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May 4, 2010 2:57 PM
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What is this manga supposed to be? This isn't even borderline H. This is hentai. There's no story at all. I thought it would be an interesting manga about a teenage couple coming to terms with their puberty but this is just yet another Katsura manga that proves that he needs to start learning on how to write a good manga or start going into hentai. It's such a pity that he can draw such attractive girls but not even have the imagination on how to give characters roles apart from being masturbation fodder.

At least Video Girl Ai had some effort but this is just awful.
May 16, 2010 12:25 AM
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arimakenshin said:
What is this manga supposed to be? This isn't even borderline H. This is hentai. There's no story at all. I thought it would be an interesting manga about a teenage couple coming to terms with their puberty but this is just yet another Katsura manga that proves that he needs to start learning on how to write a good manga or start going into hentai. It's such a pity that he can draw such attractive girls but not even have the imagination on how to give characters roles apart from being masturbation fodder.

At least Video Girl Ai had some effort but this is just awful.


As I wrote on my manga list,

"I think there was actually a semi-competent story about the sex lives of adults buried somewhere there, but the hilariously bad porn script writing killed it. The God-awful scanlation didn't help matters."

To be fair to the author, this was one of his very early works, long before he ever started writing Zetman.
May 16, 2010 12:30 AM
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Hentai? No story? Coming into terms with their puberty? lol.
Perhaps you need to look more into what 'M' could mean.
May 16, 2010 7:24 AM
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YoungVagabond said:

As I wrote on my manga list,

"I think there was actually a semi-competent story about the sex lives of adults buried somewhere there, but the hilariously bad porn script writing killed it. The God-awful scanlation didn't help matters."

To be fair to the author, this was one of his very early works, long before he ever started writing Zetman.


This manga has the emotional and psychological depth of a teaspoon. I doubt there's anything hidden in it apart from a really attractive girl drawn to be the female lead. I think the mangaka suffered some horrific trauma by getting rejected by an average looking girl that he has dedicated his life to writing stories with brainless, yet super attractive girls.

radiantfire said:
Hentai? No story? Coming into terms with their puberty? lol.
Perhaps you need to look more into what 'M' could mean.


M describes the failed, masochistic experience of reading this manga, which did not give any pleasure and only put me through torture.
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May 16, 2010 2:17 PM
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arimakenshin said:

This manga has the emotional and psychological depth of a teaspoon. I doubt there's anything hidden in it apart from a really attractive girl drawn to be the female lead. I think the mangaka suffered some horrific trauma by getting rejected by an average looking girl that he has dedicated his life to writing stories with brainless, yet super attractive girls.


Both male and female alternate in these hot and cold bouts of wanting sex, and then keeping themselves from what they desire. In the guy's case, it especially doesn't make much sense, as it occurs in the exact same scene where he DOES want it.

The girl's actions are actually more reasonable, (acting chaste not to be looked upon as a slut) but even then, often strange and unnatural. If he had focused more on the girl's proclivities or whatever, maybe there might have been something there?

I still can't even fully judge "M" completely, because the translation was one of the worst I have ever read.

arimakenshin said:

radiantfire said:
Hentai? No story? Coming into terms with their puberty? lol.
Perhaps you need to look more into what 'M' could mean.


M describes the failed, masochistic experience of reading this manga, which did not give any pleasure and only put me through torture.


I think radiantfire leaves these short little comments, often with a "lol", to show how wise and gigantic his e-cock is. He is rarely, if ever, interested in actually discussing the work, so he can safely be ignored.
May 31, 2010 12:01 AM
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I didn't find this manga too bad. Girl doesn't want sex because she loses feelings after it. She wants to preserve feelings but knows it's not gonna happen. She wants to at least show she cares also after the little outburst. He almost starts and then realizes why she didn't want it in the first place.

Sex can change a relationship. It's not always good %100 when a couple makes love for the first time. Feelings towards each other change.

It was just weird with all that sexual tension then when they do get too they feel different. There was no real way out. They enjoy being together but can't do anything together without hurting themselves but at the same time can't physically express their love. (At least this is what I got out of this)

For the most part this was supposed to be written for a playboyish kind of magazine so their had to be pushing of the bounderies in terms of sexual content to keep the interest of most men.

I honestly had no problem with this story.
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i disagree - i enjoyed this - not as much as i"s or video girl ai, but i thought it was sexy and also a good portrayal of us of the "m" persuasion - some of us were just born to have broken hearts...
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The protagonist is quite an enduring guy, gotta hand him that. I liked the frame where the pantsu pull tranformed into a manga frame pull. A bit of creativity there.
Mar 16, 11:42 AM
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bro im so confused did they even have sex in the end?
and did they break up? wtf is happening?
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The protagonist is quite an enduring guy, gotta hand him that. I liked the frame where the pantsu pull tranformed into a manga frame pull. A bit of creativity there.
@St0rmblade did they sleep together then break up? i dont understand
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@St0rmblade did they sleep together then break up? i dont understand
ucoolorno said:
@St0rmblade did they sleep together then break up? i dont understand

They did break up but stopped short of sleeping together. If they did that, it would be easier to get away with, but as they didn't "finish", the sense of longing and loneliness is still there (it's implied they're both masochists)
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@St0rmblade did they sleep together then break up? i dont understand

They did break up but stopped short of sleeping together. If they did that, it would be easier to get away with, but as they didn't "finish", the sense of longing and loneliness is still there (it's implied they're both masochists)
@St0rmblade so basically there edging eachother, but broke up before finishing?
what kind of bs is this
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ucoolorno said:
@St0rmblade did they sleep together then break up? i dont understand

They did break up but stopped short of sleeping together. If they did that, it would be easier to get away with, but as they didn't "finish", the sense of longing and loneliness is still there (it's implied they're both masochists)
@St0rmblade so they basically edged themselves but didnt finish?
this some bs
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@St0rmblade so they basically edged themselves but didnt finish?
this some bs
ucoolorno said:
@St0rmblade so they basically edged themselves but didnt finish?

Well yeah but I'm satisfied with this ending. Unexpected, sure

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