Lolicon vs. Pedophilia: Do you know the difference?

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
It is not "sick" or anything to be attracted to 13+ aged girls. Of course it is illegal, but biologically speaking puberty etc comes earlier for girls than for boys and most girls could - biologically - get pregnant with 13 so for nature sex is okay (not to mention that not too long ago it was still normal to marry girls that age etc..)..

DrewTheDude said:
JESUS CHRIST! HOW MANY TOPICS ABOUT THIS LOLICON BULLSHIT HAVE TO EXIST! I SHOULD START A COUNTER COUNTING HOW MANY TOPICS PEOPLE MAKE ABOUT THEM!

Vcdrem said:
Personally, the way I see it is, a pervert is a pervert no matter how you look at it.

alexcampos said:
I basically see it like this:

Lolicon: crazy otaku who like 2D images of little kids, or really any underage looking character. (basically harmless to like images of imaginary kids)


Pedophilia:fucked up people who like REAL little kids, these are the fuckers who need to be in jail and raped repeatedly, then they'll understand how crazy they are.

Onitenshi said:

But drawn pictures of 13+ aged girls can't get pregnant and it wouldn't be natural to be attracted to objects - so where is your god now?

Ranivus said:
Lots of people assume lolicon and pedophilia go hand in hand but according to the accredited Yuu Mental Health Clinic, it is not. You can find out and read the full legal difference between the two in their manga pamphlet.

The first four pages:

Finish reading HERE. Original version HERE.

Well its funny and educational which is pretty rare. Also the final line is pretty funny... "Come to the clinic or go to the police!"

Well what are your thoughts about all this? And why does most people think everything that deals with loli's or moe has to be about sexualizing them when it's clearly not?

ezikialrage said:


Lolis = depictions of prepubescent children

ezikialrage said:


Lets go by some definitions here instead of relying on a comic drawn by a pedophile or closet pedophile. First of a all a loli is a depictions of a prepubescent child. Pornography according to The American Heritage® Dictionary is the sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.This does not make the distinctions if it is drawn,computer animated, or photographed or if the stories contain real or fake people. So a hentai manga or anime with a loli in it is depicted in it simulated child porn. So if you like to look at loli hentia then you are indeed a pedophile.

Lolis = depictions of prepubescent children

porn= images, writings or other media meant to sexually arouse someone,regardless if the subjects in them are real or fake

pedophile= someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children

Hentai=porn

Loli+ Hentai = depicted child porn

someone who watch depicted child porn = pedophile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon
Lolicon (ロリコン?), also romanized as rorikon, is a Japanese portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex".[1][2] In Japan, the term describes an attraction to girls,[3] or an individual with such an attraction.[4][5] Outside Japan, the term is less common and most often refers to a genre of manga and anime wherein childlike female characters are depicted in an erotic manner

Jigero said:
Lolicon is a play on the term Lolita Complex. The term Lolita comes from the 1955 Novel entitled Lolita. The author described a Lolita as a sexually precocious adolescent girl, not prepubescent. Lolicon is the sexual depiction of fictional characters that resemble young girls, not an actual depiction. as fictional character do not have ages and their entire existence is figment. Pedophiles are people sexually attracted to real children.

Smasher said:


Funny that you mention the book Lolita, as I'm reading it (or listening to it, narrated by Jeremy Irons) and the book has a few insanely interesting lines that might add to the discussion here.

"Now I wish to introduce the following idea. Between the age limits of nine and fourteen there occur maidens who, to certain bewitched travelers, twice or many times older than they, reveal their true nature which is not human, but nymphic (that is, demoniac); and these chosen creatures I propose to designate as "nymphets."

"Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita."

kitkatbar said:
I'm sure it's not all about sex for pedophiles either, just like you lolicons say.

It's the same shit.

Because in reality, lolicon is just the japanese way of saying pedophile, and the fact that the filthy japs lessened the meaning by making it a running gag in their cartoons, does not change this truth.

kitkatbar said:
I'm sure it's not all about sex for pedophiles either, just like you lolicons say.

It's the same shit.

Because in reality, lolicon is just the japanese way of saying pedophile, and the fact that the filthy japs lessened the meaning by making it a running gag in their cartoons, does not change this truth.

Jigero said:


Fail on so many levels.

Lolicon is a play on the term Lolita Complex. The term Lolita comes from the 1955 Novel entitled Lolita. The author described a Lolita as a sexually precocious adolescent girl, not prepubescent. Lolicon is the sexual depiction of fictional characters that resemble young girls, not an actual depiction. as fictional character do not have ages and their entire existence is figment. Pedophiles are people sexually attracted to real children.

Your trying to make the assumption that "lol well it looks the same so it must be the same thing." It's like saying a blunt that contains the tobaccos is the exact same thing as a blunt that contains marijuana, just cause they look similar.

Hoppy said:

Anyway most anime fans are lolicons except for those mainstream only people, if you watch different anime you will favor or fall in love with one sooner or later, it's inevitable.

Smasher said:
"Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita."

ezikialrage said:


The Japanese are not the only ones who use pedophilia as a running gag in cartoons, Its also a gag in Family Guy with the character Herbert who lusts after chris and young boys.





SO instead of pedophile it is Hebephile . The sexual preference for individuals in the early years of puberty. So instead of looking at sexual depictions of 1-10 year olds they like looking at sexual depictions of 11 and 12 year olds. How is this any better?

alexcampos said:
uhhh, quick question, which of the following would you consider to be a loli?

a) Horo (Spice and Wolf)

b) Mio Akiyama (K-ON!)

c) Yuki Nagato (TMoHS)

alexcampos said:
uhhh, quick question, which of the following would you consider to be a loli?

a) Horo (Spice and Wolf)

b) Mio Akiyama (K-ON!)

c) Yuki Nagato (TMoHS)

Enigmatica said:


none of those are lolis. They're too old.

ukonkivi said:



Loli?

Karppaky said:
Who is she? Looks cute

Jigero said:
I just think it's funny how people will try to claim Lolicon is bad and it makes you a pedophile. Yet tons of what we consider as "Classical Art" features naked women, some in overt sexual situation, which most likely had a real life model to pose for them and the women in this said depictions who are probably no older then 15 year years old or younger. But liking this is okay, cause it's what the righteous moralfag hypocrites consider "Art".

alexcampos said:
I basically see it like this:

Lolicon: crazy otaku who like 2D images of little kids, or really any underage looking character. (basically harmless to like images of imaginary kids)


Pedophilia:fucked up people who like REAL little kids, these are the fuckers who need to be in jail and raped repeatedly, then they'll understand how crazy they are.

Karppaky said:
Who is she? Looks cute

Veronin said:
People jerking off to loli would find child porn just as appealing. Actually, nevermind, they only masturbate to 2 dimensional drawings and scream in horror at anything without giant moe eyes, nonexistent mouths and noses, and generally fucked up anatomy.

I know anybody that gets hard over lolicon would fuck a 10-12 year old in real life if there were no consequences, so any justifications are void. Also, between people who masturbate to lolicon and pedophiles that want to fuck girls (same thing), they're both socially inept virgins and wack it in their parent's basement.

Same to me.

Veronin said:
People jerking off to loli would find child porn just as appealing. Actually, nevermind, they only masturbate to 2 dimensional drawings and scream in horror at anything without giant moe eyes, nonexistent mouths and noses, and generally fucked up anatomy.

I know anybody that gets hard over lolicon would fuck a 10-12 year old in real life if there were no consequences, so any justifications are void. Also, between people who masturbate to lolicon and pedophiles that want to fuck girls (same thing), they're both socially inept virgins and wack it in their parent's basement.

Same to me.

kitkatbar said:
Studies show that people who watch violent porn tend to take a more violent approach with their own partner.
And no one said violent videogames and movies don't contribute to a more violent behavior. The correlation is high.
It's the same with drawings. They see those children on TV and start thinking it might not be so bad to have a relationship with a little kid. That is why they have child idols in Japan, wearing the same kind of provocative clothing as they do in the depictions of them.