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I was speaking of the ending in the series, yes. First of all, mediocre would be better than "poor", though that is irrelevant.

They did not admit it was a bad idea, all they admitted was that they ran out of budget (as GAINAX tend to do). Indeed Anno even called those who hated the ending out for having no self-respect. The movies are a total revisioning; what the show would have been if Anno didn't get a severe suicidal depression. Which in many ways was a good thing he got; the themes and probing of NGE are nothing short of incredible, and quite possibly a great help for some depressed people. Certainly was for me.

I don't bash RahXephon, really, it was a fine series with severe failings and nice touches (episode where the city lights form messages? Genius). It doesn't compare to NGE, which actually cares about structure and core ideas, while RahXephon is all windowdressing. Nifty ideas without structure, ideas not made part of the work but applied to it.

And re: Shinji, eat your heart out.

I'm halfway through... and so far its basically if NGE was NGE... but was really really really dull and boring. Not really a fan so far.

I didn't really start comparing it to NGE until the episode he gets caught within his own mind back in Tokyo Jupiter,, but the show was still boring the hell out of me before I made the comparison.

What a sad show. Living only to fulfill something programmed by a senile old mulian is quite depressing. Fortunately, Ayato could at the very ending decide his own future.

For me RahXephon is the romantic version of NGE, with an harem going on in the background; three girls expressed their love for him, one was close and the last didn't get enough time near him. I didn't like him; he was a little too good to be real, and the rest was also shallow.

It felt unnecesary extended to 26 episodes. With half it could've been fine. Also, why the main characters' background changed between tv-movie-manga? There must be differences to sell and please other people, but I see it like they were not too devoted to it in the first place -like a guy selling balloons with animal figures, and asking if you like this, that or maybe those.

At times their singing was detestable, and it got worse at the end with the incestuous and not at all sexy fight-and-concert scene. But anyway, it was a better way to kill time than watching some random ecchi anime with tits going boing, boing before being pressed against some worthless guy's arm. Not a lot better, because both would still be boring and partially predictable.

Well about Eva ending: Skip the 2 episodes.. Then watch end of evangelion and where Shinji's instrumentality begins then start watching the last 2 episodes -.-
And Shinji had emotional breakdowns but seriously, he was living through puberty, his father didn't care about him, he was living with his relatives who he didn't even like etc.. He did have a bad childhood -.- (and since he was living through puberty hormones made the feelings and emotions even bigger)
I won't say rah sucks but Eva > Rah imo.

what's so great about Rah.?

NOTHING!! boring characters, story and symbolisms.

Eva > Rah

I could say the same about Evangelion. While it was good, I've seen plenty of other mecha series that are much more fulfilling.

RahXephon had interesting characters and a good plot. While it's not my favorite mecha series, it's up there on my list.

This post is present at NGE forums as well. Many statements here are from "evangelion overrated ??!!" forum at NGE's section.

As a RahXephon fan I feel the need to ask for you guys (fans or non fans of NGE), why do you think NGE is so much superior in comparision to Rah. It would be nice to hear arguments here since looks like most of NGE fans bashes Rah for really stupid reasons, without many convincing arguments to sustain their point of view. Let me explain.
Obs: I am not questioning NGE’s quality, I am not denying its influence or something like that, and I didn’t say it is inferior to Rah either, even if I like Rah more( I’m not crazy, statistically speaking there are like 50 NGE fans per 1 Rah fan). I just want to know why so much hate, since I failed to see where is some concrete reason for so much hate.

Our friend here says:



So comes another and says:



Really? Do you really think NGE is better than Rah just because you think that the 1st one is deeper than the other?What depht means to you? That's just a poor/ laughable excuse. Saying that show A is better than show B just because is “deeper” isn’t right (Lucky Star, Kon! and most moe comedies are shallow, but hey I know tons of people who prefer these comedies over NGE and Rah). And one more thing, just because NGE entered on the characters mind (psychological) doesn’t mean that is deeper than the others who didn’t enter into the characters mind.



Couldn't this statement be valid for Rah too? I mean the 1st time you watched NGE you didn't understand everything either, but you understood after rewatching. Yet you say Rah is "shallow" (for me it's implicit you said that) after watching one time (if you rewatch it, maybe you could identify it's depth, don't you think? Or is this valid only and exclusively for NGE?)

Another thing that bothers me is that many Eva fans seems to treat RahXephon fans like some kind of idiots just because they like Rah more. The most common excuse is that we, Rah fans, failed to understand NGE’s plot (that’s so not true). I like NGE and I had no major problems to understand it (maybe a bit, but I looked for some answer on the net, currently rewatching for better understanding) but I think Rah is superior in terms of direction, coherent plotline, cast and mainly ending, not to mention it was more fulfilling than NGE (watched both animes twice, and yes I’ve seen NGE movies, EoE is indeed awesome, I have to rewatch it cause it’s been so long since I’ve seen it), so what? Does that make me mentally inferior to someone who like NGE better? Really when you post something to answer this post, do not treat me like I if I am some kind of jerk. One thing that I learned is that NGE fans tends to despise everything bad that people says about NGE (if someone says that the story sucks, the answer will be on 99,99% of the cases: you are a idiot and didn’t understand the masterpiece brilliant best story ever made by humankind that NGE is or you didn’t like the direction), but when its time to say bad things about Rah, ohh boy EVA fans are excellent on bashing it with their selfish, and often poor, opinions, even if someone says otherwise, no matter what.

@Ezaya: stop trolling on Rah’s forum ok. How can you possibly say that Rah’s story sucks without even finishing it? Your posts on Rah’s forum insulted me, as a Rah’s fan, you know? (“It's impossible to understand Evangelion if you can't figure this [RahXephon] out.”)? You’re still watching Rah and it is far from finishing it!! I’m fine with those which didn’t like Rah cause they think the plot and the cast is boring, with a bad pacing and etc, and I accept that, even because you’re free to think whatever you want, but what I can’t accept is that someone that didn’t even have the decency to finish it could possibly have an formed opinion about the story as a whole. Grow up, really.

Plus, accordingly to MAL stats, something around 60,000 people watched NGE but only 2,150 dropped (3,5% drop rate), but Rah, around 12,000 watched but 1,230 dropped (10,2% drop rate). Wow, huge difference. The reason for that is it is not hard to find someone who gave a 10 for NGE and dropped Rah after a couple of eps, giving it a low score (a 3 or something around that) and tagged as “Fail EVA parody”. What the hell? How can people say Rah failed as a EVA parody after only 3 or 4 eps?! This sounds so stupid 4 me... people should be ashamed of their pathetic attitude.

Another thing is: look for any anime review site on the net. I still haven’t found ANY site that put NGE above Rah. In fact, all sites about anime reviews I visited gave a higher mark to Rah. Of course that doesn’t imply that you have to agree with them, but you do have to see that not only one, but most of the reviews on the net says that is worthy watching Rah, so that means Rah is not just a mere shallow copy, it’s an anime that is great on its own, full of meaning and the story it is complex and well directed (don’t tell me the story of NGE is far superior, I would be rich if I earned a cent everytime someone says this). Example: why does Shinji is the one can pilot EVA? Because the creators want to. Why does Ayato is the one who can pilot Rah? I won’t spoil here, but I can guarantee you that there is an coherent and believable explanation for this. Example 2: What are Angels and where they came from? Who knows… What are Mu and where they came from? It is explained on the middle eps (yeah the explanation for their existence is preety lame, but at least it does have one). What was the purpose of Bahbein foundation, why does Tokyo Jupiter exist, who is Mishima Reika, WTF happened at the ending? My friend, if you don’t know the answers then I can guarantee you that you failed miserably to understand Rah’s story. I have much more examples here but I won’t write it cause I already wrote a lot. If anyone wants to know more, feel free to ask, but don’t believe the majority (Rah it is indeed well written and well directed, but gets preety dismissed for some really annoying reasons).

Overral I am not saying Rah is original, and I didn’t say that Rah is superior (unlike most fans, I do respect people’s opinions; I am not the type of fan that starts saying some bland excuse to justify the reason I prefer an anime over another one; on this case, Rah over NGE). It’s all right not to like Rah, or NGE, all I need is that someone who can answer my questions without using fanboyish statements as an argument (“Ahh is deeper, ahh is more entertaining, ahh because it came first, Rah only copied, ahh because you’re too stupid to understand it blablabla”).




Bad rank? Nah that’s an ok rank (today the rank is even worse). Just because is well-know that doesn’t mean that is a great anime (not going to give u examples of how many mediocre animes are well-know, but we all know there are a lot of these animes nowadays). There are superior stuff out there IMO. And even more people who’ve seen Rah don’t understand it either (but hey, who cares about Rah, don’t you think? ¬¬)


Brilliant argument fanboy.




Honestly, I don't see the logical way you justified that NGE is better than Rah, Tabris-Kun. All you said is that NGE is more deeper and thats it. Just a poor excuse (read what I wrote at this post).



I totally agree with you man. I think that this statement is valid for every anime out there.

eva isn't all that deep. it takes a bunch of tropes from other anime and religion and people say its original and one of the best anime of all time lmao... its a complete derivative work and ultimately not that enjoyable... consequently ep 25 and 26 were a big FU to the people watching it.

Rahxephon while it had similar things in it is not an eva clone. If you actually research it, its got more in common with older less known anime than it has with Evangelion by far.

In the end you dont have to enjoy it nor would me explaining it help you enjoy it.

Rahxephon goes in my top 10 where as eva is probably mid pack somewhere. Top 50 maybe?

If I may be so bold to ask. Does anyone know where I can watch it In japanese with english subs online?
Or if not eventually a place where I can download it. I watched the first and second ep years ago and i'd like to finish it.

http://www.animeplus.tv/rahxephon-anime