Katekyo Hitman Reborn == Sexist?
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Women don't have to fight to be strong, which Amano was trying to prove. Most of the time, just supporting and being there for the main character is actually better than fighting. Understanding the situation and providing emotional support stabilizes the main character's doubts and feelings and makes them stronger. There's an old saying, behind every successful man, there is a woman. The woman helps the man become successful in the background. Also, remember, ep 165, Bianchi mentioned pride of a man. As women, we have to swallow our own pride to allow the man's pride to shine through or else they will not be able to be strong men.
Someone commented Bleach had better characters. I beg the differ, Orihime actually hurt Ichigo by saying stupid things like "Why did he come save me" "He's scary looking, I don't know him anymore!" despite him fighting hard to save her. Matsumoto could fight, yes, but compared to the other characters, she couldn't do much either, she can't even provide emotional support.
Women who can fight can be awesome, but in reality, they will never be able to surpass a man. However, women who can support in any situation, despite their own feelings of being scared, hide them and continue smiling to support the ones they love are also admirable. People seem to forget that there is a reason housewives are housewives. Taking care of children, cooking and cleaning are considered full time jobs and is by no means an easy task. The girls have to do that and provide emotional support and keep smiling. They're the strongest characters in Reborn in my opinion.
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What bothers me about this fandom(Anime fandom in general) is = when someone sees a female in the kitchen they automatically think: "Oh, she's weak.". Is it just me or does that seem like a case of 'Real Females Don't Wear Dresses", hm? Not every female can fight. Kyoko and Haru (Two main females) don't have that capability, seeing as they were thrust into a world they had no idea existed and weren't informed on the true mass of the issue until very late.
My argument on Uni is that the Sky Arcobaleno wouldn't fight regardless. Though I'm not that much a fan of Chrome as I am of Haru and Kyoko, she seriously is trying her best to become stronger. That's the part I like: Amano-sensei didn't just give her the automatic ability to be gifted, after all she was thrusted into the Mafioso world shortly before the story began, and Mukuro's been genetically enhanced and training his powers since he was like, I don't know, eight? So yeah, obviously he's going to be better skilled. As for Bianchi, her area of expertise lies in Poison Cooking. Also in the future she has a Storm Box Weapon, and seems pretty capable with it. Concerning Lal, she was DYING. What do you expect? I'm surprised she made it that far, seeing as many wouldn't. I-pin's future self is said to be the most promising hitman. Nana is a whole 'nother argument. She is a lot like Kyoko, in smiling when she really wants to cry, or sending her husband and son off when she really wants them to stay. She probably knows the horrors of the world they live in, but refuses to say anything, because she knows they wish to protect.
@Kazemon. ILU. This is EXACTLY what I wanted to say. It annoys me so much when a girl's emotional strength is totally overlooked for physical strength. Of course, I'm not against physically strong female characters at all, but I hate when people go around calling a girl weak just because she can't lift a two-ton rock or throw a punch. I do believe everyone is missing Amano's point, where she makes it so not all strong female characters have to be physically strong. Same goes for the boys and Tsuna most of all. His physical strength comes from his emotional drive. If he didn't want to protect his friends and didn't have the will, then this manga would've been over a long time ago.
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I agree with Kazemon and ScaredHeart but I was hoping that something like this would happen... The 2 girls (Haru & Kyoko) learn about what the guys are doing --> They don't want to be a burden --> Ask Reborn to at least teach them how to do a little bit of fighting or use flames since I think Kyoko would sun flames she could be in like a medical group I mean they don't have to be strong just learn how to to protect themselves (I hate the 'Knight in shining armor' thing) or help (I mean I've never seen them take care of an injured person before haahhahah.....) or something and Cindycow what about Lal, Bianchi, Daniela or Oregano?
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Ok, I know this thread is from like 3 years ago and anime has improved on the subject matter since then, but I'm going to add in my 2 cents just because. And keep in mind that I am a man, so this will be from a man's viewpoint.
I agree with Kazemon and SacredHeart about a woman not needing to fight in order to be strong, but noticeably, this is a very common thing in action anime. Yes, it's great that you can provide emotional and physical support by providing people with food and being the only one that can take care of the children while still being able to smile. That makes you strong. But seeing this 50 times gets pretty damn old and you just gotta see a girl kick some ass. It's pretty ridiculous to see a girl that's about to get kidnapped and she can't fight but all she can do is be "strong" by "voicing her opinion" or be "weak" and do nothing. Either way, she's gonna get kidnapped if she doesn't physically fight back.
And I dunno who thought of this atrocious thought of "we don't want to see our women get beaten up, so we make them weak" I mean, really? I don't know if you know this, but if you're gonna be fighter, pretty damn sure you're going to take some hits.
Also, you're missing the point. Why does Amano-sensei have them fight in the first place if they're just going to lose or get saved all the time? Gurl, you're a girl, you created this series, take full advantage of that. Believe it or not, not all guys only enjoy watching guys fight. And even then, you should be taking risks! who cares what people will say, the anime that take big risks are usually the best ones!
Realistically, yes, a woman will never be physically stronger than a man, because of genetics n'stuff. But this is anime. It's fantasy. Do whatever the hell you want, because fuck logic.
And lastly, keep in mind that it is the 21st century, not the Dark Ages where chivalry was a thing. Girls don't need to fight to prove that they're strong, BUT GUYS DON'T EITHER!!! Men can voice their opinions and work hard without having to "prove their strength" by punching someone out. I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see an anime where both of these roles were reversed completely, where girls fight, and guys aren't useless, but provide a strong emotional and physical backbone. Quite honestly ( i mean no offense and all) Katekyo Hitman Reborn is the most stereotypical shounen anime I have ever seen in my life. (yup, it even beat Dragon Ball Z).
Soooo yeah, that's my essay on the topic at hand...