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| I ended up playing the visual novel, I went for Ellis route first so I can save the others for later, Kiri and Tomoko's routes were far better. |
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| 75 % of the story was all about Elis, and I rooted for her. Marriage of cousins is common in Japan. Kiri is just too plain and looks average. But still it was unexpected that Hiroki chose her, it never hinted that he has a romantic feelings towards her. He only blushed in hospital bed scene and that's it. |
blessofcurseDec 16, 2014 5:10 PM
| well damn, I watched most of this series with 3/4th attention but still pretty decent. Seriously thought Tomoko died on the plane or something until I let the credits roll a bit. Waited the entire series for that incestual moment and it delivered. notbad.jpeg |
YagokoroEirin said: Elis Suck,Selfish Bitch. <3 This |
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| I was really satisfied that Elis and his cousin got to hook up; she really loved him and at times it was painful to watch how sad she was when he had rejected her. One thing that could have made the ending a lot better, was to develop a little bit further between the part at the airport and the final scene in France. |
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| Satisfying ending. Really good series. Beautiful art and animation. Great soundtrack ND OP/ED songs. I really miss series like this nowadays. 8/10 |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| lolwut that ending, and I also thought Tomoko chan died because of not taking her pills??? DID THEY F**K at the end??? |
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| What a horrible ending jesus. Elis became straight insufferable towards the latter half. Is this based off a vn? Poor kiri jesus christ. Shit show all around |
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| Felt bad for Kiri, because she had always loved Hiroki. But no objections with the ending. |
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| Ah, the longevity of the Otaku world... I am definitely surprised by so many of these angry, disappointed posts. You people all sound like my Grandparents or something.... Cousins!! Incest!! Disgraceful!! I have more to say to you in the paragraph after the next - you know you want to hear it, you backwards geriatrics! I'm just kidding. No real offense intended there. Sometimes ya can't help the way you feel, I know. ** SPOILERS for Canvas2 Visual Novel ** SPOICLERS SPOILERS **** Lot of disappointed people at the end there. I just finished the VN and had watched some of the anime but had not completed them ... The VN - although a different medium, and like all of this stuff, is a matter of taste -- the Anime did have a pretty decent look to it.. However - even with so many "episodes", the VN is much longer than that, and really allows one to "get to know" each of the characters to a much greater extent. As far as Yanagi - the writer (I don't recall how many were involved - for so many routes, it seems likely there'd be a few but ... don't know for sure) anyway - the writer messed up with Yanagi and Hiroki, and even Kiri, when it comes to that. What he did - unforgivable - I don't care who you are, Mother Theresa would kick you in the face. And yeah - to feel SOOO BAAD... in one moment, and then turn to the girl you love and propose to her... well - that was the VN, so - apologies if that didn't happen in the anime. I almost dropped the VN because Yanagi gets Kiri if you don't go for her route... he needs a f***ing karma bomb to explode on his head, not to get the girl. Writers ROYALLY SCREWED THAT ASPECT OF WRITING... totally some B.S. altruistic fantasy garbage - "Hey kids -steal your best friend's best work and life-long dream, and pass it off as your own - it PAYS BIG-TIME!!! And Kiri - not just being disgusted by it, letting it slide and even going with him (in other routes) - made me REALLY want to punch that writer. Next time I'm in Japan... yep. Gotta find that person. Of course, if it's a girl, I'll have to settle for sternly scolding her. OK Cousins marrying - you're insulting a LOT of people in this world with your stern judgments and aspersions cast. On the subject of children - I have a brother with a genetics degree, spoke about it at length, then went online and got a better understanding from some Scientific Pubs and such on genealogy. Even siblings can have a child and the likelihood of there being disabilities or ANY issues is SMALL... The ISSUE with incest is NOT about a single-pairing. It is about successive pairings over several generations - such as in Royal bloodlines of old... dynasties and such.. A single incidence does reduce some of the genetic protections that a random pairing benefits from - but statistically, the increase in likelihood of problems _with that one pairing having offspring_ is not great. Unless there was already a significant incidence of in-breeding in the sibling's lineage. Don't take my word for it - go read about it yourself. The myth surrounding incest is just that - myth. Evolution does a pretty good job of removing "those" feelings from typical sibling relationships - as most of us are aware. Just like you close-minded types, the idea of hooking up with one of my sisters is ... unthinkable. May as well put me with a 100 yr old woman or ... hell, a dude. Which is just to say - totally not happening. BUT... if two people - people I knew or did not know - somehow managed to actually fall in love - feel the way that I have (like for at least a few of my girlfriends - past or present) - well, I DO NOT ENVY THEM. It's a social stigma almost everywhere - now cousins, eh... not so much. there's still quite a bit of diversity with the other two parents, plus the fact that there is no SAME parent, which is quite different from a sibling genetically (i.e. no chance of matching on a DNA test, for sure, even if they are TWINS)... well - like I said - I wouldn't envy them. It's not always just about the sex (and I am sure it wasn't in Hiroki's case with Elis - their relationship - in the VN anyway - was pretty deep... but regardless - to have a romantic love "in your heart" - it's not easy to put aside, now is it? IRL I mean. Now - I understand folks getting all "Rush Limbaugh" (conservative) about siblings. But not cousins. Nope. As has already been said - it's legal and socially accepted in Japan (these originated in Japan - you probably got that from the names, right? Just messin' with you) So -- try to relax, you'll probably live longer ;-) Admittedly, I probably lean toward Kiri a little bit, but Ellis is right up there too [from the VN though.. not this anime. Heck - surprisingly, in the VN I liked almost all of the heroines. There _were_ a lot of them - I think for my VN experience the most I've encountered, though I know there are VNs with even more. Anyway - it's really difficult to not pick Kiri, honestly At the same time, it is a little painful to reject Ellis as well. The VN does a far better than typical job of fleshing most of the characters out - and especially Ellis and Kiri. I do recommend the VN for people who liked this anime title. Unless you just hate the medium, it is a welcome surprise in it's characterizations - aside from the - that was just awful all around... Since I didn't see the whole series, I can't claim that I would have liked the ending - but... I know I wouldn't have been screaming at the TV like so many people on MAL seem to have been doing. Incidentally, 16 yr old girls (she was 16 at the end) can legally get married in Japan. BUT... there are issues, depending on the prefecture (~state) for >20 male and <20 female unless Parent's of girl agree (he's her guardian, and I guess it's ok with him, so... lol.. don't know, seriously, what happens). Perhaps it's a crime - one easily avoided for the powerful and rich, of course... guess it's good they wound up in France. For the other girls, if their parents get cool with it, it can be permitted. Well - make friends with the parents boys.... |
aprilia1kFeb 5, 2022 1:04 AM
| I felt this ending was pretty obvious, and it was hard to obscure behind the traumas Hiroki and Elis (Eris = discord haha get it) were going on about for the longest time. In the end Hiroki and Elis are finally 'true to themselves' by going against everything their peers had been instructing them to do (Paris/becoming a teacher). There are a lot of anime stories like this where the catharsis comes from characters doing what is unexpected, risky or impulsive. So I'm not really surprised, and unlike what others say I thought it built up to it in typical dramatic fashion. The 'incest' doesn't bother me. The character writing in this was actually pretty decent, and it really stood out to me in the last 4 episodes, especially when Kiri and Elis were talking right before the accident. Hiroki was always this two-faced kind of guy so I think Kiri is better off to be honest (and maybe that's sort of the point, two damaged people lick each others wounds in an unhealthy relationship). To want him to get with Kiri is a big time misunderstanding of the kind of story this is. Not a bad drama I guess but it's been a while since I've watched an anime like this. And I can't believe Tomoko is fucking dead. |
syncrogazerApr 18, 2019 7:02 PM
| No matter how I look it was a forced and wrong ending, made me wonder "what am I doing in my life". |
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| Very good anime with a lot of emotional scenes, cute characters, decent comedy (sometimes unintentional, like anything Hiroki says or does pertaining to romance), and heartful internal resolutions. This episode wasn't paced very well though. Hiroki was seemingly ignorant or inconsiderate of Elis's feelings for a good portion of the anime and only has an epiphany about it after he sent her off to the airport, then the last few minutes are just a rush of barely developed scenes that should've been given much more attention. Elis should've had more private moments with Hiroki before this episode, rather than twenty different instances of him just going to every cafe/restaurant in the country with Kiri. That said; the episodes before this were great, and I'm glad Elis won. |
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