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May 31, 2010 8:00 PM

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May 31, 2010 8:54 PM

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yeah the subs were bad, how ever they weren't as bad as Shakugan no Shana S episode 2 subs lol my god.


 
May 31, 2010 8:58 PM

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BSS subs are out http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DS0TSLCD


Thanks. I hope they're better than the previous ones.

 
May 31, 2010 9:39 PM

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Oh look, there are actually good things about waking up at 5 in the morning while I've got a sleep-in to 11~ ^^;
At the end of the last episode, I really hadn't seen Amagiri coming back as an option xD.
.. : | .. Yin~ <3

Yaay, next time, Hei's evolution into Heibo starts xD

Anyway, 3 awesome things about this episode:

  • Yin : D
  • Hei : D
  • Yin&Hei : D
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May 31, 2010 9:41 PM

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Was Amagiri just standing there, or did he die while standing up?
 
May 31, 2010 9:55 PM

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Can't remember Hei being that overpowered when he totally destroyed that tree.

Well, this episode further shows how human he truly is along with some mild Yin actions.
 
May 31, 2010 10:12 PM

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Episode made me sad because the beginning showed the hottest character being killed again. =[
 
May 31, 2010 11:00 PM

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btw hei with mouthstache looks so GAR
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Episode 3 Screencaps and Impressions:
http://randomc.net/2010/05/31/darker-than-black-gaiden-03/

what the first commenter said. >.>
 
May 31, 2010 11:00 PM

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUU H.....HE.....HEY! Damn it, I just can't say it but still WHY? WHY the hell is Hei acting like a typical shonen protagonist? He was never one so why start when someone's in the need of comforting?

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Was Amagiri just standing there, or did he die while standing up?


It's obvious that he died standing, that man had too much pride in him to die in a clichéd way...

Anyways, Good episode but here go again, the REAL waiting game begins...

~ Release of the final episode *07.21.2010*

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Jun 1, 2010 12:36 AM

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Well geez, that was depressing.
 
Jun 1, 2010 12:43 AM

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Great episode.
And yes,the waiting game shall begin
 
Jun 1, 2010 1:34 AM

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Hei removing that branch from his shoulder was painful to hear and watch. But is Hei really that strong when he destroyed that tree?

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Anyway, 3 awesome things about this episode:

  • Yin : D
  • Hei : D
  • Yin&Hei : D

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Jun 1, 2010 1:49 AM

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belatkuro said:
But is Hei really that strong when he destroyed that tree?

It was raining so probably the tree was wet and I think water conducts electricity or something.
About the episode...I quite liked it.I wonder if Amber predicted all these things.That makes her even more awesome.Anyway,Claude trolls like a master,but Izanami is better.
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Jun 1, 2010 2:26 AM

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Was expecting a bit more action, since there were about 7 contractors ready to kill Hei and only 1 of them popped up IIRC. Disappointing overall, but seeing Yin doing cute poses in her ghost form was good enough for me.

Now we gotta wait 2 months for the finale...
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Jun 1, 2010 4:25 AM

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Urufuzu_rein said:
belatkuro said:
But is Hei really that strong when he destroyed that tree?

It was raining so probably the tree was wet and I think water conducts electricity or something.
Yeah or he might have been empowered by the lightning and charged electricity in the air that was going on as well. Either way I doubt he planned on using that much power, just a bit overkill xD

Overall very gloomy episode, especially the scene with Yin crying. And things don't get much better when you already know how everything ends.
Still this OVA kicks the living but out of S2.
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Jun 1, 2010 4:56 AM

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This ep didnt do much for me...which is depressing.
Maybe becuase the subs where so bad i couldnt really understand what the hell they where talking about...

the dog died D':

thats all i care about. And amagiri...but then he went and died...
i think i'll watch it again when theres better subs.

and damn. like everyones bee saying, now the waiting game begins...>.>
 
Jun 1, 2010 5:01 AM

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EternalDreamer said:
Urufuzu_rein said:
belatkuro said:
But is Hei really that strong when he destroyed that tree?
It was raining so probably the tree was wet and I think water conducts electricity or something.
Yeah or he might have been empowered by the lightning and charged electricity in the air that was going on as well. Either way I doubt he planned on using that much power, just a bit overkill xD
Then again, that other contractor dude did something to the tree, which might've forced Hei to obliterate it completely (seeing as even though he did, he still got a quite large piece of wood in his shoulder)
Or well.. That's what I think anyway xD
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Jun 1, 2010 6:12 AM

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I'm glad there isn't a long wait between the episodes.


Hei X Yin <3
 
Jun 1, 2010 7:14 AM

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I'm abit confused. who killed them? yin or the blonde hair dude? care to explain anyone? i only saw the raws so i can only understand 70% of the convos
 
Jun 1, 2010 7:51 AM

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The subs hardly made sense.. But I think the dog said Claude did? Though she did also say something about Yin suppressing Izanami.
 
Jun 1, 2010 7:58 AM

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Did you guys even watch DtB1? Electricity is only a small portion of Hei's power.
 
Jun 1, 2010 8:33 AM

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shit got real but the waiting for the next episode will be such a pain :S
and yeah the subs were very bad but I think it was the Claude guy who killed them and kidnapped Yin
 
Jun 1, 2010 8:51 AM

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subs were great IMO.
http://bssubs.net/
 
Jun 1, 2010 10:53 AM

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Goddamn waiting game ;_; I really wonder about Yin. BTW, does she make an appearance in S2? (No, I haven't watched it yet.)
 
Jun 1, 2010 11:06 AM

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Sad Yin makes me sad ;_;
 
Jun 1, 2010 11:15 AM
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I hope there's some rage in the next episode. The wait's too long. : <

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Jun 1, 2010 11:22 AM

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Naratchi said:
Goddamn waiting game ;_; I really wonder about Yin. BTW, does she make an appearance in S2? (No, I haven't watched it yet.)
You did the right thing watching this before s2. And the answer to your question is yes.
 
Jun 1, 2010 11:29 AM

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belatkuro said:
Naratchi said:
Goddamn waiting game ;_; I really wonder about Yin. BTW, does she make an appearance in S2? (No, I haven't watched it yet.)
You did the right thing watching this before s2. And the answer to your question is yes.
Not much though, but still yes.
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Jun 1, 2010 12:59 PM

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This episode definitely pulled at my heartstrings. Not only because the writers have no qualms about killing anyone (and everyone) (thanks, Claude :P), but because of the looming inevitability of Yin's transformation and Hei's decision. Seeing Yin taking care of the child while Hei looks on was especially sad, offering a glimpse of what could have been, but never will be. DtB is an excellent tragedy.

I look forward to the next episode!


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so there's going to be a 3rd season?

Nothing has been confirmed as of now, but I think there will be.


I always vote for more Darker than Black ^^
 
Jun 1, 2010 2:19 PM

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The subs were annoying but it wasn't too hard to guess some of them...
I love the YinxHei fanservice <3
How can this short OVA be so awesome when it leads to the failed season 2?
 
Jun 1, 2010 3:08 PM

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These OVAs are much more interesting than the second season of DTB , story-wise. I wish they had gone with this story as the plot for the second season and had all the second season story presented in OVAs.


Nope, everything in the second season of DtB is better than in these OVAs. It's better directed, rhythmed, the characters are more accurately developped and it flows quite smoothly whereas episodes 2 and 3 of the Gaiden OVAs were extremely slow, uneventful and simply less interesting. Only the atmosphere and setting are on par with Ryuusei no Gemini, which was overall a better follow up compared to the heavily flawed first season (I mean, half of the episodes were fillers and/or fanservice episodes, how can you consider it better than the action-packed and story-driven second season ?).

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Ah, so that's how Yin disappeared.



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Jun 1, 2010 7:27 PM

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They still haven't explained just WHAT Izanami is, and why Yin is going through all of this.
 
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Jacut said:
kokuro said:
These OVAs are much more interesting than the second season of DTB , story-wise. I wish they had gone with this story as the plot for the second season and had all the second season story presented in OVAs.


Nope, everything in the second season of DtB is better than in these OVAs. It's better directed, rhythmed, the characters are more accurately developped and it flows quite smoothly whereas episodes 2 and 3 of the Gaiden OVAs were extremely slow, uneventful and simply less interesting. Only the atmosphere and setting are on par with Ryuusei no Gemini, which was overall a better follow up compared to the heavily flawed first season (I mean, half of the episodes were fillers and/or fanservice episodes, how can you consider it better than the action-packed and story-driven second season ?).


Not even close. The second season was the biggest let down, for me at least, as it could hardly be considered a sequel. In fact, I'd go as far to say that the second season really didn't accomplish anything. It left much to be desired, introduced a bunch of new, albeit unnecessary characters only to leave more things unexplained. As if there wasn't enough of that already.

Also, non-stop action =/= good anime.

Seems like you'd be more interested in sticking to shounen.
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shourialize said:
Jacut said:
kokuro said:
These OVAs are much more interesting than the second season of DTB , story-wise. I wish they had gone with this story as the plot for the second season and had all the second season story presented in OVAs.


Nope, everything in the second season of DtB is better than in these OVAs. It's better directed, rhythmed, the characters are more accurately developped and it flows quite smoothly whereas episodes 2 and 3 of the Gaiden OVAs were extremely slow, uneventful and simply less interesting. Only the atmosphere and setting are on par with Ryuusei no Gemini, which was overall a better follow up compared to the heavily flawed first season (I mean, half of the episodes were fillers and/or fanservice episodes, how can you consider it better than the action-packed and story-driven second season ?).


Not even close. The second season was the biggest let down, for me at least, as it could hardly be considered a sequel. In fact, I'd go as far to say that the second season really didn't accomplish anything. It left much to be desired, introduced a bunch of new, albeit unnecessary characters only to leave more things unexplained. As if there wasn't enough of that already.

Also, non-stop action =/= good anime.

Seems like you'd be more interested in sticking to shounen.


Couldn't have said it better myself. :)


Also these subs were terrible. I honestly think running them through Google Translate would've done a better job. (At one point Claude says "yoroshiku" and it got translated as "great weekend" or something...wtf)
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Naratchi said:
Goddamn waiting game ;_; I really wonder about Yin. BTW, does she make an appearance in S2? (No, I haven't watched it yet.)


not much but its alrigth becuse you will get a girl that is 10x better and generally more hawt and innocent <3333
 
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Naratchi said:
Goddamn waiting game ;_; I really wonder about Yin. BTW, does she make an appearance in S2? (No, I haven't watched it yet.)


not much but its alrigth becuse you will get a girl that is 10x better and generally more hawt and innocent <3333


LOL.




 
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I support the statement that releasing the OVA following the second season is a wiser choice. As a whole the second season proxies for an OVA filler, with the exception of it’s full season length.
If the animation had proceeded in reverse, we would have brewed hatred over watching irrelevant information. While the second season set up the third season’s stage, the fans would have known that nothing surrounding Suou held importance to the previous plot. Despite enthusiasms being crushed with the ending, to be omitted, I know I would have possessed a different point of view on the Suou arc. With the current order they can more easily transfer into a third season through bypassing the second season and continuing from the OVA.

Suou obviously loved Hei, but through his reaction to the question, “What is your relationship?” referring to Yin, his feelings for her are obvious. This is also evident through saving her during the second season. Yet the appearance of the baby appeared very symbolic to me. Through showing functioning partnerships between emotionless contractors, it shows the capabilities of seeing a happy ending of Hei x Yin. However, you must consider that the couple with the baby died even if they didn’t possess a plot shield. Any predictions?
 
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I sure watched some shitty subs, but yeah, I'm pretty sure Claude kidnapped Yin. The baby scene was so beautiful imo. ♥ Even though Yin is a doll, I think she'd make a good mother.

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(I mean, half of the episodes were fillers and/or fanservice episodes, how can you consider it better than the action-packed and story-driven second season ?)

Haha, what? I think there were a total of maybe...4 fillers in season 1.
 
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shourialize said:
Jacut said:
kokuro said:
These OVAs are much more interesting than the second season of DTB , story-wise. I wish they had gone with this story as the plot for the second season and had all the second season story presented in OVAs.


Nope, everything in the second season of DtB is better than in these OVAs. It's better directed, rhythmed, the characters are more accurately developped and it flows quite smoothly whereas episodes 2 and 3 of the Gaiden OVAs were extremely slow, uneventful and simply less interesting. Only the atmosphere and setting are on par with Ryuusei no Gemini, which was overall a better follow up compared to the heavily flawed first season (I mean, half of the episodes were fillers and/or fanservice episodes, how can you consider it better than the action-packed and story-driven second season ?).


Not even close. The second season was the biggest let down, for me at least, as it could hardly be considered a sequel. In fact, I'd go as far to say that the second season really didn't accomplish anything. It left much to be desired, introduced a bunch of new, albeit unnecessary characters only to leave more things unexplained. As if there wasn't enough of that already.

Also, non-stop action =/= good anime.

Seems like you'd be more interested in sticking to shounen.


But that depends on what you were looking for in the anime. Did you want a more episodic story like the first series, or something different in the second?

And if this did come before the second series, would you think any different of the second series having known the inbetween with these OVAs? The OVAs (especially this one) haven't had nearly as much action as the first season, its more geared like the second, so how you can say this is better than the 2nd series because its more like the first doesn't really make sense.

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Haha, what? I think there were a total of maybe...4 fillers in season 1.

The first season was made episodic style, the majority of which had no relation to the main story line, or side arcs that were designed to offer character development, and there were a lot of them. So technically, half of the first series were fillers if you count just the episodes to just the main narrative.

On topic, I thought it was OK. It doesn't seem to flow as well as the TV series (either of them) did. And there are still a few things that need clearing up.
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SpudUK said:
Tayloroids said:
Haha, what? I think there were a total of maybe...4 fillers in season 1.
The first season was made episodic style, the majority of which had no relation to the main story line, or side arcs that were designed to offer character development, and there were a lot of them. So technically, half of the first series were fillers if you count just the episodes to just the main narrative.
So what they did, was that they cut out all the stuff that didn't belong to the main storyline, added some stupid Suou, and thus came season two.
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Oosran said:
So what they did, was that they cut out all the stuff that didn't belong to the main storyline, added some stupid Suou, and thus came season two.

That's YOUR opinion. I liked Suou's character as it was adding a different element to Hei's survival, making it that little bit tougher to stay alive AND getting back on track.

And atleast (for the high majority) they actually stuck to the main storyline of the series. People on this forum tend not to mark sequels on their own merits but instead comparing to the first, which is not always the best policy, and the first series had a higher filler ratio than the 2nd series did.
 
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SpudUK said:
Oosran said:
So what they did, was that they cut out all the stuff that didn't belong to the main storyline, added some stupid Suou, and thus came season two.
That's YOUR opinion. I liked Suou's character as it was adding a different element to Hei's survival, making it that little bit tougher to stay alive AND getting back on track.

And atleast (for the high majority) they actually stuck to the main storyline of the series. People on this forum tend not to mark sequels on their own merits but instead comparing to the first, which is not always the best policy, and the first series had a higher filler ratio than the 2nd series did.
Well, yeah, of course, it's MY opinion. Then again, I didn't say otherwise.

My main point however, was that the second season, while it didn't consist of filler-ish material to about 50% like the first season did, it was also about 50% the length of the first season.
And that (in MY opinion) kind of makes up for the first season having fillers.
Besides, them fillers were for the most part good anyway~
Except for this whole 12-episode Suou-filler 8D .. I really shouldn't feed the fire like this..
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That was honestly pretty great, easily better than the entirety of the second season and most of the first. But who was that kid at the end?
 
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Watching this show always stuck me. Awesomeness is screaming from it. This OVA has a lot to tell and definitely interesting. The last episode is much look forward to after this event.
I wonder if it is Steve Conti's song towards the end of this episode? It's a nice song and I'm curious!
 
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I wonder if it is Steve Conti's song towards the end of this episode? It's a nice song and I'm curious!


The song you heard was this


Candraprabha's Tears by Ishii Yasushi



 
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SpudUK said:

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And atleast (for the high majority) they actually stuck to the main storyline of the series. People on this forum tend not to mark sequels on their own merits but instead comparing to the first, which is not always the best policy, and the first series had a higher filler ratio than the 2nd series did.


But what is a sequel but a continuation of a story and it's characters? If the story has so far been intriguing and complex and--generally speaking--well crafted it is only logical to expect the same quality. Also, season 1 did not have so much fillers as additional layers to the story. Every"filler" episode showed some different aspect in contractors' lives and choices. It felt very well-presented and added depth. Not so in season 2 which was unfortunately hitched to the most annoyingly useless main character. There is only so much one can do with an angsty, teenaged cliche. It would be completely different if season 2 only featured new characters in the same universe but it did not. As it is, people tend to care more about characters they've seen for 20-something episodes than characters appearing in a 12-episode series.
 
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Lieila said:
I wonder if it is Steve Conti's song towards the end of this episode? It's a nice song and I'm curious!


The song you heard was this


Candraprabha's Tears by Ishii Yasushi


Oh thanks!
 
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I swear to God the sole reason these OVAs were made was to make the animators live out their fantasies dressing Yin up in various cute clothes... Not that I mind though.
 
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Those OVA's are great! *hoping for a 3rd season since the 2nd one sucked*

Anyway.. I didn't understand everything that happened in this episode because of that bad translation, but still it was interesting to watch. :3

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