT be the japanese way to write lil? Wow. Pronunciation in japanese is quite different from english, and almost all names can be romanized in multiple ways. Not knowing that you call other people idiots, way to go.

On topic, fuck even Pino is more of a man than Vincent. He's been a total wuss all this time and I'm slowly getting tired of it

I also wish Lil was my wife :3 for I'm big into spousal abuse. Shit that bitch's getting annoying, it's pretty obvious we'll see some character development on her part, so maybe that'll be fixed in the next episode.
 
08-12-10, 1:02 PM

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Zomg, an Iggy-centered episode!
I must say I've always liked him much more than I liked Re-l (who's a whiny, spoiled bitch), so seeing him being treated like trash by her all the time, and then die...I'm a sad panda now D:
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08-16-10, 2:23 PM

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5 out of 5: Loved it! (your vote)

Re-L was a total bitch in this episode. I'm so glad she got smacked around for a bit!!
 
11-06-10, 9:49 AM

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Virus really hit Iggy there. I can't blame him for what he said to Re-L. He's been with her for a long time observing her and stuff, so he let it all out.
 
11-11-10, 9:08 AM

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Nayah said:
Can't blame Iggy for his actions at all.


No. I'm sad he 'died' :<. Also I loved Vincent in this episode - he was so lovably dorky.
 
12-06-10, 9:35 AM

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Shit Lil is a bitch. If she doesn't change later I'll hate her.

+1, but I hate her already.
 
02-06-11, 8:20 PM

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I can't really blame Re-l for being a bitch in this episode (almost all the preceding episodes actually, LOL) since she lived a sheltered and pampered life in the city all her life, that verbal abuse from Iggy is only a slap in the wrist if she doesn't get her act together to survive in the outside world. Character development here comes Re-l! XD
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05-01-11, 1:48 PM

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I hoped Re-l and Iggy could have a good talk and then could join the journey.
But Re-l turned out to be to arrogant even in this situation. To bad he died like that.
but it makes things easier now he is not around anymore.
 
07-08-11, 7:46 AM

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How disappointing I thought Re-l is a badass one but her spoiled attitude is quite fascinating.
 
11-20-11, 1:11 AM

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Great episode. Iggy.... Iggy had soul.:(
 
01-23-12, 2:48 PM

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This is getting better and better! I begin to really like it!
 
04-25-12, 2:16 AM

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Gah.. so sad. TT
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05-03-12, 7:33 AM

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Just watched this for the third or fourth time last night. I still feel bad for Iggy. Twas an epic death though!
 
05-12-12, 2:55 AM

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Aw, Iggy! I really liked him.
 
07-08-12, 8:13 PM

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wow first time ive cried in this series so far. iggy's conflicted emotions as he died made me tear up with pity, you can see he has no idea, being new to this freedom, how to sort the equal amounts of love and resentment he's developed for his master. idk all his conflict and confusion and anger just really struck true to me

re-l is a bitch and vincent is a bit wussy but they're real and thats what matters
 
08-28-12, 2:20 PM

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Nice episode though what a twist with Iggy!
 
09-19-12, 6:44 PM

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I loved that episode. Iggy was awesome, too bad he died. My favorite quote from ergo proxy so far :D :

 
10-19-12, 1:15 PM

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Such an emotional episode. I always liked Iggy from the start. Too bad he had to die for Re-l's character development.
Although he grew hatred during the entire episode but the conflicting emotions during his last seconds still shows that he still care for Re-l.

Pino and Vincent have funny moments btw. lol
 
12-15-12, 3:36 PM

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One of my favourite episodes right now. It moved me a lot when Iggy uncovered what he really 'thinks' about Re-l ... and still he showed a true 'heart' for her. The battle of emotions were too damn high, even for me. Great final for Iggy.

" I'm reading the book ! >:( " :D
 
01-19-13, 12:50 AM

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Poor Iggy :( I want Vincent to be able to fully control his Proxy power, not on/off like this
 
02-02-13, 10:00 AM

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Iggy went crazy lol. That other robot also.

 
03-09-13, 9:17 PM

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Iggy turned into a yandere auto-reiv, kind of. I also don't hate him, because Re-l hasn't always been treating him the way he deserves to be treated. Even though he cussed and yelled at Re-l, he still stayed loyal to her and wanted to be by her side ;_; it was definitely sad at the end when he said "don't hate me" mixed in with his "you bitch."

And yeah, it was definitely obvious that Vincent would give her back the gun. Also, I love how badass he was when he knocked the gun out of Iggy's hand.
 
03-14-13, 4:56 AM

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Aaah, didn't see that one coming... It seems like Iggy may have unintentionally caused his own death, hanging around the masterless autoreiv girl while carrying on about killing Vincent. And also possibly infecting her with cogito if she didn't have it already.

Re-l was being a real spoilt bitch most of this episode... Glad she showed some remorse in the end.

The highlight for me however, was definitely Pino's pouty face when asked to help gather firewood. "I'm reading a book!" Lol.
 
04-20-13, 9:07 PM

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GoodEnoughForMe said:
I have conflicted thoughts towards Re-l. I hope she stops acting so spoiled and arrogant, for her sake as well as others. Maybe that is expecting too much though considering her upbriging; regent's daughter and a heavily controlled life. It's not easy to break those habits and thought processes she had grown up with for years. Still, I hope she does. It would make her a better person, understanding respect for others and still being strongly rational.


FFM.

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I loved that episode. Iggy was awesome, too bad he died. My favorite quote from ergo proxy so far :D :



God, I gave Iggy a standing applause for that line. I'm so glad SOMEONE finally said it.
きみ は だれ だい?
ぼく は ラムボ!
ぼく は だれ だい?
きみ は ラムボ!
ラムボ なんでし!
 
05-02-13, 7:52 AM

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I wasn't expecting Iggy to be infected since that time in Romdeau, that was the mindblown of the episode for me. Also surprised at Re-l and her bickering, she seemed nicer in the other episodes.
 
05-23-13, 2:23 AM

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Amazing episode.
 
06-10-13, 10:23 AM

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Serves Re-L right! She's been nothing but a bitch since the beginning. I find it hard to see what Vincent Law sees in her.

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06-28-13, 5:04 AM

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That was one excellent episode. Ialready suspected that Iggy had the cogito virus and it was fascinating to see how it humanized him. Re-L really needed an attitude adjustment and maybe Iggy's death and Vincent's trust in her can provide the needed spark for that to happen.
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09-19-13, 2:36 PM

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I thought iggy was going to be made into another main character chasing them and trying to kill vincent, didnt think he'd die here. another great episode, this is really drawing me in.

I knew vince would give her back the gun though :P

She is a bit if a bitch, especially towards the autoreivs, but now she understands the cogito virus first hand, i think her attitude towards pino will change and she'll stop treating her like an object.

I have a feeling the next episode is gonna be trippy...
Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead?
 
10-02-13, 1:26 AM

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Wow wasn't expecting Iggy to go all Bi-polar psycho on us, I guess I got so used to Pino I forgot how nuts the cogito virus makes most of the autoreivs. Also really wasn't expecting him to die, was quite sad. Seeing Re-L crying at his grave at the end was heartbreaking.

Oh and I don't feel Re-L is a bitch at all, maybe a bit spoiled at times but thats to be expected being the daughter of the reagent and all. Personally I love her character, shes definitely my favorite of this series so far.
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10-23-13, 6:27 PM

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woah sad episode, iggy was pissed to say the least, although lil did seem upset by it all, funny ending though with vincent probably the best episode so far actually or definitely up there!
 
11-04-13, 1:57 PM

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Iggy was pretty creepy . . . I didn't expect him to be that obsessed with Re-l . . . Or rather use the "If I keep her trapped she will be all mine!" line of thought.
 
11-10-13, 12:43 AM

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I didn't expect Iggy to act that way, especially since he has had the cogito cirus for a lot longer than I originally thought.
God his character is so good. Definitely one of the best android type characters in a story i have seen/read.
Hhhaha that was like instant highschool boy mode when Vincent left Lil at the end XD.

So is the cogito virus just supposed to be the autoreivs becoming self aware? or what? anyone got any theories?
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11-10-13, 12:45 AM

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anciah said:
great!
it showed that even machines have feelings :)


once they are infected with a 'heart'
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11-12-13, 6:08 PM

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the part where Iggy punches Re-l made. my. life. this episode truly showed me why I sticked to the show even though it was kinda boring at the start. It had to be that way, construct something very carefully so you can enjoy while you destroy it later, I get that concept. I was confused because the sub said "teacher" but I think it meant "master", the dark autorave was the robot of the big ass proxy, but why would a proxy have its own servant? Probably it was a human until some sick experiment and bam! She/it stayed by the side of this giant mf and when it died she lost all meaning, and being infected searched for revenge, human-wise. I really like this new perspective in the "robots get conciousness" world. Heck I love it. thanks Ergo
 
12-22-13, 9:21 AM

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No Iggy.....no.....
 
01-02-14, 10:13 PM

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I expected Iggy to become infected ever since they first mentioned the cogito virus in the earlier episodes but still ; - ;
 
02-19-14, 7:26 PM

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I use to really like Re-l, but after the last two episodes she's turned into a little brat that I just can't stand her. I'm sure she'll do some sort of character growth before the end but this anime's losing points for me. Crossing my fingers for some good future episodes.
 
03-01-14, 8:16 PM

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Iggy was 100% right she is a bitch. Though maybe him actually dieing will make her not be a bitch anymore.
 
03-01-14, 8:22 PM

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Serves Re-L right! She's been nothing but a bitch since the beginning. I find it hard to see what Vincent Law sees in her.

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well she is still pretty. So theres that.
 
03-10-14, 12:25 PM

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Feel really bad for Iggy. But the hate for Re-l is really baffling imo, I don' think she's selfish or anything in particular. The fact that she couldn't understand Iggy's feelings is because of the fact she thinks he has no soul, which is kinda right since he's an autoreiv.
I'm more interested in Iggy saying Re-l 'incomplete'...i hope its just a figure of speech.
A good episode nonetheless.
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