Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou Episode 12 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou Episode 12 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 117 | 45.53% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 68 | 26.46% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 44 | 17.12% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 19 | 7.39% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 9 | 3.50% |
Voters: 257
#81
06-19-10, 1:14 PM
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Considering how much they rushed the plot since ep 9...this ending was pretty good...not as good as it could have been if they had a 24+ episodes but I enjoyed it for the most part 7/10...i also want a remake of it...it could be done a lot better! |
#82
06-19-10, 2:19 PM
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Lol, what was with the 'middle of the night BAM midday' transition? xD Hahaha. Well, started better than it ended, that's for sure. Don't think I'd be eager to watch a second season. I had some laugh, mostly at the beginning, but then the nonsensical overtook the funny. Peterhausen was cool though...and of course he had to die =.= Gah. - If you believe this place holds you, it is a prison. If you do not wish to leave, it will become a fortress. Current icon: Kusuriuri from Mononoke by pana (LJ username) |
#83
06-19-10, 2:57 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 226 |
hakuma said: no. no second season! if they thought that they could be renewed for a second season even after that mess of a plot (and apparently they did since they left the ending open for continuation with the whole reprediction that he will become demon lord again BS), then instead they should have focused on using what they crammed into the first 7-8eps and expanded it with good pacing/character development/world building to make a good 12ep series from the start. one that actually deserves a second season. they didn't earn it, so they shouldn't get it. yea, it was mindlessly enjoyable at times, so i continued it. but there were way too many times where it crashed and burned in an epic facepalming fail. that was even before they introduced brave. (BRAVE! >_<) and dude, don't give me the whole harem genre excuse, cuz there have been plenty decent fantasy action x ecchi harem series that still managed at least a semblance of a plot/good execution. to be fair, i was surprised that they were able to throw in the whole reality rewrite thing to the ending - convenient and ridiculous, but still pretty clever. at least until they undid everything with their "back to status quo" end montage. ugh. i agree and disagree with that comment. as for now, i argue, no second season, UNLESS they become like the FMA:B people and realize "hey we fucked up that first show, let's make a comeback and produce a show equal to greatness!" FMA:B is fucking greatness, but to do a feat like that is not easy. |
#84
06-19-10, 3:11 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 676 |
The soap opera music was key for this episode -- I was able to laugh through it instead of cringe. 6/10 because I really enjoyed the first half of the series. |
#85
06-19-10, 3:28 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 79 |
Hooray, Keena didn't win the color wars! |
#86
06-19-10, 4:14 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 395 |
Omg, I rushed these last three episodes. Brave? Heroic dragon death? Shirtless demon gods? 4/10. |
#87
06-19-10, 5:17 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1551 |
Akuto still become Demon Lord in future... |
#88
06-19-10, 6:46 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 3071 |
pretty lag o_o ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
#89
06-19-10, 7:21 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1180 |
So is it safe to assume Peter the Dragon is the hero....... Modified by SkyFade, 06-19-10, 7:40 PM |
#90
06-19-10, 7:41 PM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 410 |
If it wasn't rushed it would of been great but i suppose pretty good all things considering, hope for a second season xD |
#91
06-19-10, 8:47 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 217 |
soooo i'm confused about what went on about the whole episode...the other keena somehow had an ability to change everything...but then nothing changed!? he was still teh demon lord -_-; and everyone is happy and the end was kinda messed up...anyone else confused?? |
#92
06-19-10, 8:59 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 4883 |
The ending is splendid done. hatred bring war ,war bring peace, peace bring dissatisfaction ,dissatisfaction bring hatred again ^^ I like this Anime because its moral didn't focus on just defeating the system like its done in terra he...... but this series is focus on the inevitable process(lifestyle) itself ...what can you complaint about it,since they mixed harem in this series from the start till the end.I guess this is the most suitable result they come out.do you know what i mean??? "The end is perfect" the last sentence in the episode probably there is no more second season. 10/10 ^^ Modified by MorningGlory, 06-19-10, 9:04 PM |
#93
06-19-10, 9:18 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 383 |
Wait.... so God Suhara is dead rite? Then why is mana still possible to use and why is there still a Demon Lord? Not to mention, what really happened after the explosion? Did everything reset itself? giraffe13280 said: soooo i'm confused about what went on about the whole episode...the other keena somehow had an ability to change everything...but then nothing changed!? he was still teh demon lord -_-; and everyone is happy and the end was kinda messed up...anyone else confused?? Me lol. I am also wondering why no one else is confused. By the way what happened to Bouichiro, CIM08, the green girl's family ? And what happened to Junko after she renounced her family? Some how I feel the the conclusion is pretty badly done... but I'm sure at least 60% of the audience watching this ep won't even think anything's wrong. Modified by Dunkjoe, 06-19-10, 9:23 PM |
#94
06-19-10, 10:37 PM
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Dunkjoe said: Keena(the yellow hair) rewrites the story a bit and return back to life of Akuto to what it is really was before.She also delete everyone's memory except the a few character.Wait.... so God Suhara is dead rite? Then why is mana still possible to use and why is there still a Demon Lord? Not to mention, what really happened after the explosion? Did everything reset itself? this is the only part which i feel very weird because it sound as if Kenaa more like a God herself or maybe she is The GOD . Let take from a different point of view. "Women give pleasure to men" and "men give the feeling of protection to women" If a demon lord's ambition(pleasure) is destroy the system, his girlfriend(god) will provide him the pleasure of it.And his girlfriend also will think his boyfriend act cool and both party get what they want but the best part is that both party doesn't realize it. ^^ hahahah don't take my idea seriously,just enjoy the show Modified by MorningGlory, 06-19-10, 10:55 PM |
#95
06-19-10, 11:01 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 839 |
Well I didn't like the ending in particular, otherwise it was a good run. |
#96
06-19-10, 11:11 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 383 |
MorningGlory said: Dunkjoe said: Keena(the yellow hair) rewrites the story a bit and return back to life of Akuto to what it is really was before.She also delete everyone's memory except the a few character.Wait.... so God Suhara is dead rite? Then why is mana still possible to use and why is there still a Demon Lord? Not to mention, what really happened after the explosion? Did everything reset itself? this is the only part which i feel very weird because it sound as if Kenaa more like a God herself or maybe she is The GOD . Let take from a different point of view. "Women give pleasure to men" and "men give the feeling of protection to women" If a demon lord's ambition(pleasure) is destroy the system, his girlfriend(god) will provide him the pleasure of it.And his girlfriend also will think his boyfriend act cool and both party get what they want but the best part is that both party doesn't realize it. ^^ hahahah don't take my idea seriously,just enjoy the show Qn is did they return to the past? But with all the debris still lying there I dun think so. Plus what was changed? Akuto's life seemed to go back to the past... but dun tell me God Sahara was resurrected in the process too? Cos if God Sahara is gone then everything should be drastically different. I believe Akuto did destroy the tree. |
#97
06-19-10, 11:49 PM
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@Dunkjoe That is the reason I am confuse but also astounded That Keena said she can alter the history.If God Suhara is just a system then would keena be the Real God?? Ok ,return back to the question. Maybe they return back to the past just like Bouichiro,but since Keena(yellow hair) said he alter the story so it(to restart again) kinda confuse because she is doing the impossible.For me I believe the Real God or story maker are Keena herself, it doesn't really matter the big fat tree destroyed. "I want to fulfill what the two who fell in love with me wish for"~Keena(yellow hair) I think this is the most important quote in the whole episode. Of course this sentence can be said by any highschool girl in the world. But in the world of Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou ,it is different.but the two guy's ambition is like OMG taking over the world hard to fulfill and Keena able to do it.So I was like " WOW " Modified by MorningGlory, 06-20-10, 12:08 AM |
#98
06-20-10, 12:04 AM
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Offline Joined: May 2009 Posts: 265 |
Lame final episode is lame. This series was so much better the first five episodes. Maybe cause it lacked lame brave. Maybe cause even though the twists unbelievable made sense. Maybe it's because they focused on my personal favorite Etou more so I was able to enjoy it. Then later they turned her into more of a gag. Also I still don't get wtf is up with Yamato Bouichirou. I get he is suppose to be some kind of time traveling bull shit. But then why does he have a grave? Why was this never addressed? Back in episode 5 they had to go to his grave to get the recording. Was he dead and brought back to life with magic? Did he put a grave there so no one would know he was able to live forever or some bull shit? Was it really just put there to hide the recording thingy? EXPLAIN SERIES EXPLAIN! Oh wait it's over FUUUUU Also I don't like Keena normally I am like yeah bubbly air heads are cute. Though she is obviously retarded. None of the other air heads reach quite her level I don't get what is to like about her. I was kind of like ohh when it seemed like she was just playing dumb. Though really she isn't she is just naturally that stupid. Her other side or whatever from what I could gather is the one who holds all wisdom she just magically knows all. And it's not used in a clever way she is just stupid. These are just mostly my opinions though. Not to mention it never explains shit about her past. Why didn't she recognize him being it hinted they knew each other?! This anime was good and I enjoyed it but it really fell short later episodes. |
#99
06-20-10, 12:51 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1685 |
It's a bit rushed but I don't mind that, because watching Daimaou is really fun for me. I rate it 8/10. No Peterhausen ;_; died. At the end was really funny, he'll become a Demon lord againxD |
#100
06-20-10, 1:08 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 671 |
Brave ruined the whole series. Well that and rushing. |

























