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XmattmutilatedX said: What was the messege in this episode then? The message for me was "scum will always be scum and deserves to die" |
Kotori said: The message for me was "scum will always be scum and deserves to die" Nah... More like "Things may not always be what they seem." Or "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?" On another note, did anyone notice how... alien Kino was? She doesn't even think on the same wavelength as most humans. |
| Peace through Superior Firepower! formosan said: Are you using some kind of advanced logic I don't know about? Have you decided to assign new meanings to English words? Are you just intentionally burning a straw man and knowing full well that you're changing the subject and misrepresenting a claim? |
| That was surprisingly dark after the first episode- very powerful indeed. I agree with LolitaDecay that the subtlety was particularly impressive; I liked how we were given a shot of the rabbit skins at the end without an explicit exposition of the questions raised about the value of life. Artistically done indeed. And lol Veronin, she is indeed. ^^ |
| "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." Douglas Adams |
| O__O Wow that was good... Kino is taking lessons from the Ryuugu Rena school of scary girls... It was just really good... If only all anime was this moving. Also Kino is really packing heat, she has 3 guns and a literal ton of knives :O I guess she needs them to survive against scumbags like that. |
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| Those rabbits have now died in vain. =/ |
| I agree, the ring doesn't look good on her. Too girly. |
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| I just found out now that SHE was a girl?! LOL! XD I thought she was a boy!!! XD Kino!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How dare you deceive me?! XD Anyways, this is really a thought provoking episode. Love it there; I already had the bad feelings about this, come on! I didn't expect that to happen there inside the track.. Cannibalism, everyone?! XD I pity the rabbits more... XD |
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| Woah this was great but also freaking shocking. Didn't get that impression of Kino from the first episode D; amazing this has me hooked |
| Poor bunneh's. :( Kino is awesome. I want them goggles. |
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| Amazing episode. I had a hint that there something wrong with those guys, but the ending wasn't what I expected. |
| Those poor rabbits DID die in vain. Poor, poor rabbits. I was wondering how the episode would turn out when I was halfway through... Somehow I never expected that those three guys would be slave traders, although it was super suspicious when they didn't tell them what they were trading. Kino... has skills. This show is so deep and thought-provoking. I love it. |
| Poor bunnies. Those men deserved to die of starvation. Poor slave girl.. It disgusts me that she was eaten. Good episode though. I'm glad Kino killed those scum. In this case, the rabbits lives were actually more valuable than the people's lives. |
| I can't believe that they ate her..... at least wolves don't eat each other YOU ANTHROPOPHAGI BASTARDS!! >o<!! |
| Really deep. It really makes you think, what do you really do in these types of situations. Because it's not always all sunshine and rainbows when you extend your hand to help somebody in need. I guess the message of this episode is what Cebola92 said. "No matter how good you are evil will still exist." And yes....Kino has skills. |
| Great episode and it was thought provoking. Can't say it's the single best episode I've seen, I've seen several great anime episodes. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| .... now this is my type of anime. F*cking..... Brilliant, though I suspected the Mongolians(I think) to turn on her. To my surprise, Kino was scared for her life too. Though I knew that they might have ate their first "victim" but the scene strikes me just as hard as anything. I got a feeling that this anime could be the next 10/10 in my list. |
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leondunkleyclark said: XmattmutilatedX said: What was the messege in this episode then? I thought it coul dhave been that people make mistakes, but shouldnt always assume things for what they seem? Nah, I think it was more questioning the value of life and the motivation/importance of charity. Whether the slave traders owed their lives to Kino, or Kino owed her life to the rabbits, whether it was worth killing to fulfil the obligation she had, and so on. Incredible ep, I love the way that throughout most of it dialogue didn't seem necessary to get things across. I loved the honesty of this episode. Kino sees that she's not obligated to the rabbits or the men, and admits that she's only helping one because she may need help in return. I love her detached attitude. So much anime is filled with self-righteousness and moralfaggotry, I cannot express how refreshing it is to see a character like this. *adds Kino to favorites* |
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| I was surprised at how real they portrayed the snow rather than the easy to play with and walk on type you find in most anime, but I thought they only dealt in weapons but that ending was unexpected although I was expecting some form of confrontation between them and Kino but Kino sure has a lot of knives O_O |
| This episode made me think. . . what would you all do in Kinos place?? |
SolDeMav said: This episode made me think. . . what would you all do in Kinos place?? I always try to investigate things first (even though my first impressions are usualy true). But the setting is a setting. And it was Kino's not mine. If Kino was wrong in helping those guys, they were doubly wrong to turn on Kino. That explains somewhat their bad luck in the first place. .... now this is my type of anime. F*cking..... Brilliant, though I suspected the Mongolians(I think) to turn on her. I *always* expect such turn of events. They look like archetypical mongolians, yes, but it's not the point, of cource. If you are not Vash and can afford it, you should not tempt your "fellow" human by being vulnerable. Kino wasn't realy but she was unaware and the first move wasn't hers. I guess her principle of not to get involved with others business (so she could figure it all out beforehand) did her wrong this time. Nothing to make far-reaching conclusions out of this. The world is not beautiful and people are not good sometimes. You do what you feel is right and you have your consequence. It's useless to think about good and bad in general. Try to make a decision, not a choice between one idea (you shouldshouldn't always help others) or the other (people are wolvesangels) or you will always be wrong... Kino made a decision and she could deal with consequences. And also, she has regard. Even for the rabbits. Bandits didn't, even for Kino. With such careless and senseless attitude they would meet their demise eventualy. |
burbelsJul 5, 2010 12:39 AM
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. |
| I knew those guys were gonna turn out to be crooks :P Still, this was a good episode. |
| i thought this episode was trying to say "humans always try to make their own ends meet, no matter who (or what) else must pay for that" Those crooks were just more people. For the sake of their survival and making their ends meet, they sacrifice others. Just like how Kino would hunt rabbits to survive admittedly saying that she realizes she was stealing the lives of others in doing so. Or at the very least, it didn't seem like a simple ying yang good exists in evil and vice versa thing. |
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| Very good episode. |
| I had a hunch they were going to turn on her. |
| Even better than the first episode.. Very deep and interesting, and Kino seems to be quite able to defend herself. Good to know ^^ The cannibalism part was obvious from the beginning though. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I didn't know Kino was such a badass. I knew that there was something about her.. But I never wouldn't have imagined this to happen after the first ep. The bit with Kino and Hermes about charity and obligation was great. Overall, brilliant episode. |
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| Haha, it only gets better Sherr. |
| i knew it...those guys were bad,i knew it from the first second :) but cannibals?wtf...that poor girl :(,those assholes deserved to be tortured and kino's also badass,killing like that wow... this anime is exceding my expectantions currently! if it keeps going like that a 10 is guaranteed from me :) 5/5 |
Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| yeah great episode *drop all your wepons* and then kino's like SURE and then the guys are like WTF how many does she have and then bam bam bam they all die |
DrakeWants2Speak said: I knew those guys were gonna turn out to be crooks :P Yes they looked evil to me. Only upon looking at this forum did I discover Kino is a girl not a guy! |
| kino sure is an awesome character |
| Very disturbing and profound. Now this is good anime. |
| .....NICE!!!! |
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| My favorite episode from the series. |
| When Kino was getting all her knives out I like how the one guy was like "What are you a knife dealer?" Cause she had like eighty-million. |
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| I just knew that this episode was going to contain something about cannibalism at one point. the twist got me by surprise. |
| why oh why did it take me so many years to finally get this show to finish watching it that was so good |
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| I knew it, I had a hunch those guys weren’t any good. The ending still shocked me, nonetheless. Definitely, quite the thought-provoking and deep episode. “Kindness is not always returned with kindness.” isn’t it? Humans will keep being ruthless beings, its nature, no matter what we do, no matter how hard we try or help, won’t change. |
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| Great episode, it was dark. But, it really wasn't that thought provoking :/ Didn't tell me what I didn't already know. This show is overhyped for me atm. |
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| Wow...that was sick.. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Three dead rabbits for three dead men. |
| Moral of the story "Kindness does not beget kindness, though that only apply to humans." |
| The rabbits died for a good cause... or maybe not. |
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| I was very hesitant to watch this anime because I fell asleep watching Haibane Renmei, and this anime is supposedly have the same feel. I might give Haibane another chance, but the pace is sooooo slow Great episode though. |
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