Now and Then, Here and There Episode 13 Discussion
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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 73 | 67.59% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 21 | 19.44% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 7 | 6.48% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 1 | 0.93% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 6 | 5.56% |
Voters: 108
#41
10-20-10, 6:38 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 35 |
I wish I could kill every single character in this entire series. Not one of them would be spared my godlike wrath, and their torment would be eternal. But sadly, it's just an anime. 6/10 because I couldn't bring myself to think that even one of the characters were decent. And the only believable character was Sara. |
#42
10-23-10, 4:44 AM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 6 |
Rushed!!! The anime was suppose to end with Shu defeating his friend in Kempo and learning from the world that he went to! All the characters in the show were of derp status and did extremely stupid things, such as when the terrorist from the earlier episodes could of killed Hamdon but threw a body on the desk instead and missed as though they had Storm-trooper(star wars) aim.That ending was way too rushed for my liking. Overall, 8/10 >_> Modified by zerolv30000, 12-07-10, 6:04 PM |
#43
11-22-10, 7:00 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 70 |
Sara was the best character in the show by far and the one who had the most development even though she did not have a ton of screen time. Actually, looking back Nabuca was the most developed but he didn't compare to Sara. I really loved this anime and I am glad I decided to pick it up. The soldier who most likely impregnated Sara turned out to be not that terrible of a person but I find it hard to think of him as a likable character after what he did. The ending few episodes were a bit rushed but if I was Shu I don't know how I could return home after what I just went through. Modified by XxMalcolm, 11-23-10, 10:39 AM |
#44
12-04-10, 5:40 PM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6 |
Awful series, the characters were so one-dimensional and all the drama was completely forced. I love how the character deaths always drawn out and ridiculous like a B action movie. It was often more absurd than a dumb parody of action movies. Also I don't quite understand why a massive ship which is searching for water would completely falter when it gets drenched or why Sara would accept living because Shu gave a generic speech on how living is better than dying and it will be worth it(?). I personally think a story without Shu and a story revolving around Nabuca would've been more interesting character-wise. |
#45
12-09-10, 9:25 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 494 |
Closest feeling I can compare the ending of this series to would be TTGL. But TTGL didn't have such absolute gruesome details to it. I suppose I should say TTGL reminds me of this anime instead, although I watched this one after. This story was amazing, to say the least. A tragic end, with hope for the future. Sara obviously couldn't return home. It'd be better for her family to assume she ran away/is dead/etc, than for her to return home pregnant, attempt to explain what happened and have no one believe her for the rest of her life. At least in the "future," as long as she is alive she can help make a difference, and I think Shu helped her realize this (as much as he annoys the hell out of me). I probably felt the most for Sara throughout, but that's likely common for most of you. As far as the ending being rushed, I agree to an extent. I don't really want to know what Shu did, I think that's already pretty obvious. Something I'm curious about is Lala-ru. The way it happens in the anime it seems like when the water is all dispersed throughout the planet, the girl also disperses. So at what point did the water decide to dry up and collect into the pendant? If the plant was indeed earth in the future, how long had the water been dried? Was it just because of the world-wide conquest of Hamdo? Lala-ru mentions being alive for so much longer than others, but is that to mean she has been in human form for that long? Or has she always been "alive," even as water? I guess I'm asking for a lot here, but it didn't really need to be word for word, this is exactly how things are. Even some hints about how she came to be, I guess. But really this is just curiosity, and doesn't affect my enjoyment of the series overall. In the end a 9/10 from me, fantastic series. |
#46
12-09-10, 9:59 PM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 435 |
If you want to feel depressed by watching anime then this is it |
#47
12-29-10, 7:04 PM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 577 |
^ yep, I can stand a lot but rape isn't one of them T_T |
#48
01-10-11, 4:42 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 149 |
Fantastic series. Some pretty horrifying moments (Shu trying to save the assassin in ep 5 comes to mind), but overall it packs a serious punch. Marathoned it in about a day :-D BTW, the soldier who actually raped Sara is the ugly one who gets about 4 seconds of screen time total. I forget the episode, but she picks him out in a crowd and panics for a few moments. Her reaction to the 'nice' soldier was just the same reaction she gave to any soldier (remember the almost rapist?) I'ma give it 9/10 "Ah yes, the demon drink...'Nature's Alzheimer's' they call it" |
#49
01-16-11, 3:51 AM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 7201 |
I think this series really captured a lot of what Japanese youth wish... sans the rape, slavery and killing. In the end, good won out in most everyone's heart and those that did not were killed. Shu got to go home and saving a world is all in a day's work for him. It certainly was an excruciating story though. Deaths riddled everywhere such as Sis and Soon break my heart. ![]() |
#50
01-27-11, 9:49 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 70 |
teasaveslives said: Fantastic series. Some pretty horrifying moments (Shu trying to save the assassin in ep 5 comes to mind), but overall it packs a serious punch. Marathoned it in about a day :-D BTW, the soldier who actually raped Sara is the ugly one who gets about 4 seconds of screen time total. I forget the episode, but she picks him out in a crowd and panics for a few moments. Her reaction to the 'nice' soldier was just the same reaction she gave to any soldier (remember the almost rapist?) I'ma give it 9/10 she was also raped by him as well. |
#51
02-01-11, 7:26 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 149 |
XxMalcolm said: teasaveslives said: Fantastic series. Some pretty horrifying moments (Shu trying to save the assassin in ep 5 comes to mind), but overall it packs a serious punch. Marathoned it in about a day :-D BTW, the soldier who actually raped Sara is the ugly one who gets about 4 seconds of screen time total. I forget the episode, but she picks him out in a crowd and panics for a few moments. Her reaction to the 'nice' soldier was just the same reaction she gave to any soldier (remember the almost rapist?) I'ma give it 9/10 she was also raped by him as well. Really? Which episode? "Ah yes, the demon drink...'Nature's Alzheimer's' they call it" |
#52
02-08-11, 6:56 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2847 |
Yeah, lots of messed up stuff happened in this series. Overall, I'm pretty satisfied with the ending and the show overall. Definitely not a feel-good anime, but it gets some other emotions stirring. 8/10 Glad I watched it. ![]() |
#53
03-01-11, 2:16 AM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4274 |
Amazing emotionally powerful story line. I am definitely going to have to write a review on this show. One of my favorite series. You ever get that feeling when watching a 13 ep anime series thats its just not enough, like its a short season that they can expand upon by a whole alot. I certainly do on most occasions, but this show really had such great pacing to it and i felt like i was actually watching a good 26 episodes series instead of a 13 episodes series. Truly a remarkable masterpiece, well directed and written. |
#54
03-25-11, 9:08 AM
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Offline Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 283 |
Noooooo! Nabucaaaaa! In other news, this was a pretty good anime. Gotta go now read about actual child soldiers. |
#55
04-23-11, 5:00 PM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 2 |
The series was amazing! Such a distinctive and heavy-handed series. All of the characters were flawed, and that's a good thing. The ending was rushed, but I'm glad it finished in a happy way. :) 9/10 |
#56
05-11-11, 4:56 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 75 |
I'm somewhat satisfied with the ending and foresaw most of the events happening, like Abelia turning on Hamdo and Sara choosing to stay, but like others I felt it was rushed. Still don't know why Abelia is so devoted to Hamdo. Yeah she was in love with him, but why? No background or back-story. The story never fleshed out her character and I thought she was the most one-dimensional characters in the series. Also I like Shu's optimism, because he was proactive about it and he had a lot of determination. It's wasn't blind optimism or sit on your ass hoping for good things to happen, he made them happen and pushed through. It's one thing to say it, but it means much more when you do it. One last thing, Hamdo got off easy. He deserved much worse. Modified by MiraiLink, 05-14-11, 2:50 AM |
#57
09-19-11, 10:07 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 64 |
teasaveslives said: XxMalcolm said: teasaveslives said: Fantastic series. Some pretty horrifying moments (Shu trying to save the assassin in ep 5 comes to mind), but overall it packs a serious punch. Marathoned it in about a day :-D BTW, the soldier who actually raped Sara is the ugly one who gets about 4 seconds of screen time total. I forget the episode, but she picks him out in a crowd and panics for a few moments. Her reaction to the 'nice' soldier was just the same reaction she gave to any soldier (remember the almost rapist?) I'ma give it 9/10 she was also raped by him as well. Really? Which episode? I don't remember which episode but she was. Its inferred that she (and really all other girls kidnapped to Hellywood, who we don't meet but they're mentioned in a few conversations) is raped by all the men she is carted to in chains by the boy soldiers so they can try to impregnate her, except the last one that she kills before he can. Pretty good show, hella depressing, could have been better though. 8/10 |
#58
10-12-11, 5:42 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 1518 |
Sheer disappointment for me after all the praise I have read about it. It has some very strong points, especially around Sara's and Nabuca's characters. Still, the flaws are noticeably there and take away a lot from the enjoyment value. 7/10. |
#59
02-18-12, 5:02 PM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 6821 |
its a freaking crime that this show is so unknown and underrated, i dont think ive seen another show pull off the emotions this show did. And people need to give this ending more credit, they wrapped everything up and managed to make a ending that was both depressing but uplifting "Being a fan of something is like having a penis. It's normal to have one and it's nice to be proud of it. But for the love of god, don't pull it out in public and don't wave it in other's faces." |
#60
02-25-12, 7:25 PM
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Online Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7267 |
A show full of contradictions and ridiculous plot. How on earth does a trained soldier (Abelia) miss when her target is right in front of her? 4/10 Plato is my friend — Aristotle is my friend — but my greatest friend is truth |


